Simeon's Protocol - Week of 10/4/2010

[tempted_by_food]

Cucumber is considered a fruit

[Emi]

Originally Posted by thin in 2010

I can not wait for P4 this round, lol. I love baking this time of year and it will be nice to be able to have some of my goodies. I do make them pretty healthy anyway though. I try to use coconut flour in place of wheat and turbinado sugar.

My round 3 will fall in b/w Thanksgiving and Christmas so I'll have to discipline myself for those 3 wks.! Then we're going on vacation from Christmas to New Years an I plan on enjoying myself!!!

I have no expierence cooking w/either flours: which is better to use almond or coconut flour?

[KOO]

Originally Posted by tempted_by_food

Cucumber is considered a fruit

Okay, learn something new everyday. I've never heard it called a fruit even though it has seeds inside.

[Emi]

Originally Posted by catr31

Maybe it's the splenda or eating 2 diff veggies at lunch?

I vote 2 veggies!!!!! Are you getting all you water?!?!

[CaTriGirl]

Originally Posted by tempted_by_food

I had a few slip ups in P2 and stabilized very well in P3 and doing great now I am in P4.

Oh that is SOOO good to hear! Thank you!

Originally Posted by Emi

Down 1 lb today!!!! Yeah! I ate cabbager yesterday, so it was definantly the hint of soy I added to my cabbage the day before that landed me a gain!!! My fault ... what was I thinking, the plan works so well for me .... I CAN LAST THROUGH P2!!!!

That is great you were able to pin point it! Congrats on the loss!

Originally Posted by thin in 2010

I can not wait for P4 this round, lol. I love baking this time of year and it will be nice to be able to have some of my goodies. I do make them pretty healthy anyway though. I try to use coconut flour in place of wheat and turbinado sugar.

My round 3 will fall in b/w Thanksgiving and Christmas so I'll have to discipline myself for those 3 wks.! Then we're going on vacation from Christmas to New Years an I plan on enjoying myself!!!

Me TOO! I am SO ready! Heck, I'm happy to just have P3.

Originally Posted by droy

WHAT? I never knew that.

Here is where is mentions it in P&I, that she is referring to.

It seems that even in the mildest cases of obesity the diencephalon requires about three weeks rest from the maximal exertion to which it has been previously subjected in order to regain fully its normal fat-banking capacity.

[catr31]

VLCD15, starting week 3 with no loss today(148.6) but I'm pretty sure I can make it to my mini goal of 145 by day 21. Haven't had any "movement" for a few days so I drank some dieters tea this morning hoping to move things along.

[tempted_by_food]

yep it is technically a fruit but it is grouped with the veggies. I only found this out myself a few months ago lol

[catr31]

Originally Posted by tempted_by_food

Cucumber is considered a fruit

I never knew that.

[droy]

Originally Posted by CaTriGirl

Here is where is mentions it in P&I, that she is referring to.

It seems that even in the mildest cases of obesity the diencephalon requires about three weeks rest from the maximal exertion to which it has been previously subjected in order to regain fully its normal fat-banking capacity.

Well thank goodness my bottle of wine was 33 days ago.

[CaTriGirl]

Originally Posted by tempted_by_food

Cucumber is considered a fruit

True, but didn't Simeon's consider it a veggie?

[torister]

Originally Posted by CaTriGirl

True, but didn't Simeon's consider it a veggie?

Yes...he did and that is how I considered it as well. I ate it nearly every day of my first P2 in addition to two fruits and had no problem losing. I would think that it is the mixing of the two veggies.

[tempted_by_food]

Well tomatoes is either a fruit or a veg and can be used both ways even though he doesnt list it as a fruit in the protocol it is used as both so in that case so can a cucumber.

[CaTriGirl]

Originally Posted by torister

Yes...he did and that is how I considered it as well. I ate it nearly every day of my first P2 in addition to two fruits and had no problem losing. I would think that it is the mixing of the two veggies.

Yup, that would be my vote too. CRAZY the slightest deviation in some ppl and others can have a big mess up and nothing.

[catr31]

Originally Posted by tempted_by_food

Well tomatoes is either a fruit or a veg and can be used both ways even though he doesnt list it as a fruit in the protocol it is used as both so in that case so can a cucumber.

I don't eat tomatoes as a fruit, but then again I don't eat tomatoes at all.

[catzrule]

Gracie, i wondered that too. Why has no doc picked up and re-researched this?

Peggy, I say the same thing to my DH who says I SHOULD know I look totally different, but not in my mind's eye. He gets mad at me because I can't see it yet.

CTG, I'm here. So glad you had a wonderful time! Yanno, I didn't sleep so great last night either (nervous about a meeting I had today), but I also can't remember if the scale read 131.8 or 131.2 this morning. So I'm either down 0.2 or 0.8...LOL@me

I'll catch up to you yet sistah!

[torister]

Originally Posted by catr31

I don't eat tomatoes as a fruit, but then again I don't eat tomatoes at all.

I didn't eat them at all in P2 as they seem to cause issues with people. I stuck to the ones I did well on.

[tempted_by_food]

I have no problem with tomatoes raw but when cooked that is a different matter it made me stall.

[torister]

Originally Posted by tempted_by_food

I have no problem with tomatoes raw but when cooked that is a different matter it made me stall.

Isn't that weird?!?!

[tempted_by_food]

Totally cooking must change or release something in them that does not agree with me I guess.

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by pmartin6618

Good Morning All:... again no gain or loss today... weight stayed the same now for 3-days... at 249.4... what's going on?... I'm on protocol.

My Menu:

B: black coffee w/splenda
L: romain lettuce & cucumber & chicken breast w/juice of a lemon (half a lemon)
D: 3.5-oz steak w/asparagus

This has been my menu for the last 2-days.... what am I doing wrong? Do I need to eat more?

My vote would be the mixing of the veggies too. Also, sometimes Splenda does not agree with people. I try to stick with sweet-n-low or stevia while in P2. In P3 I can eat all the Splenda I want with no problems. How has your water intake been? Also, have you been measuring? Days when I didn't have much scale action I had great inch loss.

[Potaty]

Koo~I agree, it's so great you are helping your daughter do this! I did Jenny Craig with my mom before my senior year of high school and went back for my sr. year at 130 lbs. I had confidence and was much more involved!

I lost 4.4 lbs on my first VLCD! Woot! I really needed that big loss to keep my motivation going since I've had such a hard time starting R2.

I will try to be back later with more personals, I have 2 kids under 2.5 yrs so it can be difficult to keep up! Have a great day everyone!

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by pmartin6618

Good Morning All:... again no gain or loss today... weight stayed the same now for 3-days... at 249.4... what's going on?... I'm on protocol.

My Menu:

B: black coffee w/splenda
L: romain lettuce & cucumber & chicken breast w/juice of a lemon (half a lemon)
D: 3.5-oz steak w/asparagus

This has been my menu for the last 2-days.... what am I doing wrong? Do I need to eat more?

One more thing, are you hungry? If you are not hungry, why would you eat more? Dr. Simeons says you can eliminate anything but the protein if you are not hungry. I usually ate my food allotment for the day but sometimes I would skip things because I was not hungry at all. That's the awesome thing about the hcg, no hunger!!!!!!!!

[Hope2Be2010]

I just wanted to check in I'm doing great! VLCD1 I started at 251 I am now on VLCD21 at 232 so, 19 pounds lost. I hope tomato's are OK for me? I have never eaten them I decided to try, I don't think I can choke down another cucumber.

Today's menu

lunch
3.5 oz of 93% lean Hamburger meat
insides of a tomato with oregano baked
Small Granny Smith apple baked with cinnamon

Dinner
3.5 oz of no fat cottage cheese
outside of the tomato that I had for lunch
5 strawberries

[Mindfulness]

Originally Posted by pmartin6618

Good Morning All:... again no gain or loss today... weight stayed the same now for 3-days... at 249.4... what's going on?... I'm on protocol.

My Menu:

B: black coffee w/splenda
L: romain lettuce & cucumber & chicken breast w/juice of a lemon (half a lemon)
D: 3.5-oz steak w/asparagus

This has been my menu for the last 2-days.... what am I doing wrong? Do I need to eat more?

Don't stress about it. Keep doing what you are doing and it will come off when your body is ready. Stuff you don't see is going on inside your body. Just trust it. I bet you have a loss in the next day or so.

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by Mindfulness

Don't stress about it. Keep doing what you are doing and it will come off when your body is ready. Stuff you don't see is going on inside your body. Just trust it. I bet you have a loss in the next day or so.

Ditto this. On both my rounds my slow week was week 2, and week 3 was much better!

[Chouter]

You know, all this talk about going "rogue" is interesting. I think in some ways, most of us are "rogue", simply because none of us are perfect. It may be the slightest thing, or big things, and yet we still lose, mostly. For me, I try to stick to protocol, and that is my goal, but as I've already confessed, I had wine in P2, I had some cream in my coffee on occassion, I chew gum, I haven't changed any of my products, and I've still lost. I wonder sometimes if they served P2 Chili at Dr. Simeon's hospital. For me, doing it "mostly" according to protocol has worked well, and I had a fabulous P3. I hope that continues on this next round, and if I do another, I will still do my best. But I am not perfect. I guess because of my imperfect P2s, I am not willing to really play fast and lose with the program.

[paulabob]

In case I'm not needy enough...have a question for my HCG peeps.

Do you like my hair natural (slightly curly) in first pic or the straightened look. Please ignore the state of my kids' bathroom where I was doing my hair. :blush:

I also think I need to get at least 4 inches of length taken off.

All opinions welcome.

[tempted_by_food]

Paula...I think it looks beautiful both ways. I miss long hair.

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by paulabob

In case I'm not needy enough...have a question for my HCG peeps.

Do you like my hair natural (slightly curly) in first pic or the straightened look. Please ignore the state of my kids' bathroom where I was doing my hair. :blush:

I also think I need to get at least 4 inches of length taken off.

All opinions welcome.

I like them both but if I were to pick I like the first pic better with the slight curls. My hair is as long as yours and naturally curly too.

[Mindfulness]

Originally Posted by paulabob

In case I'm not needy enough...have a question for my HCG peeps.

Do you like my hair natural (slightly curly) in first pic or the straightened look. Please ignore the state of my kids' bathroom where I was doing my hair. :blush:

I also think I need to get at least 4 inches of length taken off.

All opinions welcome.

I like them both too. I have similar length hair, but mine is much curlier. I use Frizz-Ease Dream Curls Curl Perfecter by John Frieda. It makes really nice curls/waves in naturally wavy hair. I have a flat iron and straighten occasionally. It's a nice change.