Simeons HCG protocol--July 2010

[mutantmomof4]

Thank you everybody!

soontobesexy'ntx - look at you go! Onderland is right around the corner...I'm sooooo thrilled for you.

[Kimberli33]

Hey Ladies-Glad to see you Mutantmom (was afraid we lost you)

Finished VLCD #1 at 182.0lbs for another 3lbs loss so total of 5.9 lbs in 3 days since I lost while loading or 3lbs in 1 day

Preload weight: 190.4
load day # 1 187.9
load day # 2 185.0
VLCD # 1 182.0

Regardless more than I've ever see the scale do before

[Kimberli33]

Ok,how do I put my journal link in my siggy?Thanks

[DrunkenSailor]

I'm thinking of giving this a try. I read "Pounds and Inches" last night and maybe someone can explain a few things to me:

-- Why stop the treatment during menstruation? Doesn't this make you extra hungry?

-- Is it really critical to stop taking vitamins?

-- To stop using any topical lotions, oils, cosmetics?

-- About how much is 100 grams of lean raw protein? What is this in ounces? What kind of scale works well?

Thanks! I'll probably have more questions later.

[doxielove]

Would anyone have an idea as to why I get so lightheaded and dizzy on hhcg? Or why I get such terrible upper back/shoulder pain that goes away if I stop taking it? I tried searching but can't find any answers on the internet. Should I take supplements?

[FatFatnomore]

Originally Posted by mutantmomof4

Hello all. I'm still doing really well, I'm not posting much because I just can't (with all the food obsession I have) read all the posts about the foods I can't have...

I am doing really well, I think a little too well. I'm already down 21lbs my weight loss has not slowed down, the least I've lost is 1.4lbs several days ago.

But last week you said you had stalled for 3 days and were ready to do an apple day, right? Did you do an apple day to kick start the weight loss again?

Originally Posted by mutantmomof4

Good morning all. Same weight again today, this is day three at the same weight, if I am the same weight tomorrow morning I will start my very first apple day. Because of TOM (I usually gain up to 20lbs) should I actually consider this a stall? The same weight 3 days in a row after many days of losing 3-4lbs daily...I guess that can be considured The Plateau right? I have my apples and am ready to see the scale move again. Happy with my results to date and am not discouraged at all!

Either way I think you're doing great and I wouldn't let the weight loss stress you out. It will even out and I doubt you'll have any problem stabilizing since I know you'll follow P&I when you're in p3 and p4

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by DrunkenSailor

I'm thinking of giving this a try. I read "Pounds and Inches" last night and maybe someone can explain a few things to me:

-- Why stop the treatment during menstruation? Doesn't this make you extra hungry?

-- Is it really critical to stop taking vitamins?

-- To stop using any topical lotions, oils, cosmetics?

-- About how much is 100 grams of lean raw protein? What is this in ounces? What kind of scale works well?

Thanks! I'll probably have more questions later.

Maybe you should read it again!! The answers are there!! The stopping of hcg during TOM is because the hcg is naturally released in your body at that time. No need for any extra!! Anyhow, some do stop some don't. It is up to you. And if you do stop, you will not be hungry, or that is the theory. Everyone is different though. The hhcg stays in your system for at least 48 hours. For the vitamins--you HAVE to stop taking ANY and ALL oil based vitamins. Simple as you won't die in 21 days without a mulit--at least that is my feeling And yes, I stopped all lotions on my first round. No oils in P2!!! That is a very strict rule--only mineral oil is allowed. Fortunately there are oil free products on the market now. All of this information can be found on the last few pages of this thread---I suggest you do a bit of research as all these questions are quite common and already answered, several times!!! The 100 grams is 3.5 oz weighed before cooking. And yes, you need a kitchen scale as well as a good bathroom scale!!

[Healthy and Happy]

I thought it was discovered that the Dr. was wrong about hcg being released during TOM? Anyhow, I don't plan on stopping during TOM.

[mybigbutt]

I am always so hungry during TOM that I will probably dose through it as well.

[RenoMom]

WTG all you losers I'm off to Reno again, G-ma is keeping the kids for 2.5 days so I can get some work done. Then we are taking them to Magic Mountain on Saturday. This should be interesting, LOL.

I have released another 1lb for a total of 20lbs in 20 days I looked over my journal and it seems that once I lose a pound I keep it for a day and then lose 1/2 and then nothing and then another pound again, LOL. This protocol is awesome!!!

Questions - Can we have beans on ph3, and what about corn, I know its a starchy veggie, but not really a starch?

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by thin in 2010

I thought it was discovered that the Dr. was wrong about hcg being released during TOM? Anyhow, I don't plan on stopping during TOM.

Originally Posted by mybigbutt

I am always so hungry during TOM that I will probably dose through it as well.

And no need not to!! I am not quite sure why he stated that, just rewriting what I have heard on other boards. I am sure any other reason is just as good. Who knows what was on the good doctor's mind??? I just wish he were to around to "modernize" things!!

And I have stated before that I have done it both ways. The one time I did stop during TOM, I did that round hungry. Not sure if it was coincidence or not, but I have not stopped dropping the Hhcg during TOM since!!! LOL.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by RenoMom

WTG all you losers I'm off to Reno again, G-ma is keeping the kids for 2.5 days so I can get some work done. Then we are taking them to Magic Mountain on Saturday. This should be interesting, LOL.

I have released another 1lb for a total of 20lbs in 20 days I looked over my journal and it seems that once I lose a pound I keep it for a day and then lose 1/2 and then nothing and then another pound again, LOL. This protocol is awesome!!!

Questions - Can we have beans on ph3, and what about corn, I know its a starchy veggie, but not really a starch?

NO BEANS AND NO CORN!!! They are both starches. You have to wait until P4 for them.

[FatFatnomore]

Congrats on the awesome loss Reno!!!!!

Have fun at magic mountain!

I didn't do beans or corn on p3, but I'm not sure if it's allowed or not. I just didn't use them because I followed my normal low carb diet while I was on p3. I'm sure one of the more knowledgeable girls will have a better answer for you.

[RenoMom]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

NO BEANS AND NO CORN!!! They are both starches. You have to wait until P4 for them.

bummer on the beans Thank you.

[RenoMom]

Originally Posted by FatFatnomore

Congrats on the awesome loss Reno!!!!!

Have fun at magic mountain!

I didn't do beans or corn on p3, but I'm not sure if it's allowed or not. I just didn't use them because I followed my normal low carb diet while I was on p3. I'm sure one of the more knowledgeable girls will have a better answer for you.

Thanks, I was doing South Beach and could have beans. I have not done Atkins in years, but it sounds like that's the way to go for Ph3

[Healthy and Happy]

Wow, Reno, you're doing great!

[Selahgal]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

I just got in from my weekend away. Having NO internet access was difficult, but we had a blast!!! Here are some pictures from the trip!!! I am still trying to read all the posts from this weekend to get caught up but might not have a chance before we leave for the funeral in the morning. I am a bit afraid of the scale in the morning, but have my ribeyes in the fridge!! I have invited my family to my steak day tomorrow!! Steaks for everyone!!

Glad you enjoyed your celebrations! I know you feel as wonderful as you look !!!! Thanks for sharing these and for being an inspiration to us all!

[FatFatnomore]

Marci, so glad to see you posting! Haven't "seen" you in a while. How are you doing?

[dawnyama]

For those who wanted a P3 ice cream you can find the recipe/recipes here:

Question About Making Ice Cream

I got an ice cream maker last year for my birthday just so I could make a sugar free P3 compliant ice cream. Have not even made it yet!! But will be making it this weekend, for sure. After my "vacation weight" is gone!!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Selahgal

Glad you enjoyed your celebrations! I know you feel as wonderful as you look !!!! Thanks for sharing these and for being an inspiration to us all!

Thanks Marci!! I must say...you are looking marvelous in your new avi!! Love it!!

[mutantmomof4]

Originally Posted by FatFatnomore

But last week you said you had stalled for 3 days and were ready to do an apple day, right? Did you do an apple day to kick start the weight loss again?



Either way I think you're doing great and I wouldn't let the weight loss stress you out. It will even out and I doubt you'll have any problem stabilizing since I know you'll follow P&I when you're in p3 and p4

Yep, I've had a stall, but my loss days have been 3lbs and over for the most part, I've had a couple 4.4s, so yes, this is even with TOM and the stall, and no I did not do the apple day as I had the loss that very next morning. I'm telling you, my losses have been odd...my dh has commented, I'm already getting comments at work, I see it most in my face, waist and hands, but apparently it is all over (my sister commented on the rolls on my back).

I did consider that it might be my scale (which is a WW scale that I purchased about two months ago) so I changed the batteries, no change in the weight. I'm not exercising (which I wanted to start this week but have not, I think I will save it for P3) I am not weak, I'm sleeping well (did not the first few days) oh, I'm in clothing that I never thought I would be in until the end of summer.

I'm not complaining, just hoping I'm not hurting myself and will be able to finish. I love hhcg, I wiish I'd known about it years ago!

I read on another board about a guy that lost 47lbs his first round...he only did the short round...but that is a man, they tend to lose quicker. I've only had one day that I've lost under 2lbs.

[walkingwoman]

What's on your menu for today? I'm being cautiously creative

100 gm. Cod filet in a foil pack with italian seasoning blend, steamed spinach with garlic, sliced tomato wtih seasalt and ground pepper, bread stick.

100 gm. beef kebab with greek seasoning, cabbage sauteed with a splash of vinegar, garlic and seasalt, apple slices, bread stick.

I was getting scale obsessed so I'm not weighing again until the weekend. I bought a toaster oven over the weekend to make easy meals (Plus, since I am saving so much on groceries, it's nice to put that money into making this a simple plan)
I made lemon icecubes yesterday. I sliced a lemon very thin and put them in the tray and added my water. Makes my water look pretty

[DrunkenSailor]

Thanks for the TOM perspectives. If HCG is only found in pregnant women, I didn't think it would appear during menstruation. Plus I'm always hungry before and during TOM.

What about non-oil based vitamins or supplements? I thought I read that a few people were taking extra potassium for example.

[Kimberli33]

I was sooo hungry,cranky,and sick feeling yesterday and now today no appetite,feel good,energy,lolYesterday I was seriously wondering how I was gonna do this...
My menu for today

ground beef cooked w/ onion and garlic powder
cucs
grissini
strawberries
Repeat

[Kimberli33]

I think my scale is mad at me Lol

It can't handle that I'm losing weight.I got on there 3 x today to get an average and got 182lbs eachx so sure it is on track.Went back a few hrs. later to see if I lost more after a BM:blush:ya weird me...lol..anyways it starts freaking out on me saying Error-Hi Error-Lo Error Error JEALOUS thingHad to go to my other scale for reinforcement.

[kimcox99]

If you can not find melba toast, can you eat crackers or eliminate the melba altogether and add more cucumbers maybe?

Edited to add: Also if you want have no intention of add carbs back into your diet, can you continue to eat like P3 during P4, and then do another round of HCG or even possibly go back to Atkins? I just feel better eating low carb and not plan on eating too many carbs, maybe only special occasions.

[mybigbutt]

Originally Posted by DrunkenSailor

Thanks for the TOM perspectives. If HCG is only found in pregnant women, I didn't think it would appear during menstruation. Plus I'm always hungry before and during TOM.

What about non-oil based vitamins or supplements? I thought I read that a few people were taking extra potassium for example.

I am taking potassium and B-Complex. Just read the ingredients to be sure there is nothing added in that you can't have.

[Kimberli33]

Originally Posted by kimcox99

If you can not find melba toast, can you eat crackers or eliminate the melba altogether and ad more cucumbers maybe?

I had trouble finding it and grissini too.I was looking in with the crackers it was by the fresh breads in my grocers

[mybigbutt]

Originally Posted by kimcox99

If you can not find melba toast, can you eat crackers or eliminate the melba altogether and ad more cucumbers maybe?

I skip it altogether because I can't have gluten. Believe me, it's plenty easy to increase the cals with veggies! Just increase the veggies you are already eating for that meal. It won;'t be much - I think melba toast is 45 cals.

[PaisleyMae]

Hey ladies! WOW MutantMom, your losses are truly FANTASTIC!!! Reno, you are doing so well too, I am just so happy for you guys!!!

Hi to all the newbies! You will love it here, this board and these ladies are amazing

As for me, another +0.1 today, although I think TOM is coming and is to blame. In other news, I enjoyed my black coffee for the first time this morning! I am a major cream lover so it was a big adjustment and I didn't have coffee at all for the first two weeks, but it was good this morning (although I REALLY needed it, hah!) with chocolate stevia, mmm