HCG Non Simeon's Week of Oct/25/2010

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by Selahgal

Yeah I can, but like you, I'm getting so tiny now I may BLOW AWAY TODAY!!!! DANG IT IS WINDY AND we're under a tornado watch RIGHT NOW!!! OY VAY!!!

Marci, you may NOT need to cycle yet.... Just do what is working and make adjustments as needed I would guess... so far so good! Congrats on that loss!!

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by 12yrslater

Morning Rebels!

PHEW! What a morning! I had to hold my 5 year old 40 lb DD extremely hard so the wind wouldn't blow her away! Boy is it BAD OUT THERE TODAY!!!!

So I didn't weigh and don't plan on it til the end of the week. I'm afraid what I will see :blush: Yesterday I ate as planned (my plan)....It was low low carb. I think the only carbs I had were from the BBQ sauce on the ribs but even then, it wasn't much cuz I dabbed most of it off

SMART GAL Those ribs sound yummy... I love me some ribs!!!... Hang on to the kid Pati, its bad here too!!....

[12yrslater]

Originally Posted by paulabob

I found a recipe here on the Simeon's recipes sticky. I just modified it to use lettuce to wrap instead of cabbage, and used beef instead of chicken. I also used fish sauce and soy sauce -too much sodium- and a dash of sesame oil. Plus a lot of red pepper flakes...I love everything spicy! There are a LOT of great ideas in that recipe sticky, and I always try to make 2 or 3 portions at a time.

I am so not doing chicken this round...I am over dried out fatless chicken! Have always been a dark meat fan anyways.

Here's the original recipe:
Balsamic Chicken Wraps
3.5 ounces chicken
2 med green cabbage leaf
2 med Napa cabbage leaf
1 garlic clove
3 T. balsamic vinegar
1⁄4 t onion powder
1⁄4 T. sea salt
1⁄4 T. pepper
1 T. fresh ginger
Mix together finely grated ginger, garlic, onion powder, balsamic vinegar, salt, pepper and chicken pieces. Cook until chicken is cooked thoroughly and then add the Napa cabbage and cook until cabbage is slightly cooked. Take the 2 green cabbage leaf and split the chicken mixture and place in cabbage leaf’s and roll into a wrap.

Thank you thank you! I now have what to eat for dinner!

[12yrslater]

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

SMART GAL Those ribs sound yummy... I love me some ribs!!!... Hang on to the kid Pati, its bad here too!!....

You too? You better stay safe lady!

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by paulabob

GRUMPY! UP 1 pound today.

I normally don't have TOM gains 2 days in a row...but that has to be what it is. So I'm up 1.4 total from two days ago.

I guess I shouldn't have used so much soy sauce in yesterday's supper either. I was thirsty all last night and woke up 3 times to pee.

Oh well, I'm sure I'll have something positive to say tomorrow! And my supper was super delicious.

I am in the same boat. TOM is here and better be responsible for my gain!! I'm at 163.8 today (I was all the way down to 162.2 on Fri). We'll see if I can get it to go. I'm going to lower my cals today, even though I'm supposed to be on a P3 break.

Originally Posted by Selahgal

OK, it's not that easy doing low cal AND low carb! Yipes. I mean, I cannot eat MORE veggies because I will get more CARBS and I can't eat MORE protein because it'll mean more CALORIES! Not sure if ****** is accurate but it says I ate close to 1,000 calories and 20 carbs today ... good with the carbs, horrid with the calories as this was supposed to be a LOW CAL DAY! Sheesh. I have felt hungry all day and it seems like I haven't eaten hardly anything! Come on, juice, KICK IN!!!

Deb and others who are trying it this way, what ARE you eating on days you're trying low cal AND low carb? Is it basically the original Dr. S plan but without the fruit and bread/crackers? Holy cow, the original plan is torture enough WITH the fruit, I can't imagine trying it even more strict! BLEH!

I need to decide if I should up the carbs a notch or two instead of doing the Atkins Induction 20 carbs a day limit. I don't think I can do both low cal and low carb in the same day. It might be better to just do low carb and the juice and call it ok IF that turns out to be something that'll show steady losses, which remains to be seen! OR I could not worry about the carbs on the low cal days. Guess there are many ways to swing this thing!

Petchie, how are you doing this? Details! I need details! HELP!

The thing that helps me most is not being hungry. I have coffee w/ cream first thing in the morning, which curbs my hunger. Then water for a while. I dose around 9:30-10. Then half an hour later I have another cup of coffee/cream which gets me to lunch around noon. I have a P2 like lunch, chicken or GB/chili or whatever, although about 130g of protein. Then I drink loads of water and iced tea until dinner. If I'm totally hungry mid afternoon I have a protein shake w/ almond milk and LC protein powder. Surprisingly good and only about 180cal. Also ups my protein. Then a P2ish dinner, a bit higher in fat (like a burger, or roast beef, or dark meat chicken w/ skin). I'm not doing many veggies right now, and not very hungry. I'm usually in the 600-800cal range on my "low" days.

I have been messing around too much w/ recipes. I love the Fall and made the Wendysmiling pumkin cheesecake (more like a mousse) and the egg custard2. I only have a bit here and there, but I know I need to stop it and wait until I'm safely in the 150's to try again. Sigh. It's nice to know those recipes are out there, but I need to clean it up!!

[Joyful111]

I want to thank everyone for the warm welcome on last week’s thread. On Saturday I began my rogue experiment. I loaded for two days and yesterday was my first low calorie day. Today the scale said that I had lost all of my load weight plus .2 lbs. (-4.4lbs) I will happily take that. I didn’t count calories but I think I was somewhere in the 600-700 range.

My intention is to do this as a vegetarian. I am always gluten free so no melba for me. I am using vega meal replacement powder and Now Whey protein. I also plan to have eggs and maybe some quorn. Quorn comes in two gluten free versions, but I haven’t tried it yet to know if it is at all palatable. Mostly I am kind of making it up as I go along.

The vega while perhaps not the most savory of taste experiences is low calorie (240) lowish fat (6g) and has a net carb count of 7 plus gives me the RDA of everything I need so I think it is a good solution. I know that Dr. Simeon’s says not to worry about vitamins that you get all you need from your releasing fat, but in my experience for my body that is not true. I mixed it with almond milk and down it went. My hope is that it is going to prevent me from experience the extreme fatigue I felt with protocol in the past.

Yesterday amongst other things I had cream in my coffee and a delicious salad of mixed veggies. I think only a fellow Simeon’s escapee can possibly understand just how decadent and delicious that salad was!

I am going to take it day by day and try not to stress about it. I think the extreme stress of trying to follow protocol perfectly for fear of somehow gaining 20lbs by accidently ingesting, touching or inhaling any stray fat molecules is very counterproductive. This time I am joining all of you and relaxing about it.

Thank you all so much for coming forward and sharing your stories.

[susique333]

This is a drive by, too busy to jabber but wanted to say I went to coffee this a.m., pulled on my snug jeans that I havent wore since 2 weeks ago....and theyre SERIOUSLY sagging in the butt area!?! Hubby laughed when he saw them!

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by Joyful111

I want to thank everyone for the warm welcome on last week’s thread. On Saturday I began my rogue experiment. I loaded for two days and yesterday was my first low calorie day. Today the scale said that I had lost all of my load weight plus .2 lbs. (-4.4lbs) I will happily take that. I didn’t count calories but I think I was somewhere in the 600-700 range.

My intention is to do this as a vegetarian. I am always gluten free so no melba for me. I am using vega meal replacement powder and Now Whey protein. I also plan to have eggs and maybe some quorn. Quorn comes in two gluten free versions, but I haven’t tried it yet to know if it is at all palatable. Mostly I am kind of making it up as I go along.

The vega while perhaps not the most savory of taste experiences is low calorie (240) lowish fat (6g) and has a net carb count of 7 plus gives me the RDA of everything I need so I think it is a good solution. I know that Dr. Simeon’s says not to worry about vitamins that you get all you need from your releasing fat, but in my experience for my body that is not true. I mixed it with almond milk and down it went. My hope is that it is going to prevent me from experience the extreme fatigue I felt with protocol in the past.

Yesterday amongst other things I had cream in my coffee and a delicious salad of mixed veggies. I think only a fellow Simeon’s escapee can possibly understand just how decadent and delicious that salad was!

I am going to take it day by day and try not to stress about it. I think the extreme stress of trying to follow protocol perfectly for fear of somehow gaining 20lbs by accidently ingesting, touching or inhaling any stray fat molecules is very counterproductive. This time I am joining all of you and relaxing about it.

Thank you all so much for coming forward and sharing your stories.

Very nice post!! I am so happy it is working for you!! I can relate completely to being afraid of gaining immediately and when I did not, I was overjoyed!

Excellent first day loss! Keep up your great work!! and keep on posting! You are helping someone today!

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by susique333

This is a drive by, too busy to jabber but wanted to say I went to coffee this a.m., pulled on my snug jeans that I havent wore since 2 weeks ago....and theyre SERIOUSLY sagging in the butt area!?! Hubby laughed when he saw them!

OH SUSAN!! hilarious!!..... congrats!!!...

[BlueMonday]

Originally Posted by Selahgal

OK, it's not that easy doing low cal AND low carb! Yipes. I mean, I cannot eat MORE veggies because I will get more CARBS and I can't eat MORE protein because it'll mean more CALORIES! Not sure if ****** is accurate but it says I ate close to 1,000 calories and 20 carbs today ... good with the carbs, horrid with the calories as this was supposed to be a LOW CAL DAY! Sheesh. I have felt hungry all day and it seems like I haven't eaten hardly anything! Come on, juice, KICK IN!!!

Deb and others who are trying it this way, what ARE you eating on days you're trying low cal AND low carb? Is it basically the original Dr. S plan but without the fruit and bread/crackers? Holy cow, the original plan is torture enough WITH the fruit, I can't imagine trying it even more strict! BLEH!

I need to decide if I should up the carbs a notch or two instead of doing the Atkins Induction 20 carbs a day limit. I don't think I can do both low cal and low carb in the same day. It might be better to just do low carb and the juice and call it ok IF that turns out to be something that'll show steady losses, which remains to be seen! OR I could not worry about the carbs on the low cal days. Guess there are many ways to swing this thing!

Petchie, how are you doing this? Details! I need details! HELP!

Well, it is tough but doable for me. Basically, I am taking away the fruit and grisini and substituting those calories w/ calories from fat. For example, an apple and a grisini/melba together is roughly 100 calories. I replace that w/ 100 cals worth of mayo (sometimes I add some mustard to make a sauce out of it) and then I'll dip my chicken pieces or shrimp in that. Very low carb and the same number of calories. Plus the fat keeps me feeling fuller longer and I also find that I have more energy. The deep ketosis also adds a second layer of hunger control.

A low-cal day for me is 500-700 cals. I do that for 2 or 3 days and then have an "Atkins induction" type day where I don't monitor calories too closely and add some veggies and more fats, including cheese if I want. I probably end up in the 1100-1300 calorie range those days, but still very low carb.

Upping the protein in exchange for the fruit and grisini doesn't work as well for me and I end up feeling low-energy and sort of weak. The fat really helps!! But you have to be careful on the amount because the calories add up quickly w/ the fat.

One thing I find that works great for me is eggs. Each egg is around 90 cals and I find that 3 eggs really fills me up and keeps me full all day. So today I am having 3 hard boiled eggs for lunch, which is 270 cals. That gives me 300-350 cals to play with at dinner, which will probably be some kind of meat or chicken w/ some fat on it.

[Rachelocity]

Yay Susan (or should I call you Ms. Droopy Drawers?)

I am on Day 2 of The Real Program, and it was very interesting yesterday that I felt very much in touch with my degree of fullness, which is something I am not usually attuned to. One extra bite of food was enough to make me stuffed! I had to work hard to get in my minimum level of Points, and the idea of a midnight snack (my former habit!) was unthinkable. Today is the same, except that I have added exercise, and should usually feel hungrier. But I'm more thirsty than hungry. Lots to learn.....

In other news, one-size-fits-all pantyhose now fit me!!!!! Buh bye Queen-Sized!

[Deb294evr]

BlueMonday.. good stuff you have there!! thank you for the information. I know when I start back on the losing path, I want to go mostly low carb/cal.

Violet Skye... congrats on no more QUEENIES!!... fantastic.. I can't wait to be out of the X's ....on anything!!... Love how you are in touch with your hunger levels...

[12yrslater]

Originally Posted by susique333

This is a drive by, too busy to jabber but wanted to say I went to coffee this a.m., pulled on my snug jeans that I havent wore since 2 weeks ago....and theyre SERIOUSLY sagging in the butt area!?! Hubby laughed when he saw them!

Time to go jean shopping!!!

[BlueMonday]

Originally Posted by susique333

This is a drive by, too busy to jabber but wanted to say I went to coffee this a.m., pulled on my snug jeans that I havent wore since 2 weeks ago....and theyre SERIOUSLY sagging in the butt area!?! Hubby laughed when he saw them!

OMG -- hysterical!!

This was me last Friday. Pulled out a pair of dress pants that I haven't worn in years thinking that they ought to fit now -- they were already too big!!

Ended up wearing them anyway, but felt like I had "droopy drawers" all night.

[Selahgal]

Originally Posted by BlueMonday

Well, it is tough but doable for me. Basically, I am taking away the fruit and grisini and substituting those calories w/ calories from fat. For example, an apple and a grisini/melba together is roughly 100 calories. I replace that w/ 100 cals worth of mayo (sometimes I add some mustard to make a sauce out of it) and then I'll dip my chicken pieces or shrimp in that. Very low carb and the same number of calories. Plus the fat keeps me feeling fuller longer and I also find that I have more energy. The deep ketosis also adds a second layer of hunger control.

A low-cal day for me is 500-700 cals. I do that for 2 or 3 days and then have an "Atkins induction" type day where I don't monitor calories too closely and add some veggies and more fats, including cheese if I want. I probably end up in the 1100-1300 calorie range those days, but still very low carb.

Upping the protein in exchange for the fruit and grisini doesn't work as well for me and I end up feeling low-energy and sort of weak. The fat really helps!! But you have to be careful on the amount because the calories add up quickly w/ the fat.

One thing I find that works great for me is eggs. Each egg is around 90 cals and I find that 3 eggs really fills me up and keeps me full all day. So today I am having 3 hard boiled eggs for lunch, which is 270 cals. That gives me 300-350 cals to play with at dinner, which will probably be some kind of meat or chicken w/ some fat on it.

Yes, it's a real balancing act for sure. I felt weak and hungry yesterday but ok so far today. Keeping my water intake high too. I might try more fat now and again just to see how it goes. No idea how more fat works when also on the juice. Would I still be burning fat via the juice if I ate more fat? I dunno. Chicken and eggs are my mainstay too. I have a spicy mayo dip I make with cottage cheese and coconut oil and mustard and a few other things that is AMAZING. It can be used as a dip, a dressing, a sauce or spread! If I was only doing low carb off the juice, my fat intake would be a lot more for sure. I need to check my ketosis level again soon! Should be kicked in by now.

[nitenurse]

Well, thanks for all the information/help. Starting again, this time with really lowcarb. Which I think will be this-on lower calorie days,coffee with cream AM, protein shake at noon, 4PM.protein-today will be a pork chop, fat removed. Calories will be between 500-700. Tomorrow, no shake, same coffee with cream. two feedings at 12 and 4 of protein-probably one with hamburger and another with chicken. No melba toast, fruit or veggies right now. Calories probably will be about 800-1000. I know this will work for me for a few days, will see what happens after that as far as adding back some veggies.

[wishbone]

ok...so....I am really gonna go outside of my box today for supper. Right now I am simmering some cabbage on the stove in some chicken broth. I don't know, for some reason it just sounds GOOD!!!!

And I know, dh will be all over it when he gets home...

[wishbone]

wow...the cabbage was yummy!! I sure hope it does'nt turn out to stall me.
I pulled out 4 portions for me and left the rest in a bowl for dh.
To some of "my juice", I added some butter extract and pored as few spoons over my dinner serving.
On my chicken....I used a bit of razberry wf salad dressing mixed with some Franks Wing Sauce. Then spooned a tad over the chicken. EXCELLENT!!

On the funny side....the other night, dh dished himself up a bowl of vanilla carbsmart ice cream and poured some wf syrup on top. He came out and I asked him which one he picked....the blueberry or the strawberry? He said the razzberry. I said I don't have any razberry, just blueberry or strawberry. He said....yes you do... and went and got the bottle to prove it to me. YUPP...that's what he had all right...razberry salad dressing all over his ice cream!!!! Good thing there was still some more in the freezer!!!

[nitenurse]

Just finished day 1 of planned restart-came to about 700 calories, and felt like a lot more food than I had been doing before for the same amount of calories, hope this will work for me, staying with the protocol just didn't work for me, I am so carb intolerant. Thanks again for your help.

[JSJ055]

Finally I've found my home! Real people who share real experiences. I started last week and It feels good to know that there are people finding they're own way thru this journey. I don't see anyway I can survive the next 40 days or so @ 500cal so I'm going to go against the grain and "Tweak It"...to be continued SN - Is anyone excerising while on Phase 2? My body is craving for a good workout but I'm afraid I might screw up my results.any thoughts? Thanks in advance

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by JSJ055

Finally I've found my home! Real people who share real experiences. I started last week and It feels good to know that there are people finding they're own way thru this journey. I don't see anyway I can survive the next 40 days or so @ 500cal so I'm going to go against the grain and "Tweak It"...to be continued SN - Is anyone excerising while on Phase 2? My body is craving for a good workout but I'm afraid I might screw up my results.any thoughts? Thanks in advance

So glad to have you here!! Yes there are exercisers in here that are doing fine! If you want to workout that is totally up to you!

I am sure the exercisers will chime in the next day or so.. it gets kinda quiet here at night. There are lots of folks finding their way, so jump in and give it a try, it is all an experiment for us.. excited to see how you do!!.

[Allykat1]

Originally Posted by JSJ055

Finally I've found my home! Real people who share real experiences. I started last week and It feels good to know that there are people finding they're own way thru this journey. I don't see anyway I can survive the next 40 days or so @ 500cal so I'm going to go against the grain and "Tweak It"...to be continued SN - Is anyone excerising while on Phase 2? My body is craving for a good workout but I'm afraid I might screw up my results.any thoughts? Thanks in advance

. I've modified my workout tremendously. Instead of spin class 4 - 5 days a week, I now do just 20 minutes of cardio on either the treadmill, elliptical or the stair monster and weight training. Any more and I am starving the whole day.

[JSJ055]

Thanks! I think I might try something like that for starters.

[Jenmay78]

Originally Posted by BlueMonday

Well, it is tough but doable for me. Basically, I am taking away the fruit and grisini and substituting those calories w/ calories from fat. For example, an apple and a grisini/melba together is roughly 100 calories. I replace that w/ 100 cals worth of mayo (sometimes I add some mustard to make a sauce out of it) and then I'll dip my chicken pieces or shrimp in that. Very low carb and the same number of calories. Plus the fat keeps me feeling fuller longer and I also find that I have more energy. The deep ketosis also adds a second layer of hunger control.

A low-cal day for me is 500-700 cals. I do that for 2 or 3 days and then have an "Atkins induction" type day where I don't monitor calories too closely and add some veggies and more fats, including cheese if I want. I probably end up in the 1100-1300 calorie range those days, but still very low carb.

Upping the protein in exchange for the fruit and grisini doesn't work as well for me and I end up feeling low-energy and sort of weak. The fat really helps!! But you have to be careful on the amount because the calories add up quickly w/ the fat.

One thing I find that works great for me is eggs. Each egg is around 90 cals and I find that 3 eggs really fills me up and keeps me full all day. So today I am having 3 hard boiled eggs for lunch, which is 270 cals. That gives me 300-350 cals to play with at dinner, which will probably be some kind of meat or chicken w/ some fat on it.

Blue Monday, I may try this. My fat intake has been equal with my protein or more most days. I've tried to lower the fat, but I can't seem to do it without adding veggies. I think I will take your advice and use more eggs or perhaps protein shakes to lower the fat per day. I am trying to still see what works for me

Originally Posted by nitenurse

Well, thanks for all the information/help. Starting again, this time with really lowcarb. Which I think will be this-on lower calorie days,coffee with cream AM, protein shake at noon, 4PM.protein-today will be a pork chop, fat removed. Calories will be between 500-700. Tomorrow, no shake, same coffee with cream. two feedings at 12 and 4 of protein-probably one with hamburger and another with chicken. No melba toast, fruit or veggies right now. Calories probably will be about 800-1000. I know this will work for me for a few days, will see what happens after that as far as adding back some veggies.

You are doing so great! I have been trying to get my calories under 1000 this week and it has been hard without having the normal "juice". I am only taking in 10 drops in the morning of my HHCG. I am definitely noticing a difference in my appetite.

Originally Posted by wishbone

ok...so....I am really gonna go outside of my box today for supper. Right now I am simmering some cabbage on the stove in some chicken broth. I don't know, for some reason it just sounds GOOD!!!!

And I know, dh will be all over it when he gets home...

That is soooo good!

Originally Posted by JSJ055

Finally I've found my home! Real people who share real experiences. I started last week and It feels good to know that there are people finding they're own way thru this journey. I don't see anyway I can survive the next 40 days or so @ 500cal so I'm going to go against the grain and "Tweak It"...to be continued SN - Is anyone excerising while on Phase 2? My body is craving for a good workout but I'm afraid I might screw up my results.any thoughts? Thanks in advance

Good luck! This group is awesome! Working out is being done. However, I am not at the moment. I don't like to work out

Originally Posted by Allykat1

. I've modified my workout tremendously. Instead of spin class 4 - 5 days a week, I now do just 20 minutes of cardio on either the treadmill, elliptical or the stair monster and weight training. Any more and I am starving the whole day.

That's a great idea Allykat! Thanks for sharing that info...just in case I need to start exercising

[Deb294evr]

Just a quicky post on my way to work, but I will say that I lost that pound plus .8 and am now down .8 on my maintenance week... so far so good!

Yesterday I had 1200 cals/ 50 carbs. Day before I had 2670/ way too many carbs.. So my up/down is working!..

[jlp2009]

Marci,
Did you and your home survive the storm yesterday? Sounds like Indiana got hit pretty hard.
Can you share your spicy dip recipe please?
Thanks!

[tempted_by_food]

I feel like Eddie Murphy from that movie "the nutty professor" I feel like am exploding out in different parts of my body I an eating normal and the scales are going up up up. I cant wait until friday to start loading even though I dont need it as I been loading like 2 weeks already, looking forward to a new round!!! I calculated and I should be able to do a 28 day round if needed and be in P4 for just before xmas eve. Thinking am going to do a clean week of P2 to get me loseing then try tweeking it and see how that goes.

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by tempted_by_food

I feel like Eddie Murphy from that movie "the nutty professor" I feel like am exploding out in different parts of my body I an eating normal and the scales are going up up up. I cant wait until friday to start loading even though I dont need it as I been loading like 2 weeks already, looking forward to a new round!!! I calculated and I should be able to do a 28 day round if needed and be in P4 for just before xmas eve. Thinking am going to do a clean week of P2 to get me loseing then try tweeking it and see how that goes.

I can just picture that TBF!... too funny.... well best of luck with your new round!!.. please continue to post even doing it clean!!... want to know how you are doing!

[Selahgal]

Originally Posted by jlp2009

Marci,
Did you and your home survive the storm yesterday? Sounds like Indiana got hit pretty hard.
Can you share your spicy dip recipe please?
Thanks!

Yes we survived. It wasn't too bad where we are plus we are surround by woods/trees on all sides. Did you fare ok?

Here's the recipe:

HCG Homemade ‘Rogue’ Mayo/Dip/Dressing
1/2 cup ff plain yogurt [I do use full fat or low fat ... fat free has too much crap in it OR just use milk or HnH instead]
1/2 cup low fat Cottage Cheese
2 tsp Dijon Mustard (reduce if you are not a mustard fan) [I use sf horseradish mustard]
1 tsp Olive Oil (opt. - improves texture and flavor) [I use ½ cup melted coconut oil]
1/4 tsp Ground Mustard Seed (opt. - adds some 'kick')
1/2 tsp Garlic Powder
1/2 tsp Onion Powder
1/4 tsp Salt (opt. - but brings out the flavors well)
sweetener to taste [optional]

Blend well and store in frig. [I add the melted coconut oil last since it'll want to harden up pretty fast once it hits the cold mayo mix!]

Variations:
for Tartar Sauce: add chopped dill pickles, horse radish
for Ranch: add dill weed, parsley, green onions
for Southwestern style dip add 3 TBSP hot salsa, 1/2 tsp cumin, 1/2 tsp mild chili powder, 1/2 tsp paprika

I have tried adding wasabi powder, cayenne pepper, red pepper flakes, horseradish and/or parsley flakes for variety and flavor ... but not all at once! I also add some sweetener because I like it HOT and SWEET! Be creative!

[j4Christ]

Hi all! I'm not sure if you remember me, I was on this thread a few weeks ago, rebelling with you all! I have been maintaining about 4 lbs. above my LDW, BUT for the last few weeks I have been on vacation, a week's stay at a relative's home for a funeral (which meant lots of casseroles etc. brought in by neighbors) so feeling pretty good to just a few lbs. up. Anyway, I ordered more drops and should be able to rogue my way to new weight loss!

Originally Posted by Violet Skye

Yay Susan (or should I call you Ms. Droopy Drawers?)

I am on Day 2 of The Real Program, and it was very interesting yesterday that I felt very much in touch with my degree of fullness, which is something I am not usually attuned to. One extra bite of food was enough to make me stuffed! I had to work hard to get in my minimum level of Points, and the idea of a midnight snack (my former habit!) was unthinkable. Today is the same, except that I have added exercise, and should usually feel hungrier. But I'm more thirsty than hungry. Lots to learn.....

In other news, one-size-fits-all pantyhose now fit me!!!!! Buh bye Queen-Sized!

VS-Is The Real Program the new WW program? Would you mind describing it to me? I have thought about counting points (my low end pts. and not adding in the extra 35) and dosing. Not quite sure what my "rogue plan" will be but am interested in what you are doing! And congrats on the NSV!!


I have been keeping up with everyone, even though I am just now coming out of hiding. I just love to read all the different plans and what works for everyone! Can't wait to get my drops and get started again!