Simeons HCG protocol--June 2010

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by abbynormal

Gracie - I love grapefruit but when I was shopping the other day the ones in the store weren't very good looking. I think I'm going to be able to run by a different grocery this afternoon and will see what they have. Am I the only weird one who doesn't like anything sweet on them? I peel the skin off and eat them like an orange.


What's the opinion on balsamic vinegar? I've read so much the past few weeks and trying to locate sources right now is escaping me. TIA!

see if it has any sugar in it if not i say go for it! yeah the grapefruit here at wally world looks pretty bad this week

[cbarrett]

Deb: I've replaced the video card on my laptop and it wasn't too bad. But my computer manufacturer had step by step instructions for my model that I downloaded off their website. Kinda like computer repair for dummies. Also if you'll shop around online, you can probably find a pretty decent price. I bought mine off a website for about 30% what they charged in store for just the part & that included shipping.

Shari: Good luck on your round!

Laura: Hope you're doing well today. VLCD2 was the hardest for me, I wanted to eat my left arm. But after that I haven't been hungry at all. So if you're having a hard time, hang in there!

Jan: Good job on P3. I'm starting to look forward to it myself.

FF: Wow, 26.8 lbs!!

Victrola: only 2.8 lbs til Onederland, you can do it.

[cbarrett]

Today is vlcd15 and I only lost 0.4 lbs this morning. I'm trying not to be spoiled but I've been averaging 1 lbs a day. I know it's because TOM is here and I was in the car all day yesterday so I didn't drink enough water. My husband and I travel for work every Monday & Friday and I have a hard time getting all my water in. He hates tons of potty breaks!

But I'm not gonna complain cause so far I've lost 20.4 lbs already. Wahooo! Wish I have found out about this diet years ago, it's the most effective and easiest diet I've ever been on.

Have a good week everybody. Gotta love short work weeks!

[Chunk]

Hi Ladies,

Well I'm excited to say I started HHCG this morning. I'm loading today and tomorrow. Im a Male 340ish pounds so I have a ways to go. I had a few questions was hoping maybe you guys could help me with!

1. I am doing the HHCG drops and ordered some 'regular' HCG sub-lingual mix online. Can I immediately switch over from the Homeopathic drops to the regular drops in the middle of P2?

2. I have an issue with leftover meat and was wondering if you can do a Rotisserie chicken (3 oz) in place of cooking a chicken breast? Is this a no-no?

Thanks for all the help.

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by cbarrett

Deb: I've replaced the video card on my laptop and it wasn't too bad. But my computer manufacturer had step by step instructions for my model that I downloaded off their website. Kinda like computer repair for dummies. Also if you'll shop around online, you can probably find a pretty decent price. I bought mine off a website for about 30% what they charged in store for just the part & that included shipping.

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thanks Courtney SIGH on this particular model the video card stuff is integrated into the motherboard UGH 2004 toshiba M35x i have replaced screens, keyboards hard drives etc just having them over the years and too cheap to have others do it for me, so i thought i would tackle replacing the video card too SIGH but when i went looking for one last night the darn motherboard has to be replaced so between 100-200 bucks for that ugh and that is me putting it in so saving that money to try to get me a new one but i am so very comfortable with that one trying to figure out which external hard drive case would be compatible with the drive so i can pull it and get my data off of it
yeah definitely a good investment learning how to replace parts of them for yourself ugh i just put the new keyboard in less than 2 months ago wonder if i could pull it and resell it on ebay for what i paid??

Originally Posted by Chunk

Hi Ladies,

Well I'm excited to say I started HHCG this morning. I'm loading today and tomorrow. Im a Male 340ish pounds so I have a ways to go. I had a few questions was hoping maybe you guys could help me with!

1. I am doing the HHCG drops and ordered some 'regular' HCG sub-lingual mix online. Can I immediately switch over from the Homeopathic drops to the regular drops in the middle of P2?

2. I have an issue with leftover meat and was wondering if you can do a Rotisserie chicken (3 oz) in place of cooking a chicken breast? Is this a no-no?

Thanks for all the help.

In October my DS14 started where you are now(he was a little over342) on HHCG he weighed in this morning at 288!! he has done 3 round since October and the changes have been amazing!
answers 1. i have done so and did well
2. for P2 the whole chicken is too fatty(but delicious) stick with the proteins listed in P&I but FINISH that chicken on your loading days and you wont have to worry about leftovers

remember to get your water in everyday and with both kinds of drops nothing 15 minutes before or after your drops HAPPY LOSING!

[FitMommyNow]

Gracie - I hope you are right about the grapefruit! I just happened to pick up a couple more today. I had 1/2 of one yesterday and it was so good so I went back to have more on hand.

I dropped another .6 lbs since yesterday (kind of my standard number) despite the chicken broth so all is well!

[cbarrett]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

i just put the new keyboard in less than 2 months ago wonder if i could pull it and resell it on ebay for what i paid??

Never hurts 2 try. I need to replace my keyboard also, just haven't made the time. I got a new laptop less than a year ago and immediately popped 2 keys off of it. I'm so graceful, lol. Luckily I don't use them very often.

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by FitMommyNow

Gracie - I hope you are right about the grapefruit! I just happened to pick up a couple more today. I had 1/2 of one yesterday and it was so good so I went back to have more on hand.

I dropped another .6 lbs since yesterday (kind of my standard number) despite the chicken broth so all is well!

I was so sick of apples - I couldn't even stand the sight of them!!! When I switched to grapefruit I swear my losses picked up. Plus they taste very refreshing in the summer! 0.6 pounds is a nice loss How many more days of P2 do you have? I'm in P3 right now and I'm trying to correct my Memorial weekend eating

[FitMommyNow]

Originally Posted by Gracie514

I was so sick of apples - I couldn't even stand the sight of them!!! When I switched to grapefruit I swear my losses picked up. Plus they taste very refreshing in the summer! 0.6 pounds is a nice loss How many more days of P2 do you have? I'm in P3 right now and I'm trying to correct my Memorial weekend eating

I can't remember what day I'm on but I have all month. My last VLCD day is July 1st. I'm just getting warmed up! Now that the chicken broth has turned the lights back on in my brain, I'm loving this. Good losses, doable diet, all good. Planning Round 2 for the first week in September so I'll be down another good chunk before the holidays. The goal for November and December is simply.....MAINTAIN! Grapefruit is good but not what I have in mind for Christmas dinner.

Been enjoying strawberries and asparagus being in season right now. I guess when I do Round 2 oranges and apples will be in season and taste better than they do now. I'm eating them but most have been

[Calli777]

Hey everyone! I'm finally back after my lil interruption. The party was a huge hit and so was the food. I made a lot of things I could eat on P3 so I thoroughly enjoyed myself!! The only downfall was when I made the LC jalapeno poppers....um didnt know I was supposed to wear gloves! So yep, later that night I was at the ER with chemical burns. I've cut banana peppers and poblamo and never had any problems so I thought these would be the same. WOW was I wrong!!! Bless the man who invented dilauded!!! So I maintained fine during the break and now Im back on the hhcg wagon again. I was on it for 30 days before the break and I want to be able to go for about 3 more weeks. Since it is homeopathic that should be ok right? Because I am getting married on the fourth of July (that decision was made oh about 3 hours ago!!!) and want to be at goal!!!

[abbynormal]

Originally Posted by Calli777

...Because I am getting married on the fourth of July (that decision was made oh about 3 hours ago!!!) and want to be at goal!!!

Ah HELLOOOOOO! You snuck that in there! Best wishes to you! And sorry to hear about the chemical burn.

cbarrett - day 2 is killing me. I have a bit of a headache and I didn't sleep well last night. I totally understand the concept of gnawing off one's arm right about now. I know it will get better.

Just finished my second liter of water and off for a refill -- after the obligatory stop in the bathroom. Seriously, that has to count as exercise!

[wishbone]

Originally Posted by abbynormal

Gracie - I love grapefruit but when I was shopping the other day the ones in the store weren't very good looking. I think I'm going to be able to run by a different grocery this afternoon and will see what they have. Am I the only weird one who doesn't like anything sweet on them? I peel the skin off and eat them like an orange.


What's the opinion on balsamic vinegar? I've read so much the past few weeks and trying to locate sources right now is escaping me. TIA!

LOL ...then I'm a weirdo too!!! I peel and eat like an orange!!!

JAN

[shebasmudder]

Originally Posted by Calli777

Hey everyone! I'm finally back after my lil interruption. The party was a huge hit and so was the food. I made a lot of things I could eat on P3 so I thoroughly enjoyed myself!! The only downfall was when I made the LC jalapeno poppers....um didnt know I was supposed to wear gloves! So yep, later that night I was at the ER with chemical burns. I've cut banana peppers and poblamo and never had any problems so I thought these would be the same. WOW was I wrong!!! Bless the man who invented dilauded!!! So I maintained fine during the break and now Im back on the hhcg wagon again. I was on it for 30 days before the break and I want to be able to go for about 3 more weeks. Since it is homeopathic that should be ok right? Because I am getting married on the fourth of July (that decision was made oh about 3 hours ago!!!) and want to be at goal!!!

Congratulations !!

[FitMommyNow]

Quick Question:

When you are in between rounds can you lose weight after the stabilization 3 weeks by doing your own thing? I would think it would be really hard to lose on regular Atkins or something after doing a 500 calorie diet.

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by FitMommyNow

Quick Question:

When you are in between rounds can you lose weight after the stabilization 3 weeks by doing your own thing? I would think it would be really hard to lose on regular Atkins or something after doing a 500 calorie diet.

for pHASE 4 YOU GO BACK TO YOUR NORMAL EATING ugh caps lock again sorry
if your normal eating is Atkins go back to it

this is not a normal 500 calorie diet!! it is 500 from food and 1500-200 released each day by hcg from your fat stores! Please read P&I AGAIN because that last sentence in your post strongly suggests you aren't getting the protocol someone better at explaining things than me please chime in here

[Victrola]

Man, I think I'm HUNGRY today. Counting the hours till dinner; counting the days till I can have a real meal. I'm almost fully stocked up for my first three weeks of P3 and actually sauteed up a bunch of my current favorite vegetable mix this morning (mushrooms, onions, artichoke hearts, spinach, LOTS of butter) and put it all up in a bunch of tupperware.

It smelled so good.

Seven more VLCD's. Seven more VLCD's.

[FitMommyNow]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

for pHASE 4 YOU GO BACK TO YOUR NORMAL EATING ugh caps lock again sorry
if your normal eating is Atkins go back to it

this is not a normal 500 calorie diet!! it is 500 from food and 1500-200 released each day by hcg from your fat stores! Please read P&I AGAIN because that last sentence in your post strongly suggests you aren't getting the protocol someone better at explaining things than me please chime in here

No, I get what the theory is behind the protocol and that 1500-2000 calories are releasing each day. I've just heard from some friends that did it that had a real hard time losing weight on their own after HCG.

I'm all for doing another round or two but I do want to know I won't be dependent on it every time I want/need to lose a few pounds.

[debkeversole]

back to 290.2 thank goodness my laptop dying has me way depressed SIGH and i know that is why i was up over a pound yesterday wonder how much alcohol would be ok in P3?? so last 6 weigh ins are five at 290(ish today's had that .2 with it) and one at 291.2 i wanna stabilize at 290 this round!!
still thinking about cycling this time and DS14 and me doing another short round before school starts back 15 more pounds off eACH OF US WOULD PUT US LIKE (ugh caps lock) 75 pounds released since Oct. and i love love love the sound of that

his 15th birthday is next week

[abbynormal]

Survived VLCD2 yesterday. I think I'm going through the withdrawal headache. I'm sure another day or so and I'll feel better but right now everytihng is a struggle.. Got by the grocery yesterday afternoon and found some nice looking grapefruits. Ready to jump in to those today!

[wishbone]

weighed in at 211 this morning .5 under leeway.

Laura - or anyone else maybe...have you ever BROILED a grapefruit? And if so....how did you do it? I mean, simply cut it in 1/2? Leaving the rind on? I am a peel and eat kinda gal...but this broiling sounds interesting.

JAN

[FitMommyNow]

Lost a full pound since yesterday! Going for grapefruit again today!

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by FitMommyNow

No, I get what the theory is behind the protocol and that 1500-2000 calories are releasing each day. I've just heard from some friends that did it that had a real hard time losing weight on their own after HCG.

I'm all for doing another round or two but I do want to know I won't be dependent on it every time I want/need to lose a few pounds.

Did they gain the weight back after the hcg or just wanted to lose more after their round? Here's the thing - we reset our hypothalamus in P3 within that 2 pound window. So, when we go to P4 we should theoretically be able to find a normal way to eat and be stable. That doesn't mean bingeing on carbs, starches, sugars, etc. We still need to eat "healthy or clean". So, say I stabilize this round at 178 pounds and this is my ultimate goal (just for explanation sake) - then I need to maintain here. If I overeat one day then I need to compensate the next couple days to get back down. Now, if I wanted to lose more I would definitely do another round of hhcg - but if I didn't do the hhcg I would NOT try to lose on my own. We have reset our hypothalamus which is a GOOD thing. If you diet by decreasing calories our bodies will get all confused and it will most likely mess up the good thing we had going. I hope I'm making sense and not just jibber jabbering Anyways, the best way to do it is use the hhcg to get to goal and then stabilize in P3 (reset hypothalamus to new weight) and then maintain in P4.

[FitMommyNow]

Originally Posted by Gracie514

Did they gain the weight back after the hcg or just wanted to lose more after their round? Here's the thing - we reset our hypothalamus in P3 within that 2 pound window. So, when we go to P4 we should theoretically be able to find a normal way to eat and be stable. That doesn't mean bingeing on carbs, starches, sugars, etc. We still need to eat "healthy or clean". So, say I stabilize this round at 178 pounds and this is my ultimate goal (just for explanation sake) - then I need to maintain here. If I overeat one day then I need to compensate the next couple days to get back down. Now, if I wanted to lose more I would definitely do another round of hhcg - but if I didn't do the hhcg I would NOT try to lose on my own. We have reset our hypothalamus which is a GOOD thing. If you diet by decreasing calories our bodies will get all confused and it will most likely mess up the good thing we had going. I hope I'm making sense and not just jibber jabbering Anyways, the best way to do it is use the hhcg to get to goal and then stabilize in P3 (reset hypothalamus to new weight) and then maintain in P4.

That all makes sense. My friends maintained around 5lbs from their LDW except for one. One gained quite a bit back but she didn't do PHASE 3...just started eating Doritos about two days after finishing the VLCD and she gained back 15 of the 30 pounds she had lost within 3 months. Frankly, I'm surprised she didn't gain back more and faster. Anyhoo, she is done with HCG and has been trying to lose just by low carbing and can't lose more than about 2lbs (and she isn't cheating).

Another didn't want to do HCG again (too restrictive with a traveling job) and has tried WW and can't make any progress on the 30lbs or so she still wants to lose.

So, it has me curious as to whether or not we become HCG dependent and with what you say about the hypothalamus....it is entirely possible.

[gwynhyvar]

This makes sense. After 2 kiddos, I really did seem to have a "reset" point after they were born. My body just kind of went back to that weight, each time. So using the hhcg as if PG, at the end of P3 there would be a new set point.

Then to make sure I don't eat stupidly and gain.

[abbynormal]

Originally Posted by wishbone

...Laura - or anyone else maybe...have you ever BROILED a grapefruit?...

I'm of no help here. I finally got to the point I could admit I'm a bit of a freak about certain foods that should not be cooked in any manner - tomatoes, bell peppers, celery, and any fruit. Love them raw. Can not stand the thought of them cooked in anything.

I bought some crab for lunch today. Yum!

[Kiley2801]

Hello hcg friends~

VLCD4 today, and things are going A-ok. Down 4lbs from loading.

Still some hunger pangs now and then, but they are manageable, and I feel confident they will be subsiding as the days pass. I definitely picked a challenging time to start this protocal, as TOM started today. So I think (hope!) my losses will pick up a bit when he leaves town.

Been eating the same thing for the past few days-- tilapia, asparagus, chicken breast, spinach, apple and grapefruit. And 2 melbas toasts per day. I mixed it up last night and made a "green smoothie." I blended 1 cup of frozen strawberries, water, lemon juice, stevia AND about 3 cups of raw baby spinach. It doesn't LOOK pretty but tastes great and it's really, really filling.

I am being daring today and drinking an iced coffee plain w/ some vanilla stevia creme. YUM. But we'll see how the scale reacts.

I saw a tip on the my fat cure forum about doing a "sea salt cocktail" to combat both lightheadedness AND hunger. It's just a tsp. of sea salt mixed with warm water. You drink that and chase it with 8 oz of plain water. By golly if that doesn't help tremendously!

Originally Posted by wishbone

weighed in at 211 this morning .5 under leeway.

Laura - or anyone else maybe...have you ever BROILED a grapefruit? And if so....how did you do it? I mean, simply cut it in 1/2? Leaving the rind on? I am a peel and eat kinda gal...but this broiling sounds interesting.

JAN

I just did the other night. Sprinked w/ stevia and cinnamon and broiled about 2-3 mins. You know, it was good, but I actually prefer them raw (also w/ cinnamon and stevia). But YMMV!

[debkeversole]

Kiley i don't like coffee so my whole last round i had iced coffee with stevia(and some davincis and my milk allowance) everyday after i figured out to freeze the leftover coffee into cubes!1 lost pretty good too!

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by FitMommyNow

That all makes sense. My friends maintained around 5lbs from their LDW except for one. One gained quite a bit back but she didn't do PHASE 3...just started eating Doritos about two days after finishing the VLCD and she gained back 15 of the 30 pounds she had lost within 3 months. Frankly, I'm surprised she didn't gain back more and faster. Anyhoo, she is done with HCG and has been trying to lose just by low carbing and can't lose more than about 2lbs (and she isn't cheating).

Another didn't want to do HCG again (too restrictive with a traveling job) and has tried WW and can't make any progress on the 30lbs or so she still wants to lose.

So, it has me curious as to whether or not we become HCG dependent and with what you say about the hypothalamus....it is entirely possible.

Once you get to goal and you complete P3 without cheating your hypothalamus should be reset to your goal number. The only way you would need to go back on the hcg would be if you overeat and gain back a lot of weight. I figure after my last round I need to be accountable for the rest of my life to maintain. I will follow the 2 pound rule as best I can. If I see a jump on the scale I know I will have to be careful for the next couple days. I think this is how a normally thin person eats. You could become dependent on going back on the hcg if you just eat out of control and keep gaining it back. I don't think you are hcg dependent unless you do that. I have been 8 pounds above LDW in my second P3 and was able to get back down with clean P3 eating. It's all in how you eat after the hcg. It's what got us in trouble in the first place!!!

[Victrola]

Again with the 202.8. Grrr. Of course, Bernice didn't come yesterday, so that may be it.

You know, just to add to the conversation, but there ARE a couple of women posting on the main board who used HCG to jumpstart and then got to goal purely by low carbing. Just saying. I think it is possible, especially if you want to work out a lot, which really isn't possible during P2 protocol. I know I'm taking my P3 and P4 breaks to work out quite a bit and eat lots of protein to compensate.

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by Victrola

Again with the 202.8. Grrr. Of course, Bernice didn't come yesterday, so that may be it.

You know, just to add to the conversation, but there ARE a couple of women posting on the main board who used HCG to jumpstart and then got to goal purely by low carbing. Just saying. I think it is possible, especially if you want to work out a lot, which really isn't possible during P2 protocol. I know I'm taking my P3 and P4 breaks to work out quite a bit and eat lots of protein to compensate.

Really? Where do I find them? I'd like to read about it. I know Afuentes who is a pretty big exerciser and weight lifter has lost a little more but I don't know anybody else. I personally don't like low-carb so I don't want to have to eat that way for the rest of my life I like to have a variety of foods and on my last P4 was able to do that and stay within my LDW. I also don't work out a lot - besides working 40+ hours per week and chasing 3 kids! LOL To each their own but I don't want to rely on low-carb and tons of exercise. If I was able to do that I wouldn't need the hcg! LOL