Simeon's Protocol - Week of 9/20/2010

[Jenmay78]

Hello ladies,
I am a noobie just marking my spot. I have been losing 1-2 lbs consistently since i began the plan. Today i am down .5 lbs. I love this WOE and wouldn't go any other direction!
Thanks and I look forward to getting to know all of you

[KOO]

Originally Posted by Jenmay78

Hello ladies,
I am a noobie just marking my spot. I have been losing 1-2 lbs consistently since i began the plan. Today i am down .5 lbs. I love this WOE and wouldn't go any other direction!
Thanks and I look forward to getting to know all of you

[pmartin6618]

Originally Posted by MtherGoos

Hang in there. It gets so much easier!! You can do this and will be so glad that you did! When I started, I had a diet pepsi habit of 6-10 cans per day, every day, for the last 30 years. Trust me, that was a really tough one to break, but I did and I'm so glad I did.

I also started TOM on the day I started my drops, and it all worked out just fine, so try not to worry. Take one day at a time, chug all the water down that you can, and plan your meals. The first few days are the hardest, but you can get through it.

Hi MtherGoos... I see that you stated you started you menstrual-cycle when you began taking hhcg... is that correct?... wel I ordered my hhcg and it should arive on wed or thur.. and I plan on loading this friday... and my TOM will definintely be on saturdat (full blast)... just wondering was there any problems with taking your drop even while on your TOM?

Thanks.

[JennieJean]

Hi all, I hear this is the place to be if you are on Simeon's Protocol! My friend Chouter said so. My hubby and I just finished Loading and nearly made ourselves sick at a fair. Can't even think about anything fried without getting queasy. Today I started the protocol and am a little confused about how much of each of those veggies we are allowed. I have read a lot of different amounts on the web and am wondering if there is an actual list of veggies and ounces each? Or is it better to measure by the cup? I am truly excited to be here and look forward to seeing the permanent loss on the scale and in my measurements. Carpe Diem! JJ

[MtherGoos]

Originally Posted by Jenmay78

Hello ladies,
I am a noobie just marking my spot. I have been losing 1-2 lbs consistently since i began the plan. Today i am down .5 lbs. I love this WOE and wouldn't go any other direction!
Thanks and I look forward to getting to know all of you

You've really had amazing losses so far! Congratulations!!

Originally Posted by pmartin6618

Hi MtherGoos... I see that you stated you started you menstrual-cycle when you began taking hhcg... is that correct?... wel I ordered my hhcg and it should arive on wed or thur.. and I plan on loading this friday... and my TOM will definintely be on saturdat (full blast)... just wondering was there any problems with taking your drop even while on your TOM?

Thanks.

Yes, I started on the same day I started my drops and it didn't cause me any problems at all.

Originally Posted by JennieJean

Hi all, I hear this is the place to be if you are on Simeon's Protocol! My friend Chouter said so. My hubby and I just finished Loading and nearly made ourselves sick at a fair. Can't even think about anything fried without getting queasy. Today I started the protocol and am a little confused about how much of each of those veggies we are allowed. I have read a lot of different amounts on the web and am wondering if there is an actual list of veggies and ounces each? Or is it better to measure by the cup? I am truly excited to be here and look forward to seeing the permanent loss on the scale and in my measurements. Carpe Diem! JJ

I look forward to hearing more about how you both do!

[mistydisa]

MtherGoos - I just wanted to say I love the quote in your sig: "A year from now, you'll wish you had started today." Isn't that the truth?!

[MtherGoos]

Originally Posted by mistydisa

MtherGoos - I just wanted to say I love the quote in your sig: "A year from now, you'll wish you had started today." Isn't that the truth?!

Thank you! Boy, do I wish I had followed my own advice!

[TLH]

Originally Posted by Jenmay78

Hello ladies,
I am a noobie just marking my spot. I have been losing 1-2 lbs consistently since i began the plan. Today i am down .5 lbs. I love this WOE and wouldn't go any other direction!
Thanks and I look forward to getting to know all of you

Originally Posted by JennieJean

Hi all, I hear this is the place to be if you are on Simeon's Protocol! My friend Chouter said so. My hubby and I just finished Loading and nearly made ourselves sick at a fair. Can't even think about anything fried without getting queasy. Today I started the protocol and am a little confused about how much of each of those veggies we are allowed. I have read a lot of different amounts on the web and am wondering if there is an actual list of veggies and ounces each? Or is it better to measure by the cup? I am truly excited to be here and look forward to seeing the permanent loss on the scale and in my measurements. Carpe Diem! JJ

Welcome!!! So glad to read you!!!

[kerbear879]

Originally Posted by sassy_red

Wow!! It hit me while updating my siggy: today starts week 3 of my R1P2!! Last time the round seemed to draaaaaaaag on, probably because I was angsting over every little drop, every ounce in and out, the scale, my food selections... This time, everything's flown by, I'm not stressing on my food selections, the cravings aren't as bad as I feared at the end of R1P3, and I'm fine with whatever the scale gives me. Of course this time I have a weight goal, not a date goal, so I'm sure the closer I get to that the itchier I'll be to end.

Totally know how you feel. Last time I was obsessed with my round and this time I am kinda just taking it easy and not going to stress about every little thing...and already seems easier.

[kerbear879]

Well started vlcd1 today. Ended up doing 3 loading days instead of 2 because I was just unprepared to start vlcd yesterday. And I weighed this morning and was up 8.5 pounds from LIW. AUGGHH!! I sure hope that comes off quick. But I have been running to the bathroom all day long and shivering (I now remember how cold I always felt on the hcg) so I am sure I've lost weight, plus I was not hungry at all today! That is what I love, not feeling hungry!

[Crispy]

Originally Posted by paulabob

Sorry Diva! I also found my weight was really variable the first 10 days of my P3, then it really started stabilizing and I could eat a lot more.

I have no idea on the injections...I just did one round and am doing drops this time.

Well I
m trying to figure out from yahoo group of when I should change from injections to drops......for now I start injections in the morning at I think injection 31? I have to look back.....wish I knew if I should start drops before immunity with shots or wait.....I sure wish I'd stabilized but I did have too much too soon with P3 birthday food but I will go ultra slow with next P3!!

[quote=KOO;13912314]Thanks Mther! Sorry you are so frustrated. Good luck to you on going back to P2!
Love the new avatar!

Give me encouragement for P2 again tomorrow. Need to get at least back to LIW but thinking/hoping for 5-10lb under, to goal and retry P3 SLOWLY!!

[quote=deechase2;13911835]So I am down 2.5 lbs back to .5 less than when I loaded. Feeling like I need to have something in the morning I miss my coffee and CREAM! I need to get the Stevia so I can at least have lemon tea. I never was a day eater but since my mind knows I cant...I WANT TOO! There is this promax 70cal energy bar that came with drops that is looking real delicious! I am trying to understand the whole tom issues cause I started drops without waiting..plan my food and understand food plan. Just venting and feeling [/QUOTE]

You will get past it. Stevia in water helped me, lemon and peach flavor! One day I'll be back to plain water but until then stevia flavors are great!

Originally Posted by MtherGoos

I found some Cornhuskers Lotion in the store yesterday and I was so glad! We use to use that all the time when I lived in Kansas, but I had forgotten about it. It's not as good as my body butter, but it will work until I can use that again.

Did your Cornhuskers list sucrose? My hubby bought mine and even though it says oil free it lists sucrose as an ingredient so I've not used it on P2 but think I'll try baby oil this time that others have spoken about!

Ok, had the rest of the tempting P3 safe food tonight (hubby will continue eat it) and I've got chicken through Sunday to cover work days.......back to P2 and shots in the AM. Hope i figure out when to switch to drops appropriately before drops hit immunity!! Hoping for goal by Oct 19th before my 3 day of no shots for a 1 day out for P3 with parents/hubby to celebrate my and Mom's birthdays!! Otherwise Oct 19th = LDW then lowcarb the 23rd and back to P2 the 24th or 25th......

Weird how I'm looking forward to making hubby a P3 type breakfast while I'll be having water and a P2 lunch! I have to get this P3 weight off plus a P2 leeway before starting P2 again!!!

WW how are you doing? Still on P2??

Dawn, are you feeling better? Hope you are and will be back to P2 soon!

Happy releasing everyone! Hope to blog my birthday pics and recipes tomorrow and have a great back to VLCD with my shot in the AM!

[MtherGoos]

AHHH!!! I didn't even think to check for sugar in my lotion!!! I will have to check when I get home! I'm sure if yours did, then mine will too. Bummer! I was so enjoying it. ARRHHH, I hope this doesn't set me back.

[Stevie Renee]

Originally Posted by MtherGoos

The hHCG is the homeopathic version that you can get without a prescription. The HCG is the kind you get with a prescription. I'm using the hHCG. They both seem to work equally well.

Oh! Duh....I ordered drops.lol

[Stevie Renee]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

Stevie Renee have you seen this? http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/hc...-hcg-diet.html

Thanks babe. I did not see this. I will check it out

[Jenmay78]

Thank you ladies for making me feel so welcome. I would like to say that i have had great success eating pho twice a week. I know it's not protocol, but i love it and gives me the ability to go to lunch with my co-workers. I order with round steak no noodles and it is so wonderful. I noticed that it keeps me very regular also. Sorry if that is TMI...heehee. Talk with you later. I'm addicted to the series on HBO Weeds and it is about to come on

[mistydisa]

Okay, I'm still gathering information and plan to get started loading this weekend (hopefully, if my drops get here). I've been copying and pasting things I read in the different threads into a cheatsheet for myself, and I have some questions about a few products. Are the following products okay to use/take?

1. Splenda?
2. Diet sodas (especially Coke Zero)?
3. Excedrin for headaches?
4. Green tea extract?
5. broths or stocks (for use in cooking OR just as a filling soup)?
6. Walden Farms products?
7. Da Vinci's products?

And Dawn, this question is specifically for you: I've noticed you've listed "mustard/pancake syrup" mix on your menus several times. I'm still reading the recipe thread, so if it's there, forgive me, but could you tell me what this is? I'm a condiment junkie (esp. honey mustard)!

TIA!

[pmartin6618]

Originally Posted by mistydisa

Okay, I'm still gathering information and plan to get started loading this weekend (hopefully, if my drops get here). I've been copying and pasting things I read in the different threads into a cheatsheet for myself, and I have some questions about a few products. Are the following products okay to use/take?

1. Splenda?
2. Diet sodas (especially Coke Zero)?
3. Excedrin for headaches?
4. Green tea extract?
5. broths or stocks (for use in cooking OR just as a filling soup)?
6. Walden Farms products?
7. Da Vinci's products?

And Dawn, this question is specifically for you: I've noticed you've listed "mustard/pancake syrup" mix on your menus several times. I'm still reading the recipe thread, so if it's there, forgive me, but could you tell me what this is? I'm a condiment junkie (esp. honey mustard)!

TIA!

Hey... I see you're beginning loading this weekend.. So Am I.... I will start on hhcg on Friday 9/24/10 and will begin my 1st vlcd on Monday 9/27/10... maybe we can travel this 1st journey together?

Glad to know I"ll have someone starting the same time as I am.

[sassy_red]

Weight this morning was 198.2, again, for the third day in a row.

I'm not stressing it much yet but I think I'm going to try and keep most of my meals clean, see if that helps. If there's no change by tomorrow then I'll start considering an apple day. But yeah, still geeking out over the 100s. W00t!!!

[ColleenMA66]

Originally Posted by sassy_red

Weight this morning was 198.2, again, for the third day in a row.

I'm not stressing it much yet but I think I'm going to try and keep most of my meals clean, see if that helps. If there's no change by tomorrow then I'll start considering an apple day. But yeah, still geeking out over the 100s. W00t!!!

Sassy I'm curious are you following a similar loss pattern as your first round? I'm only on day 2 today of R2 so I don't have anything to compare it to yet but I'm wondering if we lose similarly as previous rounds.

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by MtherGoos

AHHH!!! I didn't even think to check for sugar in my lotion!!! I will have to check when I get home! I'm sure if yours did, then mine will too. Bummer! I was so enjoying it. ARRHHH, I hope this doesn't set me back.

Sugar in lotion is okay in P2. Every lotion has glycerine, honey or some other form of humectant, and they are all forms of sugar. Humectants trap the water in the skin...otherwise the water evaporates off your skin quite quickly. Simeons only says to avoid fats in lotions, not sugars.

Down .4 today. Little disappointed. Have to lose faster than this to have a 10 pound round.

[Spider_Lily]

What's the difference in HCG and HCG with Platinum?One of our local businesses has this advertised this week in their sale's paper.

[sassy_red]

Originally Posted by ColleenMA66

Sassy I'm curious are you following a similar loss pattern as your first round? I'm only on day 2 today of R2 so I don't have anything to compare it to yet but I'm wondering if we lose similarly as previous rounds.

I honestly couldn't tell you. Last round I lost a net total of 14lbs in 21 days, my third week SUCKED until day 21, and I was obsessive about my foods. This time I have a different bottle, am more laid back about my foods, am drinking more water and reached Onederland. My outlook is different this time around so I don't know if I can really compare the two. I do know I've only lost 5.8lbs from my LDW but I didn't exactly do a perfect R1P3.

Maybe I can draw parallels with successive rounds but, whereas R1 I was obsessed with weightloss, now I'm just taking it a day at a time (not quite as focussed on the losses). Of course I wish I were down more from R1 LDW but I also wish I'd done a better R1P3. I'm content to ride Week 3 out in the hopes Weeks 4 and 5 are kinder.

[Mindfulness]

Originally Posted by mistydisa

Okay, I'm still gathering information and plan to get started loading this weekend (hopefully, if my drops get here). I've been copying and pasting things I read in the different threads into a cheatsheet for myself, and I have some questions about a few products. Are the following products okay to use/take?

1. Splenda?
2. Diet sodas (especially Coke Zero)?
3. Excedrin for headaches?
4. Green tea extract?
5. broths or stocks (for use in cooking OR just as a filling soup)?
6. Walden Farms products?
7. Da Vinci's products?

And Dawn, this question is specifically for you: I've noticed you've listed "mustard/pancake syrup" mix on your menus several times. I'm still reading the recipe thread, so if it's there, forgive me, but could you tell me what this is? I'm a condiment junkie (esp. honey mustard)!

TIA!

Personally, I'd say no to #1, 2, 6, and 7. You owe to to yourself to try and do as clean a round as you can. For me, I think the processed stuff hindered my progress. I did try Walden Farms Ranch dressing a few times and I think it slowed my losses. I only used flavored Stevia for sweetener. I used to drink a lot of diet Coke, but have come to realize that chemical sugar substitutes are designed to make you fatter. Sad, but true. I'm on day 19 of P3, maintaining wonderfully. I slipped up yesterday and had a diet coke. Today I am up 1.6 lbs. I don't think it's a coincidence. I won't be doing that again.

As far as broth goes, every one that I found had added sugar. I made my own and used a lot of it to cook with or make soups.

Good luck!!

[ASHLEY2HAWAII]

Originally Posted by JennieJean

Hi all, I hear this is the place to be if you are on Simeon's Protocol! My friend Chouter said so. My hubby and I just finished Loading and nearly made ourselves sick at a fair. Can't even think about anything fried without getting queasy. Today I started the protocol and am a little confused about how much of each of those veggies we are allowed. I have read a lot of different amounts on the web and am wondering if there is an actual list of veggies and ounces each? Or is it better to measure by the cup? I am truly excited to be here and look forward to seeing the permanent loss on the scale and in my measurements. Carpe Diem! JJ

I really cant remember where I copied this but here is the list I use. Hope it helps and good luck!
Veal - 35 cal/oz
Beef - 55 cal/oz
Chicken - 31 cal/oz
Halibut - 31 cal/oz
Talapia - 27 cal/oz
Haddock - 25 cal/oz
Shrimp - 28 cal/oz
Lobster - 26 cal/oz
Crab - 24 cal/oz
Spinach - 7 cal/oz
Lettuce - 5 cal/oz
Tomato - 5 cal/oz
Celery - 4 cal/oz
Cucumber -4 cal/oz
Asparagus - 6 cal/oz
cabbage - 7 cal/oz
chard - 5 cal/oz
chicory - 7 cal/oz
beet greens - 8 cal/oz
fennel - 9 cal/oz
onions - 12 cal/oz
red radish - 5 cal/oz
apple - 15 cal/oz
orange - 13 cal/oz
grapefruit - 6 cal/oz
strawberry - 9 cal/oz
cracker - 22 cal for plain Grissini & 30 cal for light rye

[Healthy and Happy]

I'm down almost 3 lbs. again today! Only .4 lbs above my LDW, so I hope to be seeing virgin weight tomorrow!!!

Still sucks that I've wasted at least 4 days losing loading weight, especially since this is only a 21 day round, but at least I learned my lesson for future rounds!

FYI, I buy organic mustard, water it down a little and add stevia to sweeten it, I LOVE this on my lean burgers wrapped in romaine lettuce. I'm sure my sf pancake syrup would be really good mixed with it too, but I like to stay away from artificial sweeteners during P2.

[Healthy and Happy]

Oh, I started eating breakfast today. I feel really bad all day if I don't have a little something in the mornings, I discovered this on my 1st round. I just have 1 egg scrambled with 2 whites and tea, I feel so much better now. I hope this helps my losses, it seemed to last time. I also sub 5 mac nuts for the melba/grissini, so 10 mac nuts total for the day. A little rogue but this keeps me on plan and I do not do well with the starch AT ALL.

My body is a little different though, I lose MUCH better eating beef than chicken, again something I discovered last round. I'm only eating extra lean beef this round, no chicken at all.

[sassy_red]

Thanks for the list Ashley!! Are these cal/weights for raw or cooked foods?

[catzrule]

Originally Posted by JennieJean

Hi all, I hear this is the place to be if you are on Simeon's Protocol! My friend Chouter said so. My hubby and I just finished Loading and nearly made ourselves sick at a fair. Can't even think about anything fried without getting queasy. Today I started the protocol and am a little confused about how much of each of those veggies we are allowed. I have read a lot of different amounts on the web and am wondering if there is an actual list of veggies and ounces each? Or is it better to measure by the cup? I am truly excited to be here and look forward to seeing the permanent loss on the scale and in my measurements. Carpe Diem! JJ

I never measured veggies and never had a problem, just my protein.

Originally Posted by kerbear879

Well started vlcd1 today. Ended up doing 3 loading days instead of 2 because I was just unprepared to start vlcd yesterday. And I weighed this morning and was up 8.5 pounds from LIW. AUGGHH!! I sure hope that comes off quick. But I have been running to the bathroom all day long and shivering (I now remember how cold I always felt on the hcg) so I am sure I've lost weight, plus I was not hungry at all today! That is what I love, not feeling hungry!

No worries, it will be gone before you know it! Brrr... I remember the cold feeling on P2. Bringing a sweater to work next week when I go back to P2.

Originally Posted by mistydisa

Okay, I'm still gathering information and plan to get started loading this weekend (hopefully, if my drops get here). I've been copying and pasting things I read in the different threads into a cheatsheet for myself, and I have some questions about a few products. Are the following products okay to use/take?

1. Splenda?
2. Diet sodas (especially Coke Zero)?
3. Excedrin for headaches?
4. Green tea extract?
5. broths or stocks (for use in cooking OR just as a filling soup)?
6. Walden Farms products?
7. Da Vinci's products?


TIA!

I've used all but 5 and 6 in my P2 and I was ok. I limited myself to one diet soda a week though.

Originally Posted by sassy_red

Weight this morning was 198.2, again, for the third day in a row.

I'm not stressing it much yet but I think I'm going to try and keep most of my meals clean, see if that helps. If there's no change by tomorrow then I'll start considering an apple day. But yeah, still geeking out over the 100s. W00t!!!

Hang in there Sarah, it may be a plateau you have to break through.

Originally Posted by thin in 2010

I'm down almost 3 lbs. again today! Only .4 lbs above my LDW, so I hope to be seeing virgin weight tomorrow!!!

Still sucks that I've wasted at least 4 days losing loading weight, especially since this is only a 21 day round, but at least I learned my lesson for future rounds!

Hooray on the 3 pounds!


Still hovering 1.2 below LDW. Can't wait to get back to P2 so my posts are more interesting...LOL

[ASHLEY2HAWAII]

Originally Posted by sassy_red

Thanks for the list Ashley!! Are these cal/weights for raw or cooked foods?

Those are all raw weights. You can actually eat a lot of veggies especially cucumbers, celery, lettuce and tomatoes. I weigh everything
I also use the wasa light crisp at 20 calories each, they just look bigger. Shrimp and chicken are also a calorie bargin.
Hope this helps!

[cookie34]

Originally Posted by thin in 2010

I'm down almost 3 lbs. again today! Only .4 lbs above my LDW, so I hope to be seeing virgin weight tomorrow!!!

Still sucks that I've wasted at least 4 days losing loading weight, especially since this is only a 21 day round, but at least I learned my lesson for future rounds!

FYI, I buy organic mustard, water it down a little and add stevia to sweeten it, I LOVE this on my lean burgers wrapped in romaine lettuce. I'm sure my sf pancake syrup would be really good mixed with it too, but I like to stay away from artificial sweeteners during P2.

Here's to Virgin Territory!! The mustard mix sounds good.. may have to try it.

Originally Posted by sassy_red

Weight this morning was 198.2, again, for the third day in a row.

I'm not stressing it much yet but I think I'm going to try and keep most of my meals clean, see if that helps. If there's no change by tomorrow then I'll start considering an apple day. But yeah, still geeking out over the 100s. W00t!!!

I hate when the scale doesn't cooperate!

Originally Posted by Spider_Lily

What's the difference in HCG and HCG with Platinum?One of our local businesses has this advertised this week in their sale's paper.

I don't know but am curious too. Maybe someone else will chime in.

Originally Posted by catzrule

No worries, it will be gone before you know it! Brrr... I remember the cold feeling on P2. Bringing a sweater to work next week when I go back to P2.

I think I am the only one in So Cal that is turning on the HEATER in the car on the drive home.. in the dead of summer. Why do we get cold?