Simeon's Protocol - Week of 11/08/2010

[dawnyama]

Well I knew it would not last long!! I am up a pound today. But that is OK. I knew that it was too good to be true to stay at 2 lbs below LDW for long. I ate some great food yesterday so it is all good!!! Enjoy your Friday. I will be cooking today so that I can have some P3 friendly foods on hand this weekend. Happy weekend too!!!!!!!!!!!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by KOO

Hey! Everyone seems to be doing so well! M is still staying in the upper window of her LDW. I try to remind her to weigh in most mornings so we can make sure she stays in that window. She is happy with her weight where it is for the time being, hopefully she stays stable through the holidays and then she can jump in with another round in January.

That is great news about m!!!! Yes, she needs to keep weighing in so that she can get a handle on being stable. Is she in P4 now? Any new foods she has tried yet?

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by savbaby

well, seems like it was my bum drops that were causing my problems! Switched yesterday to the new bottle, and was full and this morning I was down .8~ much more like what I'm used to seeing. I keep my bottles away from anything in the bathroom. I wonder if I touched the dropper to my tongue? I probably did in my laziness! Feeling much better and fuller with the new drops. Hope everyone has a wonderful Veteran's Day! Thanks to all the soldiers and families that support and fight for our freedom!

So sorry about your drops. But glad you are not hungry anymore. Being hungry just sucks! Have a great Friday!!!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Emi

Well, today no change .. my last day before P3 ... I think it maybe because of TOM .. who knows w/me ... and I sure have been HUNGRY!

Just want to add a thank you to all veterns, acitive duty and familiies of military!!!! You ARE appreciated!

Hope everyone is having a good day!

Yeah for being in P3!!! What are you going to enjoy first?? My first go to item on P3 is eggs for breakfast fried in butter!!! Love it!!! Anything in butter is fabulous after being fat deprived for 21+ days!!!

[paulabob]

Ladies, I need a kick in the pants. I rushed P3 instead of doing my vlcd's after LDW properly, and am up 3.2 from LDW. :blush:

I guess I was just so tired of P2 foods. I'm not ready to do a correction day, but am going to try to eat clean today and see what happens - I know some of this is water retention. Send your strength my way today! I'm going to get to the grocery store and pick up some good foods.

Lots of strong ladies on the board! KUTGW!

[torister]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

Correction:
That song REALLY shows my age. All of you youngens' would, probably, need to google to even know what I was *singing*!!!!

I love Queen...specifically Freddie Mercury. I saw them at the Boston Garden "back in the day" when Freddie was still alive.

[Mindfulness]

R2,P2,VLCD #5 after 13 day interruption
Weight on VLCD#1 : 166.4
Yesterday's weight: 163.4
Today's weight: 162.2
# gain/loss from yesterday: -1.2 lbs
Total lost this round(not counting load weight): -1.8

Now we're getting somewhere!

Down 1.2 lbs two days in a row! Kicking TOM out the door...

I was hungry again yesterday, craving fat. I listened to my body and fed it. Hopefully, that doesn't bite me in the butt tomorrow. I was NOT going to turn this into an experiment. I was going to do strict protocol. But when the hunger starts messing with my head, I start thinking about that darn rogue thread and convince myself that I can eat more and still lose. So I guess this is turning into an experiment after all.

I'm really unhappy about the price of strawberries. Sam's had them for $7 for 2 lbs! I guess I'm gonna have to start buying frozen. Yuk. What do you do with them besides smoothies?

Yesterday's menu:
Breakfast: coffee with stevia
Lunch: chicken and cabbage soup, grissini
Snack: apple, string cheese(not on protocol), handful of mixed nuts(not on protocol)
Dinner: Sirloin steak, sliced tomatoes
Dessert: strawberries with stevia

[dawnyama]

Stacey

I could not bear to buy them at the store either. So sad looking and expensive. I just bought frozen and don't have any ideas besides smoothies!! I don't like them thawed and eaten plain. I bought some grapefruit and had that at breakfast and will get in an apple later today. I am done with strawberries til Jan!!

[kathy76]

The frozen strawberries are great with warm water in a magic bullet and a little bit of stevia. It tastes like yummy sorbet or a whole fruit bar. I think I might try making some popsicles out of it so it takes longer to eat

I saw this posted on another board and thought it would be a great alternative to smoothies....it is

[BonBon19]

I like frozen strawberries with a little real cream poured over them. Then, I eat them frozen, kind of tastes like strawberry ice cream!

[slinginfat]

Beginning weight: 199.5
VLCD:
#1 201.5
#2 199.5 (-2.0)
#3 198.0 (-3.5)
#4 195.5 (-6.0)
#5 194.0 (-7.5)
#6 193.0 (-8.5)
#7 194.0 (-7.5)
#8 192.5 (-9.0)
#9 191.5 (-10.0)
#10 190.5 (-11.0)
#11 188.0 (-13.5)

I am ecstatic! I switched things up a little yesterday and had 1/2 a grapefruit as my dinner fruit instead of my usual apple and didn't eat my grissini with that meal either. I also had fish so in all I was probably 60 cal under my normal day, which seems to hover around 540. I in NO way expected a 2.5 lb loss though!

I was shooting for the 189.5 by Monday morning. How ridiculous is this- I actually got on and off the scale 4 times to make sure it read the same each time! I usually only do that when the number is higher than I want to see.

[Stevie Renee]

Everyone is doing so well Glad to be back!

Picture time from Seattle, WA! It was brisk and cold but very little rain. so that was way doable.

I am back from vacation and looks like I am .5 above my window. yeah! I am doing a mini steak day just to help purge along the vacation bloat. My DH said he though I should have lost weight because we walked so much and I did stay on P3 program.

Here is my son and I and those are my size 6, skinny jeans. They are actually baggie in the crotch area now! Woohoo!


And this dog came out of nowhere following DH eating a kabob. Cracked us up!


And the lovely view coming in off the ferry.
Seattle....

[KOO]

Originally Posted by Gracie514

Yeah for M!!!!! She deserves a nice break for the holidays and then she will be ready for another P2 come January. My only advice is to not let the weight creep back up - as soon as she goes over 2 lbs. correct it. I have been 5-8 pounds above LDW before and had to work it back off - UGH.

Yeah it is the little bitty every day creep that is scary.

Originally Posted by Emi

So glad M is still holding steady .. good for her, I'm sure it's not easy w/her young social activities!!!

Thanks!

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Well I knew it would not last long!! I am up a pound today. But that is OK. I knew that it was too good to be true to stay at 2 lbs below LDW for long. I ate some great food yesterday so it is all good!!! Enjoy your Friday. I will be cooking today so that I can have some P3 friendly foods on hand this weekend. Happy weekend too!!!!!!!!!!!

So are you considering your window from the 2 lbs. under the LDW or do you consider the window from the LDW? Since M went 3 lbs. under the LDW I have been considering the two pound window from that. Today though she was out of that window with her cycle due this weekend (but actually still in the LDW window). Her LDW was 168.5, her low after LDW was 165, she has been swinging between 165 and 167, today she is up to 169 with TOM lurking in the shadows. Is she still considered okay since she is within her LDW window or should she be going by her lowest weight and do a correction day?
I should have knocked on wood yesterday when I posted she was doing well.

Originally Posted by dawnyama

That is great news about m!!!! Yes, she needs to keep weighing in so that she can get a handle on being stable. Is she in P4 now? Any new foods she has tried yet?

She has been in P4 since 10/30, so it will be two weeks on Saturday. She has eaten cake, pasta, beans and rice, a smoothie, bread (but not like on a burger, she has been eating the burgers Atkins style so far). I am trying to teach her it is okay to have the carbs but if you show a gain to step back from them for a couple of days.

[Chouter]

Originally Posted by paulabob

Ladies, I need a kick in the pants. I rushed P3 instead of doing my vlcd's after LDW properly, and am up 3.2 from LDW. :blush:

I guess I was just so tired of P2 foods. I'm not ready to do a correction day, but am going to try to eat clean today and see what happens - I know some of this is water retention. Send your strength my way today! I'm going to get to the grocery store and pick up some good foods.

Lots of strong ladies on the board! KUTGW!

Paula, I did the same thing, and I gained nearly 5 lbs. I am only now back in my 2 lbs. window, but I didn't do a correction day. I just can't bring myself to do them after finally getting off P2. I just tried to eat clean, and it came off slowly. Very slowly.

[Chouter]

Stevie - beautiful pics! I just love Seattle. You really lucked out with the weather! We are expecting a terrible winter, but what that means, we don't know yet. Last year was mild, with not one flake of snow. The year before that, we were snowed in for two weeks and got dumped on every day. (I loved it!) The year before that, we had terrible winds and lost power for NINE days! It's always an adventure here.

You did great with your protocol while you were away!

[torister]

Originally Posted by KOO

Her LDW was 168.5, her low after LDW was 165, she has been swinging between 165 and 167, today she is up to 169 with TOM lurking in the shadows. Is she still considered okay since she is within her LDW window or should she be going by her lowest weight and do a correction day?

Her window is from her LDW...NOT her lowest weight.

[KOO]

Originally Posted by torister

Her window is from her LDW...NOT her lowest weight.

Well I guess it is all good then since today she was only .5 higher than the LDW!
Now to keep it there, or lower. Thanks Peggy!

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

Week three is done; 6 more pounds gone. I did nothing different this week, than I did last week. JUST stuck to protocol. I'll have to see if week 4 is like week 2....see if it's an every other week thing? Anyone do 4, or more, weeks? What was your experience? Did you have a slower 2cnd week, or 3rd week only, or did you experience an every other slower week?

Meals:

Atleast 2 liters of water

Lunch:
Grilled (non injected) chicken breast; 100gr
Cucumber, or tomato
Apple
Grissini

Dinner:
Tilapia
Cucumber, or aparagus
Strawberries
Grissini

No sweetners, no tweeking anything...just plain old Protocol

Pre-load: 221
Post-Load: 223.4
R1P2 VLCD #22: 204.4

Weight loss (post-load): 19.0 pounds
Weight loss (pre-load): 16.6 virgin pounds...after 21 days of being on VLCDs

Weight lost since yesterday: 1 pounds

R1 goal: 197;or less (7.4 lbs., or more, to go )

Another one gone, and another one gone. Another one bites the dust, another one bites the dust. Hey,hey....another one bites the dust.
Call the doctor...

That song REALLY shows my age. All of you youngens' would, probably, need to google to even know what I was signing!!!!

Shorter day today. Hope to be able to "talk" with all of you tonight.

I love that song!!! We actually played it when we were introduced at our wedding reception

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Well I knew it would not last long!! I am up a pound today. But that is OK. I knew that it was too good to be true to stay at 2 lbs below LDW for long. I ate some great food yesterday so it is all good!!! Enjoy your Friday. I will be cooking today so that I can have some P3 friendly foods on hand this weekend. Happy weekend too!!!!!!!!!!!

Happens to me every time I start a P3 - no worries, you know what to do!

Originally Posted by paulabob

Ladies, I need a kick in the pants. I rushed P3 instead of doing my vlcd's after LDW properly, and am up 3.2 from LDW. :blush:

I guess I was just so tired of P2 foods. I'm not ready to do a correction day, but am going to try to eat clean today and see what happens - I know some of this is water retention. Send your strength my way today! I'm going to get to the grocery store and pick up some good foods.

Lots of strong ladies on the board! KUTGW!

Don't stress, that's only 1.2# from your window. Eat a clean P3 today with lots of fat and moderate protein and you will be fine.

Originally Posted by slinginfat

Beginning weight: 199.5
VLCD:
#1 201.5
#2 199.5 (-2.0)
#3 198.0 (-3.5)
#4 195.5 (-6.0)
#5 194.0 (-7.5)
#6 193.0 (-8.5)
#7 194.0 (-7.5)
#8 192.5 (-9.0)
#9 191.5 (-10.0)
#10 190.5 (-11.0)
#11 188.0 (-13.5)

I am ecstatic! I switched things up a little yesterday and had 1/2 a grapefruit as my dinner fruit instead of my usual apple and didn't eat my grissini with that meal either. I also had fish so in all I was probably 60 cal under my normal day, which seems to hover around 540. I in NO way expected a 2.5 lb loss though!

I was shooting for the 189.5 by Monday morning. How ridiculous is this- I actually got on and off the scale 4 times to make sure it read the same each time! I usually only do that when the number is higher than I want to see.

WOOT WOOT!!! Way to go!!!!!!!!!


Stevie ~ Great pics, you look fabulous!!!!

Stacey ~ Nice to see the scale moving for you! If your body is craving a little more fat, you must accommodate!!!

[Ladidah]

Originally Posted by Mindfulness

I was hungry again yesterday, craving fat. I listened to my body and fed it. Hopefully, that doesn't bite me in the butt tomorrow. I was NOT going to turn this into an experiment. I was going to do strict protocol. But when the hunger starts messing with my head, I start thinking about that darn rogue thread and convince myself that I can eat more and still lose. So I guess this is turning into an experiment after all.

I'm really unhappy about the price of strawberries. Sam's had them for $7 for 2 lbs! I guess I'm gonna have to start buying frozen. Yuk. What do you do with them besides smoothies?

I could have posted this. It is so hard to stay strict! My bugaboo is cream in my coffee. I can drink it black, but I don't want to. It is my one most favorite thing, and I feel that bit of fat helps me in the bernice department - so I keep it. I hear you about the strawberries; they're getting more bitter now, too. I have been buying frozen. I eat them with a little splenda. I hate dirtying the blender for a handful!

Yesterday my SO came home from work and wanted to get his free Applebee's meal (he's a veteran) so I went with him. This was my first dining out while on protocol experience. I ordered a chicken Caesar salad, half order, and I think the amount of protein on it was right on. I know there was dressing (it was very light though), and shaved Parmesan (very little), but the croutons were sinful - like they had been sauteed in butter. Plus I ordered a breadstick, which I should have given to my SO. Oh well. I think I did OK, considering I could have splurged and gotten something worse.

So, P2VLCD5 and I'm up 0.2. I have TOM so I expect a few variations.

[dawnyama]

Stevie--great pictures!! Looks like you all had a fabulous time. And to come home to a great number on the scale---even better!! Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!

Koo---I see that Peggy answered your question. Your LDW IS what you go by, not your lowest after coming off of the hcg. Looks like she is doing really well in her P4 too. That is great that she is eating some carbs and being so stable. Congrats to her!!!!!!!!

slingingfat---WOWZER what a drop!!! That is fabulous!!!! Keep it up!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by kathy76

The frozen strawberries are great with warm water in a magic bullet and a little bit of stevia. It tastes like yummy sorbet or a whole fruit bar. I think I might try making some popsicles out of it so it takes longer to eat

That IS how I eat my frozen strawberries!! But I add a whole peeled lemon to it for strawberry lemonade. Yum!! But now that it is colder out, I am not liking the cold things too much.

[CurveControl]

HI! Hopng my dropd come today.

What is LDW? (last day weight?)

I have been 'loading' since I ordered the dang drops. way more than 3 days. More like a week (tomorrow is a week):blush: so am I good to go when they come? There is only one thing I realy really want and since DH is on LC I will have to do it for lunch one day, probably the day my drops come so I can start right away.

can you guys on P2VLCD most more daily menus? I am still trying to get a feel for stuff I can have.

Thanks!!
I am thinking I will measure my bust, waist and hips is all, because I usually use my clothes to judge my shape changing. Sadly the sweat pants and Tshirts I have been mostly reduced to don't help me judge well LOL.

[Ladidah]

LDW = last dosing weight; which is the weight you are on the last day you dose. Then you still do 2 VLCDs (48 hours) and then move on to P3. It gives you a weight that you try and maintain (+ or - 2 lbs) in P3. It is not your lowest weight on P2; mine is usually a lb or two higher than my lowest.

You need to load still, while dosing. I know it is hard, but it really does help the first week.

My menu is something like this:

B: Coffee
L: P2 chili {(lean beef, fire roasted tomatoes, a spice mix with cocoa, chili powder, onion powder, garlic powder and a little bit of chili paste, added beef broth). I eat it every day and I am OK with it.} Grissini, apple.
D: Chicken and cabbage sauteed in chicken broth with Bragg's amino acids added, ginger, chinese 5 spice, garlic. Grissini and strawberries.

Just check spices for added sugars/starches.

[KOO]

Originally Posted by CurveControl

HI! Hopng my dropd come today.

What is LDW? (last day weight?)

I have been 'loading' since I ordered the dang drops. way more than 3 days. More like a week (tomorrow is a week):blush: so am I good to go when they come? There is only one thing I realy really want and since DH is on LC I will have to do it for lunch one day, probably the day my drops come so I can start right away.

can you guys on P2VLCD most more daily menus? I am still trying to get a feel for stuff I can have.

Thanks!!
I am thinking I will measure my bust, waist and hips is all, because I usually use my clothes to judge my shape changing. Sadly the sweat pants and Tshirts I have been mostly reduced to don't help me judge well LOL.

Molly, the LDW is the last dosing weight. It is what you weigh when you get up and take that last dose for the round.

As far as the loading, you have to wait and do your loading for two days while taking the drops. You load up on fats while taking the drops the first two days so that your body has excess to feed on until the drops take effect. If you don't do this it will leave you starving until the drops kick in.

I hope your drops come in today! Happy loading!

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by CurveControl

What is LDW? (last day weight?)

can you guys on P2VLCD most more daily menus? I am still trying to get a feel for stuff I can have.

Thanks!!
I am thinking I will measure my bust, waist and hips is all, because I usually use my clothes to judge my shape changing. Sadly the sweat pants and Tshirts I have been mostly reduced to don't help me judge well LOL.

Yes, it's last dose weight (last day weight works as well). There is a P2 menu thread you can scan with lots of ideas, and be sure to checkout the recipe thread.

Don't forget to measure your belly...I wish I had, cause I lost tons there. Still plenty more to lose though.

[CurveControl]

cool! thanks guys! I am so excited I have even weighed in thanksgiving. It isn't a big deal here and with DH on LC I wont be having a lot of temptation in the way of breads or sugar.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by CurveControl

HI! Hopng my dropd come today.

What is LDW? (last day weight?)

I have been 'loading' since I ordered the dang drops. way more than 3 days. More like a week (tomorrow is a week):blush: so am I good to go when they come? There is only one thing I realy really want and since DH is on LC I will have to do it for lunch one day, probably the day my drops come so I can start right away.

can you guys on P2VLCD most more daily menus? I am still trying to get a feel for stuff I can have.

Thanks!!
I am thinking I will measure my bust, waist and hips is all, because I usually use my clothes to judge my shape changing. Sadly the sweat pants and Tshirts I have been mostly reduced to don't help me judge well LOL.

P2 menus can be found here:

P2 menus--week of Oct 24

and here:

P2's What's on your menu for today?

[Stevie Renee]

Thanks ya'll.

Reading about the strawberries is sad! They have been such a gift during p2. My mom has really small, sour oranges on her tree that I actually like.lol- so I may go pick her tree. I too wont spend a fortune on some measly ol' strawberries.

[Stevie Renee]

Molly's here!!! Yeah! Be prepared to see a new you

[KOO]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

P2 menus can be found here:

P2 menus--week of Oct 24

and here:

P2's What's on your menu for today?

And if you put your menu from the day before, you can put on the bottom what the change in the scale was. That way you can look back at a glance and see what you had bigger losses eating. Some people say they do better with chicken, while others do better with beef. M ate mostly beef, steaks, groundbeef, P2 chili, and veal; with chicken just a couple of times.