HCG - Non Simeon's Protocol - Page 13

12yrslater · 10-04-2010, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cookie34

When I read this my brain stopped functioning.. I didn't read the rest of the sentence. I just thought, what dang month is it? I thought I had lost a month somewhere.

I don't know if you posted what kind of surgery you're having or not.. if so, I missed it. My thoughts will be with you though!

I didn't know what a b&m was either.. only one image was stuck in my mind and it was definitly NOT a place where I would want to shop!

You made me LAUGH OUT LOUD!!!!!

Thanks for the thoughts!

I'm wishing you luck on this round!

Deb294evr · 10-04-2010, 09:35 AM

Kandi you crack me up!!..

Violet Skye... I love the way you put it! Excellent! I hope you keep on posting here, I can tell you are going to be full of interesting thoughts and ideas!

FatFatnomore · 10-04-2010, 10:06 AM

Omg I didn't even know this thread existed but I love it. I think you guys are hilarious! I haven't gone rogue yet but I'd love to if it means I can have coffee with cream and still lose!!!!!

I use the HCG spray and it says no coffee. Blah! I can skip the food with ease but giving up coffee with heavy cream is torture. Are any of you using my fat cure?

Deb294evr · 10-04-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FatFatnomore

Omg I didn't even know this thread existed but I love it. I think you guys are hilarious! I haven't gone rogue yet but I'd love to if it means I can have coffee with cream and still lose!!!!!

I use the HCG spray and it says no coffee. Blah! I can skip the food with ease but giving up coffee with heavy cream is torture. Are any of you using my fat cure?

I don't but I can't imagine why that would be much different than any other HHCG drops. Why is it special enough that it does not allow coffee?...

I'm really only asking myself that question, because I am sure nobody really knows...

I will say that I have had coffee WITH cream and I have had coffee without cream, also NO COFFEE some days during my P2, and it made no difference at all... so up to you! I personally love my creamy coffee!!...

By the way, WELCOME TO OUR WORLD!!

FatFatnomore · 10-04-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Deb294evr

I don't but I can't imagine why that would be much different than any other HHCG drops. Why is it special enough that it does not allow coffee?...

I'm really only asking myself that question, because I am sure nobody really know...

I will say that I have had coffee WITH cream and I have had coffee without cream, also NO COFFEE some days during my P2, and it made no difference at all... so up to you! I personally love my creamy coffee!!...

By the way, WELCOME TO OUR WORLD!!

Hahaha! I actually ask myself that same question "what's so special about THIS brand of hhcg that makes coffee equal to voldemort?" as I belligerently skip my coffee and make everyone around me miserable.

I'm definitely going to add it back into my diet. And I think on some days I'll allow myself a whole piece of chicken instead of just a quarter of a piece.

Deb294evr · 10-04-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by FatFatnomore

Hahaha! I actually ask myself that same question "what's so special about THIS brand of hhcg that makes coffee equal to voldemort?" as I belligerently skip my coffee and make everyone around me miserable.

I'm definitely going to add it back into my diet. And I think on some days I'll allow myself a whole piece of chicken instead of just a quarter of a piece.

OH GOSH I LOVE IT!!.. you will fit right in here....

Selahgal · 10-04-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FatFatnomore

And I think on some days I'll allow myself a whole piece of chicken instead of just a quarter of a piece.

I eat chicken THIGHS!!! Honestly I could sit down and eat an entire roasted chicken ... dripping with fat & juice ... and ... oh goodness!!!!!

12yrslater · 10-04-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Selahgal

I eat chicken THIGHS!!! Honestly I could sit down and eat an entire roasted chicken ... dripping with fat & juice ... and ... oh goodness!!!!!

you said an entire roasted chicken dripping with fat and juice! *DROOL* I knew I loved you for a reason

12yrslater · 10-04-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Selahgal

he looks too cute to eat

Deb294evr · 10-04-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kimberlybimberly

Just sticking my nose in here...

My testerone is tested regularly. When I am on rX hCG it goes through the roof. It goes back down during P3 and P4 (which, um sorry, I do by the book).

ETA: I am a woman.

Very interesting! and don't be sorry, by the book works too!!

I wonder if this only happens with RX? or does it happen with both, I'll have to do some more reading..

mistydisa · 10-04-2010, 11:27 AM

I asked this on the main hcg forum, too:

Does the body ever build up an immunity to hhcg, or, theoretically speaking, could one stay on it forever?

Deb294evr · 10-04-2010, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistydisa

I asked this on the main hcg thread, too:

Does the body ever build up an immunity to hhcg, or, theoretically speaking, could one stay on it forever?

My understanding is that we do not build up an immunity to hhcg. Any experts out there?

kimberlybimberly · 10-04-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Deb294evr

Very interesting! and don't be sorry, by the book works too!!

I wonder if this only happens with RX? or does it happen with both, I'll have to do some more reading..

Right, because I'm choosing to do it that way!

With regard to testosterone and rX/homeo, I don't know. Wanted to add that estrogen is also being released (from fat stores) in high amounts. Have not been tested for estrogen while on hCG so cannot document.

Deb294evr · 10-04-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kimberlybimberly

Right, because I'm choosing to do it that way!

With regard to testosterone and rX/homeo, I don't know. Wanted to add that estrogen is also being released (from fat stores) in high amounts. Have not been tested for estrogen while on hCG so cannot document.

Exactly! It is all about choices... and that is awesome...

I knew about the estrogen in fat being released, but sure did not know about the testosterone, I think that is very interesting.

Rachelocity · 10-04-2010, 11:59 AM

Since one of the things we each have is knowledge about the unique and very individual ways our bodies and metabolisms respond, this seems to be a sane and sensible approach.

A bit about me: I'm 54, female, and a recent convert to running. I walked a half-marathon in September and plan to run most of one in February (I'll take walking breaks). I'm not fast by any means, but my endurance is great, so I think I've found my niche. I've been on WW on and off for about 10 years and plan to work as a leader once I am at goal. I have 1-2 plateaus to burst through, and HCG will help me with maintaining and hopefully reshaping my apple-y midsection. I will not have a tummy tuck, because I don't think it's necessary surgery, so this is my best hope.

Deb294evr · 10-04-2010, 12:11 PM

Violet Skye

I am so impressed that you are a runner and we are the same age! The only time I seem to run is when I am chasing my 15 year old for being naughty...

so I applaud you!

What you have to say is very true! WE are all different, and must find our own path... nobody can tell us otherwise.. and if they try ... well... I'll sick the Invisible Rogue on them...

Isn't she awesome!!.... I - RO..

Best of luck with your HHCG adventure with WW, looking forward to hearing all about it!!..

obraxton · 10-04-2010, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Selahgal

I eat chicken THIGHS!!! Honestly I could sit down and eat an entire roasted chicken ... dripping with fat & juice ... and ... oh goodness!!!!!

LOL!!!!!

I'm not the only one!!!

obraxton · 10-04-2010, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

My understanding is that we do not build up an immunity to hhcg. Any experts out there?

There is an HCG physician center that has a website that clearly states that you can't build an immunity to HCG. My first round I went to 60 days. I stalled around the 40th day and pushed through by day 45 I started losing at a .5/.8lb rate.

Deb294evr · 10-04-2010, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obraxton

There is an HCG physician center that has a website that clearly states that you can't build an immunity to HCG. My first round I went to 60 days. I stalled around the 40th day and pushed through by day 45 I started losing at a .5/.8lb rate.

Thank you Dessa for letting us know this! You did GREAT!!!..

I know you have been doing this for some time now, so you have lots of good info, please share as often as you can!!

Kiley2801 · 10-04-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by obraxton

LOL!!!!!

I'm not the only one!!!

Sign me up for the "devour the entire chicken" club. mmmmmm I HAVE taken out an entire (smallish bird) at one sitting when low-carbing!!! It was delicious- and I didn't gain.

BlueMonday · 10-04-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiley2801

Sign me up for the "devour the entire chicken" club. mmmmmm I HAVE taken out an entire (smallish bird) at one sitting when low-carbing!!! It was delicious- and I didn't gain.

Now you've got me thinking about picking up a roasting chicken for my LC "splurge" day on Wed. Hopefully, I won't be tempted to eat the whole thing

Snookie68 · 10-04-2010, 02:49 PM

I`m shaking things up a bit this week...This am I ate <gasp> breakfast!!! I had an egg!

and a slice of Ezekiel bread... a bit of a twist on the 600 cal diet that was posted. I`m tracking my calories and will keep close to the 600.
I feel like I should put a white t-shirt on and roll a pack of cigarettes up in the sleeves ala James Dean <g>

2B Me · 10-04-2010, 04:47 PM

Marking my spot.

soontobeskinnysue · 10-04-2010, 05:34 PM

The reason I started thinking about the testosterone thing is because he quit taking injections about 6 months ago and started taking a supplement that is supposed to "unbind" the bound up testosterone. So we were laying in bed the other night and I was totally mad and frustrated about the 500 calories a day thing and I just totally yelled at him and told him that it wasn't fair that he is still eating as much junk and drinking all the full sugar soda as he always has and he is losing weight....and he said to me that he thought it was the "blue pill" (the supplement he takes is blue). So that is what got me started looking around the internet at testosterone deficiency and that led to other possibilities as well. Anyway, I am just going to stick with what I am doing and see where it gets me.

Susan

Deb294evr · 10-04-2010, 05:41 PM

Makes sense, and men do have it much easier usually anyway. Add in more testosterone, and it's not fair..

Good luck with your plan Susan!

petchie · 10-04-2010, 06:07 PM

OK, I read this whole thread and the journal thread. I want to see if I have this correct. Using hHCG and doing low glycemic veggies, fruits and lean meats. Do not worry about 500 calories you can go higher. Is that correct?

Do you need the first 2 load days still? I have been on Atkins for 6 months and lost 25 pounds but have stalled out the past month or so even though ketostix are medium. I normally do <20 carbs a day.

This intrigues me.

Jenmay78 · 10-04-2010, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Violet Skye

Since one of the things we each have is knowledge about the unique and very individual ways our bodies and metabolisms respond, this seems to be a sane and sensible approach.

A bit about me: I'm 54, female, and a recent convert to running. I walked a half-marathon in September and plan to run most of one in February (I'll take walking breaks). I'm not fast by any means, but my endurance is great, so I think I've found my niche. I've been on WW on and off for about 10 years and plan to work as a leader once I am at goal. I have 1-2 plateaus to burst through, and HCG will help me with maintaining and hopefully reshaping my apple-y midsection. I will not have a tummy tuck, because I don't think it's necessary surgery, so this is my best hope.

I really like the idea of doing weight watchers with HHCG. I will definitely check in on you. You should think about doing a journal. I need to keep up with mine, but with a five month old; time on the computer is limited. I am glad you found a place to be naughty

Deb294evr · 10-04-2010, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petchie

OK, I read this whole thread and the journal thread. I want to see if I have this correct. Using hHCG and doing low glycemic veggies, fruits and lean meats. Do not worry about 500 calories you can go higher. Is that correct?

Do you need the first 2 load days still? I have been on Atkins for 6 months and lost 25 pounds but have stalled out the past month or so even though ketostix are medium. I normally do <20 carbs a day.

This intrigues me.

I think everyone is doing what works for them personally. I think what you have posted here would work fine. This is why I called it my experiment, because it took a while to find what would work for my body. I also had stopped losing on Atkins.

Sounds like you have done wonderful so far! A month stall is depressing though, so I sure understand you looking at options. I'm sure others will chime in, but I want to say good luck to you on whatever you choose to do!!

I personally believe HHCG will help with most any plan, as long as we have some discipline. I would love to eat as much as I could, take the drops and lose the pounds, but it just won't happen for me.. so I chose calorie cycling.. some days very low, some mid, and one or two, high! ( weekends...lol ) I believe it will keep the body guessing and allow me to lose more than I would on straight 500 cal/days. That and I cannot stick to that small amount of food for very long.. Again, My Opinion only.

susique333 · 10-04-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Selahgal

I'll have to steal that graphic ... you don't mind do you???

LOL Its not my graphic,I just happened upon it so go ahead!

cookie34 · 10-04-2010, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatFatnomore

Omg I didn't even know this thread existed but I love it. I think you guys are hilarious! I haven't gone non protocol yet but I'd love to if it means I can have coffee with cream and still lose!!!!!

I use the HCG spray and it says no coffee. Blah! I can skip the food with ease but giving up coffee with heavy cream is torture. Are any of you using my fat cure?

Being "rogue" means you do what works for you.. no one here is going to spank you for tweaking your diet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatFatnomore

Hahaha! I actually ask myself that same question "what's so special about THIS brand of hhcg that makes coffee equal to voldemort?" as I belligerently skip my coffee and make everyone around me miserable.

I'm definitely going to add it back into my diet. And I think on some days I'll allow myself a whole piece of chicken instead of just a quarter of a piece.

Now you're gettin' all sorts of crazy up in here!

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimberlybimberly

Just sticking my nose in here...

My testerone is tested regularly. When I am on rX hCG it goes through the roof. It goes back down during P3 and P4 (which, um sorry, I do by the book).

ETA: I am a woman.

That is interesting! Thanks for sharing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

Violet Skye

I am so impressed that you are a runner and we are the same age! The only time I seem to run is when I am chasing my 15 year old for being naughty...

so I applaud you!

What you have to say is very true! WE are all different, and must find our own path... nobody can tell us otherwise.. and if they try ... well... I'll sick the Invisible Rogue on them...

Isn't she awesome!!.... I - RO..

Best of luck with your HHCG adventure with WW, looking forward to hearing all about it!!..

I love I-Ro!

Quote:

Originally Posted by obraxton

There is an HCG physician center that has a website that clearly states that you can't build an immunity to HCG. My first round I went to 60 days. I stalled around the 40th day and pushed through by day 45 I started losing at a .5/.8lb rate.

Are you refering to HCG only or is this HHCG too?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snookie68

I`m shaking things up a bit this week...This am I ate <gasp> breakfast!!! I had an egg!

and a slice of Ezekiel bread... a bit of a twist on the 600 cal diet that was posted. I`m tracking my calories and will keep close to the 600.
I feel like I should put a white t-shirt on and roll a pack of cigarettes up in the sleeves ala James Dean <g>

I might drool if you do..

10-04-2010, 11:59 AM	#375
Rachelocity Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,979 Gallery: Rachelocity WOE: No grain/no pain! Start Date: Every day I'm shuffling	Since one of the things we each have is knowledge about the unique and very individual ways our bodies and metabolisms respond, this seems to be a sane and sensible approach. A bit about me: I'm 54, female, and a recent convert to running. I walked a half-marathon in September and plan to run most of one in February (I'll take walking breaks). I'm not fast by any means, but my endurance is great, so I think I've found my niche. I've been on WW on and off for about 10 years and plan to work as a leader once I am at goal. I have 1-2 plateaus to burst through, and HCG will help me with maintaining and hopefully reshaping my apple-y midsection. I will not have a tummy tuck, because I don't think it's necessary surgery, so this is my best hope. __________________ If you don't believe in miracles, you're not being realistic!

10-04-2010, 12:11 PM	#376
Deb294evr Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 9,103 Gallery: Deb294evr Stats: 282/??? /150 WOE: Low Carb/Jillian's workouts Start Date: Jan 2013	Violet Skye I am so impressed that you are a runner and we are the same age! The only time I seem to run is when I am chasing my 15 year old for being naughty... so I applaud you! What you have to say is very true! WE are all different, and must find our own path... nobody can tell us otherwise.. and if they try ... well... I'll sick the Invisible Rogue on them... Isn't she awesome!!.... I - RO.. Best of luck with your HHCG adventure with WW, looking forward to hearing all about it!!.. __________________ New journal : http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/we...new-start.html January 19, 2012 RIP Dad

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10-04-2010, 09:35 AM	#362
Deb294evr Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 9,103 Gallery: Deb294evr Stats: 282/??? /150 WOE: Low Carb/Jillian's workouts Start Date: Jan 2013	Kandi you crack me up!!.. Violet Skye... I love the way you put it! Excellent! I hope you keep on posting here, I can tell you are going to be full of interesting thoughts and ideas!

10-04-2010, 10:06 AM	#363
FatFatnomore Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,516 Gallery: FatFatnomore Stats: Fat/Less Fat WOE: Low Carb Start Date: October 26, 2007	Omg I didn't even know this thread existed but I love it. I think you guys are hilarious! I haven't gone rogue yet but I'd love to if it means I can have coffee with cream and still lose!!!!! I use the HCG spray and it says no coffee. Blah! I can skip the food with ease but giving up coffee with heavy cream is torture. Are any of you using my fat cure?

10-04-2010, 11:27 AM	#371
mistydisa Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 479 Gallery: mistydisa Stats: 224/199/150 WOE: Hhcg Start Date: Sept. 30, 2010	I asked this on the main hcg forum, too: Does the body ever build up an immunity to hhcg, or, theoretically speaking, could one stay on it forever?

10-04-2010, 02:49 PM	#382
Snookie68 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 170 Gallery: Snookie68 WOE: hcg rx Start Date: May 17	I`m shaking things up a bit this week...This am I ate <gasp> breakfast!!! I had an egg! and a slice of Ezekiel bread... a bit of a twist on the 600 cal diet that was posted. I`m tracking my calories and will keep close to the 600. I feel like I should put a white t-shirt on and roll a pack of cigarettes up in the sleeves ala James Dean <g>

10-04-2010, 04:47 PM	#383
2B Me Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 9,945 Gallery: 2B Me WOE: HCG (tried it, liked it, should do it again) Start Date: Need to get started again on some plan.	Marking my spot.

10-04-2010, 05:34 PM	#384
soontobeskinnysue Junior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 4 Gallery: soontobeskinnysue	The reason I started thinking about the testosterone thing is because he quit taking injections about 6 months ago and started taking a supplement that is supposed to "unbind" the bound up testosterone. So we were laying in bed the other night and I was totally mad and frustrated about the 500 calories a day thing and I just totally yelled at him and told him that it wasn't fair that he is still eating as much junk and drinking all the full sugar soda as he always has and he is losing weight....and he said to me that he thought it was the "blue pill" (the supplement he takes is blue). So that is what got me started looking around the internet at testosterone deficiency and that led to other possibilities as well. Anyway, I am just going to stick with what I am doing and see where it gets me. Susan

10-04-2010, 05:41 PM	#385
Deb294evr Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 9,103 Gallery: Deb294evr Stats: 282/??? /150 WOE: Low Carb/Jillian's workouts Start Date: Jan 2013	Makes sense, and men do have it much easier usually anyway. Add in more testosterone, and it's not fair.. Good luck with your plan Susan!

10-04-2010, 06:07 PM	#386
petchie Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 171 Gallery: petchie Stats: 195/190.0/155 (5'7") WOE: hHCG-alternate protocol Start Date: R3 9/2/12	OK, I read this whole thread and the journal thread. I want to see if I have this correct. Using hHCG and doing low glycemic veggies, fruits and lean meats. Do not worry about 500 calories you can go higher. Is that correct? Do you need the first 2 load days still? I have been on Atkins for 6 months and lost 25 pounds but have stalled out the past month or so even though ketostix are medium. I normally do <20 carbs a day. This intrigues me.