Simeons HCG protocol--June 2010

[Selahgal]

ARGH!!!! I happened again! New June thread and I'm sitting around on my rear wondering why the LCF notifications stopped. DOH!!! Always playing 'catch up'!!! Ok, marking a spot. PHEW!

I'm on Round 2 P2 VLCD 12 and I'm stuck in a stall, but this too shall pass. Already looking for a culprit [sometimes there just isn't one!] and regrouping, etc. Just another bump in the road!

[Kiley2801]

Originally Posted by gwynhyvar

I thought P3 was supposed to be six weeks (42 days)? Or is that only if you're not going to do another round?

No, the minimum is 23 days, max is 42 days (6 weeks). Although apparantely those on hhcg can go longer? I surely will not be one of them though!

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by Kiley2801

No, the minimum is 23 days, max is 42 days (6 weeks). Although apparantely those on hhcg can go longer? I surely will not be one of them though!

that is for P2 P3 is 21 days of no starch no sugar P4 is 3+ weeks of slowly adding back in starch and sugar

some people cycle after 3 weeks of P3 then they go into another round and yes after 21 days you load again for another cycle

[gwynhyvar]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

that is for P2 P3 is 21 days of no starch no sugar P4 is 3+ weeks of slowly adding back in starch and sugar

some people cycle after 3 weeks of P3 then they go into another round and yes after 21 days you load again for another cycle

So, for instance if planning more than one round (I am using the hhcg spray):

P1: 2 load days
P2: 43 hhcg days (full round, VLCD)
P3: 21 no starch/no sugar days

then back to
P1: 2 load days
etc.

Cont. until I reach goal weight.

Really only 3 weeks between rounds instead of six like I'd thought. Cool.

[Kiley2801]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

that is for P2 P3 is 21 days of no starch no sugar P4 is 3+ weeks of slowly adding back in starch and sugar

some people cycle after 3 weeks of P3 then they go into another round and yes after 21 days you load again for another cycle

OHHH right--sorry, I was thinking of p2!

[Selahgal]

Originally Posted by gwynhyvar

So, for instance if planning more than one round (I am using the hhcg spray):

P1: 2 load days
P2: 43 hhcg days (full round, VLCD)
P3: 21 no starch/no sugar days

then back to
P1: 2 load days
etc.

Cont. until I reach goal weight.

Really only 3 weeks between rounds instead of six like I'd thought. Cool.

I think the confusion is that Dr. S didn't HAVE 'phases' but they were made popular by Kevin Trudeau's book, but in his book Phase 1 was a detox phase of about a month I think. Then Phase 2 is the actually 'diet' with the first two days being 'load days' and then 23-42 days of the plan. Phase 3 is adding everything BUT starch & sugar for 21 days [some do less and then do not load again when going back to P2] and Phase 4 is adding back starch and sugar, i.e., 'maintenance'.

[metqa]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

ooh don't use the completely fat free they replace the fat with sugar eek! and yup it is gross don't they have like a 1% or something?? reg is 4% so 2% would be lower i know i have used one that wasn't the one completely fat free and had no stalls from it

Originally Posted by Gracie514

Oh Victrola!!! That stuff is NASTAY!!! I think the one I buy is either 1% or 2% fat and it's good. I mix it with splenda and Hershey's sugar-free cocoa and it tastes like chocolate ice cream - YUMMMM!!!

P&I said the cottage cheese had to be made from skim milk, so fat free IS the one we should be using. I had not had cottage cheese before so it seemed gross to me my first try. I've since tried full fat and love it even plain, but during P2 I discovered that it was very edible when made savory with spices and herbs. Even the slick texture was not so bad when mixed with flavorful spices like curry, or mexican spices, or onion/garlic/herbs/black pepper, etc. and a dash of hot sauce.

Originally Posted by Victrola

Finally released another pound - so, now I'm at 202.8. Last injection is Monday; it's flown by so fast!

I know it's old news but congrats!

Originally Posted by abbynormal

Am I the only weird one who doesn't like anything sweet on them? I peel the skin off and eat them like an orange.


What's the opinion on balsamic vinegar? I've read so much the past few weeks and trying to locate sources right now is escaping me. TIA!

I eat my grapefruit plain as well, no sugar or salt or spices. It's so good and refreshing expecially for breakfast when I dont' want "food".

Originally Posted by Gracie514

I was so sick of apples - I couldn't even stand the sight of them!!! When I switched to grapefruit I swear my losses picked up. Plus they taste very refreshing in the summer! 0.6 pounds is a nice loss How many more days of P2 do you have? I'm in P3 right now and I'm trying to correct my Memorial weekend eating

I think grapefruit has the fewest calories per 100 gram of all the allowable fruits on P2. Plus there are recent studies that prove that eating grapefruit helps with weight loss and control even in people not restricting calories so I think it is a lucky synergy! I intend to eat primarily grapefruit during my next rounds.

Originally Posted by Gracie514

So, when we go to P4 we should theoretically be able to find a normal way to eat and be stable. That doesn't mean bingeing on carbs, starches, sugars, etc. We still need to eat "healthy or clean". [...]
If you diet by decreasing calories our bodies will get all confused and it will most likely mess up the good thing we had going. I hope I'm making sense and not just jibber jabbering Anyways, the best way to do it is use the hhcg to get to goal and then stabilize in P3 (reset hypothalamus to new weight) and then maintain in P4.

Originally Posted by Gracie514

Once you get to goal and you complete P3 without cheating your hypothalamus should be reset to your goal number. The only way you would need to go back on the hcg would be if you overeat and gain back a lot of weight. I figure after my last round I need to be accountable for the rest of my life to maintain. I will follow the 2 pound rule as best I can. If I see a jump on the scale I know I will have to be careful for the next couple days. I think this is how a normally thin person eats. You could become dependent on going back on the hcg if you just eat out of control and keep gaining it back. I don't think you are hcg dependent unless you do that. I have been 8 pounds above LDW in my second P3 and was able to get back down with clean P3 eating. It's all in how you eat after the hcg. It's what got us in trouble in the first place!!!

That kinda makes me sad because it seems so easy, but I haven't been binging or eating poorly, in fact I was well into weeks of P4 and hadn't eaten any added sugar or starch and was actually counting calories to stay around the calorie limit for my activity level at my new weight and despite that my weight HAS crept up and over the 2lb limit. Now I'm not going to eat steak every couple of days just because, that's ridiculous, but I do monitor what I eat and such, and eating cleanly should have brought my weight down again but it hasn't and steak days do not always work. I don't know why but they don't. I don't think you have to eat "out of control" to have trouble maintaining. and I don't want to have to "jump back on the juice" everytime I gain 5 lb and can't get it back off the way "normal" people do. I intend to have a normal eating lifestyle with some fun exercise and hope to maintain. What would we all do if, heaven forbid, something were to happen to make HCG unavailable forever? Would we never be able to lose weight by any other method again because we used Hcg before. I sincerely hope not. I hope I can get off this 4lb as well as you got off your 8lb. Wish me luck!

Originally Posted by Gracie514

To each their own but I don't want to rely on low-carb and tons of exercise. If I was able to do that I wouldn't need the hcg! LOL

I here you there! I happen to like low carb, but at the same time, I like having the freedom to choose other foods occasionaly and not be permanently punished with a gain that I can't get back down from. That's why I tried doing the P4 as specified and having some sugar and some starch, I'm supposed to be able to maintain my new weight with a normal diet and calories for that weight. I want to be able to exercise for fun and maybe that would help me maintain but I don't want it to me my only way to maintain either!

Originally Posted by Kiley2801

Question- I got some liquid b-12 from the vitamin shoppe. It is 1000mcg of b-12 (methylcobalin). Other ingredients: vegetable gylcerin, water, citric acid, rasberry natural flavor and berry natural flavor. Says NO: sugar, yeast, corn, starch, etc...

The thing is that it tastes really sweet, so now I am worried about the "berry natural flavors."

Any thoughts or advice as to whether I should discontinue it?

glycerine has a sweet taste. I'm assuming you are in P2, so I wouldn't worry about the b-12 affecting you negetavely. I hope it helps you. I'm ordering my favorite liquid b-12 to take now and during my next round as well.

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by gwynhyvar

So, for instance if planning more than one round (I am using the hhcg spray):

P1: 2 load days
P2: 43 hhcg days (full round, VLCD)
P3: 21 no starch/no sugar days

then back to
P1: 2 load days
etc.

Cont. until I reach goal weight.

Really only 3 weeks between rounds instead of six like I'd thought. Cool.

some people do cycle but honestly especially on your first round please try to complete the 21 days of P3 and the 3 weeks of P4 i did and stabilized beautifully that is how i knew something wasn't right my 2nd time when i was having such wild fluctuations and so i went back on P2 after only 1 week into P4 that is also why i am a round ahead of my husband and son each time is supposed to be longer in between rounds so my next break is supposed to be like 20 weeks!! IDK if i can last that long though i would love to reach that 100 gone by Octobe wow 100 pounds in a year doesn't that sound awesome???

[Kiley2801]

glycerine has a sweet taste. I'm assuming you are in P2, so I wouldn't worry about the b-12 affecting you negetavely. I hope it helps you. I'm ordering my favorite liquid b-12 to take now and during my next round as well.

Aha! That explains it- thank you! Yep, I am R1P2D5.

[JunkInMyTrunk]

Originally Posted by stinastina

You're supposed to double your protein and start slowly adding fat back in. No more melba toasts or grissinis. You do need to weigh yourself everyday and do a correction day if you go over your LDW window of +2 pounds.

I have to tell you I jumped right in and spent most of the day in the restroom, so be careful. I had bacon, cheese, home made ice cream, Marie's Bleu Cheese Dressing, butter - ahhh, it was heaven.

Thanks for the information. It is going to be hard at first because I so want a piece of fatty steak, eggs in bacon fat, butter, basically just some fat!

[shebasmudder]

Originally Posted by JunkInMyTrunk

Thanks for the information. It is going to be hard at first because I so want a piece of fatty steak, eggs in bacon fat, butter, basically just some fat!

I hear you ! And I had it ! Just slowly introduce them back. To me, it was worth it. I missed my cheese ! That's why I'm going to be cycling from now on. More than 21 days is too much for me and I definitely can't do hcg during TOM. So during TOM, I will do P3 and then jump back on afterwards. I am never going to load again either, I feel like I'm wasting time trying to lose all the loading weight.

I have a question about the hypothalamus reset. I see people talking about it as if it happens in P3. But I get the feeling it actually happens in P2 because my sleep pattern is so disturbed, I cannot get to sleep until 4 am, even if I take a sleeping pill and the hypothalamus definitely regulates sleep.

[Victrola]

I need some feedback from those who have gone from P2 to P3 on rx HCG.

Is it 72 hours or three days? My last injection is Monday, so 72 hours would be Thursday morning.

So, can I eat later on Thursday or do I need to wait till Friday?

(please say Thursday please say Thursday please say Thursday please say Thursday)

[shari]

Good morning ladies. I agree with Metqa, grapefruit has helped me lose more this round than before. In 4 vlcds I've lost 11.8lbs...and that's with only gaining 4lbs during loading. It's a staple now..lol.

Sorry Victrola don't know the answer for injections. Hope someone else does..

Stinastina~loading is sooo important (if in P3 for over two weeks) for storing fat and makes it easier to transition into P2 with the hcg. You don't gain the same amount during each round. My last round I gained 12lbs loading in 3 days and this time I loaded for the same amount of days and only gained 4lbs. It varies....

[wishbone]

weighed in this morning at 210. leveling is doing pretty good.

[abbynormal]

Originally Posted by Victrola

I've made it to 201.8 - gaaaaah! It's like pulling teeth getting to Onederland!

Hang on there girl!

I'm on p2 and I tried crab cakes last night. Ick! What a perfectly good waste of my meal. I ate it but it would have been more pleasant to just eat the crab plain! Lesson learned.

What about beverages like Crystal Lite? Any one using that? I'm good with drinking water but it would be a nice change of pace.

So with 4 vlc days under my belt I'm down 6.5# which makes me very happy. My scale only measures to the .5 and I'm thinking of picking up a new one that reads in 1/10ths. Probably should make that my end of P2 prize so I'm not tryin to calculate the difference between two scales in the middle of one.

[Selahgal]

Originally Posted by abbynormal

Hang on there girl!

I'm on p2 and I tried crab cakes last night. Ick! What a perfectly good waste of my meal. I ate it but it would have been more pleasant to just eat the crab plain! Lesson learned.

What about beverages like Crystal Lite? Any one using that? I'm good with drinking water but it would be a nice change of pace.

So with 4 vlc days under my belt I'm down 6.5# which makes me very happy. My scale only measures to the .5 and I'm thinking of picking up a new one that reads in 1/10ths. Probably should make that my end of P2 prize so I'm not tryin to calculate the difference between two scales in the middle of one.

Hi Laura! The only downfall with Crystal Light is the aspartame, a known neurotoxin. Have you tried Zevia sodas? Or iced tea? Yerbamate? There's also a few beverage recipes in the recipe section that are very nice. And don't forget homemade lemonade!

Congrats on your losses! Isn't it exciting????

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by JunkInMyTrunk

Thanks for the information. It is going to be hard at first because I so want a piece of fatty steak, eggs in bacon fat, butter, basically just some fat!

add one piece of bacon to your first P3 meal and that will let you know if it will affect you plus be so very yummy!!

I usually plunge right in with a big veggie cheese mushroom omelet myself! but this time i went more slowly and it seems to be working well!

Originally Posted by stinastina

I hear you ! And I had it ! Just slowly introduce them back. To me, it was worth it. I missed my cheese ! That's why I'm going to be cycling from now on. More than 21 days is too much for me and I definitely can't do hcg during TOM. So during TOM, I will do P3 and then jump back on afterwards. I am never going to load again either, I feel like I'm wasting time trying to lose all the loading weight.

I have a question about the hypothalamus reset. I see people talking about it as if it happens in P3. But I get the feeling it actually happens in P2 because my sleep pattern is so disturbed, I cannot get to sleep until 4 am, even if I take a sleeping pill and the hypothalamus definitely regulates sleep.

Stina when you halt dosing for TOM just do your regular P2 eating don't do the P3 or you will gain!!! the hcg is still in your system and i don't want you to set back your losses you are doing so well

i think it all affects the hypothalamus but what is meant by reset is making a new high point that you don't want to go past thus we don't go 2 pounds above or below LDW HCG gives me better sleep only each round is getting to where i need less of it!! and i am awaking easier and more refreshed really enjoying my sleep and the energy it is giving me

Originally Posted by Victrola

I need some feedback from those who have gone from P2 to P3 on rx HCG.

Is it 72 hours or three days? My last injection is Monday, so 72 hours would be Thursday morning.

So, can I eat later on Thursday or do I need to wait till Friday?

(please say Thursday please say Thursday please say Thursday please say Thursday)

everyone has been saying lately 72 hours so go for it!! on THURSDAY! a word of caution though i waited about 80 hours between rounds 3 and 4 and i was still WAY WAY overfull with my omelet so much so i did not really get the full enjoyment out of it! so after this 4th round i went slower and just had 2 eggs and one piece of bacon for my first P3 meal much better and the hunger control lasted even about 3 more days after my 72 hours was up i am just amazed by it all every day SATISFIED with my water 2 eggs and one piece of bacon?? before i could have had the whole doz eggs and a side of bacon!!!(and biscuits and gravy etc) just mind boggling to me!

weight this morning on R4P3D6 is 290.2 whoohoo! one pound under LDW and been hovering there for the last 9 days!! hoping this whole P3 goes as smooth!
Happy Losing everyone!

[debkeversole]

Laura i kept some crystal Lite on hand for my DS14 he would have an 8 oz glass every couple of days but i made koolaid and tea with splenda to keep in the fridge and used stevia for everything else
and he takes a Zevia soda everyday to school

great idea on the plan with the scale!!
Marci i LOVE your new picture!

[shebasmudder]

Originally Posted by shari

Good morning ladies. I agree with Metqa, grapefruit has helped me lose more this round than before. In 4 vlcds I've lost 11.8lbs...and that's with only gaining 4lbs during loading. It's a staple now..lol.

Sorry Victrola don't know the answer for injections. Hope someone else does..

Stinastina~loading is sooo important (if in P3 for over two weeks) for storing fat and makes it easier to transition into P2 with the hcg. You don't gain the same amount during each round. My last round I gained 12lbs loading in 3 days and this time I loaded for the same amount of days and only gained 4lbs. It varies....

I plan to do P3 for less than 14 days. If you do less than 14 days, then you should not load.

Originally Posted by debkeversole

add one piece of bacon to your first P3 meal and that will let you know if it will affect you plus be so very yummy!!

I usually plunge right in with a big veggie cheese mushroom omelet myself! but this time i went more slowly and it seems to be working well!


Stina when you halt dosing for TOM just do your regular P2 eating don't do the P3 or you will gain!!! the hcg is still in your system and i don't want you to set back your losses you are doing so well

i think it all affects the hypothalamus but what is meant by reset is making a new high point that you don't want to go past thus we don't go 2 pounds above or below LDW HCG gives me better sleep only each round is getting to where i need less of it!! and i am awaking easier and more refreshed really enjoying my sleep and the energy it is giving me

everyone has been saying lately 72 hours so go for it!! on THURSDAY! a word of caution though i waited about 80 hours between rounds 3 and 4 and i was still WAY WAY overfull with my omelet so much so i did not really get the full enjoyment out of it! so after this 4th round i went slower and just had 2 eggs and one piece of bacon for my first P3 meal much better and the hunger control lasted even about 3 more days after my 72 hours was up i am just amazed by it all every day SATISFIED with my water 2 eggs and one piece of bacon?? before i could have had the whole doz eggs and a side of bacon!!!(and biscuits and gravy etc) just mind boggling to me!

weight this morning on R4P3D6 is 290.2 whoohoo! one pound under LDW and been hovering there for the last 9 days!! hoping this whole P3 goes as smooth!
Happy Losing everyone!

I won't eat P3 until 72 hours after stopping hhcg, therefore, I won't be gaining anything except TOM weight which is usually 3+ pounds for me.

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by stinastina

I plan to do P3 for less than 14 days. If you do less than 14 days, then you should not load.



I won't eat P3 until 72 hours after stopping hhcg, therefore, I won't be gaining anything except TOM weight which is usually 3+ pounds for me.

are you doing an interruption or just stopping for TOM?? cause about 3 days would be enough of a break for TOM and you go right back to dosing

[shebasmudder]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

are you doing an interruption or just stopping for TOM?? cause about 3 days would be enough of a break for TOM and you go right back to dosing

Three days is not enough for me. TOM visits for at least a whole week so that is the time I will do my interruption.

[hcground1]

Good morning all! I have been a little nervous about what TOM would bring for me, but last night it arrived, and this morning I'm still down .5 pound! I guess it just made me feel a little better to still see the scale go down a bit. I'm using hhcg and I'm on r1p2d8. I've lost a total of 8 pounds so far, and I am starting to feel like I will be able to reach my goal. I am doing this because my dh and I are going to the Caribbean and I want to get rid of the baby weight I've been packing around for 11 years, ugh! I only have 12.5 pounds left to go!

This is really exciting for me because last year I worked my butt off exercising and counting calories, and in 10 months I had only lost 4 pounds, and most of it was my chest! Well, over the holidays I got a bit lazy, and gained those back. You know what I've noticed though? I have lost 8 pounds with hcg and my chest hasn't shrunk at all! So far it all seems to be coming off my midsection, but my pants are fitting looser so I know some is coming off my butt and thighs too. I know I'm rambling, I'm just feeling super excited this morning. Go hcg!

Oh, I'm a little confused about what Victrola said about the 3 days. Isn't 72 hours the exact same thing as 3 days?

[debkeversole]

some abbreviations that might be helpful to those just starting out

B/F: Boy Friend (can also be Best Friend)
BFing: Breast Feeding
BMR - Basal Metabolic Rate
BW or BS - bacteriostatic water

cc - cubic centimeters (equal to 1 ml)
DC - Dear or Darling Child
DD - Darling Daughter (we are never frustrated with our kids, are we?) Could very well be darn or dear, but is usually an endearment.
DH - Dear Husband (or Darn Husband as the case may be)
DS - Darling Son (See DD also)
DS - Diaper Swap
DW - Dear Wife (See DH)
Dr. S - Dr. A.T.W. Simeons
ETA - Edited to Add

HFE - High Fat Experiment
HFS-Health Food Store
HTH - Hope that helps
HWC - heavy whipping cream
IDK - I don't know
IM - Intramuscular
IMO - In my opinion
IMHO - In my humble opinion
IU - International Units

KT - Kevin Trudeau - author of "The Weight Loss Cure"
KWIM - Know What I Mean?
LCD - Low Calorie Diet
LIW - Last Injection Weight
LOL: Laugh(ing) out loud
LMSAO - Laughing My Shrinking A** Off
LSDW - Last Sublingual Dose Weight (also written LDW - Last Dose Weight)
ml - mililiters (equal to 1 cc)
MOMD - Master of My Domain
MWAH - an online kiss (the sound a kiss would make)
NHD - Naked Happy Dance
Onderland - onderland (one derland) is when your weight is in the 100's, so when someone is in their low 200's there may be discussion of entering onderland.

P1 - Phase 1 (KT's term) Cleansing phase
P2 - Phase 2 - Losing weight phase. Uses hCG and VLCD. Hypothalmus is resting.
P3 - Phase 3 - Maintaining weight loss phase. No hCG in this phase. Hypothalmus is resetting.
P4 - Phase 4 - Adding starches and sugars back to the diet.
P & I - Pounds & Inches (manuscript)
PM - Private Message

R2P2 - Round 2, Phase 2 or doing a second round of Phase 2
ROFLOL - Rolling on Floor, Laughing out Loud - also written ROFL
TOM - Time of Month (Menses)
VLCD - Very Low Calorie Diet
WLP - Weight Loss Protocol
YMMV - Your mileage may vary

In addition to the abbreviations, the terms Phase and Round may be unfamiliar. Dr. Simeons doesn't use these terms in Pounds & Inches, but Kevin does in his book. Dr Simeon's prefers to use the term "Courses"

Phase 1 (P1) - Cleansing phase, switching to organic.
Phase 2 (P2) - Taking hCG and doing Very Low Calorie Diet
Phase 3 (P3) - Three weeks or more, no hCG, increasing calories but eating NO sugars or starches (other than fruits)
Phase 4 (P4) - Gradually adding in unprocessed sugars and starches. This should be the way you eat for the rest of your life, occasionally enjoying "bad" food, but not eating it as a lifestyle.

If you are doing Phase 2 for the first time, you are doing Round 1 of Phase 2, or R1P2 or P2R1, whichever way you want to put it.

After you complete Phase 3 and 4 and return to Phase 2, you are on your second Round, R2P2, etc.

In other words,, your "ROUNDS" start with your 1st Injection (or Sublingual Dose) and last until you start another 1st Injection (or Sublingual Dose).

[Victrola]

Originally Posted by hcground1

Oh, I'm a little confused about what Victrola said about the 3 days. Isn't 72 hours the exact same thing as 3 days?

The difference is whether or not you count the last day as part of the 72 hours.

And I was happy to read that yes, I do! So, Thursday I will have CREAM!

You know what's ridiculous? The meal I have planned is still actually very light - a sort of beef vegetable soup. But I am looking forward to it like it's a banquet!

And I'm at 200.8 today. SO. CLOSE.

[abbynormal]

Originally Posted by Victrola

...And I'm at 200.8 today. SO. CLOSE.

You're going to do it! Yea!

Thanks for the insight on Crystal Lite. Of all the things I could have been craving, what I really want is a huge ice filled glass of diet coke!

[RiotGirl08]

I need help

I think I got crappy hhcg drops that were like nothing but tap water or something. Here's my weight chart:
5/05/10 ~ 192.2 (loading)
5/06/10 ~ 192.2 (loading
5/07/10 ~ 193.0 VLCD1
5/08/10 ~ 192.4 VLCD2
5/09/10 ~ 192.0 VLCD3
5/10/10 ~ 190.8 VLCD4
5/11/10 ~ 189.4 VLCD5
5/12/10 ~ 188.2 VLCD6
5/13/10 ~ 188.2 VLCD7
5/14/10 ~ 188.8 VLCD8
5/15/10 ~ 188.0 VLCD9
5/16/10 ~ 187.6 VLCD10
5/17/10 ~ 187.2 VLCD11
5/18/10 ~ 186.0 VLCD12
5/19/10 ~ 186.2 VLCD13
5/20/10 ~ 185.6 VLCD14
5/21/10 ~ 185.4 VLCD15
5/22/10 ~ 184.6 VLCD16
5/23/10 ~ 183.0 VLCD17
5/24/10 ~ 182.4 VLCD18
5/25/10 ~ 181.4 VLCD19
5/26/10 ~ 183.0 VLCD20
5/27/10 ~ 181.8 VLCD21
5/28/10 ~ 183.8 VLCD22
5/29/10 ~ 181.6 VLCD23
5/30/10 ~ 181.2 VLCD24
5/31/10 ~ 181.4 VLCD25
6/01/10 ~ 182.0 VLCD26
6/02/10 ~ 181.8 VLCD27

I think the 11 pounds was purely from the VLC diet alone and now I've hit the starvation mode. From what I've read, if the hhcg was working properly, I would be registering something on the ketostix at least in the morning. And I've seen nada on them. I've lost only one inch, and that was in my hips. Every other measurement I took was the same. Actually, my waist was one inch higher! I've followed the protocol to a T. So I'm calling it a round today, instead of doing 40 days like I originally intended.

I'm wondering if there's any way to tell if the drops were just crap? If they were, then I'd like to order from somewhere else and start all over ASAP. But I know if they were actually "legit" (I don't know what else to call it) then I really should wait and do the detox phase first before doing another round. I'm an instant gratification kinda gal. I don't want to waste another 3 weeks doing the no sugar/ starch if it's not necessary.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

[debkeversole]

Abby speaking of the Zevia! they have a cola one!! really good over a big frosty glass of ice!! diet rite cola is pretty good too

[RiotGirl08]

My drops came in 2 bottles, 2 oz each. The other bottle is still intact, (never opened) so I think I will totally start all over tomorrow with the other bottle on the hopes that maybe that one bottle was a fluke. I'll give it 10 days and if nothing changes, then I guess I'll go with a different brand/ supplier.

[metqa]

I'm curious what you HCG'ers think. There is a discussion in a thread about unreasonable expectations and losing weight too fast.(more than 2lb per week)

I wanna know what you think about the idea that
"losing weight fast is not ideal because the person doesn't learn how to maintain that loss"

The idea that you have to lose slow in order to learn how to eat at a lower weight.

What do you think about that? Do you belive that? Do you think that when you get to your goal weight via HCG , that you are gonna blow it because you don't know how to eat?

[gwynhyvar]

I know how to eat to maintain my weight. My problem is adrenal fatigue and a sluggish thyroid that won't let me get the weight OFF. If HCG will enable me to shed those pounds, and I follow protocol to get through the end result, I don't see why, provided I eat reasonably, that I won't be able to keep it off. My 2 cents.