Simeons HCG protocol--June 2010

[Victrola]

I've definitely lost something! It was a bit like pulling teeth to get to 38 inches, waist wise, since it would drop a half inch, go up a half inch, drop a quarter inch, etc.

Then, in the last few days, it dropped to 37.5 and stuck, and last night dropped to 37.

Even when I was a size six, I couldn't wear 95% of the knee high boots out there. Maybe losing on HCG will help that! Though, maybe not. My sister, who is just barely five feet tall and wears about a size two - SHE can't pull most boots over her calves!

[duece49424]

Good Morning to Everyone! Been busy-busy. Looks like everyone is going great!

Vic - congrats - you are almost there...you will see onederland soon. I couldn't believe it when I finally hit it during my last round...I hadn't seen the one"s since 1993...I felt sooooo good. I finally made it into a size 12 also from an 18 KUTGW!!

Elise - you will get a lot of good advice here! When I went away several times, it scared me so much. I am such a binger type person, and never had any will power to speak of. When I went out with friend, I ordered a club soda on the rocks with a lemon and everyone thought I was drinking vodka. At first I started saying I couldn't have this or that, but everyone gave me a hard time, so I let it roll, and just did my own thing. When I don't go out, it is easier. When I went away I did find things I could eat and I went to the store with my aunt and got things I could eat. I figured if I could get one person to let me do what I needed to do without giving me a hard time, I could make it happen. I have no support from anyone, as I have been overweight for so long, I think everyone has given up on me losing weight, and think I'm just on some other crazy diet. I have lost 34 pounds now, so they keep their mouths shut a little more..haha!

I did my loading days on Thursday and Friday and had my first vldc Saturday. So I am R2P2vlcd3, and got off my loading weight plus a little more....190.4 this morning! I am hoping to get into the 180's! Feeling a lot of energized excitement over here! For those of you who are new, I am on the injections, and just starting my second round. Started my first round on 3/16/10... (40 injections) lost 34 pounds, maintained for 6 weeks, started second round 6/3/10. This is just an amazing journey. I have tried since my husband died to get this weight off, and NOTHING worked. When he died in 1993 I weighed 150, turned to food and gained a lot...up to 230 just before I started this. I have stress, no support, a son with cerebral palsy, a foster child, a daughter in college, and I take meds which are for thyroid and blood pressure...also, prozac...ha! guess why! I mentor 6 kids now and 4 of them have lost one parent to cancer, and I work for an attorney part time mornings. I am taking the time to write now, because sometimes I'm so busy, I don't have time to do it. I will try and do better, and stop by to see how everyone is doing, also, I need to be accountable and get back in the habit of doing that. There is something about posting your "number" that seems to make it real!

There is wonderful advice and support here, and I could not have gotten this far without all of you. Thanks and have a really good Monday!

[abbynormal]

Originally Posted by Victrola

Still 200.8 on my last day!!

I bet you will make it there on your three no hcg days!

Elise - I hear you about the weekend you'll be away from home and how to eat. Three plus weeks without some kind of social activity is hard to schedule around. I will be interested to hear what other people have to say. It is a very restrictive food plan and that's hard to work around. I mean with lc you can typically get around it without too much difficulty but this is more difficult under those circumstances. I've got something coming up this weekend. I've already planned what I'm going to eat and it will definitely put me over 500 calories for the day, but I'm willing to take the hit to be able to get out and do this evening out.

[duece49424]

Gracie - I just saw your weight! Are you going to go another round? Is your goal still 150? You must be feeling great...you look wonderful in your picture!!!! Are you still losing about 20 pounds per round? I am going to do a 3 week this time instead of 6, as I will be taking vacation just at the time I start phase 3. I would be so happy if I could get 20 off this round...keep your fingers crossed!

[hcground1]

Good day all! I'm down another .5 pound this morning! I'm on day 10 and already down 8.5 pounds, woohoo! But....

TOM showed up Saturday morning, and since then I've been super dizzy. I've even had to grab onto something nearby when I stand up because the room starts to black out. I had problems with hypoglycemia (low-blood sugar) during adolescence, but not so much in my adult life. Is it possible that this is due to low iron because of TOM? I'm on hhcg spray, and it was working beautifully for the whole week before, and I'm still using it to keep the hunger at bay.

Has anyone else had these type of symptoms during TOM? It's never happened to me before.... I've read elsewhere the potassium helps with dizziness, do YOU take it?

Thanks a bunch, and congrats to everyone taking control of their life/weight/health!
Blessings and happy losing!

[elise135]

Originally Posted by duece49424

Elise - you will get a lot of good advice here! When I went away several times, it scared me so much. I am such a binger type person, and never had any will power to speak of. When I went out with friend, I ordered a club soda on the rocks with a lemon and everyone thought I was drinking vodka. At first I started saying I couldn't have this or that, but everyone gave me a hard time, so I let it roll, and just did my own thing. When I don't go out, it is easier. When I went away I did find things I could eat and I went to the store with my aunt and got things I could eat. I figured if I could get one person to let me do what I needed to do without giving me a hard time, I could make it happen. I have no support from anyone, as I have been overweight for so long, I think everyone has given up on me losing weight, and think I'm just on some other crazy diet. I have lost 34 pounds now, so they keep their mouths shut a little more..haha!

Thank you! I know that there should be something I can eat. I'm thinking that I will bring some apples with me just in case. If we eat out I will eat the plainest salads I can order. The graduation party I went to yesterday didn't even have a vegetable salad! That really had me thinking (and worrying) about my weekend trip!

You are doing so great for all you have been through! I hope I can follow your example.

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by duece49424

Gracie - I just saw your weight! Are you going to go another round? Is your goal still 150? You must be feeling great...you look wonderful in your picture!!!! Are you still losing about 20 pounds per round? I am going to do a 3 week this time instead of 6, as I will be taking vacation just at the time I start phase 3. I would be so happy if I could get 20 off this round...keep your fingers crossed!

Hello! Congrats on starting your second round Right now I am in P3 and will continue onto P4. I plan on starting my hopefully LAST round in the beginning of August. I have my sister's wedding and vacation in July so I'm hoping to just maintain through all of that. I am also going to start a T-Tapp bootcamp this week to get me in good shape for the wedding. I am enjoying P3 but I will also be happy to get to a lower weight. I'm not sure what my ultimate goal is, I'm just going to let my body decide. The 150's would be amazing!!!

[elise135]

Originally Posted by abbynormal

I bet you will make it there on your three no hcg days!

Elise - I hear you about the weekend you'll be away from home and how to eat. Three plus weeks without some kind of social activity is hard to schedule around. I will be interested to hear what other people have to say. It is a very restrictive food plan and that's hard to work around. I mean with lc you can typically get around it without too much difficulty but this is more difficult under those circumstances. I've got something coming up this weekend. I've already planned what I'm going to eat and it will definitely put me over 500 calories for the day, but I'm willing to take the hit to be able to get out and do this evening out.

Laura- I wish I knew about hcg this past winter, it would have been so much easier! I have so much going on this summer but I didn't want to keep putting off my start. I turn 50 this week and I want to be thin for this decade of my life! Good luck with your plans this weekend!

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by hcground1

Good day all! I'm down another .5 pound this morning! I'm on day 10 and already down 8.5 pounds, woohoo! But....

TOM showed up Saturday morning, and since then I've been super dizzy. I've even had to grab onto something nearby when I stand up because the room starts to black out. I had problems with hypoglycemia (low-blood sugar) during adolescence, but not so much in my adult life. Is it possible that this is due to low iron because of TOM? I'm on hhcg spray, and it was working beautifully for the whole week before, and I'm still using it to keep the hunger at bay.

Has anyone else had these type of symptoms during TOM? It's never happened to me before.... I've read elsewhere the potassium helps with dizziness, do YOU take it?

Thanks a bunch, and congrats to everyone taking control of their life/weight/health!
Blessings and happy losing!

Yes, I take 2 potassium pills with lunch and dinner while in P2. I also take a multi-vitamin and a B-12 twice a day. I use the hhcg spray also. You definitely need the potassium supplements and the B-12 helps with energy. HTH

[Kiley2801]

Originally Posted by hcground1

Good day all! I'm down another .5 pound this morning! I'm on day 10 and already down 8.5 pounds, woohoo! But....

TOM showed up Saturday morning, and since then I've been super dizzy. I've even had to grab onto something nearby when I stand up because the room starts to black out. I had problems with hypoglycemia (low-blood sugar) during adolescence, but not so much in my adult life. Is it possible that this is due to low iron because of TOM? I'm on hhcg spray, and it was working beautifully for the whole week before, and I'm still using it to keep the hunger at bay.

Has anyone else had these type of symptoms during TOM? It's never happened to me before.... I've read elsewhere the potassium helps with dizziness, do YOU take it?

Thanks a bunch, and congrats to everyone taking control of their life/weight/health!
Blessings and happy losing!

I also use the spray.

I've been supplementing w/ potassium and magnesium/calcium since the beginning. I've had TOM since VLCD4 (on #8 today) and no problems w/ dizziness. Still some hunger and tiredness, but it is manageable for the most part.

OH and I also meant to add this about TOM. I usually have very heavy cycles that have become increasingly painful over the last several years. Ummm.... knock on wood, but I've had almost no cramps w/ this TOM and it's very light. Like, really light. Crazy! Nooooo complaints though!

[hcground1]

Thanks Gracie and Leigh, I am going out later today so I will make sure to pick up some potassium and b-12. It makes it so much easier to have a support group who is so wise! ;D

Blessings!
Leona

[JunkInMyTrunk]

Originally Posted by Victrola

I need some feedback from those who have gone from P2 to P3 on rx HCG.

Is it 72 hours or three days? My last injection is Monday, so 72 hours would be Thursday morning.

So, can I eat later on Thursday or do I need to wait till Friday?

(please say Thursday please say Thursday please say Thursday please say Thursday)

My clinic had 72 hours. My last shot was Friday morning and I was able to eat P3 Monday morning, 72 hours.

On a side note, I thought I would just dig in the moment I was able to eat, but I was kind of afraid to. I didn't eat until almost 1:00pm today and I had
P2 chili!

I also lost weight below my 2 lb. limit from Friday to today.

I am incredibly happy to be in P3.

[JunkInMyTrunk]

Originally Posted by RiotGirl08

I need help

I think I got crappy hhcg drops that were like nothing but tap water or something. Here's my weight chart:
5/05/10 ~ 192.2 (loading)
5/06/10 ~ 192.2 (loading
5/07/10 ~ 193.0 VLCD1
5/08/10 ~ 192.4 VLCD2
5/09/10 ~ 192.0 VLCD3
5/10/10 ~ 190.8 VLCD4
5/11/10 ~ 189.4 VLCD5
5/12/10 ~ 188.2 VLCD6
5/13/10 ~ 188.2 VLCD7
5/14/10 ~ 188.8 VLCD8
5/15/10 ~ 188.0 VLCD9
5/16/10 ~ 187.6 VLCD10
5/17/10 ~ 187.2 VLCD11
5/18/10 ~ 186.0 VLCD12
5/19/10 ~ 186.2 VLCD13
5/20/10 ~ 185.6 VLCD14
5/21/10 ~ 185.4 VLCD15
5/22/10 ~ 184.6 VLCD16
5/23/10 ~ 183.0 VLCD17
5/24/10 ~ 182.4 VLCD18
5/25/10 ~ 181.4 VLCD19
5/26/10 ~ 183.0 VLCD20
5/27/10 ~ 181.8 VLCD21
5/28/10 ~ 183.8 VLCD22
5/29/10 ~ 181.6 VLCD23
5/30/10 ~ 181.2 VLCD24
5/31/10 ~ 181.4 VLCD25
6/01/10 ~ 182.0 VLCD26
6/02/10 ~ 181.8 VLCD27

I think the 11 pounds was purely from the VLC diet alone and now I've hit the starvation mode. From what I've read, if the hhcg was working properly, I would be registering something on the ketostix at least in the morning. And I've seen nada on them. I've lost only one inch, and that was in my hips. Every other measurement I took was the same. Actually, my waist was one inch higher! I've followed the protocol to a T. So I'm calling it a round today, instead of doing 40 days like I originally intended.

I'm wondering if there's any way to tell if the drops were just crap? If they were, then I'd like to order from somewhere else and start all over ASAP. But I know if they were actually "legit" (I don't know what else to call it) then I really should wait and do the detox phase first before doing another round. I'm an instant gratification kinda gal. I don't want to waste another 3 weeks doing the no sugar/ starch if it's not necessary.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

If you were eating grissini/melba toast and fruit, I don't think that a ketostix would register.

[JunkInMyTrunk]

Originally Posted by Victrola

I zipped up my size 12 jeans today!! Okay, so it's Old Navy size 12 which doesn't quite count as a real size 12, but I couldn't get those jeans up my thighs in April!!

Doesn't that feel great?

I bought a pair of trouser jeans from J Jill and never wore them because they were a little tight. Forgot about them and fjust ound them in my closet. Put them on and they really should be a smaller size because now they are too loose. I wore them anyway and found an old belt that I could cinch them up with, but they are definitely too big, but because they are trouser jeans they can be worn a litlle looser.

I guess this is a good problem to have!

[shebasmudder]

Originally Posted by JunkInMyTrunk

If you were eating grissini/melba toast and fruit, I don't think that a ketostix would register.

Anytime you are burning fat, it's going to register on a ketostix.

[JunkInMyTrunk]

Originally Posted by elise135

Hi everybody! I started my hcg drops and loading on June 1st, after loading I made my way up to 209.5 I have to say that I am speechless after 4 VLCD's I am down to 197.5! For me this is incredible, I am hypothyroid and it takes me months and months to lose 12 pounds!


I have been reading and reading and reading and I think I pretty much know what I am doing, ( the beauty of this protocol is that it is so strict that I find it easy, kwim)


How do you all handle your social life on this protocol? I did really well this weekend, I had dinner out with friends on Saturday night and I stuck to protocol the best that I could. My sil had a few remarks to make about me not drinking my usual wine, but they all got over it. Then I had a graduation party yesterday and boy was that hard! There was not one item of food that I could eat, so I just drank water and coffee the whole time and came home and made my meal.


I am going to visit a cousin over fathers day weekend. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I will be flying and staying at her house and I am scared to death that there will be nothing that I can eat until I get back on Sunday night!


I am so happy that I came over and started reading the hcg threads! Everyone is doing so great and I am so inspired by all of you! I hope I can have the same kind of success!

I have thyroid issues, also. This protocol has been a godsend as I've been slow to lose in the past.

I find this protocol hard to follow when doing alot of socializing. I got off protocol the last two weekends of my last round. In when I say got off, I mean really got off, drinking eating sugar and starch. I gained weight and was able to get it back off and then lose some more, like 2.5 for the week.

If I were to get off for a weekend again while on a round, I'd try to eat things that were more low carb. I ditch the sugar and starch. My beer was low carb, but not much of the food was.

I still lost 25 lbs. in 40 days, but I wonder what I could have lost had I not gotten off.

I'm going to do shorter rounds from now on, especially in the summer because we are more socially active.

[cbarrett]

Originally Posted by Victrola

I've definitely lost something! It was a bit like pulling teeth to get to 38 inches, waist wise, since it would drop a half inch, go up a half inch, drop a quarter inch, etc.

Then, in the last few days, it dropped to 37.5 and stuck, and last night dropped to 37.

Even when I was a size six, I couldn't wear 95% of the knee high boots out there. Maybe losing on HCG will help that! Though, maybe not. My sister, who is just barely five feet tall and wears about a size two - SHE can't pull most boots over her calves!

I've always had that problem too, except mine is with cankles not calves. Even when I weighed 120 lbs, I couldn't wear boots.

[JunkInMyTrunk]

Originally Posted by hcground1

Good day all! I'm down another .5 pound this morning! I'm on day 10 and already down 8.5 pounds, woohoo! But....

TOM showed up Saturday morning, and since then I've been super dizzy. I've even had to grab onto something nearby when I stand up because the room starts to black out. I had problems with hypoglycemia (low-blood sugar) during adolescence, but not so much in my adult life. Is it possible that this is due to low iron because of TOM? I'm on hhcg spray, and it was working beautifully for the whole week before, and I'm still using it to keep the hunger at bay.

Has anyone else had these type of symptoms during TOM? It's never happened to me before.... I've read elsewhere the potassium helps with dizziness, do YOU take it?

Thanks a bunch, and congrats to everyone taking control of their life/weight/health!
Blessings and happy losing!

i take potassium and I heard it helps with the dizzyness. I take anywhere from 3-4 99mg capsules/day. I think that is less potassium then you would get from a banana. It also helps with the foot cramps I get. I also take magnesium.

[cbarrett]

Originally Posted by elise135

Thank you! I know that there should be something I can eat. I'm thinking that I will bring some apples with me just in case. If we eat out I will eat the plainest salads I can order. The graduation party I went to yesterday didn't even have a vegetable salad! That really had me thinking (and worrying) about my weekend trip!

You are doing so great for all you have been through! I hope I can follow your example.

When I have to eat out, I get a plain salad with no dressing and extra lemons on the side. Then I mix the lemon juice with a little splenda (or whatever AS they have on the table) and a little water. Makes a pretty good dressing, kinda like tart lemonade.

A seafood place would be an easy place to eat steam crab or lobster or shrimp. Otherwise you can ask for grilled chicken or beef with no oil/butter. Just make sure you eat your normal portion. After a while I was able to eyeball it.

[hellsbelles]

Originally Posted by Gracie514

Riot Girl ~ It's hard to know exactly what happened - did you write down your menus, lotions, drinks, etc? Were you hungry for those 27 days? I wouldn't worry about the ketostix - I've never even used them during protocol. Plus, you should test the ketostix in the evening I believe and not in the morning. I would honestly think that if the drops weren't working you would've have been absolutely starving, weak, and nearly passing out. My guess would be an issue with your food, lotions, make-up, or drinks. Did you follow protocol or did you tweak it? It's impossible to say what happened unless you logged your foods and how you felt each day. Were you tapping the bottom of your bottle each time you used the drops to activate it?

What does the protocol say about make up and lotion? I didn't know that would have an effect at all! I'm getting ready to start loading, etc on Saturday so I was just wondering about this before I start...

[shebasmudder]

Originally Posted by hellsbelles

What does the protocol say about make up and lotion? I didn't know that would have an effect at all! I'm getting ready to start loading, etc on Saturday so I was just wondering about this before I start...

You should read "Pounds and Inches" - it is free online and you can download it for free - you can just google it and find it. But it does say lipstick is fine, baby oil is fine, mineral powders are fine.

[JunkInMyTrunk]

Originally Posted by cbarrett

I've always had that problem too, except mine is with cankles not calves. Even when I weighed 120 lbs, I couldn't wear boots.

Some places now have those extended calf boots where the part around the calf is a little bigger. I'm not sure if they increase the size of the ankle part, but it would make sense to do that.

[Victrola]

Ugh, so not hungry today. I'm eating dinner right now and I really could have left it. I wasn't hungry yesterday, either, and didn't bother eating dinner. Since I wonder if that's why I didn't release anything, I'm making myself eat today, but yuck.

[Tyl]

grapefruit eaters...are u eating 1/2 a grapefruit twice a day or just 1 serving and another fruit or just 1 whole grapefruit at 1 time?

thanks!

[duece49424]

Vic - I felt like that almost the whole time last round, even into phase 3 for weeks! Hard to believe, isn't it?

Chanty - sorry I can't help you cause I can't eat grapefruit cause of some medications I'm on...I know someone will answer you soon! I think Gracie started this phenomenon of grapefruit...wish I could have it!!!

[shebasmudder]

Originally Posted by chantyl03

grapefruit eaters...are u eating 1/2 a grapefruit twice a day or just 1 serving and another fruit or just 1 whole grapefruit at 1 time?

thanks!

It depends on the size of the grapefruit. If it's a small one, then I count it as 1 serving.

[Victrola]

Originally Posted by chantyl03

grapefruit eaters...are u eating 1/2 a grapefruit twice a day or just 1 serving and another fruit or just 1 whole grapefruit at 1 time?

thanks!

I pretty much eat an entire grapefruit's worth. I started with actual grapefruits and did such a bad job getting the actual fruit out (I can't eat it like an orange - I'm still very new to the grapefruit train!!) that I turned to prepackaged red grapefruit segments that are packaged in juice or water & Splenda. I eat two servings worth according to the package.

It hasn't inhibited my losses as far as I know. I mean, I know I stopped losing every day weeks ago, but as I charted my losses along with what I ate, grapefruit didn't hurt.

[Tyl]

thankys yall! i appreciate the feedback.

[hcground1]

Originally Posted by chantyl03

grapefruit eaters...are u eating 1/2 a grapefruit twice a day or just 1 serving and another fruit or just 1 whole grapefruit at 1 time?

thanks!

I eat a whole grapefruit. I peel and segment it (as best I can) and eat the whole thing in one setting. They are a bit on the small size though. If I was eating HUGE ones I'd probably eat half at a time. I like them way better than apples! Oh, and I don't think it's made a difference in how much I loose, but I enjoy them.

[abbynormal]

Originally Posted by elise135

.... I turn 50 this week and I want to be thin for this decade of my life! ...

I turn 50 in October and I understand exactly what you mean.

Grapefruit - I've been eating half of a medium size one as a serving. I could happily go for a whole one!

I just woofed down a piece of chicken that was twice the size it should have been. I think it's because I got around to dinner so late. I've got to do better with timing so I don't do this again.

I guess in the big scheme of things if I was going to overeat, then eating an extra serving of grilled chicken certainly wasn't the worst thing I could be shoving down my mouth. I'll be interested in seeing how this looks on the scale tomorrow morning.