i was hoping we could talk about hcg???

[amway]

I did hcg for almost 2 weeks before I did LC and i was SO insanely hungry! Does anyone know what that might have been? could it be that my body was so addicted to carbs when i began, that itjust didn't agree with me at the time?

i LOVE lc, but i really want to go down a couple pant sizes very quickly, and would love to try hcg again. it's hard.. VERY VERY hard. but for 30 days.. if i wasn't hungry i think i could do it.

do you think that maybe since iv'e been doing lc for almost 2 mos - that i would do okay with it now??? I have been diagnosed hypoglycemia but I dont feel that way on this diet...

[stardustshadow]

I don't really know much about Hcg...is this where you get injections of the hormone?

[amway]

well, I was doing the homeopathic drops. i do wonder if the injections are 'better.'

[tempted_by_food]

Come and join the non simeons thread there are people doing the HHCG and there own plans and losing nicely without hunger HCG Non Simeons Week of Dec- 6- 2010

[amway]

woo, is that how you got your big numbers???? (loss)

I'd love to do my own plan. I have heard so many times thatif you eat more than the 500 calories, or fat or whatever, you will gain like mad!

[tempted_by_food]

Definitley not true, the girl who started the above thread has lost nearly 80lbs in 4 months doing it her way, you should definetley check it out my losses have been a few different plans counting calories, lowcarb and when I couldnt lose anymore I did a clean round of HHCG now a rogure round, I just wish I found this way at the beginning it is great!! Quite a few are doing lowcarb and the drops and it is working!!!

[kristina]

I don't get taking HcG for weight loss It's a pregnancy hormone that raises progesterone to keep the pregnancy. I would think it would make someone hungry, cause I was starving when I was pregnant

[kristina]

Originally Posted by amway

woo, is that how you got your big numbers???? (loss)

I'd love to do my own plan. I have heard so many times thatif you eat more than the 500 calories, or fat or whatever, you will gain like mad!

You live on 500 calories on this? I'd be starving too...yikes....

[amway]

yeh- i didn't get it at first eitehr. but when i read up on it it makes sense

[Tyl]

yea go to the non-simeons thread... its the most supportive place on this board and you can get your questions answered there. there are a lot of folks who are eating more on the plan and losing, so check it out

[amway]

kristina- the hcg makes you not hungry it's pretty amazing- or seems like it, for others. i can't speak from experience. you lose SO fast though on it, and it's supposed to reset your hypothalmus gland (sp) etc.. I believe in the diet, I just dont wanna do it again if i'm going to be hungry. ok ill start following the other thread, and prolly not post on this one again.

[metqa]

When I did Rx HCG I loaded really REally Big at the start and wasn't hungry at all the first round I did. The second round I didn't feel like loading as much and I was much hungrier much sooner and all through the round it was harder to stay strict,than the first time when I over-loaded at the start. I think the way you start the plan does a lot for how you go through the round.

[Looweewoo]

While I personally think that the hormone shots may be of some real effect, the word "homeopathic" means "magical" to me - which moves it right out of any consideration on my part.

[amway]

*snicker* magical.. hehe I hear you.

afa loading- i loaded on a bunch of sugary fatty junk like they suggested. this time i think id load a ton on bacon and fry everything in lard etc. for my load days and id def skip the sugar all together.

ll get to "researching" and work on a plan... I'll probably start jan 1 or something just to have a nice even date. if i can afford it. if i do shots i'm sure it's more epensive.

[metqa]

Well, I don't know the cost of the Hhcg but the cost of the Rx round has to include the cost of supplies like the needles and the mixing water and vials. But the upside is that you have less chance for error cause you only dose once a day. No tapping, no mint aversions, no waiting before or after eating, no 2-3 doses a day.

just poink and done.

[paulabob]

Hey amway, I'm also hypoglycemic and was hungry on standard protocol. I dropped the fruit and never did the melba, and that helped a tiny bit.

But what helped me most was to aim for at least 60-70 grams of protein a day. Then I experience almost no hunger on my version of the plan. Just thought I'd share that with you in case you try again.

I was also starved when I did the ATkins fat fast, which had twice as many calories but less protein (or at least it did for me with the things I chose). So I think some people will feel hunger without adequate protein in their diet, whatever WOE it is.

Definitely don't carb load...it just isn't worth it. That's definitely the silliest part of the plan. A nice high fat day or two works much better!

[puttchikins]

well I did it for 2 months...It is really easy to stick to the 500 calories although I must say it was never easy not to have breakfast...But this week my hair started to fall out in bunches..Same thing happened on Kimkins a few years ago...500 calories in not enough to nourish everything and I guess your hair just loses out..The diet is easy the drops really really do help but I guess I'm off for awhile...

[amway]

i giggled out loud at "poink." LOL it does seem much nicer. but.... we already have WOAH debt and I dont have cash at this point. maybe ill wait til february.

thx for the protein tip!!

my hair was clogging the drain when I did the raw vegan diet. iw as losing an average of 6lb/month, probably eating around 700 calories a day and it was terrifying to lose my hair. I def don't want that to happen again! I was on for 4 mos tho.. I wonder if a month of fast loss would do the same thing... *thinking*

[paulabob]

Yes, I have had some hair loss. I'm taking biotin now which helps. I don't think it's any more common than other diets where weight is coming off quickly. I've lost 40 pounds since the start of July...which is totally fast for me, but I've seen a lot of people lose that quickly on Atkins. It's not quite as bad as when I was 4 months postpartum after my first. My poor baby was constantly covered in my hair... Apparently childbirth is a "shock" to the system, like weight loss can be. Hair follicles move into resting phase and shed.

I do like that official protocol is 3 weeks on, 6 weeks off, which gives your body a chance to get well nourished.

[WildflowerMama]

Originally Posted by Looweewoo

While I personally think that the hormone shots may be of some real effect, the word "homeopathic" means "magical" to me - which moves it right out of any consideration on my part.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions but, as someone who is on the homeopathic HCG, it works.

I experience minimal hunger. I do experience some but, I don't judge a diets worth on whether or not I feel hunger. I should feel hunger. There's nothing wrong with feeling hunger. What I don't feel is starving. I never feel starved. I actually feel fantastic!

And, just from experiences here and other boards, those of us on the homeopathic loose just as much weight as those on the injections.

I've lost 3lbs in the last 3 days. In my previous 23 day round, I lost 14 lbs and kept it off quite easily.

Everyone has to do their own research and make their own decisions but, as someone on the homeopathic pellets (previously on the drops) I can say without a doubt, they work for me.

[WildflowerMama]

OP - back to your question - did you try adjusting your dose?

I know for me, when I did the drops, I dosed 10 drops, 4 times a day. That really kept the hunger at bay for me.

This time, I'm on the pellets and the dose is 4 pellets 3 times a day. I find I need the 4th dose so, I do one additional dose of drops in addition to the 3 pellet doses.

[metqa]

I though it was supposed to be 100g of meat for each meal so a total of 200g of meat each day or are you talking the actual protein content of the meat?

Y'know beef has more protein per gram than chicken or fish, so I'm not surprised that most people felt more sated with beef meals than the chicken or fish.

[Looweewoo]

I have no doubt it works for you. Please don't take this as any sort of criticism.

But placebo works in 40% of migraine cases, and since morphine only works slightly better (60% or so), I would never denigrate placebo. Magic is still around, no matter what the proof against it, because individuals often perceive it as working for them and that's ok with me.

[WildflowerMama]

Honestly, I don't think the placebo effect could sustain me on 500 calories a day over an extended period of time.

But to each their own

[amway]

ty everyone, lots to think about!

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by Looweewoo

But placebo works in 40% of migraine cases, and since morphine only works slightly better (60% or so), I would never denigrate placebo. Magic is still around, no matter what the proof against it, because individuals often perceive it as working for them and that's ok with me.

Actually knowing that the drops works as well for me as the RX shots doesn't mean they are effective. Both could be placebo effects. I'm an analytical person and like to understand how things work. BUT, sometimes, when something is working, I just roll with it!

[Looweewoo]

Originally Posted by paulabob

when something is working, I just roll with it!

Absolutely! People often get upset over the words "placebo effect" but hey, it's an effect. What you really want is the effect, there's no reason to be stuffy about how you get that effect.

Of course, the folks who make money off of what is provably just pure water kinda earn my disrespect, but as long as people are paying for it willingly, I'm not against it.

[kristina]

I can't do any diet where I am hungry. Thanks for the information I had kind of been wondering as I saw the hcg in some sig lines.

[Kiley2801]

Originally Posted by kristina

I can't do any diet where I am hungry. Thanks for the information I had kind of been wondering as I saw the hcg in some sig lines.

Trust me I am not trying to convince you. I'm assuming whatever way of eating you are doing is working for you.

All I'll say is that I normally have the appetite of a mountain lion in heat, and I wasn't hungry on 500 cals a day using hcg.

[kristina]

I didn't say you were.....just curious about how this worked