HCG - Page 9

soontobesexy'ntx · 07-01-2010, 10:12 AM

I've skimmed thru the DR's P&I
I've read the "cliff notes" version
Its written all about the injections
what about us that are going to do drops/sprays?
how many oz is 100 grams?
how long do we wait between phases if we have alot to lose
(I have 64 lbs or more)

DivaHerself · 07-01-2010, 10:20 AM

100 grams is 3.5 ounces.
Directions are exactly the same for those using homeopathic preparations, except that it only 48 takes hours for homeopathic to clear the system before increasing calories, instead of waiting 72 hours as for injection/sublingual.

After your first 500-calorie round, Dr. S specifies three weeks of no sugar/starch, then three weeks of slowly reintroducing starches before embarking on subsequent rounds.

As explained in P&I, the interval between subsequent rounds gets longer to ensure the body's full response to the HCG round.

soontobesexy'ntx · 07-01-2010, 10:31 AM

Diva
how do you do this AND BBQ??
look at the Neely's they are both fat

DivaHerself · 07-01-2010, 11:19 AM

Basically, I only take bites of the four meats that I'm supposed to test, and just stick to the program the rest of the time.

Trust me, as much of this stuff as we've cooked, we don't sit around eating it.

debkeversole · 07-01-2010, 12:06 PM

Walden farms has a couple of good BBQ sauces

Tazcat · 07-01-2010, 07:38 PM

The first 3-5 days is the hardest. After that it's just mental.

And you realize more than any diet ever - how social an act eating is. Even if it's just cooking with your significant other - it's quite a change in lifestyle.

I used L-Glutamine powder (if you have a friend close to you it comes in big containers i think - mine did anyway) and put a dab under my tongue when i got hungry.

Do NOT make the mistake I did and drink a lot of fruity tea - it has hidden garbage in it. Drink the water - add some lemon.
:: mutters - i still don't really like water.....but it worked

::

KOO · 07-01-2010, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stinastina

Thank goodness you were looking out for her. It must have been a really bad flu for her to get antibiotics.

Right now I don't think there are any national places, but the way the clinics are booming in my city, it's just a matter of time. When you do your search online, look for weight loss clinic - most have hcg as an option. You could also try to find a naturopath doctor - they can prescribe hormones. Good luck !

Thank you. I went back in and tried just weight loss clinic to see if anything new popped out but was unsuccessful again. I have medical issues (on blood thinners for past blood clot, was told I can not take any hormone therapy for peri/meno since they think clot came from bc pills, take waterpill for excess fluid retention) so I want to go through a clinic or doctor that deals with this rather than trying to do the drops from a health food store. I go to a D.O. so I am going to see what she thinks the next time I am in there.

If anyone else takes any of the meds I do, and does the HCG, I'd love to hear your experience. I am going to keep following this thread so I can see how everyone does.

Tazcat · 07-01-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KOO

Thank you. I went back in and tried just weight loss clinic to see if anything new popped out but was unsuccessful again. I have medical issues (on blood thinners for past blood clot, was told I can not take any hormone therapy for peri/meno since they think clot came from bc pills, take waterpill for excess fluid retention) so I want to go through a clinic or doctor that deals with this rather than trying to do the drops from a health food store. I go to a D.O. so I am going to see what she thinks the next time I am in there.

If anyone else takes any of the meds I do, and does the HCG, I'd love to hear your experience. I am going to keep following this thread so I can see how everyone does.

My internist does it. And she's "Miss 1200 calories and exercise is the only way".....or was

It's going pretty main stream - i'm in a smaller town too.

shebasmudder · 07-01-2010, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOO

Thank you. I went back in and tried just weight loss clinic to see if anything new popped out but was unsuccessful again. I have medical issues (on blood thinners for past blood clot, was told I can not take any hormone therapy for peri/meno since they think clot came from bc pills, take waterpill for excess fluid retention) so I want to go through a clinic or doctor that deals with this rather than trying to do the drops from a health food store. I go to a D.O. so I am going to see what she thinks the next time I am in there.

If anyone else takes any of the meds I do, and does the HCG, I'd love to hear your experience. I am going to keep following this thread so I can see how everyone does.

If you go to the main thread here, I am sure there are a few people who have similar conditions. I hope your DO is open minded and will help you. Can I ask what city you are in ?

shebasmudder · 07-01-2010, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazcat

My internist does it. And she's "Miss 1200 calories and exercise is the only way".....or was

It's going pretty main stream - i'm in a smaller town too.

You are so lucky ! So many are still backwards thinking.

KOO · 07-01-2010, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazcat

My internist does it. And she's "Miss 1200 calories and exercise is the only way".....or was

It's going pretty main stream - i'm in a smaller town too.

Thanks Becky, you have done great with it!

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Originally Posted by stinastina

If you go to the main thread here, I am sure there are a few people who have similar conditions. I hope your DO is open minded and will help you. Can I ask what city you are in ?

I am in Slidell, outside of New Orleans. I've been doing Atkins for 4 years now. Lost 28 lbs. right off the back and have been sitting at the same weight give or take 5 lbs since then even though I stick with it. Maybe the HCG is what I need to get me moving again. Every time I have been pregnant I have lost weight before gaining, maybe it was the HCG there.

I have often joked that maybe I should get pregnant to lose more weight.

shebasmudder · 07-01-2010, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOO

Thanks Becky, you have done great with it!

I am in Slidell, outside of New Orleans. I've been doing Atkins for 4 years now. Lost 28 lbs. right off the back and have been sitting at the same weight give or take 5 lbs since then even though I stick with it. Maybe the HCG is what I need to get me moving again. Every time I have been pregnant I have lost weight before gaining, maybe it was the HCG there.

I have often joked that maybe I should get pregnant to lose more weight.

I ordered HBO just so I could watch Treme ! Now I have a mini-NOLA addiction !

I weighed less after my son was born than before I got pregnant so I know the hcg works ! I'm going to PM you.

Potaty · 07-01-2010, 09:28 PM

Here are my two questions for all of you:

1)you are not supposed to use any lotions. I am a massage therapist so that would be impossible for me, so basically I would not be able to do it and/or not be as successful?

2)I am trying to figure out why you can't breastfeed while doing it (meaning nursing an older child-not a newborn!- who has table food as nutrition as well). I nursed my son while pregnant with my daughter with no ill-effects. The only thing I can think that would be affected may be supply issues from the low calories.

Nobody may have the answers for me so maybe I'll just get pregnant again,

I am one who has lost weight both times I have been pregnant so I guess it works for me!

KOO · 07-01-2010, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stinastina

I ordered HBO just so I could watch Treme ! Now I have a mini-NOLA addiction !

I weighed less after my son was born than before I got pregnant so I know the hcg works ! I'm going to PM you.

Thanks, I got the PM. I love Treme also. If you like watching stuff in New Orleans, Real World on MTV started last night and it is set in New Orleans this season.

wifey · 07-01-2010, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wifey

My friend did it for the 20 something days and lost like 35 lbs in that short time. She is super tiny now and said the injections made her not hungry at all. You eat the 500 calories and thousands more are released from your fat stores I guess.

I want to show you a before picture of her so you can see that she wasn't very big before she started and yet she still dropped a bunch.

KOO · 07-01-2010, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stinastina

Yes, I am 45 and I watch the Real World !

I was so shocked to see Kermit Ruffins in the promo. Unfortunately they will probably focus more on the kids' crazy behavior and not the city. But I will watch anyways !

Lol, I made 47 in May and watching it. That Ryan needs some Ritalin or something!

shebasmudder · 07-01-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KOO

Lol, I made 47 in May and watching it. That Ryan needs some Ritalin or something!

And the girl from Mississippi needs some Valium ! They really have a strange group this time around.

KOO · 07-01-2010, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wifey

My friend did it for the 20 something days and lost like 35 lbs in that short time. She is super tiny now and said the injections made her not hungry at all. You eat the 500 calories and thousands more are released from your fat stores I guess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wifey

I want to show you a before picture of her so you can see that she wasn't very big before she started and yet she still dropped a bunch.

She looked good before she started! I want results like her. If i could do a 23 day cycle and lose 35 lbs. I be at goal and then go back to Atkins and eat like I do now to maintain.

KOO · 07-01-2010, 09:52 PM

Sorry about that. I was trying to start a new thread about Real World. Come join in if you watched it last night.

shebasmudder · 07-01-2010, 09:57 PM

The new thread for July is up : July HCG thread.

soontobesexy'ntx · 07-02-2010, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOO

Thanks Becky, you have done great with it!

I am in Slidell, outside of New Orleans. I've been doing Atkins for 4 years now. Lost 28 lbs. right off the back and have been sitting at the same weight give or take 5 lbs since then even though I stick with it. Maybe the HCG is what I need to get me moving again. Every time I have been pregnant I have lost weight before gaining, maybe it was the HCG there.

I have often joked that maybe I should get pregnant to lose more weight.

Hey Koo,
I'm from Benton (N of Bossier City) but have lived in Abilene Tx for about 27 years I "go home" 1 to 2x a year

soontobesexy'ntx · 07-02-2010, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Potaty

Here are my two questions for all of you:

1)you are not supposed to use any lotions. I am a massage therapist so that would be impossible for me, so basically I would not be able to do it and/or not be as successful?
2)I am trying to figure out why you can't breastfeed while doing it (meaning nursing an older child-not a newborn!- who has table food as nutrition as well). I nursed my son while pregnant with my daughter with no ill-effects. The only thing I can think that would be affected may be supply issues from the low calories.

Nobody may have the answers for me so maybe I'll just get pregnant again,

I am one who has lost weight both times I have been pregnant so I guess it works for me!

could you switch to mineral oil that you've sented with essentual oils?
or wear latex gloves?
the breastfeeding ? I cant answer maybe someone with more experance can answer that one

Tyl · 07-02-2010, 05:48 AM

Gracie514 · 07-02-2010, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Potaty

Here are my two questions for all of you:

1)you are not supposed to use any lotions. I am a massage therapist so that would be impossible for me, so basically I would not be able to do it and/or not be as successful?

2)I am trying to figure out why you can't breastfeed while doing it (meaning nursing an older child-not a newborn!- who has table food as nutrition as well). I nursed my son while pregnant with my daughter with no ill-effects. The only thing I can think that would be affected may be supply issues from the low calories.

Nobody may have the answers for me so maybe I'll just get pregnant again,

I am one who has lost weight both times I have been pregnant so I guess it works for me!

Hi Katy

1. You could find lotions without oil in them - maybe an unscented baby lotion and then add some perfume to it???

2. I've heard it's because of the very low calorie diet and your milk supply. Also, because you are releasing the stored abnormal fat - you are also releasing built up toxins and you don't want those getting in the milk. How much long are you going to nurse? Is Chloe close to a year now?

I'm thinking your best bet is to just get preggo again

But, seriously, Dr. Simeons even states that the best time to lose weight is when you are pregnant!!!

Joleen · 07-02-2010, 06:08 AM

I know we have one example of a loading diet up above somewhere, but can anybody else post what they ate during those days? I'm having trouble imagining just how much I'm supposed to eat (I eat high fat every day, quite low carb). Do you need a bunch of carbs, too, or mainly fat?

In P & I, he mentions bread and butter and pastries, but then mostly fatty things, so I'm a little confused. Do most of you actually eat those on the loading days?

Gracie514 · 07-02-2010, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joleen

I know we have one example of a loading diet up above somewhere, but can anybody else post what they ate during those days? I'm having trouble imagining just how much I'm supposed to eat (I eat high fat every day, quite low carb). Do you need a bunch of carbs, too, or mainly fat?

In P & I, he mentions bread and butter and pastries, but then mostly fatty things, so I'm a little confused. Do most of you actually eat those on the loading days?

Eat whatever you want basically! Focus on fats but also on anything you know you are going to miss or something you consider a "treat". Here's a sample load day for me.

B: omelet - cheddar cheese, green onions, bacon, sour cream
biscuits w/ sausage gravy
hashbrowns
Snack: chocolate covered macadamia nuts
L: deep dish pizza w/sausage, extra cheese, pepperoni
buffalo wings w/bleu cheese
Snack : ice cream cake
D: avacado
fettucin alfredo
salad w/ranch
Snack: cheesecake

I eat until I can't possibly eat another bite. By the time I'm done I am 100% ready for the 500 calorie days

You will learn to look forward to and thoroughly enjoy your loading days!!!

Tazcat · 07-02-2010, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joleen

I know we have one example of a loading diet up above somewhere, but can anybody else post what they ate during those days? I'm having trouble imagining just how much I'm supposed to eat (I eat high fat every day, quite low carb). Do you need a bunch of carbs, too, or mainly fat?

In P & I, he mentions bread and butter and pastries, but then mostly fatty things, so I'm a little confused. Do most of you actually eat those on the loading days?

FAT - eat FAT! Whipped cream, avocado, cheese, ribeye, more whip cream. more whip cream.....cheesecake....

I'd concentrate on high fat and not so much on high carb or sugar - it's hard to detox from those - but it's your load - do it however you want.

I had nachos - loaded with sour cream, guac and anything else i could think of

canadiandina · 07-02-2010, 06:51 AM

do you really have to do 2 loading days? could you possibly do just 1 and then start the next day?

Gracie514 · 07-02-2010, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadiandina

do you really have to do 2 loading days? could you possibly do just 1 and then start the next day?

Yes, you need to do AT LEAST two loading days. Don't worry, the weight will come off very quickly. You need to fill-up your fat stores for when you start the vlcd's. Loading is VERY important!!!

canadiandina · 07-02-2010, 07:14 AM

another question...what qty of vegtables are we supposed to eat? i see it says 100 grams of meat, but what about the veg?

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07-01-2010, 10:12 AM	#241
soontobesexy'ntx Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: cajungurl Hitched to a Tejas boy Posts: 19,580 Gallery: soontobesexy'ntx Stats: 204.9/202.6/150 WOE: Souping our way thin 2013 Start Date: 1/1/13	I've skimmed thru the DR's P&I I've read the "cliff notes" version Its written all about the injections what about us that are going to do drops/sprays? how many oz is 100 grams? how long do we wait between phases if we have alot to lose (I have 64 lbs or more)

07-01-2010, 10:20 AM	#242
DivaHerself Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Ninth Ring of Hell, cleverly disguised as Phoenix Posts: 37,555 Gallery: DivaHerself Stats: My ass is still big enough to kick yours WOE: Wedding Cake Martinis, Darvocet & frozen Twinkies Start Date: As if. Fix your own damn dinner.	100 grams is 3.5 ounces. Directions are exactly the same for those using homeopathic preparations, except that it only 48 takes hours for homeopathic to clear the system before increasing calories, instead of waiting 72 hours as for injection/sublingual. After your first 500-calorie round, Dr. S specifies three weeks of no sugar/starch, then three weeks of slowly reintroducing starches before embarking on subsequent rounds. As explained in P&I, the interval between subsequent rounds gets longer to ensure the body's full response to the HCG round.

07-01-2010, 10:31 AM	#243
soontobesexy'ntx Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: cajungurl Hitched to a Tejas boy Posts: 19,580 Gallery: soontobesexy'ntx Stats: 204.9/202.6/150 WOE: Souping our way thin 2013 Start Date: 1/1/13	Diva how do you do this AND BBQ?? look at the Neely's they are both fat

07-01-2010, 11:19 AM	#244
DivaHerself Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Ninth Ring of Hell, cleverly disguised as Phoenix Posts: 37,555 Gallery: DivaHerself Stats: My ass is still big enough to kick yours WOE: Wedding Cake Martinis, Darvocet & frozen Twinkies Start Date: As if. Fix your own damn dinner.	Basically, I only take bites of the four meats that I'm supposed to test, and just stick to the program the rest of the time. Trust me, as much of this stuff as we've cooked, we don't sit around eating it.

07-01-2010, 12:06 PM	#245
debkeversole Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: southern ky Posts: 49,255 Gallery: debkeversole Stats: 370/285/199 WOE: 8/29/11 R9P2 HCG diet Start Date: 10-8-09	Walden farms has a couple of good BBQ sauces

07-01-2010, 09:28 PM	#253
Potaty Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,037 Gallery: Potaty Stats: 219 highest/193 now/135 goal WOE: hhcg + exercise Start Date: R1: 19.4 lost	Here are my two questions for all of you: 1)you are not supposed to use any lotions. I am a massage therapist so that would be impossible for me, so basically I would not be able to do it and/or not be as successful? 2)I am trying to figure out why you can't breastfeed while doing it (meaning nursing an older child-not a newborn!- who has table food as nutrition as well). I nursed my son while pregnant with my daughter with no ill-effects. The only thing I can think that would be affected may be supply issues from the low calories. Nobody may have the answers for me so maybe I'll just get pregnant again, I am one who has lost weight both times I have been pregnant so I guess it works for me!

07-01-2010, 09:57 PM	#260
shebasmudder Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,234 Gallery: shebasmudder Stats: 228/224/160 WOE: 17 Day Diet Start Date: 9/2/11	The new thread for July is up : July HCG thread.

07-02-2010, 06:08 AM	#265
Joleen MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW Washington, in the middle of the Columbia River Posts: 1,660 Gallery: Joleen Stats: HT: 5'7" WT: 225.6/196.0	I know we have one example of a loading diet up above somewhere, but can anybody else post what they ate during those days? I'm having trouble imagining just how much I'm supposed to eat (I eat high fat every day, quite low carb). Do you need a bunch of carbs, too, or mainly fat? In P & I, he mentions bread and butter and pastries, but then mostly fatty things, so I'm a little confused. Do most of you actually eat those on the loading days?

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canadiandina Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,211 Gallery: canadiandina	do you really have to do 2 loading days? could you possibly do just 1 and then start the next day?

07-02-2010, 07:14 AM	#270
canadiandina Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,211 Gallery: canadiandina	another question...what qty of vegtables are we supposed to eat? i see it says 100 grams of meat, but what about the veg?