Simeon's Protocol - Week of 10/4/2010 - Page 12

Mindfulness · 10-09-2010, 10:14 AM

[QUOTE=Chouter;13976254]

Down this morning 1.4 lbs! I am now in a new decade, Hel-looooooooo 150s!
QUOTE]

How exciting! Great job!!!

2B Me · 10-09-2010, 10:18 AM

Good morning everyone!

I've been skimming and trying to learn who's who.

Stacy - congrats on the 30lb club.

I like your new photo. You're rocking those white jeans!! I'm gonna get me a pair when I've dropped a bunch more.

Emi - How often are you doing the drops or are you on shots? I've read that doing fewer drops more times per day can help with hunger. I started doing seven 3x/day, but then I tried six 6x/day, but now I've found it hard to get all six doses in.

Droy - I'm afraid of stopping P2, but I have weeks still before I have to. Do you think you are dropping now cuz you changed any part of your diet?

Peggy - congrats on the P4 success. It's encouraging news!!

PMartin - I was afraid of the scale going up today for me too. I finished TOM last week, but have two or three days of food in me still and I don't care for that. I was happy it dropped 1.1.

Today I'm going to eat one of the apples. I haven't had an apple in a day or two. I hope that helps. I'm a bit afraid of them stalling me and can't see eating two per day. Don't let the scale discourage you. It will move.

My scale was the same for three days, but even though I was afraid it would go up today, I was pleased to see it go down 1.1. I'm down a total of 10.6 in just under 3wks. I didn't start HCG till I had lost 5 on plain LC and was not about to load. I've really seen a lot of inches leave my mid-section. I didn't take pics or measure before, but I have lots of photos and somewhere I have measurements from the past that should work.

Anyone ever feel as if you are losing muscle? I fear that eating so little is risky even though the HCG is to tell your body to release bad stored fat. I had to walk up nearly three flights of stairs last weekend and I could really feel the drain on my leg muscles.

droy · 10-09-2010, 10:20 AM

2B me - I just ended TOM so I assume that is why. Nothing else is different and when TOM came I stalled for 3 days so I think I am just playig catch up which is why I want to take advantage of these few days and not stop.

Mindfulness · 10-09-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by droy

Does anyone else have an issue stopping P2? - mentally....

My Dr is fine with me continuing until I hit immunity. My plan has been to stop the day the scale doesn't move down and for the first time ever I am losing a full lb a day as soon as I say that. It's driving me crazy... I hate stopping now that I am FINALLY losing at a good rate. I think regardless of the loss (if there is one) I will stop tomorrow.

Yes. I did not want to stop P2 and stop losing. It was really addicting getting on the scale every morning hoping for a loss. However, on day 40 I was kinda looking forward to different food. I did 3 weeks of P3 and I skipped P4 because I was ready to get to losing again.

2B Me · 10-09-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by droy

I would cut out the cottage cheese first. then the tomatoes if that doesn't work. You could just be at a stall or pre-set weight as well

Cottage cheese is only supposed to be used once in a while

I think this is very likely. I think it was slowing my loss. I eat 1% fat and think it's probably too much fat.

2B Me · 10-09-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by droy

2B me - I just ended TOM so I assume that is why. Nothing else is different and when TOM came I stalled for 3 days so I think I am just playig catch up which is why I want to take advantage of these few days and not stop.

How much have you lost with the shots and how much do they cost? I'm thinking as I get lower on the drops, I may switch to shots.

2B Me · 10-09-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chouter

Down this morning 1.4 lbs! I am now in a new decade, Hel-looooooooo 150s!

WTG!!

Getting to the 150's a major goal of mine.

Hope2Be2010 · 10-09-2010, 10:45 AM

Thanks for the help ladies! I will eliminate the cottage cheese and see what happens.

pmartin6618 · 10-09-2010, 12:46 PM

I DID IT!!!!!... I STUCK TO PROTOCOL AND FINALLY AFTER 3-DAYS I have loss again.... today I'm down another 1.8-lbs. breaking my stall since Tuesday.......

This morning I weighed in 248.2, but I didn't want to believe it... so I just weighed again... 6-hours later.. and it's still 248.2... so it's reallllllll.... the scale moved downward....

Thank goodness... now I can continue on... but be more prepared to deal with stall and fluctuations...

So since 9/27/10 - 10/9/10 I have lost a total of 14.4-lbs. in a total of 12 full days. Hhcg is working.. and I am losing these pounds.

Hoping everyone else is also losing.

droy · 10-09-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 2B Me

How much have you lost with the shots and how much do they cost? I'm thinking as I get lower on the drops, I may switch to shots.

I am on day 60 or so (lost count - dosing 6 days a week for 9ish weeks) and have lost 32.4 lbs. Not sure if I am allowed to talk about the shots on here. I do go through a Dr though so it's not cheap

KOO · 10-09-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pmartin6618

I DID IT!!!!!... I STUCK TO PROTOCOL AND FINALLY AFTER 3-DAYS I have loss again.... today I'm down another 1.8-lbs. breaking my stall since Tuesday.......

This morning I weighed in 248.2, but I didn't want to believe it... so I just weighed again... 6-hours later.. and it's still 248.2... so it's reallllllll.... the scale moved downward....

Thank goodness... now I can continue on... but be more prepared to deal with stall and fluctuations...

So since 9/27/10 - 10/9/10 I have lost a total of 14.4-lbs. in a total of 12 full days. Hhcg is working.. and I am losing these pounds.

Hoping everyone else is also losing.

Congrats for working through the stall, you are doing great!

KOO · 10-09-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ILookHappy2

Thanks for the help ladies! I will eliminate the cottage cheese and see what happens.

I think that will make the difference!

principessa54 · 10-09-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by droy

Even though this is my 9th week with injections?

Oh I must have missed the part of your post where you said you were on injections. I assumed you were doing the drops. With the injections in the P & I book it says that you become immune to the shots and have to stop after a certain number of days or a certain number of pounds lost. I can't remember off the top of my head but maybe someone else can chime in if they remember. So, I would stop the injections and move on to P3 for a few weeks then jump back to losing.

CaTriGirl · 10-09-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 2B Me

Good morning everyone!

I've been skimming and trying to learn who's who.

Anyone ever feel as if you are losing muscle? I fear that eating so little is risky even though the HCG is to tell your body to release bad stored fat. I had to walk up nearly three flights of stairs last weekend and I could really feel the drain on my leg muscles.

I've been testing my body fat every week and have not lost any muscle at all. I'm on round 2. It's amazing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmartin6618

I DID IT!!!!!... I STUCK TO PROTOCOL AND FINALLY AFTER 3-DAYS I have loss again.... today I'm down another 1.8-lbs. breaking my stall since Tuesday.......

This morning I weighed in 248.2, but I didn't want to believe it... so I just weighed again... 6-hours later.. and it's still 248.2... so it's reallllllll.... the scale moved downward....

Thank goodness... now I can continue on... but be more prepared to deal with stall and fluctuations...

So since 9/27/10 - 10/9/10 I have lost a total of 14.4-lbs. in a total of 12 full days. Hhcg is working.. and I am losing these pounds.

Hoping everyone else is also losing.

Awesome!!!

hollydaybarbie · 10-09-2010, 04:02 PM

ive just started hcg 9 days ago. i have lost 16 lbs. i am feeling good, but also cold and cant understand why. i am always roasting. i live in AZ, no reason to be cold.

mistydisa · 10-09-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CaTriGirl

I've been testing my body fat every week and have not lost any muscle at all. I'm on round 2. It's amazing.

Refresh my memory, are you doing Rx or hhcg? I, too, have been wondering if I'm losing muscle... I'm doing hhcg.

Spider_Lily · 10-09-2010, 05:57 PM

I know now why they say no exercise in phase 2.I went out today working in my yard.Then when hubby got home we worked moving a fence for our horse.
I almost passed out I could feel it coming..He had to help me in the house .I think my sugar bottomed out.I ate a couple bites of a sweet apple and felt better.Very scary.

Healthy and Happy · 10-09-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider_Lily

I know now why they say no exercise in phase 2.I went out today working in my yard.Then when hubby got home we worked moving a fence for our horse.
I almost passed out I could feel it coming..He had to help me in the house .I think my sugar bottomed out.I ate a couple bites of a sweet apple and felt better.Very scary.

Are you taking potassium? If not, it will really help you feel better while on P2. I take 3/day, 99mg capsules.

Healthy and Happy · 10-10-2010, 05:00 AM

Good morning ladies! Ugggh, I'm up way too early for a Sunday!

Yesterday was supposed to be my first VLCD day off the hhcg, but after 3 wks of the same menu I was really ready to expand my variety. So I have to admit my menu was more P3/little P4 than P2. :blush: I'm up .2 this morning, which puts me exactly at 185. Now I'm going to work at stabilizing at 185, that will make me extremely happy if I can stabilize there until my next round.

Spider_Lily · 10-10-2010, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by thin in 2010

Are you taking potassium? If not, it will really help you feel better while on P2. I take 3/day, 99mg capsules.

Yes Thin I take one a day will up it and see if that help's.No loss today either.

And no cheat's.

torister · 10-10-2010, 06:04 AM

R2P2 Loading day 1!! Woohoo! Looking forward to my 2nd round. Have a great Sunday everyone.

wishbone · 10-10-2010, 06:07 AM

I just posted in my journal...if it's one thing I can do well...IT IS LOAD.

I gained 10.8 pounds in 2 loading days. Thank the lord that's over with!!!!

I will start VLCD1 weighing 193.6. This is R3P2 for me....and I am hoping it is my final round.

Today shall be chicken, cucumbers, apple, melba for lunch. And the thought of eating right now gags me. Hopefully, by lunch time it will be better.

JAN

torister · 10-10-2010, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wishbone

I just posted in my journal...if it's one thing I can do well...IT IS LOAD.

I gained 10.8 pounds in 2 loading days. Thank the lord that's over with!!!!

I will start VLCD1 weighing 193.6. This is R3P2 for me....and I am hoping it is my final round.

Today shall be chicken, cucumbers, apple, melba for lunch. And the thought of eating right now gags me. Hopefully, by lunch time it will be better.

JAN

Best of luck Jan!!!!!!!

principessa54 · 10-10-2010, 07:18 AM

Good morning ladies. Thin, I too am up too early for a Sunday. My bf got me up at 5:30!

Good luck to you Torister and Jan. You will do fabulous.

I am down .8 this morning. I am doing well this round if I do say so.

My daily losses have been 2.23. Last night I almost bought a package of sf chocolates. I had them in my hand and asked myself what will be better these chocolates or what the numbers say on the scale tomorrow. So needless to say I put them back. Boy am I glad.

catr31 · 10-10-2010, 08:43 AM

Good morning everyone. I just love coming here and seeing how great everyone is doing.

I haven't checked in for a few days but happy to report that I have lost another 1.6 lbs. That brings me to 147, just two pounds away from my mini goal for this round. I will be on the drops through wed and then thurs and fri will be my two day vlc w/o the drops.

I am so looking forward to starting p3 on Saturday because even though I'm not hungry, I am getting really bored with p2 foods. I am looking forward to having some salad dressing, and cheese. The hard part will be adding things back in slowly.

droy · 10-10-2010, 08:47 AM

Ok ladies - no loss today really so I am moving on to P3 after my 61 day P2 with 53 injections. I will let you know how stabilizing goes!

Went to Costco and PCC and got some P3 friendly items that I'm excited to try (slowly of course!)

Chouter · 10-10-2010, 08:49 AM

Good morning! Well, I went out with my coworkers after work yesterday to a farewell dinner for one of our veterinarians, and I indulged in two glasses of wine. For dinner, while everyone else had big ol' burgers and french fries, I ordered a small grilled chicken breast and sliced tomatoes. They cut it up and put it on a really small plate, and the tomatoes on a separate small plate, like I was a child.

I didn't care. I enjoyed myself and felt I did well considering how bad it could have been. This morning, I am up .1.

R1P3D21 - 164
R2Load1 - 167.1 (+3.1)
R2Load2 - 169.7 (+2.6)
R2P2VLCD1 - 168.1 (-1.6)
R2P2VLCD2 - 165.2 (-2.9)
R2P2VLCD3 - 163.8 (-1.4)
R2P2VLCD4 - 163 (-.8)
R2P2VLCD5 - 161.9 (-1.1)
R2P2VLCD6 - 160.9 (-1.0)
R2P2VLCD7 - 159.5 (-1.4)
R2P2VLCD8 - 159.6 (+0.1)

KOO · 10-10-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chouter

Good morning! Well, I went out with my coworkers after work yesterday to a farewell dinner for one of our veterinarians, and I indulged in two glasses of wine. For dinner, while everyone else had big ol' burgers and french fries, I ordered a small grilled chicken breast and sliced tomatoes. They cut it up and put it on a really small plate, and the tomatoes on a separate small plate, like I was a child.

I didn't care. I enjoyed myself and felt I did well considering how bad it could have been. This morning, I am up .1.

R1P3D21 - 164
R2Load1 - 167.1 (+3.1)
R2Load2 - 169.7 (+2.6)
R2P2VLCD1 - 168.1 (-1.6)
R2P2VLCD2 - 165.2 (-2.9)
R2P2VLCD3 - 163.8 (-1.4)
R2P2VLCD4 - 163 (-.8)
R2P2VLCD5 - 161.9 (-1.1)
R2P2VLCD6 - 160.9 (-1.0)
R2P2VLCD7 - 159.5 (-1.4)
R2P2VLCD8 - 159.6 (+0.1)

I'd say it well worth that +.1, if you went and peed once that would be gone. Glad you enjoyed yourself with no harm done.

KOO · 10-10-2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider_Lily

Yes Thin I take one a day will up it and see if that help's.No loss today either.

And no cheat's.

Take 3 or at least 2, it does help.

KOO · 10-10-2010, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by torister

R2P2 Loading day 1!! Woohoo! Looking forward to my 2nd round. Have a great Sunday everyone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishbone

I just posted in my journal...if it's one thing I can do well...IT IS LOAD.

I gained 10.8 pounds in 2 loading days. Thank the lord that's over with!!!!

I will start VLCD1 weighing 193.6. This is R3P2 for me....and I am hoping it is my final round.

Today shall be chicken, cucumbers, apple, melba for lunch. And the thought of eating right now gags me. Hopefully, by lunch time it will be better.

JAN

Good luck on both your restarts! Happy releasing!

10-09-2010, 10:18 AM	#332
2B Me Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 9,945 Gallery: 2B Me WOE: HCG (tried it, liked it, should do it again) Start Date: Need to get started again on some plan.	Good morning everyone! I've been skimming and trying to learn who's who. Stacy - congrats on the 30lb club. I like your new photo. You're rocking those white jeans!! I'm gonna get me a pair when I've dropped a bunch more. Emi - How often are you doing the drops or are you on shots? I've read that doing fewer drops more times per day can help with hunger. I started doing seven 3x/day, but then I tried six 6x/day, but now I've found it hard to get all six doses in. Droy - I'm afraid of stopping P2, but I have weeks still before I have to. Do you think you are dropping now cuz you changed any part of your diet? Peggy - congrats on the P4 success. It's encouraging news!! PMartin - I was afraid of the scale going up today for me too. I finished TOM last week, but have two or three days of food in me still and I don't care for that. I was happy it dropped 1.1. Today I'm going to eat one of the apples. I haven't had an apple in a day or two. I hope that helps. I'm a bit afraid of them stalling me and can't see eating two per day. Don't let the scale discourage you. It will move. My scale was the same for three days, but even though I was afraid it would go up today, I was pleased to see it go down 1.1. I'm down a total of 10.6 in just under 3wks. I didn't start HCG till I had lost 5 on plain LC and was not about to load. I've really seen a lot of inches leave my mid-section. I didn't take pics or measure before, but I have lots of photos and somewhere I have measurements from the past that should work. Anyone ever feel as if you are losing muscle? I fear that eating so little is risky even though the HCG is to tell your body to release bad stored fat. I had to walk up nearly three flights of stairs last weekend and I could really feel the drain on my leg muscles. __________________ MaryC ~ Only I can do this for me. LC:20SEP10 @ 227.4, HHCG start 26SEP10~140s goal Pre HCG:227.4/No load:R1P2(- 6.8:Wk1)(-1.4:wk2)(TOT:-11.1)(-5.7:wk 4~wk5=off, Break)Low=211.5 07NOV11=R2D1: 219.8 D2:218.0 D3:xxx.x D4: xxx.x D5:xxx.x D6:xxx.x D7:xxx.x loss: -5.0 My Journal: http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/we...e-journal.html Last edited by 2B Me; 10-09-2010 at 10:37 AM..

10-10-2010, 07:18 AM	#354
principessa54 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,492 Gallery: principessa54 Stats: R1D3; 213/202/180 WOE: hhcg my way Start Date: August 2010	Good morning ladies. Thin, I too am up too early for a Sunday. My bf got me up at 5:30! Good luck to you Torister and Jan. You will do fabulous. I am down .8 this morning. I am doing well this round if I do say so. My daily losses have been 2.23. Last night I almost bought a package of sf chocolates. I had them in my hand and asked myself what will be better these chocolates or what the numbers say on the scale tomorrow. So needless to say I put them back. Boy am I glad. __________________ Angela

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10-09-2010, 10:14 AM	#331
Mindfulness Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: MO Posts: 820 Gallery: Mindfulness Stats: 195.6/140/140 F,38yo, 5'4" WOE: hhcg Start Date: 07/23/2010	[QUOTE=Chouter;13976254] Down this morning 1.4 lbs! I am now in a new decade, Hel-looooooooo 150s! QUOTE] How exciting! Great job!!!

10-09-2010, 10:20 AM	#333
droy Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: WA Posts: 368 Gallery: droy Stats: 178.6/138.6/135 R2P3 WOE: hCG injections Start Date: 8/10/10	2B me - I just ended TOM so I assume that is why. Nothing else is different and when TOM came I stalled for 3 days so I think I am just playig catch up which is why I want to take advantage of these few days and not stop.

10-09-2010, 10:45 AM	#338
Hope2Be2010 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 383 Gallery: Hope2Be2010 Stats: 256/-62/160 WOE: HCG Start Date: 01/02/2011	Thanks for the help ladies! I will eliminate the cottage cheese and see what happens.

10-09-2010, 12:46 PM	#339
pmartin6618 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 322 Gallery: pmartin6618 Stats: 293.4/282/140 (or 130) WOE: low carb/Atkins/etc./Induction long-term Start Date: 06/01/12 lowcarb (20-net CARBS DAILY) st.wt.290	I DID IT!!!!!... I STUCK TO PROTOCOL AND FINALLY AFTER 3-DAYS I have loss again.... today I'm down another 1.8-lbs. breaking my stall since Tuesday....... This morning I weighed in 248.2, but I didn't want to believe it... so I just weighed again... 6-hours later.. and it's still 248.2... so it's reallllllll.... the scale moved downward.... Thank goodness... now I can continue on... but be more prepared to deal with stall and fluctuations... So since 9/27/10 - 10/9/10 I have lost a total of 14.4-lbs. in a total of 12 full days. Hhcg is working.. and I am losing these pounds. Hoping everyone else is also losing.

10-09-2010, 04:02 PM	#345
hollydaybarbie Junior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2 Gallery: hollydaybarbie Stats: 339.8/322.4/175 WOE: dr.simeons hcg diet Start Date: Sept. 30,2010	ive just started hcg 9 days ago. i have lost 16 lbs. i am feeling good, but also cold and cant understand why. i am always roasting. i live in AZ, no reason to be cold.

10-09-2010, 05:57 PM	#347
Spider_Lily Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,153 Gallery: Spider_Lily	I know now why they say no exercise in phase 2.I went out today working in my yard.Then when hubby got home we worked moving a fence for our horse. I almost passed out I could feel it coming..He had to help me in the house .I think my sugar bottomed out.I ate a couple bites of a sweet apple and felt better.Very scary.

10-10-2010, 05:00 AM	#349
Healthy and Happy Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,974 Gallery: Healthy and Happy WOE: VSG 75 lbs. down and expecting baby 6/2013! :)	Good morning ladies! Ugggh, I'm up way too early for a Sunday! Yesterday was supposed to be my first VLCD day off the hhcg, but after 3 wks of the same menu I was really ready to expand my variety. So I have to admit my menu was more P3/little P4 than P2. :blush: I'm up .2 this morning, which puts me exactly at 185. Now I'm going to work at stabilizing at 185, that will make me extremely happy if I can stabilize there until my next round.

10-10-2010, 06:04 AM	#351
torister Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,345 Gallery: torister	R2P2 Loading day 1!! Woohoo! Looking forward to my 2nd round. Have a great Sunday everyone.

10-10-2010, 06:07 AM	#352
wishbone Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,381 Gallery: wishbone Stats: 260/158/160 WOE: low carb my weigh	I just posted in my journal...if it's one thing I can do well...IT IS LOAD. I gained 10.8 pounds in 2 loading days. Thank the lord that's over with!!!! I will start VLCD1 weighing 193.6. This is R3P2 for me....and I am hoping it is my final round. Today shall be chicken, cucumbers, apple, melba for lunch. And the thought of eating right now gags me. Hopefully, by lunch time it will be better. JAN

10-10-2010, 08:43 AM	#355
catr31 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,818 Gallery: catr31 Stats: 205/166/145 WOE: Low Carb	Good morning everyone. I just love coming here and seeing how great everyone is doing. I haven't checked in for a few days but happy to report that I have lost another 1.6 lbs. That brings me to 147, just two pounds away from my mini goal for this round. I will be on the drops through wed and then thurs and fri will be my two day vlc w/o the drops. I am so looking forward to starting p3 on Saturday because even though I'm not hungry, I am getting really bored with p2 foods. I am looking forward to having some salad dressing, and cheese. The hard part will be adding things back in slowly.

10-10-2010, 08:47 AM	#356
droy Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: WA Posts: 368 Gallery: droy Stats: 178.6/138.6/135 R2P3 WOE: hCG injections Start Date: 8/10/10	Ok ladies - no loss today really so I am moving on to P3 after my 61 day P2 with 53 injections. I will let you know how stabilizing goes! Went to Costco and PCC and got some P3 friendly items that I'm excited to try (slowly of course!)

10-10-2010, 08:49 AM	#357
Chouter Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East of Seattle, WA Posts: 762 Gallery: Chouter Stats: 199.6/162.6/152 WOE: HCG Start Date: 8/6/10	Good morning! Well, I went out with my coworkers after work yesterday to a farewell dinner for one of our veterinarians, and I indulged in two glasses of wine. For dinner, while everyone else had big ol' burgers and french fries, I ordered a small grilled chicken breast and sliced tomatoes. They cut it up and put it on a really small plate, and the tomatoes on a separate small plate, like I was a child. I didn't care. I enjoyed myself and felt I did well considering how bad it could have been. This morning, I am up .1. R1P3D21 - 164 R2Load1 - 167.1 (+3.1) R2Load2 - 169.7 (+2.6) R2P2VLCD1 - 168.1 (-1.6) R2P2VLCD2 - 165.2 (-2.9) R2P2VLCD3 - 163.8 (-1.4) R2P2VLCD4 - 163 (-.8) R2P2VLCD5 - 161.9 (-1.1) R2P2VLCD6 - 160.9 (-1.0) R2P2VLCD7 - 159.5 (-1.4) R2P2VLCD8 - 159.6 (+0.1)