HCG Alternative Plans week of 1/3/11

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by gwynhyvar

Emergen-C, you can find it at Walgreens, Target, Trader Joes, etc. It's got electrolytes and vitamins. My holistic doc recommended it, and it really does help! I drink some when I'm feeling tired or run-down, too. Amazing!

THANK YOU!! .. gonna try it..

[droy]

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

Sorry I am such a party pooper this week, still fighting this cold, and it is taking me down ... SOOOOOOOO, I am going to eat some REAL WHOLE FOODS as I suggest to others, and heal myself... I can't go forward feeling like ............

Feel better! We need our resident cheerleader back!

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by droy

Feel better! We need our resident cheerleader back!

Thanks droy!

[minimonkey]

Deb -- sorry you are feeling sick. I am still getting over a flu/respiratory infection that has lingered for 4 weeks --- hope your recovery is much faster!

I am actually up today... only .2 lbs, which brings me back to where I was yesterday. If this keeps up, I will tweak things a bit, but am suspecting I didn't drink enough water yesterday. Also, it is the very end of TOM, and sometimes I get a last minute bloat right before a loss at the end of TOM, so not worrying about it yet.

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by minimonkey

Deb -- sorry you are feeling sick. I am still getting over a flu/respiratory infection that has lingered for 4 weeks --- hope your recovery is much faster!

I am actually up today... only .2 lbs, which brings me back to where I was yesterday. If this keeps up, I will tweak things a bit, but am suspecting I didn't drink enough water yesterday. Also, it is the very end of TOM, and sometimes I get a last minute bloat right before a loss at the end of TOM, so not worrying about it yet.

YIKES!!.. that is what I am skeered of.. I had it last year for I think 6 weeks, lost my voice and was just miserable... I am gonna get me some of that EMERGEN C and hope for the best!

I am glad to see you know what the gain is, and are not worried about it... Great attitude!

[droy]

Question for all you - I got my rx injections from my dr for 4 weeks. I found out I get a total of 6 more weeks from her. (I send her a lot of new patients) -
anyhow.... would you guys
1. do a reallly long to get to goal (I have about 20 lbs to go still)
or would you
2. do a p3-p4 break in there somewhere and where would you do it?
BTW I have been on r2 for 13 days

My last round was 9 weeks and I lost 32 lbs.

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by droy

My last round was 9 weeks and I lost 32 lbs.

Well I hate long rounds. The longest I ever did was 35 days. And now I'm only doing 5 day rounds basically, and P3ing the weekends.

So my answer is a bit biased! I'd definitely break it up, whenever you start feeling a bit tapped out. I'm so impressed that you could do 9 weeks!

[droy]

Originally Posted by paulabob

Well I hate long rounds. The longest I ever did was 35 days. And now I'm only doing 5 day rounds basically, and P3ing the weekends.

So my answer is a bit biased! I'd definitely break it up, whenever you start feeling a bit tapped out. I'm so impressed that you could do 9 weeks!

Do you do that on drops or injections? Are your losses good on that schedule. that seems like a much more fun way to do this! I am "rogue scared". I do do a 1/2 protein shake everyday though.

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by droy

Do you do that on drops or injections? Are your losses good on that schedule. that seems like a much more fun way to do this! I am "rogue scared". I do do a 1/2 protein shake everyday though.

My losses have averaged .47, .49, .53, and .53 on each of my rounds. The first round was my RX injections extended round, and every other round was drops. Only the last round was the weekend thing - and since it turned out great for me, I'm continuing after taking a Christmas break.

That said, I have no idea if it would work for you! Diets are such individual and strange things! However, I really love having the weekends be much more high calorie, include wine, and more fun! I'm a less grumpy person too. I really like the idea of the calorie cycling that so many of the ladies are doing, but I'm a bit lazy so have just made it weekdays/weekends basically. I eat anywhere from 1700-2300 lowcarb calories on the weekends, which is a bit higher than my maintenance calories.

You do have to have patience cause your weight always bounces up over the weekend, and it can take till Tuesday or Wednesday each week before you're back into virgin weight.

[ChristiansMom]

Someone told me about this thread so I thought I'd check it out. I don't have time to go back and read from the beginning, right now, but I will at some point.

I did HHCG for one round and I failed once I got to P3. Gained it all back. I still have 2 bottles of HHCG and I'm currently back on LC because that's what works for me. I've been thinking of doing the HHCG along with a LC diet but I'm not sure if that's the best idea or not. I really do not think I can go back to doing 500 calories again and risking the fail in P3 like last time.

So my question is: Do I need to "load" or can I just go straight into taking the drops tomorrow morning and eating LC like I have been and when I run out of the drops - if I decide not to go back on them, do I need to do anything different at the end to make it worth the effort (if I have lost)? I hope that makes sense

Thanks for any help you can give.

[jolenethequeen]

LD1: 293.6
LD2: 294.4
VLCD 1: 294.0
VLCD 2: 291.8
VLCD 3: 290.4
VLCD 4: 288.0

Yay!!

The end of the challange is May 2nd. Seems like a long time, but hopefully by then i can really wow everyone if i stay on track and keep my head in the game. Less hungry today, so that is a good sign!

Honestly Im not sure how many calories Im doing... but majority is just protein, chicken and cottage cheese, a few eggs, and tomatoes.

I will be back later!

[phxheelgirl]

Originally Posted by ChristiansMom

Someone told me about this thread so I thought I'd check it out. I don't have time to go back and read from the beginning, right now, but I will at some point.

I did HHCG for one round and I failed once I got to P3. Gained it all back. I still have 2 bottles of HHCG and I'm currently back on LC because that's what works for me. I've been thinking of doing the HHCG along with a LC diet but I'm not sure if that's the best idea or not. I really do not think I can go back to doing 500 calories again and risking the fail in P3 like last time.

So my question is: Do I need to "load" or can I just go straight into taking the drops tomorrow morning and eating LC like I have been and when I run out of the drops - if I decide not to go back on them, do I need to do anything different at the end to make it worth the effort (if I have lost)? I hope that makes sense

Thanks for any help you can give.

Hi ChristiansMom

While not an expert by any means, this is my 2nd round. I did not load before I started this round, because, to be honest, I had been eating so poorly in between rounds that I considered it ALL to be a very long load! So I would say personally I would go in to LC with drops (no loading) and see what happens! Do keep us all updated on your progress. I, for one, am VERY curious to see if you get good results! Would like to try that myself!

[Healthy and Happy]

All I ever got from loading was extra lbs to lose.

[droy]

Originally Posted by paulabob

You do have to have patience cause your weight always bounces up over the weekend, and it can take till Tuesday or Wednesday each week before you're back into virgin weight.

See, that is what I think would have happen if I tried it. On my last round I tried a few things on the weekends and always stalled so I spent most of the following week playing catch up. I may try it though and see what happens and just increase my days on p2 to make up for it :P

[Selahgal]

Originally Posted by ChristiansMom

Someone told me about this thread so I thought I'd check it out. I don't have time to go back and read from the beginning, right now, but I will at some point.

I did HHCG for one round and I failed once I got to P3. Gained it all back. I still have 2 bottles of HHCG and I'm currently back on LC because that's what works for me. I've been thinking of doing the HHCG along with a LC diet but I'm not sure if that's the best idea or not. I really do not think I can go back to doing 500 calories again and risking the fail in P3 like last time.

So my question is: Do I need to "load" or can I just go straight into taking the drops tomorrow morning and eating LC like I have been and when I run out of the drops - if I decide not to go back on them, do I need to do anything different at the end to make it worth the effort (if I have lost)? I hope that makes sense

Thanks for any help you can give.

I did the hHCG on plan for 2 weeks last March, then P2 'rogue' for the next five rounds. This year I'm doing low carb again ... with the hHCG drops. I was doing LC when I discovered the drops.

I am not going to load but I only loaded twice in five rounds when I was doing it close to the original plan last year and I just don't see the need for it for myself anyway.

I was going to start on Saturday but decided I still had some stuff to 'eat up' and didn't want to rush that so I'm planning on beginning Jan. 10th.

[Gremom]

Originally Posted by phxheelgirl

Hi ChristiansMom

While not an expert by any means, this is my 2nd round. I did not load before I started this round, because, to be honest, I had been eating so poorly in between rounds that I considered it ALL to be a very long load! So I would say personally I would go in to LC with drops (no loading) and see what happens! Do keep us all updated on your progress. I, for one, am VERY curious to see if you get good results! Would like to try that myself!

Originally Posted by Healthy and Happy

All I ever got from loading was extra lbs to lose.

I agree with both of you. I do a LC version on the drops and I have lost 4.5lbs in about a week (after load). I may not be losing faster, but this is something that I can manage and keep up with. Give it a try and see what happens. I bet you will do well.

[minimonkey]

Wow, ladies -- so exciting to read everyone's results. I am so interested to see how people do using the drops with LC, too... I am to scared to tweak anything right now.

SO... since the scale didn't move, I measured. I have lost almost an inch off my butt, and a full inch off each thigh! Losses elsewhere are minimal (an inch off the bust, but I think that is mostly TOM before and after.. I usually gain an inch in the second half of my cycle.) You know what that means?

THIS IS COMING OFF MY PROBLEM AREAS! Now, that is worth a mighty wooohooo!

[Gremom]

Originally Posted by minimonkey

Wow, ladies -- so exciting to read everyone's results. I am so interested to see how people do using the drops with LC, too... I am to scared to tweak anything right now.

SO... since the scale didn't move, I measured. I have lost almost an inch off my butt, and a full inch off each thigh! Losses elsewhere are minimal (an inch off the bust, but I think that is mostly TOM before and after.. I usually gain an inch in the second half of my cycle.) You know what that means?

THIS IS COMING OFF MY PROBLEM AREAS! Now, that is worth a mighty wooohooo!

WOO HOO!!!

[baugherk]

Just checking in for today. Today was day 2 of the hhCG drops and day 4 of my diet. Lost another pound today.

I have eaten LC most of my adult life so I definitely plan to keep eating LC while doing this. I've also been eating low cal this week but plan to cycle to higher cals (still very low carb) over the weekend just to mix it up. But since this is my first round of hhCG, I don't plan to get too crazy with higher cals--just so that I can keep my own commitment firm (if that makes sense). Once I hit a stall, I'll do more calorie cycling probably.

My office plans to start a Biggest Loser competition on January 18th but we're only going for 8 weeks. That will be interesting.

I've had very poor sleep the last two nights which is exceedingly unusual for me. Hope to make up for it tonight.

Best to all of you

KB

[Jenmay78]

Hi everyone...i don't get an opportunity to post often but thought I'd share this excerpt from my journal...
I reviewed my journal today and realized that I hit onederland 9/24/10. That is entirely too much time to gain and lose five pounds for the last 2.5 months. So, I decided to watch the Jon Gabriel method videos. I am an emotional fatty. I need the fat suit to fit in with those that i accompany. I take on their habits and feel the need to blend in. It is very difficult for me to visualize myself slim, but once I see the body coming out of the water wearing the beautiful white bikini...i smile. However, it's hard for me to picture my face on the gorgeous, hot body. I guess this is my mind saying that there is not way that I can be thin. That really sucks! So, i plan to super impose my face on some hot actresses' body so I can visualize this...lol! Also, my weight gain happened when I was young. I was rewarded with food so I see food as a reward and a comfort. I also noticed that my weight will go down when I am trying to be more attractive to a potential mate. I have been using the kitty cat method with the dangerous dog every time I go up my stairs. I pretend there's a big dog chasing me with rabies. I do not have any trouble visualizing this.

[Selahgal]

Originally Posted by Jenmay78

Hi everyone...i don't get an opportunity to post often but thought I'd share this excerpt from my journal...
I reviewed my journal today and realized that I hit onederland 9/24/10. That is entirely too much time to gain and lose five pounds for the last 2.5 months. So, I decided to watch the Jon Gabriel method videos. I am an emotional fatty. I need the fat suit to fit in with those that i accompany. I take on their habits and feel the need to blend in. It is very difficult for me to visualize myself slim, but once I see the body coming out of the water wearing the beautiful white bikini...i smile. However, it's hard for me to picture my face on the gorgeous, hot body. I guess this is my mind saying that there is not way that I can be thin. That really sucks! So, i plan to super impose my face on some hot actresses' body so I can visualize this...lol! Also, my weight gain happened when I was young. I was rewarded with food so I see food as a reward and a comfort. I also noticed that my weight will go down when I am trying to be more attractive to a potential mate. I have been using the kitty cat method with the dangerous dog every time I go up my stairs. I pretend there's a big dog chasing me with rabies. I do not have any trouble visualizing this.

That's interesting! I visualize myself as FIT and LEAN and STRONG when I listen to Jon's audio CD. I won't know how well that part of this is working until I'm back on LC, but I look forward to the results! Before long we'll need a Jon Gabriel thread! haha

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by Jenmay78

Hi everyone...i don't get an opportunity to post often but thought I'd share this excerpt from my journal...
I reviewed my journal today and realized that I hit onederland 9/24/10. That is entirely too much time to gain and lose five pounds for the last 2.5 months. So, I decided to watch the Jon Gabriel method videos. I am an emotional fatty. I need the fat suit to fit in with those that i accompany. I take on their habits and feel the need to blend in. It is very difficult for me to visualize myself slim, but once I see the body coming out of the water wearing the beautiful white bikini...i smile. However, it's hard for me to picture my face on the gorgeous, hot body. I guess this is my mind saying that there is not way that I can be thin. That really sucks! So, i plan to super impose my face on some hot actresses' body so I can visualize this...lol! Also, my weight gain happened when I was young. I was rewarded with food so I see food as a reward and a comfort. I also noticed that my weight will go down when I am trying to be more attractive to a potential mate. I have been using the kitty cat method with the dangerous dog every time I go up my stairs. I pretend there's a big dog chasing me with rabies. I do not have any trouble visualizing this.

That Is AWESOME !!!! Jen!! so happy you found some time to watch it.. Jon really gets to the root of what caused us to get fat in the beginning and what is keeping us that way... FANTASTIC! you and all of us can do this thing... one big dog chase at a time!....

For those who have not watched the video yet, I would really recommend that you do... just to put some good positive thoughts in your mind.. I'll post the video here.

YouTube - Jon Gabriel - The Gabriel Method

[minimonkey]

Jenmay -- interesting observations! I am not familiar with the Jon Gabriel method, but I figure anything that helps is worth a go.

I, also, put on weight when I was young.. a pre-teen, dealing with abuse. Being an overweight child in the 80s (well, normal by today's standards, but not then) made for a horrendous early adolescence, and I eventually developed an eating disorder from starving myself thin. That was over 20 years ago, and I did recover.


I've lost and gained weight a number of times in my adult life, spending most of it at a relatively normal weight, with a couple of periods of being quite heavy for my stature. The interesting part is that something new is happening this time.... I find a lot of early memories beginning to surface having to do with the time in my life when I first gained weight. I wonder if I am somehow clearing out some of the emotional baggage that led to me gaining, along with clearing out the fat? A little bit of a wacky theory, maybe, but it seems possible to me.

[Healthy and Happy]

Wow... I had not heard of the Gabriel Method either but it is very intriguing. Thanks for sharing!

Down .6 today.

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by Gweebles

my fast of choice is no food from sunup to sunset and when I eat, no sugar or wheat. So, I'm on bacon and eggs!

Really cool plan - and to think you have church support too! Can't wait to hear how it works for you!

Originally Posted by minimonkey

THIS IS COMING OFF MY PROBLEM AREAS! Now, that is worth a mighty wooohooo!

Awesome! And just remember...if the scale stays the same for several days (I had six days in a row once of about the same)...just means you are getting ready for a HUGE whoosh!

Originally Posted by Jenmay78

So, i plan to super impose my face on some hot actresses' body so I can visualize this...lol! Also, my weight gain happened when I was young.

I have done that before - Angelina Jolie from Tomb RAiders! I also wasn't chubby till post college, so I dragged out a picture of me in a bikini from right before I turned 15. And one from when I was 17 in a one piece. They are up on my fridge. My kids didn't know who it was.

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

Jon really gets to the root of what caused us to get fat in the beginning and what is keeping us that way...

For me that wasn't the case I think. I got fat feeling starved and never really eating more than 2000 calories a day. I just read Good Calories Bad Calories and liked what he had to say about overweight people being in a state of semi-starvation, with the fat locked in our cells and not releasing when it should due to too much insulin. I'd like to pick up his new book too. I guess there's so many factors that play into how we get fat...emotional eating (definitely have), thyroid, hormones, insulin, crap carb diet, etc.

But I really do like his positive affirmation and meditation thing...very relaxing and makes me just feel like I'm shrinking! I keep visualizing my girls staying firm and upright...but somehow that part has not been working. But the belly has been shrinking like I want.

Deb, hope the cold is getting better! Are you taking vitamin D this winter? Really helps cut down on the # of colds for me.


So excited I am down another pound today and into virgin weight, and body fat finally budged a bit down. This has been a good week, I need to prepare for TOM striking next week and whatever effect that will have.

[ollie]

Hi guys,
Just checking in. VLCD#4 - down 6lbs
I was actually up 1lb yesterday, and then got a big release today.

I'm really liking the relaxed protocol - I don't feel as deprived or as hungry as I did the first round.

Hope everyone is having a wonderful day today!

Originally Posted by SkinnyBySummer

I love the idea of doing more an atkins style diet with hcg but have noticed that most of you are using drops, my question is if I up my cals but keep carbs low on injections do you think that will work or is it somehow a hhcg drop phenomenon? I really hate to waste a brand new mixed bottle of hcg and have to buy a bottle of hhcg, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, I am hoping that if I can do this rogue style of diet maybe I will have an easier time stabilizing because I won't be so mentally starved after my round.

Just wondering what your mix consists of? I also do Rx HCG, but I mix it for sublingual use. I think the injection mix just contains sterile water???
Maybe you could just take the mix sublingually, adjusting the dose for sublingual administration??? Just a thought

[gwynhyvar]

Originally Posted by paulabob

I just read Good Calories Bad Calories and liked what he had to say about overweight people being in a state of semi-starvation, with the fat locked in our cells and not releasing when it should due to too much insulin. I'd like to pick up his new book too. I guess there's so many factors that play into how we get fat...emotional eating (definitely have), thyroid, hormones, insulin, crap carb diet, etc.

I just picked up the new book, and can't put it down. GREAT information! For those that are wondering, it's "Why We Get Fat and what to do about it" by Gary Taubes.

Originally Posted by ollie

Hi guys,
Just checking in. VLCD#4 - down 6lbs
I was actually up 1lb yesterday, and then got a big release today.

Glad you said that, cuz I'm up 1 lb. today and freaking out!

[MagieDen]

Originally Posted by ollie

Hi guys,
Just checking in. VLCD#4 - down 6lbs
I was actually up 1lb yesterday, and then got a big release today.

I'm really liking the relaxed protocol - I don't feel as deprived or as hungry as I did the first round.

Hope everyone is having a wonderful day today!





Just wondering what your mix consists of? I also do Rx HCG, but I mix it for sublingual use. I think the injection mix just contains sterile water???
Maybe you could just take the mix sublingually, adjusting the dose for sublingual administration??? Just a thought

your Avi with the kitty cat. Your Username is the name of my female tuxedo cat.

Kitties....too cute.

You are doing GREAT!

[j4Christ]

thanks, Deb, for sharing the Gabriel method video. I'm about 1/2 way through it. Very interesting!

So, I am down 1 more lb. Not really sure why cuz I am not followiing my plan! But I'll take it!

Gotta go, I spent too much time watching the video!! Have great releases everyone!!

[baugherk]

Morning everyone.

Today is day 5 on the diet, my third day using hhcg. Finally got the pellets in the mail yesterday, so plan to do drops at home and pellets midday at work.

Since it's the first week and first round for me, I'm still being pretty strict. So, fasting til dinner and then I eat only one meal a day. I've been eating very clean low carb and low cals. Decided last night to add in a protein shake as a dessert and to up the protein a bit.

Down 0.4 pounds this am. Yea!

Here we go!