hcg cycling anyone?

mybigbutt · 08-07-2010, 02:02 PM

Does anyone cycle here? I know it's not protocol, but I was reading about it elsewhere and was wondering if anyone here does/did it and wants to share their experience?

Snookie68 · 08-07-2010, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mybigbutt

Does anyone cycle here? I know it's not protocol, but I was reading about it elsewhere and was wondering if anyone here does/did it and wants to share their experience?

I have been reading about it but have not tried it. I`ll be very interested to see what everyone writes!

walkingwoman · 08-07-2010, 08:04 PM

Haven't read anything about it. How does it differ from the plan as written? Curious to read about it although I'm loving my results with the plan already. It might be something to try in the future though so any info you can provide would be appreciated. I always like to read about people's experiences.

Ladidah · 08-08-2010, 10:23 AM

I *think* it means after P3, going right back on P2 without doing a P4. I'm considering doing that. Actually, I'm contemplating only doing 2 weeks of P3 and then starting a new round. I am on R1P3D4 and I am missing the simplicity of P2 eating right now.

mybigbutt · 08-08-2010, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladidah

I *think* it means after P3, going right back on P2 without doing a P4. I'm considering doing that. Actually, I'm contemplating only doing 2 weeks of P3 and then starting a new round. I am on R1P3D4 and I am missing the simplicity of P2 eating right now.

I am thinking of doing a short P3 and right into P2 again as well.

Gilded Lily · 08-08-2010, 10:41 AM

This is my first round of hcg and I was all set to cycle. But I have been told that everyone should do p4 at least the first time. Something to do with stabalizing...

Kimberli33 · 08-08-2010, 01:38 PM

As long as my weight does not fluctuate too much I'm cycling back to P2 in 2 weeks.

mybigbutt · 08-08-2010, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilded Lily

This is my first round of hcg and I was all set to cycle. But I have been told that everyone should do p4 at least the first time. Something to do with stabalizing...

I read that somewhere too. But, I have seen people not do P4 til they are done losing, too. Not sure what is the best way.

CaTriGirl · 08-08-2010, 04:06 PM

I hope it's okay to post this, if not, I will delete it, I found this article on a website.

Minimum Course

In his book Pounds and Inches, Dr. Simeon’s says this under “Duration of Treatment”:

We never give a treatment lasting less than 26 days, even in patients needing to lose only 5 pounds. It seems that even in the mildest cases of obesity the diencephalon requires about three weeks rest from the maximal exertion to which it has been previously subjected in order to regain fully its normal fat-banking capacity. Clinically this expresses itself in the fact that when in these mild cases treatment is stopped as soon as the weight is normal, which may be achieved in a week, it is much more easily regained than after a full course of 23 injections.

So it stands to reason that you can do a SHORT course as per his instructions with NO issues. In doing SHORT cycles like this, you will then ward off any possibility of “Immunity” that Dr. Simeon’s talks about in his book. In any case, I have my thoughts on IMMUNITY as well; in so much as it is NOT the factor that Dr. Simeon’s thought it was in his day. The unfortunate thing is that Dr. Simeon’s passed long before he could complete his research – but really, this is a thought for another day.

So we have established that 3 week cycles are AOK – now what about the breaks? Let’s look at what Dr. Simeon’s says about “Unforeseen Interruptions”:

Unforeseen Interruptions

Unforeseen Interruptions of Treatment

If an interruption of treatment lasting more than four days is necessary, the patient must increase his diet to at least 800 Calories by adding meat, eggs, cheese, and milk to his diet after the third day, as otherwise he will find himself so hungry and weak that he is unable to go about his usual occupation. If the interval lasts less than two weeks the patient can directly resume injections and the 500-Calorie diet, but if the interruption lasts longer he must again eat normally until he has had his third injection.

When a patient knows beforehand that he will have to travel and be absent for more than four days, it is always better to stop injections three days before he is due to leave so that he can have the three days of strict dieting which are necessary after the last injection at home. This saves him from the almost impossible task of having to arrange the 500 Calorie diet while en route, and he can thus enjoy a much greater dietary freedom from the day of his departure. Interruptions occurring before 20 effective injections have been given are most undesirable, because with less than that number of injections some weight is liable to be regained. After the 20th injection an unavoidable interruption is merely a loss of time.

In other words, he says there would be situations that would be needed to be considered where you had to take a break, you would have to have AT LEAST 800 calories and that if the interruption was LESS than 14 days you go straight back into VLCD with your first dose of hCG, but if it were LONGER than 14 days you would eat NORMALLY for two days with hCG and then the THIRD DAY would be a VLCD day with a dose of hCG. And he also tells us that after the 20th injection, you are pretty safe – so are you beginning to see my line of reasoning in my breaks?

I have chosen to keep my breaks while I am CYCLING this round to between 7 – 10 days long each. That is my choice. But you have until the 21st day on a break for it still to be considered a cycle because anything MORE than that would be an ENTIRE PHASE 3 break, and your round would be complete. A round is a COMPLETE Phase 2 and a COMPLETE Phase 3 – and then however many days you decide to do in Phase 4 – anything less than that it becomes a cycle (or it does in my world!).

So then, what happens when I am breaking for 7 – 10 days?

P3 Breaks

You have to follow the same procedure as you do with a regular P3 break; you do it with NO sugars and NO starches. This cycling thing is not for the faint of heart, no ma’am. You must maintain during the short break or your time will be wasted. Believe me, I speak from experience. This last short break I took has been the best so far since I started cycling, as I have lost a total of 7 pounds in 7 days. I started at only 2.4 over my LIW – and within 48 hours I was already below LIW and into “virgin territory”. Let me illustrate:

From LIW which was on August 18 (148.2) till today, September 9 (143.6) I have lost a total of 4.6 lbs in 21 days, of which only 10 of those days were VLCD, the other 11 days were spent maintaining and eating pretty much how I want. 4.6 lbs in 21 days on ANY weight loss program is pretty sweet. When you consider the loss of 4.6 lbs in 10 VLCD days? Well then, that is even MORE sweet. In other words, it WORKS for me.

Last but not least, as with anyone with a bunch of data behind them, they know one thing for sure:

LOSSES ARE BETTER AT THE BEGINNING OF A ROUND

Yup! I didn’t have to tell you this did I? I like those monster losses at the beginning and my head is way more into the game then, so why should I suffer? At first, I was like everyone else, afraid this wouldn’t work after the first time, but here I am over 100 lbs lost later, and it is STILL working. So that being said, that is why I chose to CYCLE.

mybigbutt · 08-08-2010, 04:11 PM

CTG - that is the post I read as well!

Joyful111 · 08-08-2010, 05:51 PM

I am cycling this round, but really don't have any info to share just yet. I am 2 days into VLCD for this Phase 2.

Some people have a lot of variation between their rounds and their stabilization success even when they do the full phase 3 and 4 so I am not sure I would even be able to blame any change on cycling. Hopefully, though it will all just go as per usual and this freaking weight will be gone very soon! Hooray! I have one long round and one short round or three short rounds before I am done. If all goes well with cycling this round then I will continue to do it until the end.

mybigbutt · 08-08-2010, 05:58 PM

Joyful, did you do a full 3-wk P3?

cookie34 · 08-08-2010, 07:28 PM

When you cycle, do you do 2 load days before going back into P2?

CaTriGirl · 08-08-2010, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookie34

When you cycle, do you do 2 load days before going back into P2?

I don't think so. You just go right back to it.

I'm thinking of either going longer that 21 days or cycling. I want to just get it all done with, but I don't know if I can eat like this for that long. We go on vacation Sept 11th, so I may take a planned interruption.

I guess I'll wait and see how close to my goal I get. Hopefully I'll lose 20 lbs in p2 and not have to worry about it!

mybigbutt · 08-08-2010, 08:00 PM

You only load if you do more than 14 days - then it's one load day. 21 days or more and you need to load 2 days.

Joyful111 · 08-08-2010, 08:49 PM

Yes, I did a full three week P3. That worked best with my schedule. I loaded for 2 days because I didn't realize you could do one load day if you are cycling. That is good to know.

The only change I have noticed thus far is that I only gained 2.6lbs while loading and actually lost weight after my second load day. But sometimes that happens to people even when they don't cycle so it might not have anything to do with it.

Snookie68 · 08-08-2010, 09:49 PM

Lots of very good info!

Joyful111 · 08-08-2010, 10:07 PM

Reading through what CaTriGirl posted, maybe I am not cycling. Maybe I am just skipping phase 4. Is that the same thing? Is there one official definition? I'm confused now!

mybigbutt · 08-09-2010, 04:29 AM

Yes, cycling is basically skipping P4. the length of P3 for cyclers seems to vary.

cookie34 · 08-09-2010, 07:54 AM

So.... do you seem to be losing just as fast on P2 when you skip P4?

cookie34 · 08-09-2010, 07:58 AM

Also, when you loaded while cycling, did you still "gorge" and all kinds of high fat foods? Did you stay away from carbs or eat normal, eat anything you want, gorge foods?

sassy_red · 08-09-2010, 08:45 AM

My plan for R2 is to try and stabilize in P3 then go straight into another P2; that's kind of what I thought cycling was. Did I read right that some people do shortened P2's, basically getting the sped-up weightloss from the beginning of the cycle, then going to P3 for a while and repeating?

Joyful111 · 08-09-2010, 08:53 AM

Thanks for clarifying for me MBB. Up above the post said if you complete Phase 3 then you aren't cycling so that had me a bit confused as to what exactly you would be doing then. I am going to consider it cycling.

Anyway no difference for me so far but it is early days. I think the main concern is that you won't stabilize properly, but my attitude is basically that when it comes time to maintain I will do whatever I need to do to make that happen. Also I am gluten intolerant and in fact can not eat even nongluten grains. Except for this last load, I haven't eaten sugar since 2002. I ate it this last load to help keep my appetite up. I don't really have any interest in adding much starch and sugar into my diet and since you don't develop immunity to hhcg, it seemed like cycling was worth a try.

I don't think I could go only 7-10 days for a break though. Personally, I am a bit wiped after my P2, but that of course varies and some people feel great.

mybigbutt · 08-09-2010, 09:14 AM

I have celiac disease, so I can't eat most grains either.

You can do 21 days P3 and then a mini-load in between.

Did you do a complete round with your first round? Or did you skip P4 altogether?

Stevie Renee · 01-04-2011, 09:48 AM

Bump..a good thread for those curious about interruptions, cycling

cynaminbear · 01-04-2011, 03:11 PM

Thank you! I found it informative.

C'Marie · 01-04-2011, 10:59 PM

Thanks, me too!

minimonkey · 01-08-2011, 10:07 PM

Phadra... please, kindly, stop spamming our boards with multiple postings of the same material. This board supports a number of different protocols, and HCG is one of them. We aim for a supportive atmosphere all around. Thanks.

minimonkey · 01-08-2011, 11:44 PM

I see the posts to which I was referring are gone... ignore my previous comment.

almostdone · 05-02-2011, 02:23 AM

I'm also interested in cycling. I've done one round and I start on my second P3 soon. I'm not in a hurry to lose the last 20 (or whatever it ends up being) and cycling seemed a safe bet. I've lost around 40 pounds since January but I don't want the last 20 to come off that quick.

Has anyone had any success since they started cycling?

08-07-2010, 02:02 PM	#1
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08-07-2010, 08:04 PM	#3
walkingwoman Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 19,196 Gallery: walkingwoman WOE: maintaining 124-128 range Start Date: 2/1/13	Haven't read anything about it. How does it differ from the plan as written? Curious to read about it although I'm loving my results with the plan already. It might be something to try in the future though so any info you can provide would be appreciated. I always like to read about people's experiences.

08-08-2010, 10:23 AM	#4
Ladidah Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,759 Gallery: Ladidah	I think it means after P3, going right back on P2 without doing a P4. I'm considering doing that. Actually, I'm contemplating only doing 2 weeks of P3 and then starting a new round. I am on R1P3D4 and I am missing the simplicity of P2 eating right now.

08-08-2010, 10:41 AM	#6
Gilded Lily Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Happy Candy Sweet House Posts: 6,470 Gallery: Gilded Lily	This is my first round of hcg and I was all set to cycle. But I have been told that everyone should do p4 at least the first time. Something to do with stabalizing...

08-08-2010, 01:38 PM	#7
Kimberli33 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Montana Posts: 7,497 Gallery: Kimberli33 Stats: 200 /166/149? 5ft 6 1/2 in. Age 42 WOE: LC-My Way start 1/27 then JUDDD on 3/12 2 171.5lbs Start Date: Jan 27,2013 at 199 for the LAST time!	As long as my weight does not fluctuate too much I'm cycling back to P2 in 2 weeks.

08-08-2010, 04:06 PM	#9
CaTriGirl Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 683 Gallery: CaTriGirl Stats: 154/135/130-135 WOE: Lost 20 lbs w/hhcg Maintaining with JUDDD	I hope it's okay to post this, if not, I will delete it, I found this article on a website. Minimum Course In his book Pounds and Inches, Dr. Simeon’s says this under “Duration of Treatment”: We never give a treatment lasting less than 26 days, even in patients needing to lose only 5 pounds. It seems that even in the mildest cases of obesity the diencephalon requires about three weeks rest from the maximal exertion to which it has been previously subjected in order to regain fully its normal fat-banking capacity. Clinically this expresses itself in the fact that when in these mild cases treatment is stopped as soon as the weight is normal, which may be achieved in a week, it is much more easily regained than after a full course of 23 injections. So it stands to reason that you can do a SHORT course as per his instructions with NO issues. In doing SHORT cycles like this, you will then ward off any possibility of “Immunity” that Dr. Simeon’s talks about in his book. In any case, I have my thoughts on IMMUNITY as well; in so much as it is NOT the factor that Dr. Simeon’s thought it was in his day. The unfortunate thing is that Dr. Simeon’s passed long before he could complete his research – but really, this is a thought for another day. So we have established that 3 week cycles are AOK – now what about the breaks? Let’s look at what Dr. Simeon’s says about “Unforeseen Interruptions”: Unforeseen Interruptions Unforeseen Interruptions of Treatment If an interruption of treatment lasting more than four days is necessary, the patient must increase his diet to at least 800 Calories by adding meat, eggs, cheese, and milk to his diet after the third day, as otherwise he will find himself so hungry and weak that he is unable to go about his usual occupation. If the interval lasts less than two weeks the patient can directly resume injections and the 500-Calorie diet, but if the interruption lasts longer he must again eat normally until he has had his third injection. When a patient knows beforehand that he will have to travel and be absent for more than four days, it is always better to stop injections three days before he is due to leave so that he can have the three days of strict dieting which are necessary after the last injection at home. This saves him from the almost impossible task of having to arrange the 500 Calorie diet while en route, and he can thus enjoy a much greater dietary freedom from the day of his departure. Interruptions occurring before 20 effective injections have been given are most undesirable, because with less than that number of injections some weight is liable to be regained. After the 20th injection an unavoidable interruption is merely a loss of time. In other words, he says there would be situations that would be needed to be considered where you had to take a break, you would have to have AT LEAST 800 calories and that if the interruption was LESS than 14 days you go straight back into VLCD with your first dose of hCG, but if it were LONGER than 14 days you would eat NORMALLY for two days with hCG and then the THIRD DAY would be a VLCD day with a dose of hCG. And he also tells us that after the 20th injection, you are pretty safe – so are you beginning to see my line of reasoning in my breaks? I have chosen to keep my breaks while I am CYCLING this round to between 7 – 10 days long each. That is my choice. But you have until the 21st day on a break for it still to be considered a cycle because anything MORE than that would be an ENTIRE PHASE 3 break, and your round would be complete. A round is a COMPLETE Phase 2 and a COMPLETE Phase 3 – and then however many days you decide to do in Phase 4 – anything less than that it becomes a cycle (or it does in my world!). So then, what happens when I am breaking for 7 – 10 days? P3 Breaks You have to follow the same procedure as you do with a regular P3 break; you do it with NO sugars and NO starches. This cycling thing is not for the faint of heart, no ma’am. You must maintain during the short break or your time will be wasted. Believe me, I speak from experience. This last short break I took has been the best so far since I started cycling, as I have lost a total of 7 pounds in 7 days. I started at only 2.4 over my LIW – and within 48 hours I was already below LIW and into “virgin territory”. Let me illustrate: From LIW which was on August 18 (148.2) till today, September 9 (143.6) I have lost a total of 4.6 lbs in 21 days, of which only 10 of those days were VLCD, the other 11 days were spent maintaining and eating pretty much how I want. 4.6 lbs in 21 days on ANY weight loss program is pretty sweet. When you consider the loss of 4.6 lbs in 10 VLCD days? Well then, that is even MORE sweet. In other words, it WORKS for me. Last but not least, as with anyone with a bunch of data behind them, they know one thing for sure: LOSSES ARE BETTER AT THE BEGINNING OF A ROUND Yup! I didn’t have to tell you this did I? I like those monster losses at the beginning and my head is way more into the game then, so why should I suffer? At first, I was like everyone else, afraid this wouldn’t work after the first time, but here I am over 100 lbs lost later, and it is STILL working. So that being said, that is why I chose to CYCLE.

08-08-2010, 04:11 PM	#10
mybigbutt Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,352 Gallery: mybigbutt Stats: 224.6/215.8/120 WOE: hcg Start Date: 8/22/11	CTG - that is the post I read as well!

08-08-2010, 05:51 PM	#11
Joyful111 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 96 Gallery: Joyful111	I am cycling this round, but really don't have any info to share just yet. I am 2 days into VLCD for this Phase 2. Some people have a lot of variation between their rounds and their stabilization success even when they do the full phase 3 and 4 so I am not sure I would even be able to blame any change on cycling. Hopefully, though it will all just go as per usual and this freaking weight will be gone very soon! Hooray! I have one long round and one short round or three short rounds before I am done. If all goes well with cycling this round then I will continue to do it until the end.

08-08-2010, 05:58 PM	#12
mybigbutt Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,352 Gallery: mybigbutt Stats: 224.6/215.8/120 WOE: hcg Start Date: 8/22/11	Joyful, did you do a full 3-wk P3?

08-08-2010, 07:28 PM	#13
cookie34 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lake Elsinore, Ca Posts: 3,912 Gallery: cookie34 Stats: 273/186/150 WOE: VSG/Low Carb Start Date: 5/20/2012	When you cycle, do you do 2 load days before going back into P2?

08-08-2010, 08:00 PM	#15
mybigbutt Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,352 Gallery: mybigbutt Stats: 224.6/215.8/120 WOE: hcg Start Date: 8/22/11	You only load if you do more than 14 days - then it's one load day. 21 days or more and you need to load 2 days.

08-08-2010, 08:49 PM	#16
Joyful111 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 96 Gallery: Joyful111	Yes, I did a full three week P3. That worked best with my schedule. I loaded for 2 days because I didn't realize you could do one load day if you are cycling. That is good to know. The only change I have noticed thus far is that I only gained 2.6lbs while loading and actually lost weight after my second load day. But sometimes that happens to people even when they don't cycle so it might not have anything to do with it.

08-08-2010, 09:49 PM	#17
Snookie68 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 170 Gallery: Snookie68 WOE: hcg rx Start Date: May 17	Lots of very good info!

08-08-2010, 10:07 PM	#18
Joyful111 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 96 Gallery: Joyful111	Reading through what CaTriGirl posted, maybe I am not cycling. Maybe I am just skipping phase 4. Is that the same thing? Is there one official definition? I'm confused now!

08-09-2010, 04:29 AM	#19
mybigbutt Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,352 Gallery: mybigbutt Stats: 224.6/215.8/120 WOE: hcg Start Date: 8/22/11	Yes, cycling is basically skipping P4. the length of P3 for cyclers seems to vary.

08-09-2010, 07:54 AM	#20
cookie34 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lake Elsinore, Ca Posts: 3,912 Gallery: cookie34 Stats: 273/186/150 WOE: VSG/Low Carb Start Date: 5/20/2012	So.... do you seem to be losing just as fast on P2 when you skip P4?

08-09-2010, 07:58 AM	#21
cookie34 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lake Elsinore, Ca Posts: 3,912 Gallery: cookie34 Stats: 273/186/150 WOE: VSG/Low Carb Start Date: 5/20/2012	Also, when you loaded while cycling, did you still "gorge" and all kinds of high fat foods? Did you stay away from carbs or eat normal, eat anything you want, gorge foods?

08-09-2010, 08:45 AM	#22
sassy_red MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Central California Posts: 1,482 Gallery: sassy_red Stats: 230/192.2/145 - 5'8" WOE: HCG/Simeon's Protocol Start Date: 23 July '10 (R1P2) ~ 7 Sep '10 (R2P2)	My plan for R2 is to try and stabilize in P3 then go straight into another P2; that's kind of what I thought cycling was. Did I read right that some people do shortened P2's, basically getting the sped-up weightloss from the beginning of the cycle, then going to P3 for a while and repeating?

08-09-2010, 08:53 AM	#23
Joyful111 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 96 Gallery: Joyful111	Thanks for clarifying for me MBB. Up above the post said if you complete Phase 3 then you aren't cycling so that had me a bit confused as to what exactly you would be doing then. I am going to consider it cycling. Anyway no difference for me so far but it is early days. I think the main concern is that you won't stabilize properly, but my attitude is basically that when it comes time to maintain I will do whatever I need to do to make that happen. Also I am gluten intolerant and in fact can not eat even nongluten grains. Except for this last load, I haven't eaten sugar since 2002. I ate it this last load to help keep my appetite up. I don't really have any interest in adding much starch and sugar into my diet and since you don't develop immunity to hhcg, it seemed like cycling was worth a try. I don't think I could go only 7-10 days for a break though. Personally, I am a bit wiped after my P2, but that of course varies and some people feel great.

08-09-2010, 09:14 AM	#24
mybigbutt Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,352 Gallery: mybigbutt Stats: 224.6/215.8/120 WOE: hcg Start Date: 8/22/11	I have celiac disease, so I can't eat most grains either. You can do 21 days P3 and then a mini-load in between. Did you do a complete round with your first round? Or did you skip P4 altogether?

01-04-2011, 09:48 AM	#25
Stevie Renee Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 13,589 Gallery: Stevie Renee Start Date: July 2000	Bump..a good thread for those curious about interruptions, cycling

01-04-2011, 03:11 PM	#26
cynaminbear Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 61 Gallery: cynaminbear Stats: 175/114/114 WOE: Atkins/hcg Start Date: Atkins-February 1999/R1:10-10/R2:2-11/P4: 4-11	Thank you! I found it informative.

01-04-2011, 10:59 PM	#27
C'Marie Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,083 Gallery: C'Marie Stats: 270/down 110-ish/ goal 147 WOE: hCG Rx shots/JUDDD maintain Start Date: 1/4/2010 Now R9 P2	Thanks, me too!

01-08-2011, 10:07 PM	#28
minimonkey Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,027 Gallery: minimonkey Stats: 5'0" -- very small frame WOE: Clean eating, whole foods	Phadra... please, kindly, stop spamming our boards with multiple postings of the same material. This board supports a number of different protocols, and HCG is one of them. We aim for a supportive atmosphere all around. Thanks.

01-08-2011, 11:44 PM	#29
minimonkey Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,027 Gallery: minimonkey Stats: 5'0" -- very small frame WOE: Clean eating, whole foods	I see the posts to which I was referring are gone... ignore my previous comment.

05-02-2011, 02:23 AM	#30
almostdone Junior LCF Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 4 Gallery: almostdone WOE: HCG pellets Start Date: January 2011	I'm also interested in cycling. I've done one round and I start on my second P3 soon. I'm not in a hurry to lose the last 20 (or whatever it ends up being) and cycling seemed a safe bet. I've lost around 40 pounds since January but I don't want the last 20 to come off that quick. Has anyone had any success since they started cycling?