I screwed up & gained...what now?

dointhis4me · 08-16-2010, 08:59 AM

Today is R1VLCD4
Pre-load I was 184.6, post load I was 188.4, as of yesterday I was 180.4.
I have been pretty hungry since starting. Yesterday I ended up eating several bites (just bites) of things I shouldn't have & I drank Diet Rite soda. On top of that I didn't get all my water in for the day

I woke up this morning with a 0.2 gain, 180.6, I know it wasn't a huge gain but I'm upset with myself

Do I just get back on protocol, start all the way over or what?

TIA

MistyLoo · 08-16-2010, 09:12 AM

Stay on protocol! I think we all have have a gain once or twice. Dust yourself off and get back on the horse.

Commit to not cheating, it may take a day or two to get your stride back, but you haven't done any major damage to your diet. Good luck and please know that the hunger WILL go away. Be good to yourself and don't stress, stress can interfer with your losses.

droppin · 08-16-2010, 09:13 AM

your weight will go up and down, You have no need to start over. Sounds like your doing fine. Good Luck

torister · 08-16-2010, 09:35 AM

Oh gosh...0.2? That is a blip...another half hour and a trip to the bathroom before weighing and you could be 0.5 DOWN.

Get back on protocol and don't stray. Are you doing hHCG or the RX? You should NOT be hungry.

dointhis4me · 08-16-2010, 09:55 AM

I'm doing RX....I upped my dose as of yesterday from 150IU to 175IU. Hoping that helps, guess it may take a few days to tell. I've been hungry to the point of it making me feel horrible by evening time & I figured that wasn't supposed to be the case from all I've read

Ladidah · 08-16-2010, 10:03 AM

I drank Diet Rite during P2. Not every day, but I probably went through close to a 12 pack in my 28 days of VLCD.

walkingwoman · 08-16-2010, 10:46 AM

Hi Holly, I hope the adjustment in your dosage will help you. Sending you loads of support and hang in there. It gets easier but we all have challening days

kimberlybimberly · 08-16-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dointhis4me

I'm doing RX....I upped my dose as of yesterday from 150IU to 175IU. Hoping that helps, guess it may take a few days to tell. I've been hungry to the point of it making me feel horrible by evening time & I figured that wasn't supposed to be the case from all I've read

FYI It takes about 3 days for the full effect of the new dosage to kick in. So, you need to give it some time before you decide that this is the right dosage for you or you need to make additional changes.

torister · 08-16-2010, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dointhis4me

I'm doing RX....I upped my dose as of yesterday from 150IU to 175IU. Hoping that helps, guess it may take a few days to tell. I've been hungry to the point of it making me feel horrible by evening time & I figured that wasn't supposed to be the case from all I've read

I hope that helps with the hunger. I started at 175iu taken subQ. It was too HIGH. I was starving. Since going down to 150iu I have NO HUNGER.

dointhis4me · 08-16-2010, 12:26 PM

Hmmmmmm, I'm wondering if I give this a few days & my hunger doesn't get better or God forbid, gets worse, should I try decreasing my dose? I am sitting at work & my stomach is growling SO loudly!

dawnyama · 08-17-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dointhis4me

Hmmmmmm, I'm wondering if I give this a few days & my hunger doesn't get better or God forbid, gets worse, should I try decreasing my dose? I am sitting at work & my stomach is growling SO loudly!

The correct dose I believe is MUCH lower than what you are on!!! It is recommended that you decrease instead of increase--IF you are doing the RX. Which you say you are. Please decrease your dose. AND with the Rx it takes effect immediately--not 3 days as another poster stated earler! I thought P&I stated that 125 IUs were what was needed. Please look again and dose lower!!! I have only done the homeopathic but have seen others post about this again and again.

dawnyama · 08-17-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dointhis4me

I'm doing RX....I upped my dose as of yesterday from 150IU to 175IU. Hoping that helps, guess it may take a few days to tell. I've been hungry to the point of it making me feel horrible by evening time & I figured that wasn't supposed to be the case from all I've read

That is way too high!! You need to go lower!!

kimberlybimberly · 08-17-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dawnyama

The correct dose I believe is MUCH lower than what you are on!!! It is recommended that you decrease instead of increase--IF you are doing the RX. Which you say you are. Please decrease your dose. AND with the Rx it takes effect immediately--not 3 days as another poster stated earler! I thought P&I stated that 125 IUs were what was needed. Please look again and dose lower!!! I have only done the homeopathic but have seen others post about this again and again.

Dawn,

The effects of the CHANGE will be FELT in three days. Kinda like the third dose day is the first VLCD day.

dawnyama · 08-17-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kimberlybimberly

Dawn,

The effects of the CHANGE will be FELT in three days. Kinda like the third dose day is the first VLCD day.

Not from what I heard. I heard it was immediate, when you do the rx! I do know that with the homeopathic it is about a 2 or 3 day wait when you change your dose--says so in my paperwork that came with the drops. I hope for Holly's sake it is immediate!!

kimberlybimberly · 08-17-2010, 10:29 AM

That's also the reason for the 3 days w/o hCG at the end of the VLCDs.

torister · 08-17-2010, 10:33 AM

When I changed my dose, the hunger eased over the course of the day I changed it (I did skip a day as advised) and after the 2nd injection at the lower dose and going forward NO hunger. That is how it should be.

Holly...how are you doing?

dawnyama · 08-17-2010, 10:47 AM

P.S. just so you know---Dr Simeons was dosing everyone at his clinic with the same 125IUs. Those big guys as well as petite women he was treating. There is no need for a higher dose--at least to start off with.

torister · 08-17-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dawnyama

P.S. just so you know---Dr Simeons was dosing everyone at his clinic with the same 125IUs. Those big guys as well as petite women he was treating. There is no need for a higher dose--at least to start off with.

Well...remember that they were also getting an IM shot...not a subq. They didn't need as much.

I get my advice relative to the subq shots from a vet to HCG that knows what she is talking about. I had wanted to start at 150, but she advised most people start at 175 and do well at that level or just go down a bit. She herself is dosing at I think 168 or something like that. 150 is working well. If it were too much I would be hungry...ravenous actually like I was at 175. I have 10 days under my belt at 150 and it is still working...no hunger...at all... This weekend I honestly could have gone all day without eating. I didn't, but I could have if I were waiting for physical hunger to indicate I should eat.

dawnyama · 08-17-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by torister

Well...remember that they were also getting an IM shot...not a subq. They didn't need as much.

I get my advice relative to the subq shots from a vet to HCG that knows what she is talking about. I had wanted to start at 150, but she advised most people start at 175 and do well at that level or just go down a bit. She herself is dosing at I think 168 or something like that. 150 is working well. If it were too much I would be hungry...ravenous actually like I was at 175. I have 10 days under my belt at 150 and it is still working...no hunger...at all... This weekend I honestly could have gone all day without eating. I didn't, but I could have if I were waiting for physical hunger to indicate I should eat.

Yes, indeed I have heard that you do need to use more sublingual if you are doing it that way!! It won't all be absorbed, that is the reason for the higher dose. I didn't realize that Holly was doing sublingual--forgive my oversight there. I am so glad you are doing so well!!

Isn't this just the best???!!!

torister · 08-17-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dawnyama

Yes, indeed I have heard that you do need to use more sublingual if you are doing it that way!! It won't all be absorbed, that is the reason for the higher dose. I didn't realize that Holly was doing sublingual--forgive my oversight there. I am so glad you are doing so well!!

Isn't this just the best???!!!

I am doing Subq injections which require a bit more than the IM injections and the sublingual require more than the subQ.

No worries! I can barely keep track of what *I* am doing let alone any one else.

It absolutely is the best. After losing 100+lbs with LC which I could eat forever...stalling out for 8 months (maintaining that loss) with no additional loss of lbs or inches and sticking to plan...this is a miracle to me. I hope this "resets" me and I can continue losing and get to a normal weight for the first time ever and maintain it!

tobethinner · 08-17-2010, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dointhis4me

I'm doing RX....I upped my dose as of yesterday from 150IU to 175IU. Hoping that helps, guess it may take a few days to tell. I've been hungry to the point of it making me feel horrible by evening time & I figured that wasn't supposed to be the case from all I've read

Holly you may need to lower your dose. I know that sounds counterintuitive, but that is the way the RX works. If the higher dose doesn't work, go down to 125IU and see if that is better. The old adage more is better doesn't work with RX hcg!

tobethinner · 08-17-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dawnyama

Yes, indeed I have heard that you do need to use more sublingual if you are doing it that way!! It won't all be absorbed, that is the reason for the higher dose. I didn't realize that Holly was doing sublingual--forgive my oversight there. I am so glad you are doing so well!!

Isn't this just the best???!!!

They are talking subcutaneous injections (in the fat) compared to IM or intramuscular injections, not sublinqual (under the tongue) drops.

dawnyama · 08-17-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tobethinner

They are talking subcutaneous injections (in the fat) compared to IM or intramuscular injections, not sublinqual (under the tongue) drops.

Thanks for the straightening out!! See why I don't do RX????!!!! Exactly that!!! Too much to think about. I just tap on the bottle, drop under tongue and go about my day!!! That is the best for me--simple and no mixing to be done. Love it!!

But yes, in the end Holly does need to lower the dose!!! That is the point I was trying to make. Lower is better with HCG!

torister · 08-17-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tobethinner

The old adage more is better doesn't work with RX hcg!

Absolutely!

torister · 08-17-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dawnyama

Thanks for the straightening out!! See why I don't do RX????!!!! Exactly that!!! Too much to think about. I just tap on the bottle, drop under tongue and go about my day!!! That is the best for me--simple and no mixing to be done. Love it!!

LOL...that is why I do RX injections. One shot in the AM and I am done thinking about it for the day. I couldn't deal with drops and scheduling them throughout the day. I do one mix that takes 2 mins at the beginning of a round and then a shot every AM. Easy....Easy...Easy.

dointhis4me · 08-18-2010, 08:23 AM

OMG, I am not doing well at all...I am starving

You all are right, I should have lowered now upped my dose...I am so, so hungry to the point that people can hear my stomach growling!
This is worse much than before I upped my dose!
Do you recommend I skip my injection this evening & then start a lower dose tomorrow?

kimberlybimberly · 08-18-2010, 08:29 AM

What Day are you on? Dr S says not to skip a dose until you have three effective doses (VLCDs) under your belt. If that is the case, yeah, probably skip a day then lower your dose. I do stand behind my previous statement of giving yourself three days to know if the new dose is helping/hurting. That comes from my doctor. If you move too much, too fast, you may not know when you have it right - although it is obvious that you don't have it right at this point. Hope you start feeling better!

Also, are you dosing once per day? Your statement about an evening injection has me wondering. Should be one injection per day.

dointhis4me · 08-18-2010, 08:43 AM

Yes, I am only doing one injection per day, evening is just easier for me to remember so thats when I do it.

Today is VLCD6 for me & day 3 at the new higher dose

I am losing pounds & inches but the hunger is getting worse each day

kimberlybimberly · 08-18-2010, 09:03 AM

I think you should lower your dose.

catzrule · 08-18-2010, 09:17 AM

I'm starving today as well and dizzy. I just ate lunch and am afraid I won't make it until dinner tonight. I don't want to snack in between, but I may have to.

If the dizziness doesn't go away, what do I do?

08-16-2010, 08:59 AM	#1
dointhis4me Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 2,764 Gallery: dointhis4me Stats: 246/156...NOW 217 :( Start Date: 4/4/07-5'6", 33 y.o.	I screwed up & gained...what now? Today is R1VLCD4 Pre-load I was 184.6, post load I was 188.4, as of yesterday I was 180.4. I have been pretty hungry since starting. Yesterday I ended up eating several bites (just bites) of things I shouldn't have & I drank Diet Rite soda. On top of that I didn't get all my water in for the day I woke up this morning with a 0.2 gain, 180.6, I know it wasn't a huge gain but I'm upset with myself Do I just get back on protocol, start all the way over or what? TIA __________________

08-16-2010, 12:26 PM	#10
dointhis4me Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 2,764 Gallery: dointhis4me Stats: 246/156...NOW 217 :( Start Date: 4/4/07-5'6", 33 y.o.	Hmmmmmm, I'm wondering if I give this a few days & my hunger doesn't get better or God forbid, gets worse, should I try decreasing my dose? I am sitting at work & my stomach is growling SO loudly! Last edited by dointhis4me; 08-16-2010 at 12:28 PM..

08-18-2010, 08:29 AM	#27
kimberlybimberly Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,177 Gallery: kimberlybimberly Stats: 184/120/120	What Day are you on? Dr S says not to skip a dose until you have three effective doses (VLCDs) under your belt. If that is the case, yeah, probably skip a day then lower your dose. I do stand behind my previous statement of giving yourself three days to know if the new dose is helping/hurting. That comes from my doctor. If you move too much, too fast, you may not know when you have it right - although it is obvious that you don't have it right at this point. Hope you start feeling better! Also, are you dosing once per day? Your statement about an evening injection has me wondering. Should be one injection per day. Last edited by kimberlybimberly; 08-18-2010 at 08:39 AM..

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08-16-2010, 09:12 AM	#2
MistyLoo Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South Central Texas Posts: 4,569 Gallery: MistyLoo Stats: 148.6/121/125 WOE: hhcg 7/12/10 Start Date: Aug. 2002	Stay on protocol! I think we all have have a gain once or twice. Dust yourself off and get back on the horse. Commit to not cheating, it may take a day or two to get your stride back, but you haven't done any major damage to your diet. Good luck and please know that the hunger WILL go away. Be good to yourself and don't stress, stress can interfer with your losses.

08-16-2010, 09:13 AM	#3
droppin Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 552 Gallery: droppin Stats: 258.4/223/150-new start 12/29/2011 WOE: My Own Low Carb Start Date: 12/29/2011	your weight will go up and down, You have no need to start over. Sounds like your doing fine. Good Luck

08-16-2010, 09:35 AM	#4
torister Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,345 Gallery: torister	Oh gosh...0.2? That is a blip...another half hour and a trip to the bathroom before weighing and you could be 0.5 DOWN. Get back on protocol and don't stray. Are you doing hHCG or the RX? You should NOT be hungry.

08-16-2010, 09:55 AM	#5
dointhis4me Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 2,764 Gallery: dointhis4me Stats: 246/156...NOW 217 :( Start Date: 4/4/07-5'6", 33 y.o.	I'm doing RX....I upped my dose as of yesterday from 150IU to 175IU. Hoping that helps, guess it may take a few days to tell. I've been hungry to the point of it making me feel horrible by evening time & I figured that wasn't supposed to be the case from all I've read

08-16-2010, 10:03 AM	#6
Ladidah Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,759 Gallery: Ladidah	I drank Diet Rite during P2. Not every day, but I probably went through close to a 12 pack in my 28 days of VLCD.

08-16-2010, 10:46 AM	#7
walkingwoman Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 19,085 Gallery: walkingwoman WOE: maintaining 124-128 range Start Date: 2/1/13	Hi Holly, I hope the adjustment in your dosage will help you. Sending you loads of support and hang in there. It gets easier but we all have challening days

08-17-2010, 10:29 AM	#15
kimberlybimberly Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,177 Gallery: kimberlybimberly Stats: 184/120/120	That's also the reason for the 3 days w/o hCG at the end of the VLCDs.

08-17-2010, 10:33 AM	#16
torister Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,345 Gallery: torister	When I changed my dose, the hunger eased over the course of the day I changed it (I did skip a day as advised) and after the 2nd injection at the lower dose and going forward NO hunger. That is how it should be. Holly...how are you doing?

08-17-2010, 10:47 AM	#17
dawnyama Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 21,195 Gallery: dawnyama Stats: 154/???/115 5'4" WOE: Hhcg/Rwhatever P2 Start Date: 6/1/09	P.S. just so you know---Dr Simeons was dosing everyone at his clinic with the same 125IUs. Those big guys as well as petite women he was treating. There is no need for a higher dose--at least to start off with.

08-18-2010, 08:23 AM	#26
dointhis4me Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 2,764 Gallery: dointhis4me Stats: 246/156...NOW 217 :( Start Date: 4/4/07-5'6", 33 y.o.	OMG, I am not doing well at all...I am starving You all are right, I should have lowered now upped my dose...I am so, so hungry to the point that people can hear my stomach growling! This is worse much than before I upped my dose! Do you recommend I skip my injection this evening & then start a lower dose tomorrow?

08-18-2010, 08:43 AM	#28
dointhis4me Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 2,764 Gallery: dointhis4me Stats: 246/156...NOW 217 :( Start Date: 4/4/07-5'6", 33 y.o.	Yes, I am only doing one injection per day, evening is just easier for me to remember so thats when I do it. Today is VLCD6 for me & day 3 at the new higher dose I am losing pounds & inches but the hunger is getting worse each day

08-18-2010, 09:03 AM	#29
kimberlybimberly Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,177 Gallery: kimberlybimberly Stats: 184/120/120	I think you should lower your dose.

08-18-2010, 09:17 AM	#30
catzrule Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Connecticut Posts: 6,247 Gallery: catzrule Stats: 153.8/139.6/128 (5'3") WOE: Simeon's protocol - HCG Start Date: November 20, 2002	I'm starving today as well and dizzy. I just ate lunch and am afraid I won't make it until dinner tonight. I don't want to snack in between, but I may have to. If the dizziness doesn't go away, what do I do?