HCG - Page 10

Gilded Lily · 07-02-2010, 07:16 AM

I am soooo doing this. Can't wait.

debkeversole · 07-02-2010, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KOO

She looked good before she started! I want results like her. If i could do a 23 day cycle and lose 35 lbs. I be at goal and then go back to Atkins and eat like I do now to maintain.

AVERAGE for a woman is .5 a day half a pound a day times 23 days=11.5 pounds

debkeversole · 07-02-2010, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Joleen

I know we have one example of a loading diet up above somewhere, but can anybody else post what they ate during those days? I'm having trouble imagining just how much I'm supposed to eat (I eat high fat every day, quite low carb). Do you need a bunch of carbs, too, or mainly fat?

In P & I, he mentions bread and butter and pastries, but then mostly fatty things, so I'm a little confused. Do most of you actually eat those on the loading days?

Loading this weekend for Round 5 for me and Round 4 for my DS15
we have a turkey, large ham got him a take and bake pizza because he LOVES pizza i have HWC , 2 giant cheesecakes, butter pecan ice cream, 2 large packages of wings for the fryer and HOT DOGS galore! oh and just spoonfuls of COCONUT OIL HTH

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Originally Posted by canadiandina

another question...what qty of vegetables are we supposed to eat? i see it says 100 grams of meat, but what about the veg?

we go by a "LARGE HANDFUL" so whatever your handful would be and if you do get hungry add more of your vegetable in they are VERY low in calories

Gracie514 · 07-02-2010, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by canadiandina

another question...what qty of vegtables are we supposed to eat? i see it says 100 grams of meat, but what about the veg?

Just eat your veggies to equal out your 500 calorie days. I never counted my calories - I just followed strictly to the menu. I would eat 1/2 a cucumber, or 8 ounces of asparagus, 2 cups lettuce, as much celery as I could handle

, 1/2 can tomatoes, etc. The veggies are so low in calories (except asparagus) that I didn't go all head-crazy trying to figure out my exact calorie level. I know I was at 500 or below each day though.

Gracie514 · 07-02-2010, 07:34 AM

Deb ~ I'm so excited for you on Round 5!!!! You have done so well on protocol!!! What is your goal for this round? Are you doing another short one? I always start with the expectation of a short round and then see how I feel. I usually extend it for a week or so if I'm in a good mental state

debkeversole · 07-02-2010, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Gracie514

Deb ~ I'm so excited for you on Round 5!!!! You have done so well on protocol!!! What is your goal for this round? Are you doing another short one? I always start with the expectation of a short round and then see how I feel. I usually extend it for a week or so if I'm in a good mental state

Short round for DS15 for sure that will put him in P3 for the start of school way easier on him he loves P3 foods starting out short round for me and i will see how i feel with Steven moving to P3 without me

i hope to lose 15 pounds and that would put me at 75 pounds gone since October and would be unbelievable! it already is

Gilded Lily · 07-02-2010, 07:48 AM

Hi Deb. I tried to send you a PM but I haven't posted in so long that I've forgotten how.

I changed my username (from mis-informed). Anyway, I wanted to say hi and that I'm going to try the hcg. I ordered last night. I'm excited!!!

debkeversole · 07-02-2010, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gilded Lily

Hi Deb. I tried to send you a PM but I haven't posted in so long that I've forgotten how.

I changed my username (from mis-informed). Anyway, I wanted to say hi and that I'm going to try the hcg. I ordered last night. I'm excited!!!

mine don't work had a virus/trojan and lost all sorts of things but if you need to contact me i am debkeversole over at gmail and i have my facebook link in my siggy

Happy Losing

Gracie514 · 07-02-2010, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by debkeversole

Short round for DS15 for sure that will put him in P3 for the start of school way easier on him he loves P3 foods starting out short round for me and i will see how i feel with Steven moving to P3 without me

i hope to lose 15 pounds and that would put me at 75 pounds gone since October and would be unbelievable! it already is

WOW!!! 75 pounds is FANTASTIC

I know you will do fabulous!

Gilded Lily · 07-02-2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by debkeversole

mine don't work had a virus/trojan and lost all sorts of things but if you need to contact me i am debkeversole over at gmail and i have my facebook link in my siggy

Happy Losing

Yikes... sorry about the virus.

I sent you a message.

KOO · 07-02-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by debkeversole

AVERAGE for a woman is .5 a day half a pound a day times 23 days=11.5 pounds

Thanks Deb! I guess I'd have to go two rounds then. Still would excite me to see the 140's after all this time. I am headed to Disney World next Friday so won't even attempt trying it until after I am back home and settled.
I still have to get my DO's approval on it also.

KOO · 07-02-2010, 03:55 PM

I just read cons on the diet are side effects of headaches, chance of blood clots, restlessness and depression.HCG Diet
I think the blood clots just excluded me.

shebasmudder · 07-02-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KOO

I just read cons on the diet are side effects of headaches, chance of blood clots, restlessness and depression.HCG Diet
I think the blood clots just excluded me.

The amount of hcg used in Dr. Simeon's protocol does not illicit the side effects mentioned in that non-scientific article. The amount of hcg in homeopathic drops is miniscule. Those side effects are for people who take a much higher dose for fertility issues. It would be nice if they told the truth instead of publishing such a rash and negative article. Once again they cite the article that doesn't even tell you what diet was followed except to say they did not follow Dr. Simeon's.

mork · 07-02-2010, 07:06 PM

What if your on BCP's? How would that affect you?

KOO · 07-02-2010, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stinastina

The amount of hcg used in Dr. Simeon's protocol does not illicit the side effects mentioned in that non-scientific article. The amount of hcg in homeopathic drops is miniscule. Those side effects are for people who take a much higher dose for fertility issues. It would be nice if they told the truth instead of publishing such a rash and negative article. Once again they cite the article that doesn't even tell you what diet was followed except to say they did not follow Dr. Simeon's.

Okay, thanks, good to know. At least I might be able to do it. I will keep hope up that I will be allowed to try it.

shebasmudder · 07-02-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mork

What if your on BCP's? How would that affect you?

You NEED to stay on your BCPs !

HCG is also used for fertility treatments. In the protocol, Dr. S says to stay on them.

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Originally Posted by KOO

Okay, thanks, good to know. At least I might be able to do it. I will keep hope up that I will be allowed to try it.

I hope so, too, KOO. Don't forget to ask your DO about it. Did you have any luck with the naturopath ?

Tazcat · 07-02-2010, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by canadiandina

another question...what qty of vegtables are we supposed to eat? i see it says 100 grams of meat, but what about the veg?

you eat veggies to = 500 calories - so factor in your fruit and meat - add veggies. Amazing amount of them honestly.

Tazcat · 07-02-2010, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mork

What if your on BCP's? How would that affect you?

it didn't me

KOO · 07-02-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazcat

you eat veggies to = 500 calories - so factor in your fruit and meat - add veggies. Amazing amount of them honestly.

What would be an estimation of 100 grams of meat? Would that be like a deck of cards size? I am asuming that is splitting the meat into both lunch and supper. I feel like I don't ever need to eat a lot of meat. My dd,15 and I split an 8 oz filet yesterday eating out and honestly I couldn't finish my 4 oz. and had to bring some home.

KOO · 07-02-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stinastina

You NEED to stay on your BCPs !

HCG is also used for fertility treatments. In the protocol, Dr. S says to stay on them.

I hope so, too, KOO. Don't forget to ask your DO about it. Did you have any luck with the naturopath ?

TBH, I haven't checked into it yet since I probably couldn't start until I get back from Disney World. We leave on the 9th and come back on the 18th so I wouldn't be starting until I get back. Carb loading will be a problem for me too since I never eat any type of bread, pasta or potatoes anymore.

shebasmudder · 07-02-2010, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KOO

What would be an estimation of 100 grams of meat? Would that be like a deck of cards size? I am asuming that is splitting the meat into both lunch and supper. I feel like I don't ever need to eat a lot of meat. My dd,15 and I split an 8 oz filet yesterday eating out and honestly I couldn't finish my 4 oz. and had to bring some home.

100 grams is 3.5 ounces.

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Originally Posted by KOO

TBH, I haven't checked into it yet since I probably couldn't start until I get back from Disney World. We leave on the 9th and come back on the 18th so I wouldn't be starting until I get back. Carb loading will be a problem for me too since I never eat any type of bread, pasta or potatoes anymore.

It's not carb loading - it's FAT loading. There are plenty of foods high in fat but not in carbs - avocados, nuts, cheese, etc.

Tazcat · 07-02-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KOO

What would be an estimation of 100 grams of meat? Would that be like a deck of cards size? I am asuming that is splitting the meat into both lunch and supper. I feel like I don't ever need to eat a lot of meat. My dd,15 and I split an 8 oz filet yesterday eating out and honestly I couldn't finish my 4 oz. and had to bring some home.

3.5 oz Just get a food scale
But lean - veyr very very lean.

Think of cardboard ground beef....dry rubbery the 96% lean stuff
we aren't going for taste here - just results

Tazcat · 07-02-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KOO

I just read cons on the diet are side effects of headaches, chance of blood clots, restlessness and depression.HCG Diet
I think the blood clots just excluded me.

I just talked to my old boss. She's lost over 25 lbs, come off her anti-depressant and more....

Honestly any headache i got was from lack of caffeine and sugar.

You will see a longer side effect profile for most RX meds - but see a doctor if you're that worried

KOO · 07-02-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stinastina

100 grams is 3.5 ounces.

It's not carb loading - it's FAT loading. There are plenty of foods high in fat but not in carbs - avocados, nuts, cheese, etc.

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Oh overload on fat I can do. Heavy Whipping Cream is my friend.

[QUOTE=Tazcat;13652994]I just talked to my old boss. She's lost over 25 lbs, come off her anti-depressant and more....

Honestly any headache i got was from lack of caffeine and sugar.

You will see a longer side effect profile for most RX meds - but see a doctor if you're that worried[/QUOTE]

Yes, that is why I am going to wait to talk to my DO before starting it. After spending a week in the hospital with one blood clot in November, I sure don't want to risk another. But the homeopathic drops probably will be better for me than the injections.

shebasmudder · 07-02-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KOO

Oh overload on fat I can do. Heavy Whipping Cream is my friend.

Yes, that is why I am going to wait to talk to my DO before starting it. After spending a week in the hospital with one blood clot in November, I sure don't want to risk another. But the homeopathic drops probably will be better for me than the injections.

Mine, too ! I use it to make home made sugar free ice cream when I am on Phase 3 ! Yum !

Oh, my word ! I know that blood clot was scary ! I hope you get the okay.

debkeversole · 07-03-2010, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KOO

What would be an estimation of 100 grams of meat? Would that be like a deck of cards size? I am asuming that is splitting the meat into both lunch and supper. I feel like I don't ever need to eat a lot of meat. My dd,15 and I split an 8 oz filet yesterday eating out and honestly I couldn't finish my 4 oz. and had to bring some home.

100 grams = 3.5 ounces measure to be precise and you have it twice a day so 200 grams of meat total for the day

canadiandina · 07-04-2010, 05:25 AM

those drinking coffee...are you drinking it black?

debkeversole · 07-04-2010, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by canadiandina

those drinking coffee...are you drinking it black?

i have my tsp of milk in it(allowed amount) and stevia or splenda or da vincis i am thinking of ordering da vincis dulche de leche to see if that would taste more like cream i don't care for coffee but i have been freezing the leftovers from our pot in ice cube trays and cooling a pot for me then having like an iced coffee thing and it has made it much more enjoyable for me especially on hot days

shari · 07-04-2010, 05:55 AM

Hi Canandiandina, just popping in to respond..I drink mine with Splenda most mornings. Sometimes when I want to change it up I add a teaspoon of fat-free milk...doesn't hinder loss. HTH. I'm in P3 now.

canadiandina · 07-04-2010, 06:02 AM

thanks for the responses guys!! I am so nervous doing this for some reason -- only cause i want to follow the rules and see losses. i am on day 1 after 2 loading days so i just want to make sure i do this right. i just had a black cup of coffee and it wasn't too bad.

For lunch i will have 100 gms of shrimp with cabbage, and for dinner chicken with tomatoes. some where in there i will have a grapefruit too.
does this sound okay??

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07-02-2010, 07:16 AM	#271
Gilded Lily Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Happy Candy Sweet House Posts: 6,474 Gallery: Gilded Lily	I am soooo doing this. Can't wait.

07-02-2010, 07:34 AM	#275
Gracie514 Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 10,223 Gallery: Gracie514 Stats: 203.2/190/160 WOE: HCG- highest wt 250 lbs!!! Start Date: 1/4/2013 JUDD	Deb ~ I'm so excited for you on Round 5!!!! You have done so well on protocol!!! What is your goal for this round? Are you doing another short one? I always start with the expectation of a short round and then see how I feel. I usually extend it for a week or so if I'm in a good mental state

07-02-2010, 07:48 AM	#277
Gilded Lily Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Happy Candy Sweet House Posts: 6,474 Gallery: Gilded Lily	Hi Deb. I tried to send you a PM but I haven't posted in so long that I've forgotten how. I changed my username (from mis-informed). Anyway, I wanted to say hi and that I'm going to try the hcg. I ordered last night. I'm excited!!!

07-02-2010, 03:55 PM	#282
KOO Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 21,055 Gallery: KOO Stats: Starting 183(2/06)now below.... WOE: Hcg 9/12/12...142.5/134/130	I just read cons on the diet are side effects of headaches, chance of blood clots, restlessness and depression.HCG Diet I think the blood clots just excluded me.

07-02-2010, 07:06 PM	#284
mork Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,546 Gallery: mork	What if your on BCP's? How would that affect you?

07-04-2010, 05:25 AM	#297
canadiandina Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,211 Gallery: canadiandina	those drinking coffee...are you drinking it black?

07-04-2010, 05:55 AM	#299
shari Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 11,721 Gallery: shari Stats: 252-'04/197-'09/168.8/145 WOE: whatever works!	Hi Canandiandina, just popping in to respond..I drink mine with Splenda most mornings. Sometimes when I want to change it up I add a teaspoon of fat-free milk...doesn't hinder loss. HTH. I'm in P3 now.

07-04-2010, 06:02 AM	#300
canadiandina Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,211 Gallery: canadiandina	thanks for the responses guys!! I am so nervous doing this for some reason -- only cause i want to follow the rules and see losses. i am on day 1 after 2 loading days so i just want to make sure i do this right. i just had a black cup of coffee and it wasn't too bad. For lunch i will have 100 gms of shrimp with cabbage, and for dinner chicken with tomatoes. some where in there i will have a grapefruit too. does this sound okay??