TIPS FOR P2 OF DR. SIMEONS PROTOCOL

[machis]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Since you are on the homeopathic you wait 48 hours after your last dose of hcg before eating P3 style. When you are done with the 48 hours (and eating P2 still) you start P3--that means bring on the bacon and eggs for breakfast!!! You do not wait til your appetite catches up to you, because it just might not. P3 is what Dr Simeon's calls the "no sugar no starch" phase. That is what is P3. Based on that, you can eat what you want. you don't have to wait for a week to add in turkey or cheese. You can have that on Day #1 of P3 if you wish!!! Imagine eating a real salad, or greek yogurt or even bacon on your first day of P3!! Yum, I can imagine that now!!! Good luck!!! Once you are done with 3 weeks of P3 you do 3 weeks of P4 and then you can do another round of hcg. That is how I lost my weight. I did a number of rounds as it is laid out in Pounds and Inches.

Dawnyama -

My husband has done phenomenally well on P & I! He's lost 35 lbs in 40 days!!! He is super-excited! When I read him your response regarding P3 & P4, he became concerned that he would begin to put the weight back on during the new phases. I explained about the steak day to correct anything more than a 2-lb gain, but he still is uneasy.

So - he wants to know if it would be a problem to take the 48 hrs off the hcg, have a "happy meal" (one "splurge" meal), then go back on the drops and the P2 eating protocols. His goal is to lose 80 lbs. total. He is reluctant to loosen the reins yet because he doesn't want to give back the ground he's worked so hard to gain.

Ideas?

Thanks!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by machis

Dawnyama -

My husband has done phenomenally well on P & I! He's lost 35 lbs in 40 days!!! He is super-excited! When I read him your response regarding P3 & P4, he became concerned that he would begin to put the weight back on during the new phases. I explained about the steak day to correct anything more than a 2-lb gain, but he still is uneasy.

So - he wants to know if it would be a problem to take the 48 hrs off the hcg, have a "happy meal" (one "splurge" meal), then go back on the drops and the P2 eating protocols. His goal is to lose 80 lbs. total. He is reluctant to loosen the reins yet because he doesn't want to give back the ground he's worked so hard to gain.

Ideas?

Thanks!

Sure!! That is what is called an interruption. I just did one and am going back to P2. Good thing is you don't have to load before going back to the hcg. As long as you are doing the homeopathic hcg, you do the 500 + the 48 hours. If he is on the Rx, you do 72 hours of the 500 calories. I feel that everyone is so scared to gain the weight back in P3, but it really does work. If it didn't I wouldn't be doing it for the 9th time Just read through some of the threads where people are scared to eat fat and gain the weight and some are shocked at how much calories they get to eat AND have their weight stay the same......or better yet, even drop a bit. He will be pleasantly surprised. You have to remind him to follow the rules though. They are there for a reason, you don't follow the no sugar no starch and that is a guarantee that it won't work!! He will do fine.

[machis]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Sure!! That is what is called an interruption. I just did one and am going back to P2. Good thing is you don't have to load before going back to the hcg. As long as you are doing the homeopathic hcg, you do the 500 + the 48 hours. If he is on the Rx, you do 72 hours of the 500 calories. I feel that everyone is so scared to gain the weight back in P3, but it really does work. If it didn't I wouldn't be doing it for the 9th time Just read through some of the threads where people are scared to eat fat and gain the weight and some are shocked at how much calories they get to eat AND have their weight stay the same......or better yet, even drop a bit. He will be pleasantly surprised. You have to remind him to follow the rules though. They are there for a reason, you don't follow the no sugar no starch and that is a guarantee that it won't work!! He will do fine.

We are both relieved to read your reply dawnyama!

For me personally, I am most concerned about healing my hypothalamus. I figure once that gets on track, my weight issues will get on track as well. So if we do the interruption, will that compromise the gains my hypothalamus has made during the 40 days?

I am asking because we are relocating out of state on Tuesday and we wanted to enjoy our favorite restaurants one last time. Not talking about a "gorge tour" of all our favorites, but definitely a couple of favs before we hit the road. How long can we do the interruption before we would have to go back to the load? Don't really want to do that again. We're thinking of only a few days before we get back to the business of losing the lard. And although I'm currently at the mid-way point in my own lard loss journey, I am willing to go back on P2 when my husband does to help support him. AND I do better when I have an accountability partner to encourage me to stay focused.

Thanks, Dawn!

[machis]

Originally Posted by machis

We are both relieved to read your reply dawnyama!

For me personally, I am most concerned about healing my hypothalamus. I figure once that gets on track, my weight issues will get on track as well. So if we do the interruption, will that compromise the gains my hypothalamus has made during the 40 days?

I am asking because we are relocating out of state on Tuesday and we wanted to enjoy our favorite restaurants one last time. Not talking about a "gorge tour" of all our favorites, but definitely a couple of favs before we hit the road. How long can we do the interruption before we would have to go back to the load? Don't really want to do that again. We're thinking of only a few days before we get back to the business of losing the lard. And although I'm currently at the mid-way point in my own lard loss journey, I am willing to go back on P2 when my husband does to help support him. AND I do better when I have an accountability partner to encourage me to stay focused.

Thanks, Dawn!

I guess what I'm asking is, how long is it an interruption before it actually becomes falling on the proverbial wagon?

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by machis

I guess what I'm asking is, how long is it an interruption before it actually becomes falling on the proverbial wagon?

In Pounds and Inches Dr Simeons says that an interruption should last NO longer than 14 days. I usually do about a week. I love the breaks just to get in some fat that my body craves. Funny how after 3 weeks of being so low fat all I want is a salad with blue cheese dressing. But it doesn't mean you can have an all our carb food fest. While on a break you still need to follow the rules of P3--that is eat no sugar or no starches. If you do, that is what sets you back in your weight loss/resetting the hypothalamus. Have fun!!!

[machis]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

In Pounds and Inches Dr Simeons says that an interruption should last NO longer than 14 days. I usually do about a week. I love the breaks just to get in some fat that my body craves. Funny how after 3 weeks of being so low fat all I want is a salad with blue cheese dressing. But it doesn't mean you can have an all our carb food fest. While on a break you still need to follow the rules of P3--that is eat no sugar or no starches. If you do, that is what sets you back in your weight loss/resetting the hypothalamus. Have fun!!!

Awesome! This is a HUGE help! Dr. Simeons P & I is brilliant, but a tad convoluted. I really need something that is much more structured and tells me what comes next...and after that...and what follows that, etc. This helps bring more structure to where we are in the moment. Thanks!

[machis]

Well...we have done 10 days of interruption and at the same time we moved from Florida to Virginia! We started back on the P2 protocol this morning and are glad to get back into losing mode! The interruption was fun but after all our work to lose the weight, we did not want to give up ground we worked to gain!

[machis]

Question: After doing a 10-day interruption, is it necessary to do the steak & apple day, or do we just start back on P2 protocol? We want to continue to lose weight as we are not at our desired goals yet. Thanks for the help!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by machis

Question: After doing a 10-day interruption, is it necessary to do the steak & apple day, or do we just start back on P2 protocol? We want to continue to lose weight as we are not at our desired goals yet. Thanks for the help!

What do you mean steak and apple day?? I don't know about that one. That also means that after all the breaks I have done while doing hcg, I have never done one!!

[TerriMM]

Originally Posted by machis

Question: After doing a 10-day interruption, is it necessary to do the steak & apple day, or do we just start back on P2 protocol? We want to continue to lose weight as we are not at our desired goals yet. Thanks for the help!

Typically you would start your dosing for two days just like when you first started. Load only with high fat, low carb foods to avoid any more gain (as much as possible). After two days jump right back on P2.

Apple days are to break a stall on P2. Steak days are to aid in reducing your weight back into your window on P3.

How did you do on your interruption? How much did you gain? What kind of foods did you eat?

[machis]

Originally Posted by TerriMM

How did you do on your interruption? How much did you gain? What kind of foods did you eat?

We did well on our interruption...ate pretty much what we wanted...and we were so surprised to find that we got full so fast!!! OMG!!! Just to try to finish a normal portion, I felt like I was gorging! That kinda took the fun out of the freedom to eat what I wanted, until I adjusted how much I ate at one time. I went ahead and had wine and fried foods (once on the fried stuff...but later felt burpy and queasy...didn't do that again!), and the occasional desert...even had the Pumpkin Spice Frappaccino from Starbucks! But - as I stated earlier - we were looking forward to getting back to the disciplined eating again. We were getting a bit anxious about the possibility of a runaway appetite again, but that didn't happen.

I gained five pounds in 10 days. I didn't weigh while on the interruption because we were on the road and it didn't make sense to add that stress to the upheaval we were already managing with the move to Virginia. It was a relief to see that I had gained "only" five pounds, though. This body can pack on the weight really, **really** fast, so five pounds was okay. It was funny to me that I lose about 1/2 pound/day on the Simeons diet, and only gained 1/2 pound/day on the interruption. My husband gained more, but he drops it really quick on this diet, too.

Once we got back on P2, I lost one pound the first day; he lost four!!! Wish I could lose like that! Today he lost one pound and I lost .6. Grrrr....

Staying focused is the hard part for me. Thanksgiving is coming up in a few days and we're up here away from friends and family...not a reason to "console" myself with food, but still trying to figure out what wisdom would dictate during that holiday.

Any ideas?? What are you guys doing for Thanksgiving?

Thanks for the support! I always look forward to reading your posts, everyone!!

[machis]

Did anyone read the announcement that all the LCF forums are being discontinued as of Nov. 21? So very sad....

[Doing It Right]

Machis I think this only apply to those that have personal blogs, not the forums or threads.

Tonya

[machis]

Originally Posted by Doing It Right

Machis I think this only apply to those that have personal blogs, not the forums or threads.

Tonya

Has this happened before, Tonya? Since I'm so new to this site, I took it at face value. But the way the announcement was worded, it didn't exactly sound vague...I hope it doesn't mean they're pulling "our" blogs! You guys have been so awesome...I'd hate to lose contact with everyone!

[Doing It Right]

I've only been here since January, and haven't seen anything like this. I really don't think it will affect anything but personal blogs. I know I don't have one but have read a few. Hopefully someone else will chime in but I think this is something you create and have a link for either in your signature or on the left with your personal info. Don't panic yet, I don't think it will apply to any of these threads, or the threads on the other diet plans either. Otherwise everyone would be in a panic!

[machis]

Originally Posted by Doing It Right

I've only been here since January, and haven't seen anything like this. I really don't think it will affect anything but personal blogs. I know I don't have one but have read a few. Hopefully someone else will chime in but I think this is something you create and have a link for either in your signature or on the left with your personal info. Don't panic yet, I don't think it will apply to any of these threads, or the threads on the other diet plans either. Otherwise everyone would be in a panic!

Whew! Couldn't imagine going the rest of the way without you guys!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by machis

Did anyone read the announcement that all the LCF forums are being discontinued as of Nov. 21? So very sad....

Yes, I was confused when I read this as well. As a long time LCFer, I was a bit worried. But then realized I don't have a blog!! And we don't blog--what we have here is called a forum. So unless they discontinue any forums then we are all good

[machis]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Yes, I was confused when I read this as well. As a long time LCFer, I was a bit worried. But then realized I don't have a blog!! And we don't blog--what we have here is called a forum. So unless they discontinue any forums then we are all good

I am considered a computer geek by others in my age group (mid-50's), but then I haul off and totally get something wrong as simple as that announcement - maybe having an ADD geek day!? LOL

Now I'm really fighting with myself - this round seemed harder than the first one. Part of it has been emotional - we've moved 12 hours from our family and friends...not homesick, but moving to Virginia from tropical Florida is like moving from Venus to Pluto or something...kinda surreal - and part of it has been how stubborn my body has been about holding on to the lard.

I decided to get off the hCG and move toward P3 after doing a one-day interruption for Thanksgiving this week. Now that the decision has been made - I'm dropping weight like crazy! And lovin' it!!!

So now I'm horribly conflicted, of course. Do I do the one-day interruption and hop right back on P2? Or do I cruise a little bit and do P3 since I'm also struggling with diet fatigue? I would love to add some fats to my diet so P3 sounds great. But you don't really lose on P3, do you? (I've never done P3) It's more like a maintenance phase?

Help me out here, please, all you wise veterans. Need your counsel and input since today is scheduled to be my last hCG drops day in preparation for my fun day Thursday.

Thanks, guys!

[Ms.Lisa]

Well I'm new to this, but I've been researching alot on this and found this site today so i joined Anyways I'm on my 1st day of P2 after my 2 days of loading... feeling pretty good and I haven't been hungry... all these post are Great!!!

[machis]

Did two weeks of interruptions, started back on my drops yesterday but was half-hearted in getting back into P2. Then tonite I heard on Nightline on ABC that the Feds are pulling hCG from the market! They've said it's worse than worthless - it's harmful!!! OMG!!! Is this on anyone else's radar? They declared it to be a "fad diet." How can something that has been around since the 1940's & 50's be a "fad?!"

My sweet husband has lost over 50 pounds since he started on September 18. It has revolutionized his self-esteem and confidence. What do they expect us to use now that's "safe" - Dexatrim? SlimFast? Or some other lab-created chemical cocktail instead of something as natural as hCG?

Oops! I've slipped into a rant. My bad. But this is highly disturbing.

[machis]

Here is the link to Nightline's page with the article on hCG being pulled. I didn't bother to watch their video clips on the website because I saw the report on TV.

FDA, FTC Crack Down on Illegal HCG Diet Products - ABC News

[dawnyama]

The good folks here at LCFs have a post about it:

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/hc...ts-market.html

Who knows what will happen now to our little secret weight loss miracle.

[nina853]

Hi I am also new to hcg. I am on r1p2d9. I did well the first 5 days and since I have been stalled. I figured out why! I was buying pre cooked chicken in the large bag. Since I am 58 and cannot read w/o my glasses it took me several reads to see sugar listed on the ingred., crap. So,,now I will cook my on chicken unless someone knows a brand w/o sugar. If I dont cook it myself I dont know what is in it.
I have a skin disorder I take meds for. For now I am controlling it with D3 and Zyrtec. The d3 is a tiny cap in oil. Wondering if I should change. The oil based works much better.

Very glad I can back to this site and found hcg section.

Thanks
nina

the stats below are wrong! that was many years ago. I weigh much more now. Must figure out how to remove those.

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by nina853

Hi I am also new to hcg. I am on r1p2d9. I did well the first 5 days and since I have been stalled. I figured out why! I was buying pre cooked chicken in the large bag. Since I am 58 and cannot read w/o my glasses it took me several reads to see sugar listed on the ingred., crap. So,,now I will cook my on chicken unless someone knows a brand w/o sugar. If I dont cook it myself I dont know what is in it.
I have a skin disorder I take meds for. For now I am controlling it with D3 and Zyrtec. The d3 is a tiny cap in oil. Wondering if I should change. The oil based works much better.

Very glad I can back to this site and found hcg section.

Thanks
nina

the stats below are wrong! that was many years ago. I weigh much more now. Must figure out how to remove those.

i continue to take my D3 while dosing HTH

[debkeversole]

putting this here so i don't forget it

HCG Phase 2 - Biz's Smoothie Recipe


This is an amazing and filling smoothie! Don't let the spinach or the color throw you off, you can taste a hint of it but the cocoa really masks the flavor. One of these makes a lot and is very filling.
Minutes to Prepare: 10
Number of Servings: 1

Ingredients

3 oz. Lowfat cottage Cheese (1%)
5 oz. frozen unsweetened strawberries
3 oz. spinach
1 T. unsweetened cocoa
1 - 2 pkts stevia
1 c. water



Directions
Blend all ingredients in the blender until smooth. The water is approximate, you only need enough so that all the ingredients blend well.

i usually put a dash of vanilla extract in it too

[icecreamjunkie]

bumping to subscribe

[adelinesdream]

did this thread stop, it's sooooooooooo interesting, last post looks like 01-17-12.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by adelinesdream

did this thread stop, it's sooooooooooo interesting, last post looks like 01-17-12.

This is not a continuous thread like our others. When you have a tip to contribute, then you post here! The regular daily posting thread is here:

P2 Simeon's Protocol Week of 4/9

Join in over there!!

[Berta48]

Been lurking on Recipe page had to get out of there

[martiangurll]

Is 1% cottage cheese an acceptable protein per Simeon's protocol? Anyone have problems stalling when they added it?