Simeons HCG protocol--July 2010

[Joleen]

Originally Posted by mutantmomof4

Lunch on my 1st VLCD looks like this:

3.5oz of steamed shrimp
Apple (1) medium
Spinach, raw (2 cups)
Vinegar, red wine (1 tbsp).

This is a total of 224 calories and 2.7g of fat, does that look like a normal lunch for any of you?

Thanks

Looks great to me! I'm actually going to eat virtually the exact same thing (forgot I have spinach ready to harvest in my garden).

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by mutantmomof4

Lunch on my 1st VLCD looks like this:

3.5oz of steamed shrimp
Apple (1) medium
Spinach, raw (2 cups)
Vinegar, red wine (1 tbsp).
1 melba toast

This is a total of 244 calories and 2.7g of fat, does that look like a normal lunch for any of you?

Thanks

yep except for the melba or breadstick were you one that was gluten intolerant?? oh and remember your water!

[mutantmomof4]

I forgot to add in the melba when I first submitted, I've added it, taking my calories up 20.

I am trying to figure out dinner, 3.5oz of chicken is 194 calories, 1 apple 72, melba 20 (I'm already over my limit of 500 calories daily)...how do you guys mix the chicken breast with other foods to fit?

[mutantmomof4]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

yep except for the melba or breadstick were you one that was gluten intolerant?? oh and remember your water!

I've downed 128oz of water already today...that is my normal amount daily (for the past 6 or so months), thanks for the reminder, I think I will always add it to my list of foods to eat daily just to make sure it is in front of me.

I've still not found the melba at our store, but I have many more in our area to look in.

I think the only thing I'm not liking about this is the inability to really exercise, I tend to overdo it in the gym, usually doing weights M/W/F and at aleast 3 miles on the elliptical or 6 miles on the bike and around 10 miles on the bike and 3 miles on the elliptical on T/Th...giving that up will be difficiult.

I can't wait for my VLCD days...let the reducing begin!

[Tyl]

Originally Posted by mutantmomof4

I forgot to add in the melba when I first submitted, I've added it, taking my calories up 20.

I am trying to figure out dinner, 3.5oz of chicken is 194 calories, 1 apple 72, melba 20 (I'm already over my limit of 500 calories daily)...how do you guys mix the chicken breast with other foods to fit?

100 grams of boneless skinless chicken breast (with all visible fat removed) is approx 108 cals according to my calculations.

[mutantmomof4]

Originally Posted by chantyl03

100 grams of boneless skinless chicken breast (with all visible fat removed) is approx 108 cals according to my calculations.

I plugged it into ****** and that is what it told me...108 makes it easier.

Thanks

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by mutantmomof4

I forgot to add in the melba when I first submitted, I've added it, taking my calories up 20.

I am trying to figure out dinner, 3.5oz of chicken is 194 calories, 1 apple 72, melba 20 (I'm already over my limit of 500 calories daily)...how do you guys mix the chicken breast with other foods to fit?

The chicken calorie count is too high - where are you getting your information? Sometimes ****** is totally wrong! The 100 grams of chicken is around 120 calories or less.

[Healthy and Happy]

I weighed my chicken after it was already grilled and frozen, 3.5 oz. I know we're supposed to do it raw, I hope it's not too far off!

So.... day 1 is going well. Tea w/ stevia for breakfast, lunch was 3.5 oz. chicken breast w/ homemade mustard dressing, some asparagus, 1 green apple, 1 light Wasa, (which was very good, just 20 cals!).

Dinner is Halibut, cukes, strawberries, and light Wasa. This doesn't seem like it's going to be very difficult at all!

[mutantmomof4]

Originally Posted by Gracie514

The chicken calorie count is too high - where are you getting your information? Sometimes ****** is totally wrong! The 100 grams of chicken is around 120 calories or less.

Ok, I will go with the 120 because I'd rather go too high than low.

Originally Posted by thin in 2010

I weighed my chicken after it was already grilled and frozen, 3.5 oz. I know we're supposed to do it raw, I hope it's not too far off!

So.... day 1 is going well. Tea w/ stevia for breakfast, lunch was 3.5 oz. chicken breast w/ homemade mustard dressing, some asparagus, 1 green apple, 1 light Wasa, (which was very good, just 20 cals!).

Dinner is Halibut, cukes, strawberries, and light Wasa. This doesn't seem like it's going to be very difficult at all!

I'm so thrilled for you! Some how I thought we would be starting the VLCD on the same day. Good luck to you!

[RenoMom]

mutant - your plan looks perfect! My chicken says 110 on the package for 4oz?? It's Tyson brand. Calorie King is also a good site to find calories

[hay]

i can't remember who asked me about exercising, i'm too lazy to go back up

normally i am an avid exerciser. i've cut back A LOT on hhcg. i do some moderate exercising (like walking, maybe biking) a couple days a week right now. i can't decide if it will help or hurt my weight loss right now, so i'm still trying to figure out the right thing for me.

[MistyLoo]

I've ordered my drops and they have been shipped. Hopefully they will be here tomorrow, load days will be Friday and Saturday. VLCD#1 on Sunday. Perfect. I'm excited now. I'm changing my stats (I'm up about 20) starting Sunday morning to reflect my starting weight.

To you "old-timers" here I want to say thanks for taking the time to share your experiences (good and bad) and for cheering everybody on like you do.

[wishbone]

Originally Posted by thin in 2010

I weighed my chicken after it was already grilled and frozen, 3.5 oz. I know we're supposed to do it raw, I hope it's not too far off!

So.... day 1 is going well. Tea w/ stevia for breakfast, lunch was 3.5 oz. chicken breast w/ homemade mustard dressing, some asparagus, 1 green apple, 1 light Wasa, (which was very good, just 20 cals!).

Dinner is Halibut, cukes, strawberries, and light Wasa. This doesn't seem like it's going to be very difficult at all!

at the bar...we scale everything. the general rule is..for every 16 oz of raw meat, we lose 4 oz's. i did this at home to test it on a 3.5 - 4 oz boneless skinless chicken breast. after cooking, it lost a whole 1 oz. this can really add up if you arn't carefull....but if you were going to go over a tad bit, the best thing to do it on would be the protein. IMO.

JAN

[debkeversole]

thought i would post those newbie tips again i apologize to those who have seen them several times

Tip #1

Be committed to at least a clean, by the book, first Round on P2 protocol. Commit to 23 days maximum, even if you feel like you need to do a longer 40 day round.

Committing to just 3 weeks instead of 6 makes this protocol much easier to stick with. Mark it off on your calendar. 3 weeks. After your initial 3 weeks, take it day by day and really check in with how you feel. It is okay to only do 25 days or 33 days or anything in between 23 days and 40 days.

It is the first 3 weeks that are critical to your long-term success. Everyday after is just icing on the cake.

Do not concern yourself with what others are doing. This isn't a contest. This is solely about YOU.

Last edited by articshark

Tip #2

Plan out your menu on a weekly basis.

Prior to starting go to the store and buy your food supplies, just like you would any other supplies that you use on this protocol. Come up with a weekly menu.

Precut and precook as much of your menu items as you possibly can. I have cooked for an entire round at once. By that I mean, I make 4-6 servings of a particular dish and freeze most of it and put the rest in the fridge so that I can grab and go.

This will save you during those moments when you are too tired to cook or just in too much of a hurry.

Even if you can't cook everything, portion it out and freeze it so you can pull it out and thaw relatively easily and without much effort.

Be PREPARED.

Tip #3


Set small goals that you can easily achieve so that you get a sense of achievement everyday or every couple of days.

It is motivating to be able to reach and or exceed your goals and expectations. Set your ticker to reflect just the pounds you want to lose in this Round. Sometimes looking at your progress for 20-30 pounds is much easier on the brain than looking at 70,80,100 pounds. In other words bite off small chunks.

Average loss in 23 days is about 15 pounds. Make your goal 13. Average loss in 40 days is 34 or so pounds. Make your goal 25-30 pounds.

[debkeversole]

Tip #4

Set up rewards for yourself.

If you have not deviated all day, then allow yourself to have a fruit slushie or a berry crumble or whatever.

If you haven't deviated for 5 or 6 or 7 days, reward yourself with a massage. A gentle one. The kind they called lymphatic or something similar. Or a pedicure. Or some other treat.

After a full 3 weeks on protocol, set up a hair appointment or a day at the spa. A really special treat.

Tip #5

If you recognize a time of day that is particularly hard for you, like late at night or mid-afternoon, set up a new routine. Instead of being home and doing that mindless drone thing, plan to be out. Do your grocery shopping at that time. Or go to the gym and steam and sauna at that time. Or take a late evening walk. Or anything that gets you out of your area of weakness in location and time of day.

If you come home and veg out and realize that is the time of day when you are on auto pilot in mind and body, choose to do something else. Be proactive in getting out of your zone of danger. No matter how tired or lazy you feel.

Tip # 6

Expect days of no loss, small loss and slight gains. This is a very normal part of this protocol. In the hundreds of journeys of other people that I have read, NOT ONE person experienced huge losses EVERYDAY while on protocol.

YOU will be NO different. It is NORMAL. DO NOT FREAK OUT!!!!! Stay true to protocol and you will clock good losses as soon as your body has either recovered from working so hard and shedding HUGE losses or your cells release the water with which your body fills up empty fat cells.

The cycle seems to be about every 7-10 days, your body will need a period of rest to reset and get ready to work hard again releasing unwanted fat and pounds and inches.

Once again, DO NOT FREAK OUT!!!!! It is normal. You are normal. The protocol is STILL working.

HTH you all who are just starting out

[debkeversole]

for those asking about exercise

Tip #7

Do not begin an exercise program while on P2. If you have already been doing something, it is okay to continue to do it. But do not start something new.

Your muscles retain water every time you exercise. This is normal as your body tries to repair your muscles. This water retention will lead to less than satisfactory weight loss. If you are not able to handle days of no loss or gains, don not begin an exercise program.

If you are willing to experience no loss and gains, then you can go ahead and begin something new. It is all about what you are mentally prepared to accept. In the end, you will have toner muscles but maybe not as large of a loss as you would have had you not started an exercise regime during P2.

In addition, starting an exercise program will increase the energy requirements of your body. One that you body was not prepared for by prior conditioning. This might leave you weak and/or more hungry.

Start an exercise program before you begin P2 or after you are finished with P2. Leisurely walks, light stretching, etc. are okay. But anything other than the lightest of movements, might show no loss or even a gain.

[RenoMom]

Deb Thank you for all of that! I am heading towards day 8 and so far I have great losses, (12lbs) but I need to gear myself up for no loss days.

Well I made a delish meal today for lunch. I took my 3.5oz lean beef and cut it up real small, I cooked it in 1T Soy sauce and 2T water, I seasoned with garlic and a dash of cayene for the heat, then I added a few scallions to the mix and cooked until done.
It was so good, this will be a keeper for sure.

I noticed in the past when I eat Beef I do not lose as well as on chicken so I am trying to keep my beef meals at lunch and chicken in the evening. I plan on making some chicken cabbage soup for dinner.

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by RenoMom

Deb Thank you for all of that! I am heading towards day 8 and so far I have great losses, (12lbs) but I need to gear myself up for no loss days.

Well I made a delish meal today for lunch. I took my 3.5oz lean beef and cut it up real small, I cooked it in 1T Soy sauce and 2T water, I seasoned with garlic and a dash of cayene for the heat, then I added a few scallions to the mix and cooked until done.
It was so good, this will be a keeper for sure.

I noticed in the past when I eat Beef I do not lose as well as on chicken so I am trying to keep my beef meals at lunch and chicken in the evening. I plan on making some chicken cabbage soup for dinner.

12 pounds in 8 days is AMAZING!! wowza!! you have done a great job just hold on to that feeling when it slows down! that sounds yummy and beef is a staller for some not for me though! mine is cabbage darn it! and i love cabbage could drink the water it is boiled in for a beverage

[Ladidah]

Soy sauce & mustard is allowed? I am really confused as to what is/isn't allowed. Is wasa substitute acceptable for melba?

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by Ladidah

Soy sauce & mustard is allowed? I am really confused as to what is/isn't allowed. Is wasa substitute acceptable for melba?

yeah go easy on the soy though it is FULL of sodium braggs liquid aminos is similar but better for you and less sodium and yep thank goodness fresh garlic counted as a spice!! i use it in everything!
i have used wasa and bran crispbread as a sub for the melba couldn't find the melba anywhere when i first started now my cabinet has several kinds of grissini, melba, wasa, bran crispbread umm i think that is it!
oh and i have used chicken broth on each round too just make sure it is the fat free and low sodium i had a GAIN last round when i accidentally picked up the full sodium

some good supplements to have are potassium, a probiotic or acidolphilus, a good mulit vitamin hmm anyone else got any suggestions for that?

Natural calm, yerbe mate tea and smooth move tea are staples too

[Healthy and Happy]

Originally Posted by Ladidah

Soy sauce & mustard is allowed? I am really confused as to what is/isn't allowed. Is wasa substitute acceptable for melba?

I'm new to this too, so don't take my advice. I read somewhere that mustard was OK, ( I used organic). And I'm using light n crisp Wasa as a sub for melba/breadstick. Light n crisp is the only Wasa that is just 20 cals.

[Grizzy]

Originally Posted by Superfreak

Does anyone know which HHCG drops are the most potent? As far as the numbers on the bottle go? I asked this question a few pages back, but the only response that I got was from StinaStina, who advised that she would also like to know...
I would appreciate any thoughts that anyone has, please! (and Thank you!)

The numbers on the front are not that significant as often there is not any of the original source in the mixture. Homeopathics work on vibration.

This subject is more about Homeopathy than the hcg if that makes sense. It is a complicated process and the subject of Homeopathy is more in depth than can be explained in a thread but the dilution or potentization of the homeopathic drops, if they are from a reputable source should not be a barrier. Different people react differently to substances so if you are concerned you may want to try a different source for your HHCG.

[hellsbelles]

ladidah - I didn't know about the mustard until recently and used it for the first time today. Was great to dip my chicken into...

deb - I haven't used soy yet but if I get the low sodium kind do you think that's ok instead of me getting braggs? I don't know what braggs is or where to get it so was hoping I could use low sodium soy instead?

[debkeversole]

Grizzy praying for our handsome guy!

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[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by hellsbelles

ladidah - I didn't know about the mustard until recently and used it for the first time today. Was great to dip my chicken into...

deb - I haven't used soy yet but if I get the low sodium kind do you think that's ok instead of me getting braggs? I don't know what braggs is or where to get it so was hoping I could use low sodium soy instead?

i would if you can't find something you can't find it! that is what i had to do for the breadsticks first round could only find melba like crackers that looked like tiny little toast slices
here is what it looks like some groceries have it i also use the braggs ACV

[hcground1]

I never used mustard, but just because the stuff I have from Trader Joe's has sugar in it. How irritating! I used Tamari instead of liquid aminos or soy sauce, but I only used it a few times and in small amounts.

I made sure I measured my protein raw because it changes the weight. Cooked meat weighs less than raw because there's less moisture in it once it's cooked.

[hcground1]

I have house guests coming over tonight that will be here for 2 days. They also have celiac (as well as my 2 sons) so I planned on making a loaf of bread and 2 kinds of bagels for everyone to enjoy while they're here. The weather here has been in the 60's until yesterday.... Now today, the day I have my oven going all day, it's 90 degrees! And DH isn't home to put in our air conditioner or mow the lawn.... Looks like I'm heading outside to do that once my bagels come out of the oven. I've had 2 glasses of iced tea and 3 quarts of water already..... ugh.

[Healthy and Happy]

Anyone know how much less? Somewhere I read it should be 75 g. cooked but I think it depends on how long you cook it. Should I stick to 3 oz. cooked?

[Ladidah]

Gelatin OK? As in a multi vitamin or supplement capsule?

Sorry for asking all these stupid questions. I did read P&I, but I can't recall if those were addressed.

Do people generally skip breakfast?

[wishbone]

Originally Posted by wishbone

at the bar...we scale everything. the general rule is..for every 16 oz of raw meat, we lose 4 oz's. i did this at home to test it on a 3.5 - 4 oz boneless skinless chicken breast. after cooking, it lost a whole 1 oz. this can really add up if you arn't carefull....but if you were going to go over a tad bit, the best thing to do it on would be the protein. IMO.

JAN

Thin in 2010 i answered you on the last page...I know things are easy to miss...so many of us....hope this helps