HCG

[soontobesexy'ntx]

has anyone on the PG used HCG drops or injections?
I am considering the drops since you dont have to have a percription for them now. any pros/cons (other than the money??)

[debkeversole]

i have but you do have to have a prescription for the RX drops only the homeopathic is the ones without a prescription and those have been around for a while i heard Netrition willl be selling a homeopathic version soon

ok i have used both and have had comparable results from each since October i have lost 60 net pounds in 4 rounds my DS15 has lost 60 net in 3 rounds

i believe i feel better on the homeopathic
homeopathic you dose 3 or more times a day and RX injections are once a day or subligual drops are 2x a day HTH
we are planning on starting another round this weekend

pop over into the thread in OTHER PLANS and look around!

[AllMyPonies]

I took a quick look around the web about the HCG diet. 500 calories a day, are you serious???? You would be absolutely stark raving mad to do this to your body!

And the name Kevin Trudeau pops up often. He is a scam artist of the highest degree.

Why bother? Just dust off the Atkins book, and enjoy real food!

[AllMyPonies]

The more I read, the more I find danger in this stuff. Do some research, Soonie. Not good. Eat clean and healthy (induction) and you'll drop the pounds.

[Healthy and Happy]

I don't understand the hcg diet. Who wouldn't lose temporary weight on 500 cals/day? What do you need the hcg drops for? Am I missing something here?

[AllMyPonies]

You'll lose more than weight, it's Kimmer all over again.

[shari]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

i have but you do have to have a prescription for the RX drops only the homeopathic is the ones without a prescription and those have been around for a while i heard Netrition willl be selling a homeopathic version soon

ok i have used both and have had comparable results from each since October i have lost 60 net pounds in 4 rounds my DS15 has lost 60 net in 3 rounds

i believe i feel better on the homeopathic
homeopathic you dose 3 or more times a day and RX injections are once a day or subligual drops are 2x a day HTH
we are planning on starting another round this weekend

pop over into the thread in OTHER PLANS and look around!

Agree...just pop over in the other plans thread, download the book Pounds and Inches by Dr. Simeons and you'll be able to make a knowledgeable decision if this the right plan for you or not! HTH.

[LowCarbRachel]

There are people on this board who are doing hcg and doing quite well on it, however, I did not have a good experience with it.

I did the RX drops under a doctor's supervision. The diet was 500 calories a day. No breakfast, just lunch and dinner.

I did lose 15 pounds in 3 weeks. However, I started obsessing over food. I was hungry all the time, and I couldn't stop thinking about eating. I started going to the grocery store every night after work just so that I could look at the food and became obsessed with reading recipes.

After the diet ended, I started binge eating (which is not the proper way to do the plan.) I lost 15 pounds, but part of it was muscle, and it took a long time for me to get my thoughts about food back to normal again. I gained all the weight back and established a higher set point weight for myself. I couldn't "diet" for months afterwards.

I have never had an eating disorder before, but I had a glimpse of what it might feel like when I was on hcg. I don't know how to describe the level of obsession I had with food while I was starving myself.

[KissysMom]

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[AllMyPonies]

500 calores??? That's what I can't get over. That is just plain unhealthy. Period.

Forget the added cost of these drops, or whatever they are. Forget the hungry. Give me a big salad, and shrimp in parm and garlic butter. Ribeye. Saute'd spinach.

And don't forget bacon.

I just don't get it. The Atkins way of eating is healthy, it's good food and plenty of it. WHY go through the pain of starving yourself???

[LINC]

Originally Posted by thin in 2010

I don't understand the hcg diet. Who wouldn't lose temporary weight on 500 cals/day? What do you need the hcg drops for? Am I missing something here?

It's my understanding that the drops (actually, injections are supposed to be the best method) "force the body to use abnormal fat stores as fuel / energy," so it's supposed to make you not hungry on the 500 calories a day and it's supposed to burn the fat away.

My friend just started this last week. She didn't feel hungry at all and was losing about a pound a day, but she's really ill right now. She thinks she may have pneumonia or whooping cough. It's probably unrelated to the HCG, but her HCG doctor told when she started feeling ill that it was completely normal to feel sick when you start the injections. That your fat cells are releasing toxins.

Either way, it sounds entirely too much like Kimmer's philosophy that your body could survive on its excess fat, even if you eat nothing at all.

Of course, you'll lose weight on 500 calories a day.

Lou

[SusieQ12]

Soonie, I am not trying to be snarky or rude, but you seem to switch plans a lot. You tend to go from plan to plan, what's popular at the moment. I have read several threads of you trying several different plans. Maybe just find one plan that you know will work for you and stick with that. I'm not an expert, but switching plans so often is probably not good for your body.

That being said, I don't know anything about the HCG stuff. I only know that I am not going to follow a plan that only allows 500 calories a day. No way.

Good luck hon.

[Kiley2801]

I used homeopathic hcg for a short round and hated just about every minute of it. I did get to a point where i wasn't starving all the time, but i NEVER felt good. I'm so happy to be off of it, and I, personally, would not recommend it to anybody. Not to knock others success-- because I know that there has been LOTS. Just my personal experiences.

Oh and I only lost about 7 pounds--which, personally, I feel I probably could have done with just Atkins 72 or meat/eggs.

[wifey]

My friend did it for the 20 something days and lost like 35 lbs in that short time. She is super tiny now and said the injections made her not hungry at all. You eat the 500 calories and thousands more are released from your fat stores I guess.

[Gracie514]

I've completed 3 rounds and feel GREAT! I went from 227-177 since October of last year. I did short rounds so I was on the hcg for 23 days each time and then I did 3 weeks of no sugar/starches and then 3 weeks of adding these back in. I have stabilized well and I am grateful that I found the protocol. I will be starting another round in August to hopefully get to my ultimate goal.

Before anyone bashes the diet you need to read "Pounds & Inches" by Dr. Simeons and understand the science behind it. You are not surviving on 500 calories per day - the hcg releases an extra 2000-4000 calories of stored untouchable fat from your body, hence no hunger. You lose from your hips, belly, thighs - places other diets NEVER took the fat from for me!!!

Make your own educated decision. There are clinics everywhere now because the diet works. You'll pay a lot when you can do it on your own.

[KissysMom]

Originally Posted by Gracie514

I've completed 3 rounds and feel GREAT! I went from 227-177 since October of last year. I did short rounds so I was on the hcg for 23 days each time and then I did 3 weeks of no sugar/starches and then 3 weeks of adding these back in. I have stabilized well and I am grateful that I found the protocol. I will be starting another round in August to hopefully get to my ultimate goal.

Before anyone bashes the diet you need to read "Pounds & Inches" by Dr. Simeons and understand the science behind it. You are not surviving on 500 calories per day - the hcg releases an extra 2000-4000 calories of stored untouchable fat from your body, hence no hunger. You lose from your hips, belly, thighs - places other diets NEVER took the fat from for me!!!

Make your own educated decision. There are clinics everywhere now because the diet works. You'll pay a lot when you can do it on your own.

[Tommyswife]

Awesome post Gracie. I hate when people attack a plan base upon a google search. If you're going to give sound advice, research the topic thoroughly.

[shari]

Originally Posted by Gracie514

I've completed 3 rounds and feel GREAT! I went from 227-177 since October of last year. I did short rounds so I was on the hcg for 23 days each time and then I did 3 weeks of no sugar/starches and then 3 weeks of adding these back in. I have stabilized well and I am grateful that I found the protocol. I will be starting another round in August to hopefully get to my ultimate goal.

Before anyone bashes the diet you need to read "Pounds & Inches" by Dr. Simeons and understand the science behind it. You are not surviving on 500 calories per day - the hcg releases an extra 2000-4000 calories of stored untouchable fat from your body, hence no hunger. You lose from your hips, belly, thighs - places other diets NEVER took the fat from for me!!!

Make your own educated decision. There are clinics everywhere now because the diet works. You'll pay a lot when you can do it on your own.

I said I wasn't going to post again regarding this but great post!!

[AllMyPonies]

Ok, so it's a short-term fix. How does it teach you to eat so that all the weight doesn't come back? At least with Atkins, you move from induction, to OWL, to maintenance. I can't see how shots and a 500-calorie a day diet teaches you anything or modifies one's eating habits.

And nothing I've read, in oh, 6 different articles/reviews, supports scientific research that says this works.

I dunno. I love food too much. I lost 30 lbs in 2 months on induction eating steak, shrimp, butter, bacon, eggs, green veggies, salads... and that's fine for me.

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by AllMyPonies

Ok, so it's a short-term fix. How does it teach you to eat so that all the weight doesn't come back? At least with Atkins, you move from induction, to OWL, to maintenance. I can't see how shots and a 500-calorie a day diet teaches you anything or modifies one's eating habits.

And nothing I've read, in oh, 6 different articles/reviews, supports scientific research that says this works.

I dunno. I love food too much. I lost 30 lbs in 2 months on induction eating steak, shrimp, butter, bacon, eggs, green veggies, salads... and that's fine for me.

Well, good for you. Nobody is bashing your diet so why do you feel necessary to bash ours? And if you read the protocol (which I'm assuming you have not because you clearly know nothing about the maintenance either) you will understand what you do after the diet part is over. I have been maintaining great and I eat clean and do get to eat starches and sugar on occasion. This protocol resets your hypothalamus and you achieve a stabilized weight. Dr. Simeons did 30 years of research on this and did not make one single penny off of it. The protocol was published in 1972 - way after it was written. He was trying to help people who were obese find a cure for it - and in my opinion, he did.

Please read the protocol and then ask questions.

[hay]

there are different phases to hcg and i've known several people who have been successful on it and learned to reincorporate foods through the phases.

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by AllMyPonies

Ok, so it's a short-term fix. How does it teach you to eat so that all the weight doesn't come back? At least with Atkins, you move from induction, to OWL, to maintenance. I can't see how shots and a 500-calorie a day diet teaches you anything or modifies one's eating habits.

And nothing I've read, in oh, 6 different articles/reviews, supports scientific research that says this works.

I dunno. I love food too much. I lost 30 lbs in 2 months on induction eating steak, shrimp, butter, bacon, eggs, green veggies, salads... and that's fine for me.

Also, I don't see your stats anywhere so I don't know anything about your diet - loss - maintenance, etc. When I did Atkins I gained the weight back as soon as I tried to eat carbs. With hcg I am now able to eat carbs and not go crazy.

[Healthy and Happy]

Thanks for the post Gracie, that makes more sense. I admit I have done no research on hcg, just heard it was 500 cals a day and was like .

Congrats on your weight loss, that is awesome! So can this be done just with the homeopathic hcg drops?

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by KissysMom

Originally Posted by Tommyswife

Awesome post Gracie. I hate when people attack a plan base upon a google search. If you're going to give sound advice, research the topic thoroughly.

Originally Posted by shari

I said I wasn't going to post again regarding this but great post!!

Originally Posted by hay

there are different phases to hcg and i've known several people who have been successful on it and learned to reincorporate foods through the phases.

Thanks ladies. I don't even know why I respond to such nonsense. I guess I fear if someone who wanted knowledgeable answers and only saw the negative posts wouldn't give it a fair shake. Anyhoo, no harm no foul.

[wifey]

If when I'm done nursing my son I haven't lost all the weight I need to, I am so doing this plan.

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by thin in 2010

Thanks for the post Gracie, that makes more sense. I admit I have done no research on hcg, just heard it was 500 cals a day and was like .

Congrats on your weight loss, that is awesome! So can this be done just with the homeopathic hcg drops?

I use a homeopathic spray. Kathy, an administrator, posted last week on the Simeons thread that Netrition may be selling a homeopathic hcg soon. That would be great!

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by Wifey

If when I'm done nursing my son I haven't lost all the weight I need to, I am so doing this plan.

I notice you haven't gained any weight - hmmmm, could it be the natural hcg surging through your body!!!! YAY

[wifey]

Originally Posted by Gracie514

I notice you haven't gained any weight - hmmmm, could it be the natural hcg surging through your body!!!! YAY

That is what I've been wondering too!

[shari]

Originally Posted by Gracie514

Thanks ladies. I don't even know why I respond to such nonsense. I guess I fear if someone who wanted knowledgeable answers and only saw the negative posts wouldn't give it a fair shake. Anyhoo, no harm no foul.

Just can't stay away..lol. I understand it, I'm passionate about this plan too and feel so good that it has gotten me this far. I felt I couldn't respond because I don't mind discussing this with someone fairly if they at least know what they're talking about. Other than that, I feel like I'm wasting my time.

Originally Posted by Wifey

If when I'm done nursing my son I haven't lost all the weight I need to, I am so doing this plan.

Wifey, it truly is amazing! Should you need to lose any more weight please read on it. Congrats on your pregnancy!

Originally Posted by Gracie514

I use a homeopathic spray. Kathy, an administrator, posted last week on the Simeons thread that Netrition may be selling a homeopathic hcg soon. That would be great!

This would be wonderful!

[JRo]

Originally Posted by AllMyPonies

Ok, so it's a short-term fix. How does it teach you to eat so that all the weight doesn't come back? At least with Atkins, you move from induction, to OWL, to maintenance. I can't see how shots and a 500-calorie a day diet teaches you anything or modifies one's eating habits.

And nothing I've read, in oh, 6 different articles/reviews, supports scientific research that says this works.

I dunno. I love food too much. I lost 30 lbs in 2 months on induction eating steak, shrimp, butter, bacon, eggs, green veggies, salads... and that's fine for me.

agree completely.

Anyone eating 500 calories a day and exercising 45 minutes 5 times a week will lose weight, and a pile of scientific studies back that up - that the HCG doesn't have a discernible impact on the rate of weight loss.