HCG - Non Simeon's Protocol

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by obraxton

Hey ladies!!!! Hope your mornings are going good!
I didn't have a loss or gain this morning but was a lil bloated so took some lax tea. However my pants feel looser this morning around the middle anyway?

oh that is a great sign!!!. jelly belly ... means fat loss is comin!!!

[12yrslater]

Why am I the only one who doesn't see Obraxton's posts?!?!? You guys playin' us some minds games?

[nifer6]

Originally Posted by chantyl03

Ok my dear rebels, watch this:


yesterday i ate:
b: apple and sunflower butter
l: taco salad with steak at chipotle
s: apple sunflower butter
d: 1 slice of 3 meat pizza, 4 bacon cheesesticks, (both smothered in that garlic sauce) and 4 slices of cinnapie from papa johns.

and this morning i'm DOWN .6!

woot woot!

I am eating only healthy on plan p3 foods today, of course but man oh man, pizza AND a loss!

Are you dosing with HCG and eating this menu, or are you in P3?

[Kocobear]

There was a bon voyage party today in my office for one of our employees (retirement party) and they had cake. I got a piece, but could only take two bites before I had enough. Definitely not the worth the calories for my apple day. Now, if it had come tomorrow or yesterday, it would've been over!! All in all, I believe I only had about 100 calories (maybe not that much in two bites).

YES!! Just found out it's only about 40 calories!! Woohoo!

[Dedicated]

Hey Blue Monday!!! Welcome!!

Dessa's posts take a while to come up it's not you~

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by Kocobear

There was a bon voyage party today in my office for one of our employees (retirement party) and they had cake. I got a piece, but could only take two bites before I had enough. Definitely not the worth the calories for my apple day. Now, if it had come tomorrow or yesterday, it would've been over!! All in all, I believe I only had about 100 calories (maybe not that much in two bites).

YES!! Just found out it's only about 40 calories!! Woohoo!

YOU DID GOOD!!!....

[Tyl]

Originally Posted by nifer6

Are you dosing with HCG and eating this menu, or are you in P3?

i'm dosing this round and generally eating low carb, sorta doing calorie cycling.

yesterday's dinner was a treat, and it was an up day as far as cals were concerned.

[Kocobear]

Originally Posted by chantyl03

i'm dosing this round and generally eating low carb, sorta doing calorie cycling.

yesterday's dinner was a treat, and it was an up day as far as cals were concerned.

Hey Chan!! Do you have a particular pattern you follow when cycling? Like up to 2000 cals one day and down to 800 the next day or do you clump your days?

[Tyl]

Originally Posted by Kocobear

Hey Chan!! Do you have a particular pattern you follow when cycling? Like up to 2000 cals one day and down to 800 the next day or do you clump your days?

i wish, i saved the file that suggested how one might go about it, but i am just kinda doing my own thing. Most days i keep it around 800 and 2 or 3 times a week i endulge.

[tempted_by_food]

I can post the file here if you guys want its pretty long though lol

[Meek75]

Originally Posted by chantyl03

i wish, i saved the file that suggested how one might go about it, but i am just kinda doing my own thing. Most days i keep it around 800 and 2 or 3 times a week i endulge.

Just curious. How much have you lost thus far?

[Meek75]

Originally Posted by tempted_by_food

I can post the file here if you guys want its pretty long though lol

Can you PM me the info, friend? Lol. Thanks.

[cookie34]

Hi rebels!! Glad I found this thread.. Just took a quick glance thru this so far.. Awesome photos Deb and Gracie! You are both doing great. What an inspiration to me.

I originally wanted to do the calorie cycling but it hasn't worked out like that so far. I haven't been keeping track of my calories so I really have no idea how many I am having. I hate weighing everything.. If I stop losing, I will have to do a better job of having some low cal P2 days. But I am not worrying about it until it happens.

[Snookie68]

Hi ya Rebels!
This is very very interesting... Just started round 2 a few days ago. I didnt give up any lotion or my hair stuff last round and lost pretty well (20 lbs in 33 days.) Off to read more!

[LosingKitty]

Originally Posted by tempted_by_food

I can post the file here if you guys want its pretty long though lol

I would like to see it. If you dont want to post it I could PM you my email address. I bet there are other people who would like to see it here though, the rest can scroll down!!

Thanks for the well wishes- I still feel like crap, 2 days now I've had to talk myself out of calling in sick. Talked myself into a whole pint of Ice Cream for my sore throat too.

I think I need to stop listening to ME!! I'm a bad influence.

[shari]

Good morning ladies..quite busy yesterday..miss chatting with you all. I'll have to go back and see all the good convo I missed but want to wish everyone a great day and continue doing YOU!

[Deb294evr]

Morning all!.. well I put in my journal that I only had a .2 loss this morning, but after further review and a bathroom break, it actually was a .8 loss.. I tell you what, I ATE TOO MUCH last night.. and I must discipline myself on those days when I am not hungry. I ended up eating over 1900 cals yesterday when I clearly was not needing them.....

Kandi, thank you! you don't HAVE to count calories, I do it because I am amazed sometimes how many cals are in the foods I have... or so few... although I have been counting cals since I was 12 or 13..... Whatever works for YOU, works!

TBF- I would love the see the file too.. if you can post it in here?

Snookie.... I can't help but laugh when I see your username....welcome!!!! What a fantastic loss!!!! with lotion too....

Sunny you sound like ME... I think we both have the same bad influence.. ourselves.... hang in there girl, and when your inner self is ready to straighten up! things will get rolling! .. ( I am talking to myself too!)

Shari... we miss you too!!!!.. that darn work does get in the way for sure!!

[tempted_by_food]

Ok I will paste this below I got this of another site, REMEMBER this was an experiement by Dakota which worked very well for her and she wanted to share her findings with other like minded people.....

I am not a doctor nor do I advocate nor claim that everyone will have the same results as I while developing this diet. Please check with your own doctor before attempting to follow any diet, including this one. I am merely sharing my experience and what has worked for me. We are all different. I formulated this diet by research of my own as well as using myself as the guinea pig – there are no sponsored test results or clinical trials available. Results may vary by individual.
Here is how Calorie Switching works.

The steps below help you figure your 3 calorie ranges for weight loss and maintenance on this program.

You will be figuring your High, Mid and Low ranges for calorie switching.

1. What you need to do is figure out your ideal body weight goal. For me, mine is 130 lbs. Next you need to determine your caloric needs to maintain that weight. Simply multiply 14 (sedentary lifestyle) or 15 - 16 (if you are moderately active or have an exercise program) x your goal weight = Total maintenance caloric needs.
Looks like this 14 x 130 (weight) = 1820.

For me, mine is 1820 (I round down but if the number if 50 or above round up) to 1800. Then you take those calories and subtract 300. This number will be the calories you need to use as your HIGH Range.

1800 (goal weight calories) – 300 = 1500 (my calorie high range for example)

2. Next you need to figure your mid-range calories. Simply subtract 500 calories from your High Range.

1500 – 500 = 1000 (my Mid Range)

3. Last you will have to figure your low range – simply subtract another 500.
1000 (mid range) – 500 = 500 (low range)***

***Important: Do not go lower than 500 calories on any day at all – even if your low range is lower. If its 438 you do 500.. do not go lower. You cannot nourish your body properly – especially if you are exercising.

So at this time I have ranges – that’s it:

High – 1500
Mid – 1000
Low – 500

These are the values I’ll be using to switch calorie intake for my days on the Calorie Switching diet.

Here is how you apply the caloric values to your diet each week – and each week varies to keep the metabolism switching speeds as well. Still very simple, and when you start you’ll see why.

But first lets talk about the foods and supplements.

PART II - Foods and Supplements

It’s always advisable to take a multivitamin when dieting. You are the best judge of that, and need to see your doctor if you have deficiencies before starting any diet. I take a multivitamin anyway.

Foods should be limited to low glycemic foods, proteins and fibrous veggies.
No starches and sugars should be taken while on the diet, unless you have a medical condition that requires it. Should you add a sugar or starch to your diet that day, you MUST count the calories contained in it to your daily intake. If you want quicker weight loss its important to remember that limiting starches and sugars does that exactly. Even if you add a little bit of sugar or starch – especially if your are carb sensitive - you can affect your weight loss. Remember we are talking about refined sugar and starches. On your high days you can add any starch and sugar as long as it’s in the form of whole grains, legumes, veggies and fruits. Whole foods are best.

All food must be weighed and calories calculated. Try to space out your food for optimum energy and metabolism fat burning. As long as you measure what you eat you will have a better idea of just how much your body for fuel. Always eat at least 2 servings of protein per day – usually about 3.5 – 4 ounces each serving. Protein is important to maintain proper body functions. To figure out how many grams of protein you need per day, just ½ your goal weight, and that is what you require to maintain your body every day. For me, I want to weigh 130 – I need 65 grams of protein per day at minimum. If you work out you need to up that number a little bit. There are formulas all over the web for that. Use that as a rule of thumb as to how you are going to divide up your calories everyday.

IMPORTANT: GET A GOOD KITCHEN SCALE – WEIGH EVERYTHING AFTER COOKING. Of course weigh raw foods too that you are eating raw!!!!!!!

Examples of good foods for your low and mid days:

MEAT (protein) - Any lean meat – obvious fat removed

Fish: Any fish

Vegetables (look for low carb veggies) - (no peas or corn – only on High Range days)

Fruits:
Tomatoes
Strawberries
Raspberries
Apples – this is the higher of the two but has a lot of advantages – limit to 1 per day.

Dairy – use freely but remember you need to count it, and it can add up quickly – especially on low range days. Eggs are great for breakfast.

Drinks: Any low calorie sodas, teas, coffee, water (drink at least 8 glasses of water per day) – if you drink something that has calories – COUNT IT – even if its only 5 calories…you’ll be surprised how fast that all adds up. You’re best friend will be your calorie journal when you look back and see what you have done wrong or what you did right!

Portions:

Meat – 3.5 – 5 ounces
Veggies: Unlimited - count calories
Fruits: Unlimited – count calories
Grains: limit to 2 onces per day (not recommended for low days)….except on High days – just count calories

On high days – eat at your own discretion.

PART III – How to do the Weeks

You have some versatility on this diet. You have to do what works best for you. Now you know you can eat whatever you want on this diet as long as you WEIGH and COUNT it and you stick to the limits. Here is an example of how I do my weeks:

Start – Start days are days were you eat as much as you want for 2 days. I would not go over 2000 calories, but that’s just me. This is a time that you will allow yourself many of the starches and sugars you will not be getting while you are Calorie Switching. Pizza, a burger on a white bun, etc….whatever you wish…just have a ball. Or be conscientious and eat more of the good food you are already comfortable with on your previous food plan. Its up to you. No rules. Your way. 2 days only.

Week 1: VLCD (I take an hcg supplement to curb my appetite – some take hoodia, others visit their medical doctor and take a prescription of something – its up to you and your willpower).

Calories: Calorie Switching Body Buster Week – all vlcd everyday…optional
Day 1 - 500
Day 2 – 500
Day 3 – 500
Day 4 – 500
Day 5 – 500
Day 6 – 500
Day 7 – 500

If you prefer and you only have less than 20 lbs to lose – you can start with Week 2. But no need to use Start days (loading food for capacity for 2 days).

Week 2: Calorie Switching starts – Switch High - See the pattern? High – Low, Low – Mid – Low - High (3 low days) (2 high days) (2 mid days)

Day 1 – 1500
Day 2 – 500
Day 3 – 500
Day 4 – 1000
Day 5 - 500
Day 6 – 1500
Day 7 – 1000

Week 3: Switch Low Week - Low, Low, Low, High, Low, Low, Low (6 low days) (1 High day) (1 Mid Days)

Day 1 – 500
Day 2 – 500
Day 3 – 500
Day 4 – 1500
Day 5 – 500
Day 6 – 500
Day 7 – 500

Week 4: Switch Mid Week - (mid, mid, low, low, low, high, low) (4 low days) (2 mid days) (1 high)

Day 1 – 1000
Day 2 – 1000
Day 3 – 500
Day 4 - 500
Day 5 – 500
Day 6 – 1500
Day 7 – 500

Repeat: Switch Low Week – to - Switch High Week – to Switch Mid Week - do not repeat VLCD week – that is for induction only.

PART IV – Maintenance….now you have reached your goal…to keep your weight stable after you are done losing you need to switch again your caloric intake per day. Since you’ve been eating low calories to lose weight you will need to give your body a chance to get used to eating your maintenance calories. For me, 1800 per day. So while I don’t want to shock my body and start eating that everyday, I’ll ease it in. Here’s how:

Substitute for where you ate the 500 calories before to lose weight, with the caloric intake for your goal weight calories (GWC) (for me 1800). So after reaching goal weight, use Switch High Week:

High – GWC – GWC – GWC - High (3 GWC days) (2 high days) (2 mid days)

Day 1 – 1500
Day 2 – 1800
Day 3 – 1800
Day 4 – 1000
Day 5 - 1800
Day 6 – 1500
Day 7 – 1000

Eventually you will ease off to everyday is 1800 calorie days. If you lose weight, increase calories on the 1000-calorie days to 1500 calories, and it would look like this:

Day 1 – 1500
Day 2 – 1800
Day 3 – 1800
Day 4 – 1500
Day 5 - 1800
Day 6 – 1500
Day 7 – 1500

If you gain weight, just cut back on the amount of days you are on 1800 calories. You will be trying to figure out how to set your weight – as not every formula will work for everyone. You may need to eat 1700 calories a day to maintain…but by the time you get to that point, calorie switching would have taught you what works for you and what doesn’t.

PART IV – In a Nutshell

Now you know how to Calorie Switch. Once you try it you’ll be surprised what you learn about your body, your mind and how much you really did eat.

Don’t be surprised that while one week you’ll drop 5-6 pounds and then on another you’ll drop only 2 or 3, or you won’t at all…you have to understand that by switching with these weeks and the days of the weeks your caloric intake, you are keep your body nourished as well as burning the extra fat stores. You are not depleting valuable proteins from inside your own body and you are also learning how to eat to maintain a healthy body. The best part is that you are not starving yourself. You can enjoy a dinner out with family, a cocktail or a low carb beer or two, eat a piece of birthday cake on your Dad’s birthday or your little girl’s or your own!

Dieting doesn’t have to be suffering. It’s about education, health and commingling the mind and the body to have the same goal. Remember it’s all about retraining your eye for portions, and changing your palate so that you appreciate better foods for optimum health. That is the key to long-term weight loss. Hating food or fearing it is not the answer….food didn’t make you fat, bad choices and too much of it did.

I lost 22 lbs in 44 days. Don’t weigh yourself everyday….I did only for the sake of figuring this out. If it goes up don’t worry, when you increase calories, you increase bulk and water, you are eating low enough calories to maintain WEIGHT LOSS - it will all work itself out in the next few days…some days I lost fast, others it was steady others fluctuated. If you remember you aren’t have to suffering for your weight loss, it makes it better to deal with. Unlike other diets, you are still in control of what you put in your mouth. You can stay on a very low calorie diet for 3 days at most and then reward yourself with eating a lot more at least once to three times per week. You’ll be surprised how those days make you feel, and when you realize that your high days, would have been low days for you before you started this diet, where you’d be starving eating 1500 calories per day. But now after being on th diet you just can’t eat that much food anymore. Wow, that is freedom.

Happy Dieting, and Switch Up those calories with Calorie Switching.

[Deb294evr]

THANK YOU!!! I'll read the info at work......oops...

[Dedicated]

Good Morning!!

Stayed the same this morning but I ate a complete meal late last night so not mad....busy day today Enjoy yours!

[ColleenMA66]

Thanks....that looks very interesting indeed! I have to say my low day would be 800 cal and that's prob what I was eating when I was on protocol the first round so it sounds like it makes sense to me.

I think I'll be starting that next week. I'll finish up this week keeping on target but I do so love having a plan to follow....must be the Virgo in me.

[tempted_by_food]

Deb...Happy reading, what a nice job you have

Dedicated...way to go you got to enjoy your meal without a gain, thats a result

[tempted_by_food]

I havent got a plan in place as yet as am going on vacation in less that 2 weeks and will be gobbling carbs non stop there once am back though I am beginning I have my drops here waiting and cant wait to start

[LosingKitty]

Thanks for posting that Tempted!

I think she makes a lot of sense, I was trying to figure something like that out myself but I was going by a deficit from my current weight RMR. It makes more sense to use your goal weight and not have to refigure it constantly.

So for a goal weight of 145 I came up with 1700 high days, 1200 mid days and 700 low days- totally do-able! I agree with how she mixes them up too. Very cool!!

[Deb294evr]

Dedicated.. that is wonderful to be able to eat a full meal and not gain.. love that!!

Colleen... you are too funny... the VIRGO in me is not following her Virgo path... I should be neat and orderly but somehow I think she forgot me upon my birth... Good luck! I can't wait to see how you do.

TBF- My job is as an accountant so we are always online... they don't have to know what I am looking at... ( bye bye history ) ... I actually DO work, in between postings...

Thanks again, I look forward to checking this out...

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by LosingKitty

Thanks for posting that Tempted!

I think she makes a lot of sense, I was trying to figure something like that out myself but I was going by a deficit from my current weight RMR. It makes more sense to use your goal weight and not have to refigure it constantly.

So for a goal weight of 145 I came up with 1700 high days, 1200 mid days and 700 low days- totally do-able! I agree with how she mixes them up too. Very cool!!

OOOO Sunny has a plan!! I love that! It does seem very doable... go girl!!

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by tempted_by_food

I havent got a plan in place as yet as am going on vacation in less that 2 weeks and will be gobbling carbs non stop there once am back though I am beginning I have my drops here waiting and cant wait to start

You just have some fun!! looks like you have earned it! What a nice loss you have had! JEALOUS!! Come back ready to roll.. sounds like a plan!

[susique333]

TEMPTED BY FOOD: Thank you for the calorie switching post! It is now on my desk top. Ordering my HHCG drops tomorrow, Ive decided to follow this experiment! Im so excited!

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by susique333

TEMPTED BY FOOD: Thank you for the calorie switching post! It is now on my desk top. Ordering my HHCG drops tomorrow, Ive decided to follow this experiment! Im so excited!

Very interested in how you do!!...

[12yrslater]

Morning Rebels!!!

Ok, so this is how my day went (not counting calories just yet. Came from P2 and I don't want to go there just yet). So I will post what I ate (previous day) and my loss for the day..

So yesterday I ate this while dosing:

B - Big (huge) coffee cup with HWC and splenda
L - Grilled chicken breast cut up and thrown into broth portion of chicken noodle soup (no noodles for but the soup was in fact fatty! )
D - 3 meatballs (dh made w/o breading). He fried 'em up then made a sauce for them. I also had 6 asparagus stalks fried in butter w/garlic salt over them.

My meals were definitely NOT LOW CALORIE but they were 100% low carb.

This morning I woke up to a .5 lb loss!!!