Simeons HCG protocol--May 2010

[duece49424]

Marci....we are still spring chickens...aren't you starting to feel like one?? That pic was taken with my daughter last fall when she came home to visit. Had my kids when I was 36 and 37, she will be 25 this summer. In that pic I was 220, and mostly I do admit, I have learned how to hide the fat somewhat. Can't quite hide it with your face tho. Got a new hair cut...if I can remember how to post a pic, I'll put that one up..

So, you're 59! I will be 62 in November. I was worrying a little before I started this that cause of age or meds, this wouldn't work, but it did! I like to post some of this just because maybe it will help someone else who is thinking about hcg. Now, I'm wondering if I'm the oldest one here...haha!

[metqa]

Actually I meant like different places on the same hard floor. like if your scale is in the bathroom on tile floor and you move it 2 feet in a different direction, does it give you a different reading?

one is not supposed to use a scale on carpeted or soft surfaces.

[duece49424]

Metqa...I know...I would never put it on the carpet, but I have to say, I have not experienced that. It's on a tile floor...maybe I will experiment and let you know! I'm curious now..LOL

[FatFatnomore]

metqua, my scale does the same thing. I use it on my bathroom's tile floor, but I have to make sure it's on the exact same tile facing the exact same direction everyday otherwise I'll get an inaccurate read. lol

[duece49424]

Scales with Attitudes

[newjeneed]

Hello ladies!


Loading day 1 went very well however I felt sick all day from all this food!! I can't believe I'm actually looking forward to VLCD (which I guess is the point). I hope this loading weight comes off fast however, because I think I've gained 6 or 7lbs in the last 24hours. YIKES!!!



Anywho, glad to hear that everyone is well! I'm laying on the couch right now eating pizza and trying not to puke... I'll check back in soon!


Everyone have good releases ok!!!

[Calli777]

Originally Posted by metqa

Actually I meant like different places on the same hard floor. like if your scale is in the bathroom on tile floor and you move it 2 feet in a different direction, does it give you a different reading?

one is not supposed to use a scale on carpeted or soft surfaces.

Its due to a slight unevevness. Had that happen a few times.

[AmyMacT]

Question: If I absolutely cannot stand the thought of eating any food (P2VLCD7), what is the minimum? I thought I saw someone say eat at least the two proteins, but now I'm wondering if I should have at least one melba and one veggie. Do I NEED to eat 500 calories?

Any thought?

[wishbone]

Originally Posted by AmyMacT

Question: If I absolutely cannot stand the thought of eating any food (P2VLCD7), what is the minimum? I thought I saw someone say eat at least the two proteins, but now I'm wondering if I should have at least one melba and one veggie. Do I NEED to eat 500 calories?

Any thought?

Are you feeling under the weather?
I think it was Metqa...she posted that if she could'nt eat anything...she at least made sure that she ate the protein for the day.

JAN

[AmyMacT]

No, I feel great. Just absolutely zero appetite.

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by AmyMacT

No, I feel great. Just absolutely zero appetite.

i would just make sure i had all my protein and then eat normally P2 tomorrow!

HUNGER CONTROL IS AMAZING ISN'T IT ugh sorry caps lock again to think even 500 calories is too much food at times is flabbergasting me and yes i have felt that way too and i think it is wonderful!

[wishbone]

Question for the walden farms users....

I bought the blue cheese flavor. And no matter what I did to it...I can't eat it. So...I bought the ranch today. (I was craving some lettuce w/buffalo chicken on top). Well...I just can't get past that "twang" in there.

I poured a small amount in a bowl and added some different spices to it, and stirred it up. I had also tried this with the blu cheese (no luck there, LOL).
Well, I added some McCormick's perfect pinch stuff. It was garlic & herb and some of the chicken. It was OK, better.

Any suggestions on some "different" spices? What do you think would help?

The salad was pretty good regardless...broke up my piece of melba toast for some "croutons".


JAN

[Calli777]

Originally Posted by wishbone

Question for the walden farms users....

I bought the blue cheese flavor. And no matter what I did to it...I can't eat it. So...I bought the ranch today. (I was craving some lettuce w/buffalo chicken on top). Well...I just can't get past that "twang" in there.

I poured a small amount in a bowl and added some different spices to it, and stirred it up. I had also tried this with the blu cheese (no luck there, LOL).
Well, I added some McCormick's perfect pinch stuff. It was garlic & herb and some of the chicken. It was OK, better.

Any suggestions on some "different" spices? What do you think would help?

The salad was pretty good regardless...broke up my piece of melba toast for some "croutons".


JAN

I would probably try some chives, parsley and dill for the ranch and maybe garlic and onion for the blue cheese if you havent tried those ones yet.

[AmyMacT]

Originally Posted by wishbone

Question for the walden farms users....

I bought the blue cheese flavor. And no matter what I did to it...I can't eat it. So...I bought the ranch today. (I was craving some lettuce w/buffalo chicken on top). Well...I just can't get past that "twang" in there.

I poured a small amount in a bowl and added some different spices to it, and stirred it up. I had also tried this with the blu cheese (no luck there, LOL).
Well, I added some McCormick's perfect pinch stuff. It was garlic & herb and some of the chicken. It was OK, better.

Any suggestions on some "different" spices? What do you think would help?

The salad was pretty good regardless...broke up my piece of melba toast for some "croutons".


JAN

I couldn't take the blue cheese or ranch either. We found one we loved - creamy bacon - it's very good. I couldn't do Thousand Island or Zesty Ranch either. Usually I just take some mustard, stevia, & red wine vinegar to make "honey mustard." I think I like that best.

[AmyMacT]

BTW, has anybody tried the rest of Walden Farms' products. I'm curious about the mayo and pasta sauces. I saw they even had caramel dip - would be good w/apples.

[Calli777]

Originally Posted by AmyMacT

BTW, has anybody tried the rest of Walden Farms' products. I'm curious about the mayo and pasta sauces. I saw they even had caramel dip - would be good w/apples.

The caramel and the chocolate are good. The marshmallow dip makes me wanna I couldnt even begin to describe what it tastes like but it sure is NOT marshmallow or anything like I've ever tasted before.

[Selahgal]

Originally Posted by wishbone

Question for the walden farms users....

I bought the blue cheese flavor. And no matter what I did to it...I can't eat it. So...I bought the ranch today. (I was craving some lettuce w/buffalo chicken on top). Well...I just can't get past that "twang" in there.

I poured a small amount in a bowl and added some different spices to it, and stirred it up. I had also tried this with the blu cheese (no luck there, LOL).
Well, I added some McCormick's perfect pinch stuff. It was garlic & herb and some of the chicken. It was OK, better.

Any suggestions on some "different" spices? What do you think would help?

The salad was pretty good regardless...broke up my piece of melba toast for some "croutons".

JAN

I bought the Walden Farms BBQ sauce, the russian dressing, the sweet onion dressing and the creamy italian dressing. Wretched stuff!!!!! I thought about tweaking them, but decided to toss them instead. I decided I'm only eating really tasty and delish foods since I was eating so little food. No crapola for me!

[Dedee62]

After 6 VLCD days, I've lost 8.8 lbs. So glad to be headed back to where I was and I will not ever be lax on maintenance again!

[metqa]

Originally Posted by Calli777

The caramel and the chocolate are good. The marshmallow dip makes me wanna I couldnt even begin to describe what it tastes like but it sure is NOT marshmallow or anything like I've ever tasted before.

Despite differing opinions on all the WF product, that seems the be the exact same response EVERYONE gives to the marshmallow!

Originally Posted by Dedee62

After 6 VLCD days, I've lost 8.8 lbs. So glad to be headed back to where I was and I will not ever be lax on maintenance again!

Way to Rock it Dee!!

[Bhambabe]

[QUOTE=40winks;13484312]Hi, I thought I'd drop in and give an update.


I'm on R2P3Day7 and I'm 49.8 pounds lighter than when I started 4 months ago. I feel great, my sinuses are clear now, my BP and heart rate are excellent. I'll probably need to do two or three more rounds to get to what the charts say I should weight, but I hope that will be enough.

Amazing releasings those pounds good for you .
Janeann

[Victrola]

Be proud of me, everyone! I went to my party and had not a single drop of alcohol, nor a single bite of food off plan! And still had a perfectly great time!

[AmyMacT]

That's fantastic - good for you. I know it isn't easy. Food I could pass on, but I really miss wine. I even thought about having a vodka when DH and I went out last night, but I stayed tough and just got club soda.

Just remember, every time we cheat we set ourselves back. Isn't it nice to wake up and see the scales going down? That's what stops me from cheating - I couldn't stand to see the scales go up just for a drink or two.

[cbarrett]

Hey everyone,

DH and I are starting our first round 2mrw. I'm not really looking forward to the loading days, but I know they're essential to not being hungry later on.

I picked up our HHCG kits from my doctor's office on Friday and have a few questions for some of you experts.

We're using the HC3 trim kits made by NuMedica. In addition to the HHCG and the instruction booklet, there are several other supplements they want you to take during your 40 day round (sublingual B-12, multivitamin, something called Dual-Tox which is supposed to help flush the toxins that are released through the ketosis into your urine, and something they call power greens which you are supposed to take if your ketone strips get too dark, you count the scoop as 1fruit or veggie a day and its supposed help control your ph levels to avoid ketoacidosis).

The diet program listed in their booklet is also slightly different, it still calls for 500 calories, but allows for more fruit and veggie choices than talked about in Pounds & Inches. It also states that we should be getting 2 TBSP of MCT Oil (medium chain triglyceride oil) a day to help put us in ketosis and burn more fat, or it says we can substitute 2 tsp of coconut oil a day for the MCT oil.

I've already decided that I'm going to eat strictly according to Pounds & Inches. However, I was wondering what the collective opinions are concerning the supplements. I'm kinda thinking that they are there to justify the expense of the first timers kit (I already take a multi vitamin and occasionally get B12 injections). But I'm willing to try the MCT oil or coconut oil if it will help burn fat faster. I'm just concerned it might make me lose slower instead. Anyone do the HHCG with the addition of small amounts of MCT or coconut oil?

My doctor, who recommended I try the HHCG, has some patients that are on this specific HHCG & says his patients average the same weight loss as with the injections, but I'm not sure how many actually do what the Nu Medica booklet says and take all the recommended supplements or like me question everything and then just follow Pounds & Inches.

I know I'm probably over-thinking, but I'm only going to have time for 1 round before my fertility doc tries to knock me up again, so it really needs to count!

Also, I know from past experience being pregnant that I have a really hard time sleeping with HCG in my system. Anyone know if its ok to take small amounts of Tylenol PM (or just the plain Benedryl) or does this interfere with your losses?

Thanks for the help!

Courtney

[Victrola]

Courtney, I don't know about the oil supplementation. That's half your daily allotment of calories right there! My doctor had me on oils as well, until I started HCG, then we suspended it for the duration.

Oh, and I also take an OTC sleep med (which my doc also knows about) so it should be fine. As long as it's sugar free.

[Calli777]

Hi Courtney! I would stay away from the oils because of how Dr. S explains it in P&I. But the B vitamins I would say yes to. I have the B complex sublingual and I really do feel a difference on the days I do not take it. There is a "metabolizer" that I also got with my particular program which I take faithfully before breakfast and dinner. It contains potasium and herbs ... the potasium I believe is why I have never had a leg cramp while on protocol. The thing with some pills is this...they contain junk like starches and sugars! Sugar in my medicine It's nuts!

Just be careful and listen to your own body! You know whats best for it. There have been some unscrupulous places I have run across since starting my research that actually seem to give people just enough "wrong" info to lose at a much slower weight so they keep buying more product.

[metqa]

Originally Posted by cbarrett

Hey everyone,

DH and I are starting our first round 2mrw. I'm not really looking forward to the loading days, but I know they're essential to not being hungry later on.

I picked up our HHCG kits from my doctor's office on Friday and have a few questions for some of you experts.

We're using the HC3 trim kits made by NuMedica. In addition to the HHCG and the instruction booklet, there are several other supplements they want you to take during your 40 day round (sublingual B-12, multivitamin, something called Dual-Tox which is supposed to help flush the toxins that are released through the ketosis into your urine, and something they call power greens which you are supposed to take if your ketone strips get too dark, you count the scoop as 1fruit or veggie a day and its supposed help control your ph levels to avoid ketoacidosis).

The diet program listed in their booklet is also slightly different, it still calls for 500 calories, but allows for more fruit and veggie choices than talked about in Pounds & Inches. It also states that we should be getting 2 TBSP of MCT Oil (medium chain triglyceride oil) a day to help put us in ketosis and burn more fat, or it says we can substitute 2 tsp of coconut oil a day for the MCT oil.

I've already decided that I'm going to eat strictly according to Pounds & Inches. However, I was wondering what the collective opinions are concerning the supplements. I'm kinda thinking that they are there to justify the expense of the first timers kit (I already take a multi vitamin and occasionally get B12 injections). But I'm willing to try the MCT oil or coconut oil if it will help burn fat faster. I'm just concerned it might make me lose slower instead. Anyone do the HHCG with the addition of small amounts of MCT or coconut oil?

My doctor, who recommended I try the HHCG, has some patients that are on this specific HHCG & says his patients average the same weight loss as with the injections, but I'm not sure how many actually do what the Nu Medica booklet says and take all the recommended supplements or like me question everything and then just follow Pounds & Inches.

I know I'm probably over-thinking, but I'm only going to have time for 1 round before my fertility doc tries to knock me up again, so it really needs to count!

Also, I know from past experience being pregnant that I have a really hard time sleeping with HCG in my system. Anyone know if its ok to take small amounts of Tylenol PM (or just the plain Benedryl) or does this interfere with your losses?

Thanks for the help!

Courtney

Congratulations on deciding to start the plan.

Okay right to the point. My BS meter immediately started dinging at the description of the Greens to keep you from ketoacidosis. All I gotta say is that unless your pancrease just withered away and you can no longer make insulin, you are NOT going to go into ketoacidosis just by dieting. That's a load of bull they are selling in a bottle. That only occures when two conditions happen at the same time a:you stop being able to process glucose and as a result b: your body burns fat and protein to supply glucose.

Both glucose and ketones lower blood ph, but ketones are not damaging to blood vessels like glucose is, and the body has a way to dispose of excess ketones ( burning as fuel, breathing, urine, sweat). without insulin there is No way to dispose of excess glucose so it builds up and lowers blood PH to dangerous levels. It really should be called Acidosis with the presence of Ketones, cause it's the sugar that's the problem not the ketones

Back to reality. The greens may well be a nice supplement, but the claim is bogus. I'd hate to think I'd lose a whole days serving of veggies or fruit just for that. If your strips are too dark, drink more water. It's a lot cheaper.

MCT. Well, I totally love the idea of MCT, and coconut oil specifically, however while many people find great results with it, in my opinion, they are still calories and have to be considered. I tried using Coconut oil my last round and while my losses still happened they were actually kinda appalling, I didn't lose faster, I might have lost the same, but I definitely didn't lose as much as I hoped. The benefit I found to using it was that with the HCG appetite suppression, a teaspoon of coconut oil was an additional push when i did feel hungry and couldn't or didn't want to eat just yet. While it doesn't burn slow like fats, it still burns like carbohydrates and is used as fuel. Biz once said the 1st 4 T of coconut oil in P3 didn't count toward calories cause it is used by the immune system, but that particular fatty acid (lauric acid I believe)is only a portion of coconut oil and is completely absent in MCT oil ( it is removed in processing) so all the other fatty acids are being used as caloric energy.

If this is your first round, I'd hesitate to suggest the CO tweak the first time. just see how your body reacts to the Pounds and Inches plan and then you can see how your body handles it, and you can later compare any tweaks and changes to the first Control Run.

I don't think a sleeping aid/pain pill would hurt your losses but only take what you need when the situation arises, don't take it preemptively. Taking Pain medication when there is no pain or inflammation is actually harmful to the body, new studies have finally confirmed based on studying athletes who take pain medication in anticipation of pain/injury. Find a simple sleep aid like 5htp, melatonin, or some of those blue pills I can't remember the names of ...Somnex and other funny names!

Good Luck to You and Hubby!

Happy Loading!

[Calli777]

I wanted to make sure I completely understand something about an interruption....Ok, here is the dealio....DF's birthday party is on Sunday the 30th, for which I'm planning an interruption. If I take my last dosage on Wed, May 26th in the a.m. is it Saturday May 29th I start with P3 style eating? Can I use lotions or take fish oil during those P3 days or maybe hold off because it is such a short break. I plan to go back to P2 on Monday May 31st. I am also in desperate need of a spray tan...anybody try that on break yet?

I know on a normal P3 I can have things like avocados and burgers but is that OK for a small break as well?

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by wishbone

Question for the walden farms users....

I bought the blue cheese flavor. And no matter what I did to it...I can't eat it. So...I bought the ranch today. (I was craving some lettuce w/buffalo chicken on top). Well...I just can't get past that "twang" in there.

I poured a small amount in a bowl and added some different spices to it, and stirred it up. I had also tried this with the blu cheese (no luck there, LOL).
Well, I added some McCormick's perfect pinch stuff. It was garlic & herb and some of the chicken. It was OK, better.

Any suggestions on some "different" spices? What do you think would help?

The salad was pretty good regardless...broke up my piece of melba toast for some "croutons".


JAN

Originally Posted by AmyMacT

BTW, has anybody tried the rest of Walden Farms' products. I'm curious about the mayo and pasta sauces. I saw they even had caramel dip - would be good w/apples.

i have tried the BBq, ranch and thousand island will let you know about the others today because i have a 100$ order scheduled for delivery this afternoon!! I LIKED THE RANCH AND dh LIKED THE THOUSAND ISLAND THE bbq WAS A LITTLE ROUGH! SO WE ORDERED THE THICK AND HEARTY??? ONE THIS TIME TO TRY BUT I LIKE THE p2 RECIPE ONE SAN THE LIQUID SMoKE!
sorry about the casp lock my A finger is weak too!

down almost a full pound today(.8)!!! on Day 15 wowza!! just makes me mad thinking what i might have lost if i had had my head on straight!! Greedy i know so it is 296.8 today!! whoohoo 4 days in a row under 300 pounds!! think i should claim twoterville yet??

[debkeversole]

email about my miracle noodle order today thought someone else might find it useful too

You will be getting your noodles
very soon and I wanted to give
you basic instructions on how
to prepare the noodles.

1. Open the bag into a strainer or
colander.

2. Rinse actively 3-5 minutes and boil
lightly for 1 minute.

3. Hand dry the noodles with a paper
towel or regular bath towel until dry.

4. Add to finished sauce or dish and
that is it!!

Any retained moisture is referred to
in Japanese as aku or bitterness, so
drying the noodles is essential. There
is another way to dry the noodles
that also removes the translucency of the
noodles that is by dry-roasting them.
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The most common question we have received
after the above instructions is why not
cook with the noodles instead of adding them
at the end of the cooking process. The
reason is that the noodles change texture and
can become chewy if they are heated up too much.
So, remember for delectable, delicious noodles,
add them to your dish right before eating!!

Looking forward to getting to know you!!

Jill and the Miracle Noodle Team

Dry Roasting Shirataki to Eliminate Wetness and Aroma

We have received several emails about the best way to dry the noodles completely and hence
eliminate any unwanted odor completely.

In Japan this is done by dry-roasting the noodles. This process also ensures that the noodles will absorb
the flavor of what you will be adding!

1. Heat a non-stick skillet over high heat
2. Add the shirataki noodles and dry roast for
around 1 minute
3. When they are dry, you often hear a squeaking noise
as you move them
4. Drizzle a little oil or not, or add the stock or sauce you
are going to use with whatever recipes

That is it! We learned it ages ago from what we call our encyclopedia here at Miracle Noodle. If you haven't gotten a copy of Washoku Recipes From The Japanese Home Kitchen get your copy today from Amazon.

[Meek75]

Hi, just popping in to say hello to everyone.

Happy Loading, Losing, and Maintain, HCGers .

Meek