HCG Non Simeon's Week of Oct/25/2010

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by pmartin6618

Hi Deb... I was just wondering what brand of hhcg are you using?... I'm almost out of my 1st hhcg bottle and was about to reorder.. but wanted to rethink the brand... can you share the name brand of your hhcg?

Thanks.

Sure, I use thinkhcgdrops. That is the brand name.

[pmartin6618]

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

Sure, I use thinkhcgdrops. That is the brand name.

THanks.... I "Think" I will check them out.

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by jdon

If I get hungry can I take rx hcg during the day? I know that everyone is playing with this and doing what works for them... Just could you put in more detail what is and what is NOT working for you. I was going to just give up this weekend and I found your post and have new encouragement. Y'all get to eat sometimes. Thank you for your time.

I don't think it matters what time of day you take your rx. I was doing shots, so did them in the morning before work. However, my hungriest time was at night during that round...maybe I should have switched times.

I've been doing homeopathic on all my subsequent meals.

BTW, it's not protocol, but I lose GREAT with tuna!. I combine one 5.5 oz can with 1 tsp mayo, 1 tsp apple cider vinegar, dill and onion powder, and serve on celery. Lately I've looked at my losses after cottage cheese days...and the total does not look good at all. So I'm giving that up for now.

I also never do the melba nor fruit but instead eat higher amounts of protein and occasionally more fat. My high protein 'snacks' lately are 1 tablespoon greek yogurt (homemade) combined with 1 T protein powder. MMMM!

Following the protocol as written left my bone-deep hungry. Not active growling hungry but kind of weak and extremely, extremely irritable. For me, the extra protein (I get 65-75 per day) has helped me. If I were larger or more active I'd aim for even more. So my version of 'protocol' is eat twice a day, high protein meats (or eggs), and 2-3 cups vegetables, some lemon, and make it at least 500 calories each day.

[petchie]

Not a good weigh in for me today. I am up 1.4 pounds. Now, I know that is not possible in one day, so.......will ride it all out. I did weigh between 160-165 for a few years (years ago) so can this be a "set point" they talk about? If so my next one would be 145-150 and then 130-135. Not even aiming for the last one LOL.

Glad to hear about the tuna, I forgot about making that. I can do that easily for lunch every day of the week.

Y'all are doing so great!

[sheryl0423]

I haven't followed the previous threads...Ima try to keep up with this one

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by petchie

Not a good weigh in for me today. I am up 1.4 pounds. Now, I know that is not possible in one day, so.......will ride it all out. I did weigh between 160-165 for a few years (years ago) so can this be a "set point" they talk about? If so my next one would be 145-150 and then 130-135. Not even aiming for the last one LOL.

I had a very bad previous setpoint - 182-184...which was a weight I had been at numerous times both at the end of weightloss and the start years earlier doing atkins and weight watchers. I blasted past it in my first round and then ended up stalling between 179-181 (partially due to cheating). So my experience was that the hcg helped blow past a setpoint and then I struggled who knows why? . Hope you will get past it soon!

Right now I'm up .4 due to TOM in the house. Day 3 so he should pack up his bags and getta outta here soon!

[Allykat1]

Originally Posted by jdon

Hi, this is my first post ever on anything, so if I do something wrong, sorry. I have some questions. I am taking the rx HCG under the tongue. Had done 22 days and lost 18 pounds but need more food.... I read about people using coconut oil and making chocolate delight. Could I take hcg and have this? Can I eat Atkins induction way with breakfast... and possibly still lose weight? You take the hhcg three times a day. If I get hungry can I take rx hcg during the day? I know that everyone is playing with this and doing what works for them... Just could you put in more detail what is and what is NOT working for you. I was going to just give up this weekend and I found your post and have new encouragement. Y'all get to eat sometimes. Thank you for your time.

WELCOME and keep the post coming! This really is the best show in town!!! My advice, take the HCG everyday, even if you don't eat as the plan dictates. You will be amazed with all the food variations you can have, not feel hungry . . . courtesy of HCG , and still lose weight. Life is truly good in Rouge-Ville.

[jlp2009]

Thanks everyone for your advice on low carb/low cal. I like to eat lots of veggies (I am a volume eater) with 5-6 oz of protein. But lots of veggies = more carbs. So I have been concentrating on calories more than carbs, but I justify it as those being good for me carbs! I don't do the fruit or melba either.
But I am missing low carb baking......I want to get a bit closer to my clothes fitting before allowing myself that guilty pleasure again!

[Allykat1]

I've done this before and each time it would send me into a carb overload. That scale totally mess with my mind and my confidence .
Words To Live By: "Don’t let the number determine your self-worth!"

One 40-something Prevention reader shared how her weight fluctuated in 1 day.

7:15 AM: 133.8 lb, Right before hopping in the shower

8:30 AM: 137.5 lb, Wow, my clothes weigh 3.7 lb!

9:15 AM: 138.7 lb, Gained 1.2 lb from breakfast

10:30 AM: 137.9 lb, Bathroom break, -0.8 lb

1 PM: 135.8 lb, Lost 2.1 lb, thanks to a sweaty cardio workout

1:30 PM: 137.4 lb, Up 1.6 lb from lunch

4 PM: 138.6 lb, Gained 1.2 lb, probably from all the water I was drinking

5:30 PM: 137.5 lb, Bathroom break, -1.1 lb

11 PM: 140.8 lb, Yikes! Gained 3.3 lb—probably the pasta I ate and the wine!

11:30 PM: 137.1 lb, Undressed—huh, gained 3.3 lb since this morning

7:15 AM: 135.4 lb, Lost 1.7 lb while sleeping

[nitenurse]

I'm a little, I really mean a lot, confused. Did everyone here do a first round according to protocol, and then go rogue???
Or is there anyone that started on the drops and did their own thing from the start???

[Allykat1]

Originally Posted by nitenurse

I'm a little, I really mean a lot, confused. Did everyone here do a first round according to protocol, and then go rogue???
Or is there anyone that started on the drops and did their own thing from the start???

I did the first 23 days strictly adhering to the Protocol guidelines, then I got bored. I also never really got my hunger under control until I started adding an extra serving of protein to my lunch and dinner and that helped tremendously. With most things I figured someone had come up with an alternative to the Protocol and I searched Google and found this thread. The rest is history and I never looked back .

[Selahgal]

Originally Posted by nitenurse

I'm a little, I really mean a lot, confused. Did everyone here do a first round according to protocol, and then go rogue???
Or is there anyone that started on the drops and did their own thing from the start???

I did two weeks of Round 1 by the book and then began going rogue. Never looked back!

[petchie]

Originally Posted by nitenurse

I'm a little, I really mean a lot, confused. Did everyone here do a first round according to protocol, and then go rogue???
Or is there anyone that started on the drops and did their own thing from the start???

I have been rogue from the start. I am basically doing atkins induction, trying to limit fat a bit more than usual. I average between 500-800 calories on a normal day and 1000-1200 on an upswing "I gotta eat" day.

I do no fruit (yet) and limited veggies. Many days my carb count is not much over 10g.

[Selahgal]

OK, it's not that easy doing low cal AND low carb! Yipes. I mean, I cannot eat MORE veggies because I will get more CARBS and I can't eat MORE protein because it'll mean more CALORIES! Not sure if ****** is accurate but it says I ate close to 1,000 calories and 20 carbs today ... good with the carbs, horrid with the calories as this was supposed to be a LOW CAL DAY! Sheesh. I have felt hungry all day and it seems like I haven't eaten hardly anything! Come on, juice, KICK IN!!!

Deb and others who are trying it this way, what ARE you eating on days you're trying low cal AND low carb? Is it basically the original Dr. S plan but without the fruit and bread/crackers? Holy cow, the original plan is torture enough WITH the fruit, I can't imagine trying it even more strict! BLEH!

I need to decide if I should up the carbs a notch or two instead of doing the Atkins Induction 20 carbs a day limit. I don't think I can do both low cal and low carb in the same day. It might be better to just do low carb and the juice and call it ok IF that turns out to be something that'll show steady losses, which remains to be seen! OR I could not worry about the carbs on the low cal days. Guess there are many ways to swing this thing!

Petchie, how are you doing this? Details! I need details! HELP!

[petchie]

Originally Posted by Selahgal

OK, it's not that easy doing low cal AND low carb! Yipes. I mean, I cannot eat MORE veggies because I will get more CARBS and I can't eat MORE protein because it'll mean more CALORIES! Not sure if ****** is accurate but it says I ate close to 1,000 calories and 20 carbs today ... good with the carbs, horrid with the calories as this was supposed to be a LOW CAL DAY! Sheesh. I have felt hungry all day and it seems like I haven't eaten hardly anything! Come on, juice, KICK IN!!!

Deb and others who are trying it this way, what ARE you eating on days you're trying low cal AND low carb? Is it basically the original Dr. S plan but without the fruit and bread/crackers? Holy cow, the original plan is torture enough WITH the fruit, I can't imagine trying it even more strict! BLEH!

I need to decide if I should up the carbs a notch or two instead of doing the Atkins Induction 20 carbs a day limit. I don't think I can do both low cal and low carb in the same day. It might be better to just do low carb and the juice and call it ok IF that turns out to be something that'll show steady losses, which remains to be seen! OR I could not worry about the carbs on the low cal days. Guess there are many ways to swing this thing!

Petchie, how are you doing this? Details! I need details! HELP!

I started from an Atkins beginning, so I was already in hunger depressing ketosis. On low days I eat chicken breast, grilled shrimp, grilled beef tenderloin, am adding in tuna in water. usually half a cucumber with salt. I can do it for a day or two then do an up day with veggies, rib eye and dry rub ribs.

edited to add: TONS of water and crystal light iced tea

[Jenmay78]

On my low cal days I do almost all chicken and some eggs. I will drink a lot of tea and water if I have hunger. I do not eat nuts or cheese on low cal days because I need the protein more than the calories to keep me satisfied. I was trying to do a low cal/low carb day today but it didn't work out. I had around 1000 calories and 20 carbs. I am almost out of drops so I am not too worried about 1000 calories at this point. I will attempt to do a low cal day tomorrow. Perhaps I will go to fit day and plan my day tomorrow to prevent going over 700 cals.

[Deb294evr]

Marci, you got some great replies from Petchie and Jen.

When I do my low cal days, I don't worry about the carbs. Mainly because you are not going to get enough calories that carbs will make any difference. Which is basically what P2 is. If you don't want the fruit or the bread then up the protein .. like the others said. I think it is very difficult to go both low cal/carb trying to keep it under 20. It can be done, but if your carbs are veges, I don't think it will matter much.

One thing I did learn this week, is that just like when I am trying to lose weight, I have to follow a high day by a lower day, or I will not maintain either.... Up a pound since yesterday, when I did NOT have a low day.

I had a day pretty much like Sunday, HIGH. Now since I am trying to maintain, I need to get the pound off. Today I eat a lower day. I am going for a low carb day, without a calorie limit, but within reason. I shall see how this works. EXPERIMENT continues...

Everyone have a wonderful day!!...

[robinkay]

Checking in.

Day1: 204.2 lbs. Cals 778 Carbs 63
Day 2: 201.8 lbs. Cals 808 Carbs 51
Day 3: 200.2 lbs Cals 994 Carbs 51
Day 4: 199.8 lbs Cals 1110 Carbs 56
Day 5: 201.0 lbs Cals 1295 Carbs 72
Day 6: 199.8 lbs Cals 675 Carbs 50

[tempted_by_food]

Thanx Deb!!!

Robin...woot congrats on ONDERLAND

[wishbone]

wow...I hav'nt been here since last thursday.

Sounds like everyone is doing GREAT tho!!!

I'm down to 172.4 this morning. Lost .4 from yesterday. I can smell the
160's!!!

This morning I'm making a new soup at the bar. So the REBEL in me wil have to taste & tweek, taste & tweek, taste & tweek. I guess I don't do to bad, I just dip my spoon in and check the broth till I get what I want. It will start with a creamy potato soup and hopefully end up with a ranch flavored base. Bacon will of course be in there somewhere. Oh...and cheese.
Someday....I will sit down and have a whole bowl. And hopefully it won't make me from the carbs. I love soup...the creamier, the cheesier, the BETTER!!!!

Have a great day everyone!!!

[jlp2009]

Marci,
That was the same issue that I was having. I figured out that I can't have it both ways (at least not just yet). All the forums that I read about LC said that folks were able to eat as much as they wanted. I put on 15 lbs. (it was a slow, sneaky gain!)thinking that I could eat like that since I eat A LOT. For years I maintained my weight eating fat free and lots of it. However, it wasn't much fun and it was hurting my health. That's when I decided to LC. I never did Atkins induction, just sort of "winged it", watching carbs.
Obviously I didn't watch them close enough!!

Now, I have pretty much been doing what Deb described. I need the volume of food that the veggies provide in order to feel full while keeping calories down.

I still have cravings (had them on LC too) and hunger but if I stay busy it takes my mind off it and makes it more manageable.
I hope to be able to decrease the drops to twice a day at some point. That may be my next experiment!

I am fascinated with all of the different ways that everyone is tweaking this to work for them.

[paulabob]

GRUMPY! UP 1 pound today.

I normally don't have TOM gains 2 days in a row...but that has to be what it is. So I'm up 1.4 total from two days ago.

I guess I shouldn't have used so much soy sauce in yesterday's supper either. I was thirsty all last night and woke up 3 times to pee.

Oh well, I'm sure I'll have something positive to say tomorrow! And my supper was super delicious.

[Selahgal]

Well, I dropped a pound and a half so today at 204! SO, for the time being I'm going to stick with 'about' 900-1,000 calories daily and 20 carbs and as long as this is working, NOT calorie cycle YET. Maybe I don't need to shake things up every other day? Maybe once a week or just the weekends or something else would work? Just thinking while I type here. Yeah, I'm gonna not worry about carbs if I do higher calorie days. I am hoping to ease up the carb counts a bit eventually too. Thanks for the input peeps!

Plowing on!

[12yrslater]

Morning Rebels!

PHEW! What a morning! I had to hold my 5 year old 40 lb DD extremely hard so the wind wouldn't blow her away! Boy is it BAD OUT THERE TODAY!!!!

So I didn't weigh and don't plan on it til the end of the week. I'm afraid what I will see :blush: Yesterday I ate as planned (my plan)....It was low low carb. I think the only carbs I had were from the BBQ sauce on the ribs but even then, it wasn't much cuz I dabbed most of it off

Originally Posted by Allykat1

WELCOME and keep the post coming! This really is the best show in town!!! My advice, take the HCG everyday, even if you don't eat as the plan dictates. You will be amazed with all the food variations you can have, not feel hungry . . . courtesy of HCG , and still lose weight. Life is truly good in Rouge-Ville.

Amen to that!

Originally Posted by Allykat1

I've done this before and each time it would send me into a carb overload. That scale totally mess with my mind and my confidence .
Words To Live By: "Don’t let the number determine your self-worth!"

One 40-something Prevention reader shared how her weight fluctuated in 1 day.

7:15 AM: 133.8 lb, Right before hopping in the shower

8:30 AM: 137.5 lb, Wow, my clothes weigh 3.7 lb!

9:15 AM: 138.7 lb, Gained 1.2 lb from breakfast

10:30 AM: 137.9 lb, Bathroom break, -0.8 lb

1 PM: 135.8 lb, Lost 2.1 lb, thanks to a sweaty cardio workout

1:30 PM: 137.4 lb, Up 1.6 lb from lunch

4 PM: 138.6 lb, Gained 1.2 lb, probably from all the water I was drinking

5:30 PM: 137.5 lb, Bathroom break, -1.1 lb

11 PM: 140.8 lb, Yikes! Gained 3.3 lb—probably the pasta I ate and the wine!

11:30 PM: 137.1 lb, Undressed—huh, gained 3.3 lb since this morning

7:15 AM: 135.4 lb, Lost 1.7 lb while sleeping

Quite an eye opener but the very reason why I only weigh post bathroom break in the am and no more throughout the day

Originally Posted by nitenurse

I'm a little, I really mean a lot, confused. Did everyone here do a first round according to protocol, and then go rogue???
Or is there anyone that started on the drops and did their own thing from the start???

Well, I did about 20 days CLEAN, on protocol eating. I never made it to P3. I never made it to the 3 days no juicing and eating 500 cals. I went from P2 (day 20ish) right into rogueville

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

Marci, you got some great replies from Petchie and Jen.

When I do my low cal days, I don't worry about the carbs. Mainly because you are not going to get enough calories that carbs will make any difference. Which is basically what P2 is. If you don't want the fruit or the bread then up the protein .. like the others said. I think it is very difficult to go both low cal/carb trying to keep it under 20. It can be done, but if your carbs are veges, I don't think it will matter much.

One thing I did learn this week, is that just like when I am trying to lose weight, I have to follow a high day by a lower day, or I will not maintain either.... Up a pound since yesterday, when I did NOT have a low day.

I had a day pretty much like Sunday, HIGH. Now since I am trying to maintain, I need to get the pound off. Today I eat a lower day. I am going for a low carb day, without a calorie limit, but within reason. I shall see how this works. EXPERIMENT continues...

Everyone have a wonderful day!!...

Great advise (as always ) ....

Originally Posted by robinkay

Checking in.

Day1: 204.2 lbs. Cals 778 Carbs 63
Day 2: 201.8 lbs. Cals 808 Carbs 51
Day 3: 200.2 lbs Cals 994 Carbs 51
Day 4: 199.8 lbs Cals 1110 Carbs 56
Day 5: 201.0 lbs Cals 1295 Carbs 72
Day 6: 199.8 lbs Cals 675 Carbs 50

Rock it lady!!!!! ROCK IT!!!

Originally Posted by wishbone

wow...I hav'nt been here since last thursday.

Sounds like everyone is doing G
REAT tho!!!

I'm down to 172.4 this morning. Lost .4 from yesterday. I can smell the
160's!!!

This morning I'm making a new soup at the bar. So the REBEL in me wil have to taste & tweek, taste & tweek, taste & tweek. I guess I don't do to bad, I just dip my spoon in and check the broth till I get what I want. It will start with a creamy potato soup and hopefully end up with a ranch flavored base. Bacon will of course be in there somewhere. Oh...and cheese.
Someday....I will sit down and have a whole bowl. And hopefully it won't make me from the carbs. I love soup...the creamier, the cheesier, the BETTER!!!!

Have a great day everyone!!!

Now I want soup!

You will be in the 160s before you know it!!!!

Originally Posted by paulabob

GRUMPY! UP 1 pound today.

I normally don't have TOM gains 2 days in a row...but that has to be what it is. So I'm up 1.4 total from two days ago.

I guess I shouldn't have used so much soy sauce in yesterday's supper either. I was thirsty all last night and woke up 3 times to pee.

Oh well, I'm sure I'll have something positive to say tomorrow! And my supper was super delicious.

Water....Water....Water.... But sure you already know that

What was for supper? I wanna know

[12yrslater]

Originally Posted by Selahgal

Well, I dropped a pound and a half so today at 204! SO, for the time being I'm going to stick with 'about' 900-1,000 calories daily and 20 carbs and as long as this is working, NOT calorie cycle YET. Maybe I don't need to shake things up every other day? Maybe once a week or just the weekends or something else would work? Just thinking while I type here. Yeah, I'm gonna not worry about carbs if I do higher calorie days. I am hoping to ease up the carb counts a bit eventually too. Thanks for the input peeps!

Plowing on!

Can you taste the 100s?!?!?!??!? I bet you could

WTG Marci!!!!!!!

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by 12yrslater

What was for supper? I wanna know

It was a beef lettuce wrap (cabbage in the cooked meat). I didn't think it tasted Asian enough so I added more soy sauce. But I sure enjoyed eating it! And yes, I mixed my veggies... If I'd had some raw ginger, it would have been perfect. But I keep forgetting to buy that at the store...for months now.

[12yrslater]

Originally Posted by paulabob

It was a beef lettuce wrap (cabbage in the cooked meat). I didn't think it tasted Asian enough so I added more soy sauce. But I sure enjoyed eating it! And yes, I mixed my veggies... If I'd had some raw ginger, it would have been perfect. But I keep forgetting to buy that at the store...for months now.

Can you post the actual recipe? Sounds good! I love anything wrapped! Christmas and Birthdays are extra special to me

[Selahgal]

Originally Posted by 12yrslater

Can you taste the 100s?!?!?!??!? I bet you could

WTG Marci!!!!!!!

Yeah I can, but like you, I'm getting so tiny now I may BLOW AWAY TODAY!!!! DANG IT IS WINDY AND we're under a tornado watch RIGHT NOW!!! OY VAY!!!

[12yrslater]

Originally Posted by Selahgal

Yeah I can, but like you, I'm getting so tiny now I may BLOW AWAY TODAY!!!! DANG IT IS WINDY AND we're under a tornado watch RIGHT NOW!!! OY VAY!!!

OY VAY is right!!!! Stay safe! It's horrid out there.....

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by 12yrslater

Can you post the actual recipe? Sounds good! I love anything wrapped! Christmas and Birthdays are extra special to me

I found a recipe here on the Simeon's recipes sticky. I just modified it to use lettuce to wrap instead of cabbage, and used beef instead of chicken. I also used fish sauce and soy sauce -too much sodium- and a dash of sesame oil. Plus a lot of red pepper flakes...I love everything spicy! There are a LOT of great ideas in that recipe sticky, and I always try to make 2 or 3 portions at a time.

I am so not doing chicken this round...I am over dried out fatless chicken! Have always been a dark meat fan anyways.

Here's the original recipe:
Balsamic Chicken Wraps
3.5 ounces chicken
2 med green cabbage leaf
2 med Napa cabbage leaf
1 garlic clove
3 T. balsamic vinegar
1⁄4 t onion powder
1⁄4 T. sea salt
1⁄4 T. pepper
1 T. fresh ginger
Mix together finely grated ginger, garlic, onion powder, balsamic vinegar, salt, pepper and chicken pieces. Cook until chicken is cooked thoroughly and then add the Napa cabbage and cook until cabbage is slightly cooked. Take the 2 green cabbage leaf and split the chicken mixture and place in cabbage leaf’s and roll into a wrap.