P3 question

silkandsand · 08-22-2010, 03:35 PM

A friend of mine asked me how on earth we can NOT lose weight in P3 if it is essentially low-carbing. I know we are supposed to be stabilizing and therefore not losing during P3. Can someone please 'splain it to us? TIA

walkingwoman · 08-22-2010, 03:53 PM

I wonder about this too.

silkandsand · 08-22-2010, 03:59 PM

Whew! At least we're not alone! I hope someone knows, though. It's really baffling.

silkandsand · 08-22-2010, 07:31 PM

Anyone?

walkingwoman · 08-22-2010, 07:39 PM

Maybe by eating loads of calories compared with how we have been eating?

torister · 08-23-2010, 06:02 AM

Well, you will be eating a lot of calories in the form of good fat and you figure out as you go along how much you need to eat to maintain your current weight. If you don't, then your body will not reset to the current weight as its set point.

You *will* gain weight if you overeat low carb....and I maintained (read: stall!!) for 8 months on low carb...so it can happen.

To clarify re: what we ate in P2 being so little. YES, we took in only 500 calories a day, but our body was releasing abnormal fat to use as fuel to keep it going. Whatever our needs were...our body made up the difference from our fat stores (you could have been burning 3000 cals of fat!). Make sense?

I am looking forward to P3, but nervous that I won't maintain this loss. Again...its a learning process for me...afterall, I went 8 months of NO LOSS and being good most of the time.

Ladidah · 08-23-2010, 06:21 AM

I think the stabilizing is part of the hypothalamus resetting. All I know is that it was pretty much effortless for me to stabilize no matter how much I ate. And I really didn't eat that much fat/meat like I do when low carbing - I overate fruit. I ate tons of berries and melon. But I don't know. It is different from classic low carbing because of the fruit thing. I ate a lot of fruit carbs!

silkandsand · 08-23-2010, 06:24 AM

Thanks for the input. So is it because we are likely taking in more cals than we did while low-carbing?

Will we be in ketosis on P3?

torister · 08-23-2010, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by silkandsand

Thanks for the input. So is it because we are likely taking in more cals than we did while low-carbing?

Will we be in ketosis on P3?

I guess it depends on how many carbs you are taking in with your fruits and veggies and nuts, etc. and what your body's level of carb intake is to stay in ketosis. I am still in ketosis during P2 I know that.

torister · 08-23-2010, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladidah

I think the stabilizing is part of the hypothalamus resetting.

Yes...this is correct.

tobethinner · 08-23-2010, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silkandsand

Thanks for the input. So is it because we are likely taking in more cals than we did while low-carbing?

Will we be in ketosis on P3?

No you should not be in ketosis during P3. I checked during my first P3 and I didn't eat much fruit that time.

To answer your initial question, no you shouldn't lose much weight during P3 at all. Some people will stablize below the 2 pound limit, others at LDW or above. After my last disastrous round, I finally stablized 15 lbs above LDW.

There is some debate on what to add during P3, some say add fats, some say add protein. I always add protein to help me stablize. HTH!

torister · 08-23-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tobethinner

No you should not be in ketosis during P3. I checked during my first P3 and I didn't eat much fruit that time.

To answer your initial question, no you shouldn't lose much weight during P3 at all. Some people will stablize below the 2 pound limit, others at LDW or above. After my last disastrous round, I finally stablized 15 lbs above LDW.

There is some debate on what to add during P3, some say add fats, some say add protein. I always add protein to help me stablize. HTH!

Good to know!

Gosh...what happened that caused you to stabilize so far above your LDW?

tobethinner · 08-23-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by torister

Good to know!

Gosh...what happened that caused you to stabilize so far above your LDW?

I didn't do a correct P3. Thought that I could cheat the system and use a carb blocker during a long weekend away. I was stablizing perfectly before I left, but couldn't after that. I should have either 1) called it an interruption and gone back on the juice for a week or so or 2) continued on P3 for a full 3 weeks after that weekend cheatfest. #1 probably would have been the best choice.

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torister Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,345 Gallery: torister	Well, you will be eating a lot of calories in the form of good fat and you figure out as you go along how much you need to eat to maintain your current weight. If you don't, then your body will not reset to the current weight as its set point. You will gain weight if you overeat low carb....and I maintained (read: stall!!) for 8 months on low carb...so it can happen. To clarify re: what we ate in P2 being so little. YES, we took in only 500 calories a day, but our body was releasing abnormal fat to use as fuel to keep it going. Whatever our needs were...our body made up the difference from our fat stores (you could have been burning 3000 cals of fat!). Make sense? I am looking forward to P3, but nervous that I won't maintain this loss. Again...its a learning process for me...afterall, I went 8 months of NO LOSS and being good most of the time. Last edited by torister; 08-23-2010 at 06:05 AM..

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08-22-2010, 03:35 PM	#1
silkandsand Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 9,946 Gallery: silkandsand Stats: 155/163/135 WOE: PB&J	P3 question A friend of mine asked me how on earth we can NOT lose weight in P3 if it is essentially low-carbing. I know we are supposed to be stabilizing and therefore not losing during P3. Can someone please 'splain it to us? TIA

08-22-2010, 03:53 PM	#2
walkingwoman Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 19,112 Gallery: walkingwoman WOE: maintaining 124-128 range Start Date: 2/1/13	I wonder about this too.

08-22-2010, 03:59 PM	#3
silkandsand Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 9,946 Gallery: silkandsand Stats: 155/163/135 WOE: PB&J	Whew! At least we're not alone! I hope someone knows, though. It's really baffling.

08-22-2010, 07:31 PM	#4
silkandsand Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 9,946 Gallery: silkandsand Stats: 155/163/135 WOE: PB&J	Anyone?

08-22-2010, 07:39 PM	#5
walkingwoman Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 19,112 Gallery: walkingwoman WOE: maintaining 124-128 range Start Date: 2/1/13	Maybe by eating loads of calories compared with how we have been eating?

08-23-2010, 06:21 AM	#7
Ladidah Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,759 Gallery: Ladidah	I think the stabilizing is part of the hypothalamus resetting. All I know is that it was pretty much effortless for me to stabilize no matter how much I ate. And I really didn't eat that much fat/meat like I do when low carbing - I overate fruit. I ate tons of berries and melon. But I don't know. It is different from classic low carbing because of the fruit thing. I ate a lot of fruit carbs!

08-23-2010, 06:24 AM	#8
silkandsand Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 9,946 Gallery: silkandsand Stats: 155/163/135 WOE: PB&J	Thanks for the input. So is it because we are likely taking in more cals than we did while low-carbing? Will we be in ketosis on P3?