HCG Non Simeons week of Nov. 8, 2010

[Fly Girl]

Hey guys, newbie on her first load day. Ive noticed a side effect that hasn't been mentioned that Ive seen. My hunger is way down (makes it harder to load but yay!) but my thirst is also way down. I drink a lot of water naturally cause I just like the taste, but so far today I have had half a glass in the time I would normally drink 2-3. Has anyone else had this happen?

[Gweebles]

[QUOTE=Barbara690;14071149]I'm insulin resistant and then a few years ago I really messed myself up by doing kimkins(hair falling out,metabolism is shot),[QUOTE]

She got lots of us, myself included. Dont lose hope, your body can heal from her damage.

[Gweebles]

Originally Posted by Allykat1

12.5 in 8 days isn't shabby at all! By the way, what are pickle pops

Pickle pops are basically frozen pickle juice. They look like otter pops or pop ice, those little tubes. I am a pickle freak and found these at Walgreens...love them!

[Jenmay78]

Wow! What a busy thread. I am so happy to see all of the new faces here. Today was a higher calorie day. I was hungry today. The thing that seems to really help me in my rogue plan are:
1. Eat nothing after 7pm...okay to drink, just no food.
2. If I feel snacky; I chew sugar free gum or have a cup of coffee w/creamer
3. 6 small meals a day works miracles
4. Set mini goals
5. If I do indulge; I indulge for one meal...not the entire day
6. I eat my fruit 5 out of 7 days
7. I eat my veggies and mix them

[Kiley2801]

You guys are all doing so great. I am back for another round!

I was on Phase 3 for 3 weeks, and did 1 week of phase 4. I'm bouncing around 5 lbs from my last LDW, and I am getting impatient. I don't WANNA wait another 2 weeks to start phase 2. *insert ranty-pouty smilie here* So... 3 weeks of Ph 4 be dam*ed! lol

I ordered drops from Yavonae (sp?). They have arrived. Let the loading begin! I'm gonna load mostly low-carb this time though. And I'm just gonna load for 1 day.

I'm THINKING of doing the 500(ish) cal plan for 1 week, then changing over to that calorie-switching plan that somebody posted a while back. But now I read about you guys just eating a regular diet, dosing and still losing weight and I'm torn. HMMMM... decision!

[PaisleyMae]

Hey Ladies! I am so excited to have found your thread! I went rogue about half way through my first round and never turned back! I am on VLCD2 of my R3P2 and am excited to get the experimenting under way. I am a little nervous that it may not work because I inject and most of you seem to use the drops, but I guess we'll see! My plan is to stick to 500 cals 4 days a week, and then 3 days a week I will do my normal exercise (because I don't want to give it up) and have about 1200 calories. I usually burn at least 500 calories when I exercise. So I guess I am trying to incorporate exercise and calorie confusion to P2. I have not done the fruit or melba since the beginning of R1 because I am insulin resistant, but am planning to try fruit before working out. Any suggestions/thoughts/ideas about my plan? I would love any input any of you BIG LOSERS have!!! Glad to be here with you all!!! Oh, btw, I am planning for this to be about a 5 week round with a one-day interruption for Thanksgiving.

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by PaisleyMae

Hey Ladies! I am so excited to have found your thread! I went rogue about half way through my first round and never turned back! I am on VLCD2 of my R3P2 and am excited to get the experimenting under way. I am a little nervous that it may not work because I inject and most of you seem to use the drops, but I guess we'll see! My plan is to stick to 500 cals 4 days a week, and then 3 days a week I will do my normal exercise (because I don't want to give it up) and have about 1200 calories. I usually burn at least 500 calories when I exercise. So I guess I am trying to incorporate exercise and calorie confusion to P2. I have not done the fruit or melba since the beginning of R1 because I am insulin resistant, but am planning to try fruit before working out. Any suggestions/thoughts/ideas about my plan? I would love any input any of you BIG LOSERS have!!! Glad to be here with you all!!! Oh, btw, I am planning for this to be about a 5 week round with a one-day interruption for Thanksgiving.

So glad to have you with us. I love your plan and look forward to your results. This is a very hard time to start, and you're doing a 5 week round? The only suggestion I had is that you try to have some protein with your fruit. I hear ya' on the exercise, I've actually missed it (been 2 months since I did my Zumba class!) and have toyed with adding it back in during P3. We'll see. I try to walk or bike, lower intensity, but really need/want to get back to lifting weights. Please come post often. We rogues are a friendly lot!

Originally Posted by Kiley2801

You guys are all doing so great. I am back for another round!

I was on Phase 3 for 3 weeks, and did 1 week of phase 4. I'm bouncing around 5 lbs from my last LDW, and I am getting impatient. I don't WANNA wait another 2 weeks to start phase 2. *insert ranty-pouty smilie here* So... 3 weeks of Ph 4 be dam*ed! lol

I ordered drops from Yavonae (sp?). They have arrived. Let the loading begin! I'm gonna load mostly low-carb this time though. And I'm just gonna load for 1 day.

I'm THINKING of doing the 500(ish) cal plan for 1 week, then changing over to that calorie-switching plan that somebody posted a while back. But now I read about you guys just eating a regular diet, dosing and still losing weight and I'm torn. HMMMM... decision!

You're gonna' fit right in! I debate it all too! I lose VERY slowly and did a week at about 1200-1500cals, LC, while dosing and gained 2lbs. So, I know for ME I need lower cals to actually lose. But, I'm metabolically resistant, hormonally imbalanced etc. But, losing slowly is still losing and I'm thrilled with my experiment. Come post often so we can cheer you on and learn from you too!

Originally Posted by Fly Girl

Hey guys, newbie on her first load day. Ive noticed a side effect that hasn't been mentioned that Ive seen. My hunger is way down (makes it harder to load but yay!) but my thirst is also way down. I drink a lot of water naturally cause I just like the taste, but so far today I have had half a glass in the time I would normally drink 2-3. Has anyone else had this happen?

I actually started the strict protocol and was SO hungry I learned to drink more fluids to compensate. Now that the hunger is gone ( LC!) I still try for a lot of water. Many think it helps the losses. I'm sure it's a YMMV thing. Do what you think is best, maybe experiment with it a few days and see how it goes.

I'm getting ready for bed. On call for work, which inevitably means a call at 3am that I can't really help anyway. So, hoping for a loss tomorrow, even though I won't likely have a good night's sleep. I had about 500 cals today, VLCarb, protein shake for dinner, 2-3cups coffee w/ cream, 1.5 chicken thighs. That's it. Any NORMAL person would see a big loss, but I'm hoping for 0.5lbs. We'll see in the morning. Nitey-nite!

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by Jenmay78

Wow! What a busy thread. I am so happy to see all of the new faces here. Today was a higher calorie day. I was hungry today. The thing that seems to really help me in my rogue plan are:
1. Eat nothing after 7pm...okay to drink, just no food.
2. If I feel snacky; I chew sugar free gum or have a cup of coffee w/creamer
3. 6 small meals a day works miracles
4. Set mini goals
5. If I do indulge; I indulge for one meal...not the entire day
6. I eat my fruit 5 out of 7 days
7. I eat my veggies and mix them

Wonderful plan Jen!!... I like how you gave yourself some guidelines!!

Originally Posted by Kiley2801

You guys are all doing so great. I am back for another round!

I was on Phase 3 for 3 weeks, and did 1 week of phase 4. I'm bouncing around 5 lbs from my last LDW, and I am getting impatient. I don't WANNA wait another 2 weeks to start phase 2. *insert ranty-pouty smilie here* So... 3 weeks of Ph 4 be dam*ed! lol

I ordered drops from Yavonae (sp?). They have arrived. Let the loading begin! I'm gonna load mostly low-carb this time though. And I'm just gonna load for 1 day.

I'm THINKING of doing the 500(ish) cal plan for 1 week, then changing over to that calorie-switching plan that somebody posted a while back. But now I read about you guys just eating a regular diet, dosing and still losing weight and I'm torn. HMMMM... decision!

Hi Kiley! Love your new avi!... so cute!.. Well, the decision is of course YOURS, but you can always do what you have planned at first, the 500 a week then cal switching. If that does not work well for you, then you can always switch it up!! This is how we are doing, experimenting! Good luck!!

Originally Posted by PaisleyMae

Hey Ladies! I am so excited to have found your thread! I went rogue about half way through my first round and never turned back! I am on VLCD2 of my R3P2 and am excited to get the experimenting under way. I am a little nervous that it may not work because I inject and most of you seem to use the drops, but I guess we'll see! My plan is to stick to 500 cals 4 days a week, and then 3 days a week I will do my normal exercise (because I don't want to give it up) and have about 1200 calories. I usually burn at least 500 calories when I exercise. So I guess I am trying to incorporate exercise and calorie confusion to P2. I have not done the fruit or melba since the beginning of R1 because I am insulin resistant, but am planning to try fruit before working out. Any suggestions/thoughts/ideas about my plan? I would love any input any of you BIG LOSERS have!!! Glad to be here with you all!!! Oh, btw, I am planning for this to be about a 5 week round with a one-day interruption for Thanksgiving.

YEAH, so glad to have the video queen here!!.. I think we have all followed you! Such a wonderful transformation you are having... I love your plan ideas! This way you can still exercise while eating more on those days.. sounds great! Welcome Welcome!!!

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

I'm getting ready for bed. On call for work, which inevitably means a call at 3am that I can't really help anyway. So, hoping for a loss tomorrow, even though I won't likely have a good night's sleep. I had about 500 cals today, VLCarb, protein shake for dinner, 2-3cups coffee w/ cream, 1.5 chicken thighs. That's it. Any NORMAL person would see a big loss, but I'm hoping for 0.5lbs. We'll see in the morning. Nitey-nite!

Julie thank goodness you are here with such great advice!!.. LOVE IT!!!... on call for work?... 3am?... YIKES!!!! I hope you have a nice loss hon, you DESERVE IT!!!... that is not much food, were you hungry at all? Impressive!

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by Gweebles

Pickle pops are basically frozen pickle juice. They look like otter pops or pop ice, those little tubes. I am a pickle freak and found these at Walgreens...love them!

.. oh my goodness.. never heard of this!!..

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by Fly Girl

Hey guys, newbie on her first load day. Ive noticed a side effect that hasn't been mentioned that Ive seen. My hunger is way down (makes it harder to load but yay!) but my thirst is also way down. I drink a lot of water naturally cause I just like the taste, but so far today I have had half a glass in the time I would normally drink 2-3. Has anyone else had this happen?

WELCOME!! Glad to have you here!! Love that your hunger is down, isn't that awesome? I never had the thirst go down myself, but I am a big water drinker and didn't notice a difference. I also drink water all the time just out of habit, thirst or not... I'd say make sure you DO drink lots of water though, you need it when you lose weight quickly.. happy losing to you!!! Please post a lot and let us know how you are doing!

[tempted_by_food]

PaisleyMae, Kiley and Fly Girl...best of luck on your new rouge round

I ate quite a bit of junk yesterday and the scale showed a .8 loss this morning, I do not understand it but I will take it

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by tempted_by_food

PaisleyMae, Kiley and Fly Girl...best of luck on your new rouge round

I ate quite a bit of junk yesterday and the scale showed a .8 loss this morning, I do not understand it but I will take it

AND A BIG WHOOOO HOOOO TO YOU!!..... off to work, be back later!!...

[tempted_by_food]

Deb...lol see you in a bit, I am off to make me some snakes

[SweetPoison2]

Okay! Thanks for the link, Deb! I thought this was the thread but wasn't sure. So I am about to order my drops.

I started my DASH plan yesterday. I have a head cold from hell though, right now.

Does anyone know if the Infusion has the $30 discount? I'm thinkin it is the Platinum.

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by tempted_by_food

Deb...lol see you in a bit, I am off to make me some snakes

HAHA.. sounds funny...

Originally Posted by SweetPoison2

Okay! Thanks for the link, Deb! I thought this was the thread but wasn't sure. So I am about to order my drops.

I started my DASH plan yesterday. I have a head cold from hell though, right now.

Does anyone know if the Infusion has the $30 discount? I'm thinkin it is the Platinum.

Welcome!!! glad you found us!..

Sorry about your cold, get better real soon!!.. do you like the DASH plan so far? I THINK the discount is for the Platinum if I am thinking correctly... it says in the sticky thread I believe... good luck and please keep on posting!!

Here at work.... Don't worry, I work for my sister.... she is understanding... I do my work and the work of many others.. so I don't worry about a posting now and then.. it's when I spend a half hour straight on here that I start to think I BETTER WORK!...

Lost a pound last night... not sure WHY.. I am exercising every day for 30 days to make it a habit.. The only bad thing is that is on the ELIPTICAL... and that is a torture chamber for me... but I promised my dear friend I would do it, and so I am!!.. I add one minute each day, so today I have to do 17 minutes when I get home... ]

Yesterday was LOW CARB... with drops.. of course..

2 chicken thighs
Coffee with cream
Chicken/cabbage soup
jello
low carb chocolate mousse.....
about 6 oz of ribeye...

Seems like a lot of food, did not put it in ****** though.. so I think just cuz it was low carb.. I lost... I'll take it!!..

HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY EVERYONE!!.. I'll check back later...

[stacey5267]

Morning all. Can't explain why I am up .3 on day 10?? Too much salt? I had a low carb low cal day yesterday and TOM is not coming. Ideas?

When this happens I start to tell myself that it isn't worth it. Why work so hard for no results? Which is usually when I quit. But today I am trying to talk myself out of it. I lost 7 pounds in 8 days. That is great! But the scale better start moving in the right direction soon!!!

Hope everyone else had a good loss last night.

Stacey

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by stacey5267

Morning all. Can't explain why I am up .3 on day 10?? Too much salt? I had a low carb low cal day yesterday and TOM is not coming. Ideas?

When this happens I start to tell myself that it isn't worth it. Why work so hard for no results? Which is usually when I quit. But today I am trying to talk myself out of it. I lost 7 pounds in 8 days. That is great! But the scale better start moving in the right direction soon!!!

Hope everyone else had a good loss last night.

Stacey

Temporary water... don't fret!.. happens all the time to all of us!... YOU HAVE DONE WONDERFUL!! don't you dare give up missy OR I will hunt you down.....

[wovenwonder]

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

YEAH, so glad to have the video queen here!!.. I think we have all followed you! Such a wonderful transformation you are having... I love your plan ideas! This way you can still exercise while eating more on those days.. sounds great! Welcome Welcome!!!

video? Link? I need all of the inspiration I can get!

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by wovenwonder

video? Link? I need all of the inspiration I can get!

This is her personal journey..YouTube - leanamusica's Channel

Since it is in her signature, I hope it is ok to post it.

[Selahgal]

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

.. oh my goodness.. never heard of this!!..

Me either ... and as much as I love pickles of all kinds ... this sounds yucky!!!

[salaunsox2000]

Down 0.9 pounds today. Not what I was hoping for but I'll take it. That brings my total to 5.3 pounds on Day 5. Not too shabby. Now if I could only stick to this pattern, I'll be looking pretty good for the holidays. I noticed yesterday that I have been weighing my proteins AFTER I cook them. What was I thinking? So, I will not do that again and for the next few days I am going to stay off the fruit. Not sure if the carbs are holding me back. Carbs are definitely my enemy. They stick to me like glue. I've done very well with Atkins before so hopefully cutting out the fruit will give me a little edge on more loss. We'll see.
Having this board to get different ideas and suggestions is so wonderful. Thanks to everyone who posts.

[Selahgal]

Originally Posted by stacey5267

Morning all. Can't explain why I am up .3 on day 10?? Too much salt? I had a low carb low cal day yesterday and TOM is not coming. Ideas?

When this happens I start to tell myself that it isn't worth it. Why work so hard for no results? Which is usually when I quit. But today I am trying to talk myself out of it. I lost 7 pounds in 8 days. That is great! But the scale better start moving in the right direction soon!!!

Hope everyone else had a good loss last night.

Stacey

Wow, Stacey, I get crazy enough with MY scale that only measures in half pounds!! I don't know how ya'll watch the tenths of a pound!!!

Our bodies natural vary in weight, even in pounds, through the day and through the weeks for many, many reasons. Our bodies just want to get and stay in balance or homeostasis. Don't let such small variations get you upset, sweetie, just keep doing what you know in your heart you need to do for you. It will work out and it will be fine and you'll do great! Honest!

[stacey5267]

Thanks Deb and Marci. Really appreciate the support. Logically, I know it is only .3 pounds, but all the scale watching gets me a little crazy at times.

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by salaunsox2000

Down 0.9 pounds today. Not what I was hoping for but I'll take it. That brings my total to 5.3 pounds on Day 5. Not too shabby. Now if I could only stick to this pattern, I'll be looking pretty good for the holidays. I noticed yesterday that I have been weighing my proteins AFTER I cook them. What was I thinking? So, I will not do that again and for the next few days I am going to stay off the fruit. Not sure if the carbs are holding me back. Carbs are definitely my enemy. They stick to me like glue. I've done very well with Atkins before so hopefully cutting out the fruit will give me a little edge on more loss. We'll see.
Having this board to get different ideas and suggestions is so wonderful. Thanks to everyone who posts.

That is a great loss girl!! You are doing fine!! Good luck with your experiment though!!.. let us know how it goes

Originally Posted by Selahgal

Wow, Stacey, I get crazy enough with MY scale that only measures in half pounds!! I don't know how ya'll watch the tenths of a pound!!!

Our bodies natural vary in weight, even in pounds, through the day and through the weeks for many, many reasons. Our bodies just want to get and stay in balance or homeostasis. Don't let such small variations get you upset, sweetie, just keep doing what you know in your heart you need to do for you. It will work out and it will be fine and you'll do great! Honest!

EXCELLENT ADVICE --- as always!!

Originally Posted by stacey5267

Thanks Deb and Marci. Really appreciate the support. Logically, I know it is only .3 pounds, but all the scale watching gets me a little crazy at times.

We all do that at times.... Hang in there!!!...

[Selahgal]

Originally Posted by stacey5267

Thanks Deb and Marci. Really appreciate the support. Logically, I know it is only .3 pounds, but all the scale watching gets me a little crazy at times.

Makes me crazy all the times!!!!

[donnakd]

Hello all....just a quick update. 198.6 this morning, down 1 lb. I'll take it. Had 27 ww points yesterday...hubby came in and wanted to take me to look at the cotton(he is a farmer), and to lunch....had a hamburger and french fries. Ate every bite. Also had breakfast yesterday....bowl of oatmeal with a half scoop of vanilla protein powder. And made turkey taco soup for supper(yummy, one of my fav ww recipes). So 1 lbs is great to me!

[Terilynn]

Good morning everyone!
I don't know what the deal is, but the very same weight 3 days in a row.....VERY SAME. 190.6! I don't get it - you would think you would see at least a tenth of a pound fluctuation. Obviously what I am doing now is not the ticket and I would hate to think that I have to do what I am doing now to maintain. Time to shake it up a bit, just don't know if my head is in it to do a "real" P2. Low carb with the JUICE doesn't seem to work. I guess I could keep doing it for a week or so to see what happens though. I got nothing but time.

Never heard of the frozen pickle juice either..... I used to drink pickle juice. Interesting concept.

Have no idea about food today.

You all rock on!

[pmartin6618]

Good morning all... I'm down another one pound today bringing my total loss in 9-days to a whoping 15.2 lbs.

Today I'm a little anxious and wanting P2 to be over... but I'm going to stick it out... I'm just going to mix up my menu a little and see if that helps my mood... the 2nd week is always so hard for me... hoping 3rd week I feel better.....

Hoping everyone has some good losses today.

[Allykat1]

Not to sway anyone from their current experiment however wanted to share this article I read this morning on how this person lost weight on this extremely non-conventional diet. Enjoy!


BY Meena Hartenstein
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Tuesday, November 9th 2010, 5:03 PM

Boyle/GettyProfessor Haub ate Hostess Twinkies and
other junk food to shed pounds.

Want to lose weight without giving up junk food?

It may sound too good to be true, but nutrition
professor Mark Haub proved you can have your
cake and eat it too - by putting himself on a "Snack
Cake Diet" and losing 27 pounds in 2 months.

Haub, who teaches at Kansas State University, set
out to prove that losing weight is simple: it's all
about how much you eat, not what you eat.

In other words, you can eat whatever you want, but
you have to cut calories.

He tested the theory on himself, trimming his calorie
intake from 2600 calories per day to 1800, and
eating meals consisting of food typically found in
vending machines.

According to his food diary, in an average day he
would eat Duncan Hines brownies, Hostess
Twinkies, Cool Ranch Doritos chips, Little Debbie
cakes and Kellogg's corn pops.

Haub started the diet on Aug. 25 as an experiment
for his students, weighing in at 210 pounds with an
“overweight” body mass index (BMI) of 28.8.

He kept track of the results on his Facebook page
"Prof Haub's Diet Experiments."

After two months of eating the "unhealthy food," his
weight dropped to 174 pounds, and his BMI is now
a healthy 24.9.

Surprisingly, in addition to his weight loss, his diet
seems to have improved his other health stats.

In the latest results posted to his Facebook page on
Nov. 5, Haub says his "bad" cholesterol, or LDL,
dropped 30 points from 153 to 123, while his
"good" cholesterol, or HDL, went up from 37 to 46
points. His triglyceride level, another measure of fat,
dropped 39 percent.

"That's where the headscratching comes," Haub told
CNN. "What does that mean? Does that mean I'm
healthier? Or does it mean how we define health
from a biology standpoint, that we're missing
something?"

Haub says the majority of his meals consisted of
junk food. He did not drink much soda, drank a
protein shake every day, and took a multivitamin
daily.

He also ate vegetables, often a can of green beans,
to be a good example to his kids, CNN reports. He
didn't do any special exercise regimen as part of the
diet, sticking to the moderate activity he was
accustomed to before he began the experiment.

Dietitian Dawn Jackson Blatner says it’s not
surprising Haub saw health benefits in conjunction
with his weight loss, even though he was eating
heavily processed snack foods.

"When you lose weight, regardless of how you're
doing it -- even if it's with packaged foods,
generally you will see these markers improve when
weight loss has improved," Blatner told CNN.
However she warned against the idea that it would
be a good idea to stick to the plan in the long term.
"There are things we can't measure...How much does

[a lack of fresh fruit and vegetables] affect the risk
for cancer? We can't measure how diet changes
affect our health."

Though he has seen the results on his own body,
even Haub isn’t recommending that overweight
Americans run out and try his plan.

"I'm not geared to say this is a good thing to do," he
told CNN. "I'm stuck in the middle. I guess that's the
frustrating part. I can't give a concrete answer.
There's not enough information to do that."

He does, however, offer a warning to dieters who
think they are eating healthy foods but have
struggled to lose weight.

"There seems to be a disconnect between eating
healthy and being healthy," Haub said. "It may not
be the same. I was eating healthier [before the diet]
but I wasn't healthy. I was eating too much."

Lose weight by eating junk food: Nutrition professor drops 27 pounds on 'Twinkie Diet' in two months