Simeons HCG protocol--August 2010

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by soontobesexy'ntx

no weight loss for me (after this weekend I really didn't expect any)
but my clothes feel so much looser (no Dawn I didn't mesure before I started this )
made P2 chili last night for supper (made enough for 4 sevings and froze what I didnt eat for supper)

Sweetie

I didn't measure either!!! I just went by clothing size.

[Healthy and Happy]

Originally Posted by Gilded Lily

Good luck on p3! I live a couple of hours from the GS Mountains and I love it there. I keep saying I'll go at Christmas but haven't made it yet. Are you there on Christmas Day or just during the Christmas season?

We spend Christmas Day here with extended family, and then drive up on the 26th and stay a week while the kids are still out of school. We it there, it's soooo beautiful! It's almost a 9 hr. drive for us though!

[cookie34]

supposedly if you don't do it by the protocol, you risk gaining. I don't know what to tell you in that aspect.. maybe you should do a couple more days of loading and really, really load. He does mention that some people load for up to a week.

[Ladidah]

Originally Posted by Gilded Lily

Ugh, how frustrating. I hope some of the vets will give you some good advice. Could you post your menus and what kinds of exercises you've been doing? Any new products or supplements? I gave up beef and seem to be doing better for now.

I tried giving up beef but it didn't make a difference. My menu for yesterday:
B: Coffee
L:Beef onion stir fry (in water/Bragg's amino acids), strawberries, grissini
D: Grilled chicken, celery (in broth), apple, grissini.
1 gallon of water - 1 glass of unsweetened iced tea

Nothing new as far as supplements/lotions/etc. I haven't done my normal 3x week runs for 2 weeks now (until today). I have hiked on the weekends, but bad weather/soreness have kept me from doing my normal workouts.

Originally Posted by thin in 2010

Ladidah, that's kind of what I was feeling too..... except for I had 3 off plan days thrown in there that was contibuting to the spinning of wheels. So I'm cutting this round off at VLCD 25 and I'm down exactly 14 lbs. not including load weight. I'm happy with that, but hope to lose 20 with my next P2. Only 21 day rounds from here on out!

I really wanted to lose 7 more this round. I'm down 15 but want more!

Originally Posted by dawnyama

I think that is why some do ONLY the short rounds. No use torturing yourself!! I lost 15 pounds on my short 21/23 days and that was enough for me. I would say cut your losses and look forward to P3 a bit earlier than scheduled. The P2 foods will stay good in the freezer til your next round. And at this point--maybe your body is saying "enough already". Good idea to listen than force it into something it doesn't want to do.

I think I will. I'll do 2 more vlcd days then move on. Thanks!

Originally Posted by mutantmomof4

Don't get discouraged, just move on to P3. My goal was to stop when my body stopped losing...sounds like you are there. 15lbs is a great amount of loss in one month! I think, as with any plan, our bodies get used to the way we are eating and learns how to hold on to the weight, the great thing about this plan is that it gives your body a break from losing, thus allowing you to sort of shock your body into losing again once you are done with P3 and P4 (which I've decided to actually do). I think this is what makes this such a successful way of losing. Enjoy P3!

Good theory. I think my body is getting used to it. Darn efficient body.

Originally Posted by paulabob

I'm having the same problem. Today is vlcd24 for me. It's related to TOM and the stomach bug as well. Also church potluck - I had 250 calories, but they weren't on protocol. Down a pound today, so at least my weight isn't rising anymore.
:

Just wanted you to know you aren't alone! I also sort of feel the same...stabilized at 500 calories a day. No hunger any more. But hopefully we've both just got water filling up our fat cells, and we are both due some big WHOOSHES soon!

BTW, I finally made the P2 chili and LOVED IT! Anyone who hasn't tried it go for it! YUM!

The chili rocks! I have 3 servings made up and I'll eat that for the rest of my vlcd meals. The grilled chicken I have left I can give to my dog, but he's not getting my chili!

Originally Posted by sassy_red

This is what I was going to suggest. It seems your body wants to stabilize here, why not let it? After a few weeks of P3 (and P4 if you're so inclined) do another P2 round and blow right past this stall.

I think I will cycle. I started running again today and I was down a pound after I returned (it was really humid and I sweated like crazy) and try to maintain.


Thanks for all the advice everyone, this thread is such a great resource and I really appreciate all the support.

Is is better to keep unused hhcg drops in the fridge if they aren't going to be used for awhile? I just got a fresh unopened bottle yesterday and have a bout 1/4 my old bottle left.

[Healthy and Happy]

So... do all of you with several short rounds done do a full 3 wk P3 and a full 3 wk P4? I'm trying to figure out when I can start my second round of P2.

Also, anyone using the MFC spray, could you please tell me how much space is at the top of a new bottle? I can't remember and I think I have enough left for a short round but not sure! It says it lasts 45-50 days and I've done 26 dosing days already and will need 23 dosing days for my second round. Any thoughts? Should I have enough?

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Ladidah

I think I will. I'll do 2 more vlcd days then move on. Thanks!




Thanks for all the advice everyone, this thread is such a great resource and I really appreciate all the support.

Is is better to keep unused hhcg drops in the fridge if they aren't going to be used for awhile? I just got a fresh unopened bottle yesterday and have a bout 1/4 my old bottle left.

I NEVER stored any of my Hhcg in the fridge. It is NOT necessary. I still have leftover opened bottles from last summer. I keep them in the cupboard in the kitchen--out of the light. They are still just fine! Just think--2 days til eggs cooked in butter!!! Yeah for P3!!!!!!!!!!!!

[torister]

Originally Posted by thin in 2010

So... do all of you with several short rounds done do a full 3 wk P3 and a full 3 wk P4? I'm trying to figure out when I can start my second round of P2.

I am just a newb, but I think if you are following Dr. S's protocol...yes you should take a 6 week break to let yourself reset your hypothalamus. I do know that lots of people cycle, but I prefer to follow according to the protocol and actually he recommends doing 4 week P3 and 4 week P4 after your 2nd round and before your third round of P2.

Of course we are all different.

[cookie34]

mmmmmmmmmmm P3.. I can almost taste it!

I lost .8 last night. Total of 10 pounds so far.

[soontobesexy'ntx]

Lad
are you salt sensitive?
broth or bullion and celery have alot of salt

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by walkingwoman

Dawn, I think that is a great idea. Easier for someone reading old posts too when they're considering the plan.

In other news, Dang! that chili is filling! I used more tomatoes than the recipe (I had a can of roasted tomatoes and the whole thing was 70 cals and I had the calories in my alotment for the day so I went for it We'll see what the scale thinks about my decision tomorrow or the next day Great day for it too. Even though it is still hot here (AZ) it is a rainy day and sitting inside in the airconditioning makes it easy to imagine it is a winter day. If my dh was still alive he'd turn the air down super low and light a fire in the fireplace He was very fun!

OH he sounds like he was a wonderful man!!! ( I LOVE WINTER!)

[cookie34]

Torister, what you do mean by some people cycle? How do they do that?

[torister]

Originally Posted by cookie34

Torister, what you do mean by some people cycle? How do they do that?

I guess cycling is not the correct term, but its when people do short rounds with not enough rest time in between. For example, they do a 23 day round and then only take 2-3 weeks P3 and go right back into their next round of P2.

For me, I really want this to work as I was so stuck in my weight loss. I also want the weight to stay off. After reading (& re-reading) Dr. S's protocol, I really think our bodies need that rest time in between rounds.

[BlueMonday]

Originally Posted by hollyree

BTW, for those that eat ground beef, the booklet that came with my hhcg says after cooking to rinse it in hot water This will get rid of more fat from the beef. Just be sure you wring it out well

What a strange piece of advice. Draining well is one thing, even blotting w/ a paper towel, but rinsing the ground beef in water -- yuck!!

I am actually planning on having a portion of the chili that I made late last week for lunch. Need to finish it off. But no rinsing will be involved unless you count all of the water I drink while eating it.

Down .2 today. I'll take it. Since I came down from my bounce yesterday, anything that moves in that direction is a good thing. If I stay on track it should continue for a bit more. Then maybe a bit of a woosh and another bounce (that just seems to be my pattern). I am not really averaging the .5 lbs per day, but as long as things progress I am OK with that.

I am really looking forward to P3 starting next Wed. Never thought I'd be so anxious to get back to my regular low-carb plan. It is going to seem like a treat!

[torister]

Originally Posted by cookie34

mmmmmmmmmmm P3.. I can almost taste it!

I lost .8 last night. Total of 10 pounds so far.

You are doing great!

[cookie34]

Who here does the short P3 round and skips P4? I am just wondering how they are doing and if thier weight is coming off and/or has stayed off.

[Ladidah]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

I NEVER stored any of my Hhcg in the fridge. It is NOT necessary. I still have leftover opened bottles from last summer. I keep them in the cupboard in the kitchen--out of the light. They are still just fine! Just think--2 days til eggs cooked in butter!!! Yeah for P3!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not even craving eggs in butter - but cheese and bacon! I'll put the drops in the cabinet.

Originally Posted by soontobesexy'ntx

Lad
are you salt sensitive?
broth or bullion and celery have alot of salt

The broth I bought is low sodium. It has been over a week, too, so if I was retaining water I'd have expected it to let loose sometime.

Originally Posted by BlueMonday

What a strange piece of advice. Draining well is one thing, even blotting w/ a paper towel, but rinsing the ground beef in water -- yuck!!

I saw that advice on TV a few years ago when low fat was so popular.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by torister

I guess cycling is not the correct term, but its when people do short rounds with not enough rest time in between. For example, they do a 23 day round and then only take 2-3 weeks P3 and go right back into their next round of P2.

For me, I really want this to work as I was so stuck in my weight loss. I also want the weight to stay off. After reading (& re-reading) Dr. S's protocol, I really think our bodies need that rest time in between rounds.

No, you are right. It is called cycling!!! I think the good doc had it right. He hasn't steered us wrong yet, has he!!????

[torister]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

No, you are right. It is called cycling!!! I think the good doc had it right. He hasn't steered us wrong yet, has he!!????

I was right! I don't know why I second guess myself!

Anyway, you are right...the good doc did have it right. I am listening to him believe me I am!

[RenoMom]

Good morning ladies....... funny we have no men in here, LOL.

Well I was down .5 today which is good. I am on Depo but since doing this I have been having TOM, this week has been horrible, cramps and all. I am going to look into another form of BC because I know depo is one that is related to much weight gain. This HHCG is working so that I will not stop.

We had a friend(s) over for dinner Sunday and she was very interested in the HHCG, she seen my drops on the counter, she works at a Dr office and thought I was trying to get pregnant She has a wedding coming up and can't find a dress. I gave her my P&I that I printed and she went to the local Health Food Store and bought the drops yesterday. We are going to start walking 2 miles in the evening together. It will be nice to have the support for each of us.

[DJ]

Originally Posted by Gilded Lily

For me the hunger lasted about 2 days. When the hcg gets in your system, the hunger just stops for the most part. Hang in there!!!

thanks guys

i think i figured out some of the issue...i started a higher dose of a supplement i'm taking for insulin resistance yesterday too, and i've noticed it makes me hungry. i laid off it today and i feel ok so far.

i somehow was still able to be a half lb down this morning so i'm gonna stick through it a while longer.

[walkingwoman]

Morning Releasers!

Wow, lots of activity this morning! Congrats to everyone for making wise decisions! I'm on the fence as to whether to extend my round or not. I would love to hit 20 pounds as that is my goal weight but we shall see. I'm down another 1/2 pound for 14.5 pounds total and today is my 2 week anniversary for starting the VLCD I'll take it! I'm still amazed at how this plan works. It's crazy I think I've eaten all the stuff that I've been warned were potential stallers including eating beef everyday for the last 4 or 5 days? No problems here so if you're on the fence as to whether or not you can eat them and you really want them, I suggest giving them a try. We're all different and our bodies respond differently. I'm all about my steak for lunch these days

Here's todays menu: R1P2VLCD15
Grilled steak in my fave marinade, sauteed spinach with garlic, sliced apple
Grilled lobster tail, grilled asparagus and sliced strawberries
Water, water and more water with some unsweetened tea and 2 club sodas.

[mybigbutt]

Originally Posted by DJ

thanks guys

i think i figured out some of the issue...i started a higher dose of a supplement i'm taking for insulin resistance yesterday too, and i've noticed it makes me hungry. i laid off it today and i feel ok so far.

i somehow was still able to be a half lb down this morning so i'm gonna stick through it a while longer.

Yay! Definitely stick it out. You will be very happy you did. I have massive hunger my first 2 LCDs (esp the second one), but now very little. I was hungry yesterday (VLCD16), but today I feel great again. TOM is coming up in a couple of days so I am thinking that may be it.

Of course, i am no doc but I think you probably don't need the insulin resistance supplement while eating this way. But, talk to your doc about that since I have no business dispensing medical advice!

[DJ]

Originally Posted by mybigbutt

Yay! Definitely stick it out. You will be very happy you did. I have massive hunger my first 2 LCDs (esp the second one), but now very little. I was hungry yesterday (VLCD16), but today I feel great again. TOM is coming up in a couple of days so I am thinking that may be it.

Of course, i am no doc but I think you probably don't need the insulin resistance supplement while eating this way. But, talk to your doc about that since I have no business dispensing medical advice!

I was actually thinking about that too - I'm gonna call and ask him about it. I feel so much better physically right now. Also, I noticed the bottle of the supplement I got is WAY higher than what he suggested. I didn't think to check when I bought it.

[paulabob]

Originally Posted by DJ

I was actually thinking about that too - I'm gonna call and ask him about it. I feel so much better physically right now. Also, I noticed the bottle of the supplement I got is WAY higher than what he suggested. I didn't think to check when I bought it.

Can I ask what supplements your doctor recommended? I'm assuming they are over the counter...

[DJ]

Originally Posted by paulabob

Can I ask what supplements your doctor recommended? I'm assuming they are over the counter...

i think it's alpha lipoic acid. there's a few others he wants me on for cortisol and an adrenal complex, but i ordered them online and they're still not here yet. i feel great physically right now though, which is really great considering the recent mono.

[Victrola]

I've done the rinsing ground beef in hot water thing. It's not a big deal if the beef is then going to be mixed with something else!

[MellaBella]

All of your posts continue to inspire me!

Second day of loading for me, I'm already feeling kind of but will push ahead!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by RenoMom

Good morning ladies....... funny we have no men in here, LOL.

Well I was down .5 today which is good. I am on Depo but since doing this I have been having TOM, this week has been horrible, cramps and all. I am going to look into another form of BC because I know depo is one that is related to much weight gain. This HHCG is working so that I will not stop.

We had a friend(s) over for dinner Sunday and she was very interested in the HHCG, she seen my drops on the counter, she works at a Dr office and thought I was trying to get pregnant She has a wedding coming up and can't find a dress. I gave her my P&I that I printed and she went to the local Health Food Store and bought the drops yesterday. We are going to start walking 2 miles in the evening together. It will be nice to have the support for each of us.

You are so lucky!! I wish there were somewhere local I could go and get some drops!!! Happy walking!!! I couldn't go that far, but felt that walking helped me so much I did it rain or shine!

[walkingwoman]

We can get the drops locally for 69 bucks at the healthfood store for 1 oz so it's a no-go for me. I'll wait my few days shipping and pay my 10 bucks for 2 oz.

[torister]

Originally Posted by MellaBella

All of your posts continue to inspire me!

Second day of loading for me, I'm already feeling kind of but will push ahead!

This too shall pass! I can *totally* relate to how you are feeling though! Its not a pleasant thing.