Simeon's protocol (HCG Diet) February 2010 THREAD

[jpollock]

So after lurking on this site for months, doing research and just plain procrastinating, I've finally placed my order for hcg drops and got a copy of the plan to start as soon as they get here. My husband and I really want to have baby number 2 but since my pregnancy was so hard last time (and just because of common sense) I REALLY need to lose a lot of weight before we can start.

Here's my stats

highschool weight 180
went on b/c before getting married and jumped to 260 in 8 months
down to 230 in 2008 after having my little girl
went back on b/c gained 40 lbs in 4 months...(stupid I know)
Maintaining at 270

Goal weight 160!
I haven't seen that number since middle school so I'll re-evaluate later.

Thanks to all who have answered my questions and offered support!
Jessica

[CandySanDiego]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Candy

You are just so awesome!!! How wonderful for you to see a number you never thought you would see!! Gives me hope for my next round!!!! After the Hhcg, I had no hunger either during those dreaded 48 hours! Also even at breakfast when I started P3!! Funny how that works out to be All you do in P2 is dream of all the cheese and eggs you can have in P3 and then once you get there, you don't want it!! Enjoy!!!

Thanks Dawn! Right back at ya! I'm thinking I may not have breakfast and just have my breakfast eggs with lunch. Like you, I'm usually not hungry in the morning and am good to lunch with just a cup of coffee. Even on P3 I can't really eat cheese - I'd love to have the cheesy omelets like everyone talks about but I know I just can't.

Looking forward to my Americano with steamed heavy cream though! Tomorrow is the day! Oh - and eating the skin of my chicken. It always seems so wasteful to throw that delicious goodness away when P2'ing!

I will however do as you say and ENJOY being in P3!

-C

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by jpollock

So after lurking on this site for months, doing research and just plain procrastinating, I've finally placed my order for hcg drops and got a copy of the plan to start as soon as they get here. My husband and I really want to have baby number 2 but since my pregnancy was so hard last time (and just because of common sense) I REALLY need to lose a lot of weight before we can start.

Here's my stats

highschool weight 180
went on b/c before getting married and jumped to 260 in 8 months
down to 230 in 2008 after having my little girl
went back on b/c gained 40 lbs in 4 months...(stupid I know)
Maintaining at 270

Goal weight 160!
I haven't seen that number since middle school so I'll re-evaluate later.

Thanks to all who have answered my questions and offered support!
Jessica

Congratulations on making the decision!!! My advice: Load well, load really well with no guilt at all!!!

[FitAtForty]

Tks Dawnyama- I to have been 100% on protocol and I did try the protein pancakes tonight- they were ok but very dry had to choke them down... After we got done eating I felt kinda guilty since I knew that are not on the original protocol and I've made sure so far I've been following everything to a T- so needless to say I will not be making them anymore while on P2- it feels like cheating and don't even want to go there so from now on it';s strictly protocol foods- no deviations.... will be interesting to see what the scale says tomorrow- for some reason I'm thinking a gain is in the picture?!?! oh well if it is- live n' learn I guess.... anyhow back on track as of now... good night to all....

[Bob1956]

[quote=CandySanDiego;13088343]
WooHoo on seeing a weight from your early twenties!! I'm joining you today on the VLCD/no-HCG days! Let us know how it goes with bootcamp. I spent a lot of time there during my last P3 and before it became a paid service. One thing to keep in mind ... their focus tends to be high fat and if you have trouble stabilizing they recommend trying raw. Neither of these worked for me. I cannot do high fat ... the cream cheese muffins are a sure fire way for me to gain lbs overnight ... others can eat 6 in a day and be OK. So, I guess what I'm saying is it's great for being accountable, seeing what works for others and getting advice from old pros BUT temper that will being intentional about your own body and your intuition about what is right for you.
Good luck with P3 ... I'll be right along side you as of Friday. Right here is where I am being accountable.
QUOTE]

Candy, your going to do a greta job, and I know all about those CC muffins. They taste killer, are killers if you don't be careful when eating them, believe me I know. I'm going to make some for SB sunday, for when everybody else is eatiing real desserts, me and DW will have something.

This is my 1st try at bootcamp, and I'll see how it go's. Sorry it didn't work for you, but it looks like you overcame it. Great job

Originally Posted by Bhambabe

Great job Bob ! you have worked hard being INTENTIONAL and it has paid off with a wonderful reward , I am happy for you .

Janeann

Janeann, thanks.

Originally Posted by CandySanDiego

Yesterday was VLCD #22 and officially my last day. Took my last drops at 9pm last night so this morning my LDW was 110 - exactly my goal (or should I say revised goal).

This is my first HHCG round so I just want to confirm on the 48hrs without drops. If I took my last drops at 9pm last night, that means I could theoretically have my first P3 meals on Thursday at 9pm - right? Since I don't usually eat after 7pm at night I guess my first P3 meal will be breakfast on Friday.

First day without drops has been fine. No real hunger at all - hope tomorrow is the same.

Now let's hope my body is happy to stabilize at 110-112. I am excited and nervous about P3 but I have printed out the ****** records of what I ate each day during my last successful P3 and plan to follow those. I have seen Dawn and others say every P3 is different but hopefully it works again.

Someone posted about TOM being early ... my last one arrived after just 18 days!!! TOM is all over the place for me when on HHCG. Once it was 45 days.

-C

Candy, 110 lbs. what more can I say, Great job.

Originally Posted by debkeversole

Morning everyone! and BOb! 179 whoohoo!!

Thanks, Deb

Originally Posted by klittle

Good morning all!! I'm down .7 today, finally the scale has started moving in the right direction again. Hopefully it will keep going now.

Have a great day!!!

Klittle, down is good, and .7 is above average for the ladies. All the losses add up.

Originally Posted by cleoland

Good Morning all. Lost .6 not bad. Have a good day everyone.

Good loss, Cleo.

Originally Posted by CandySanDiego

You'll do fine in P3 - you have the right INTENTIONAL attitude! The problem with bootcamp and their recommendation to eat very high fat is that they suggest eating things like avocados and coconut oil and these are both things that I am allergic too so eating them in large quantities was just a recipe for disaster. Their methodology works very well for lots of people so I'm sure it will work for you! Maybe mine was just a specific case of allergy/low tolerance for high fat. I'll be interested in your observations.

Thanks, if it doesn't look like it's working, I'll make my own adjustments. We'll see what happens.

Originally Posted by CandySanDiego

Today is day #2 of 48hrs - still no real hunger! Dropped 0.6 this morning to 109.4. If anyone had told me that I would ever weigh under 110 lbs I would have laughed at them! I know I probably won't stay here once I start eating P3 but seeing that number on the scale - even for a day - is a real trip!

Happy shedding or maintaining everyone!

-C

You better get those wind resistant suits like those speed skaters, Because if the wind gets a hold of you, it's off to OZ for you.

[deedeetv]

Question about doing more than one round of HCG...If you "stabilize" your weight after R1, do you have to do the whole P3 thing again the second time? The reason for my question is...I'm hoping to fit in another round of HCG/VLCD before my wedding/honeymoon. If I "interrupt" R2 after 23 days (rather than 40 as I'm doing now), and I eat sugars and starches for a week and then continue the course of HCG/VLCD, will I gain all the weight back?

I feel like I'm rambling. Someone please let me know if that didn't make any sense...

[Bob1956]

Good morning All. Today is R3P3D2, and my weight is 179 lbs., the same as yesterday. Good start I guess, we'll see after I go to Texas De Brazil tonight for dinner. I'm going to try and catch up a bit now, I've been a little busy with Mom this days. Everyone have a great and INTENTIONAL day.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Bob1956

Good morning All. Today is R3P3D2, and my weight is 179 lbs., the same as yesterday. Good start I guess, we'll see after I go to Texas De Brazil tonight for dinner. I'm going to try and catch up a bit now, I've been a little busy with Mom this days. Everyone have a great and INTENTIONAL day.

Oh, Bob!! That is fantastic news!!! Congratulations on getting into the 170s!!! Yahoo!!!!

[FitAtForty]

Good morning to all my Protocol Friends BUT more importantly Happy Friday!! Always my favorite day of the week.... well scale was friendly to me this morning down .6 so heck ya I'll take that- was kinda questioning how the protein pancakes I made last night would affect weigh in but guess not to bad but after thinking about it will leave those out till Ph3... I want to stick to protocol with no deviations so onward I go.... Hope everyone else is having a good day and here's to all the losers today!!
And to all the newbies hang tough and you will be successful if you stay intentional!! rock on all ~~~ ROCKIN'

[Aggie95]

Originally Posted by deedeetv

Question about doing more than one round of HCG...If you "stabilize" your weight after R1, do you have to do the whole P3 thing again the second time? The reason for my question is...I'm hoping to fit in another round of HCG/VLCD before my wedding/honeymoon. If I "interrupt" R2 after 23 days (rather than 40 as I'm doing now), and I eat sugars and starches for a week and then continue the course of HCG/VLCD, will I gain all the weight back?

I feel like I'm rambling. Someone please let me know if that didn't make any sense...

From Pounds and Inches:
Further CoursesPatients requiring the loss of more than 34 lbs. must have a second or even more courses. A second course
can be started after an interval of not less than six weeks, though the pause can be more than six
weeks. When a third, fourth or even fifth course is necessary, the interval between courses should be made
progressively longer. Between a second and third course eight weeks should elapse, between a third and fourth
course twelve weeks, between a fourth and fifth course twenty weeks and between a fifth and sixth course six
months. In this way it is possible to bring about a weight reduction of 100 lbs. and more if required without the
least hardship to the patient.
Hth.

[klittle]

Good morning everyone! Today is VLCD 20 I was down .2 this morning. I'm happy that it was a loss but a little frustrated that my losses seem to have really slowed!! In the last 7 days I have only lost 2.2. I have been 100% sticking to protocol. Is that normal in week 3? Is there anything I can do to get them to pick up again? I hate to think of doing this another 20 days (40 days total) and continuing to lose only 2.2 lbs per week. Any loss is good, I know, but at this rate, it will take me forever to reach my goal.

[FitAtForty]

klittle- I hear ya loud and clear- I too am on my 3rd week and have noticed the daily losses are very minimal- I know every bit counts but it can get discouraging after all the effort we all put in then to only have a small loss or none some days.... I to feel your pain.... I want to lose 30 lbs and am half way there and I plan on doing the 40 days and then hopefully will be close to goal and can then go to P3.... we shall see but no matter what we need to keep plugging away and it will come- I have faith !! hahaha

[deedeetv]

Originally Posted by Aggie95

From Pounds and Inches:
Further CoursesPatients requiring the loss of more than 34 lbs. must have a second or even more courses. A second course
can be started after an interval of not less than six weeks, though the pause can be more than six
weeks. When a third, fourth or even fifth course is necessary, the interval between courses should be made
progressively longer. Between a second and third course eight weeks should elapse, between a third and fourth
course twelve weeks, between a fourth and fifth course twenty weeks and between a fifth and sixth course six
months. In this way it is possible to bring about a weight reduction of 100 lbs. and more if required without the
least hardship to the patient.
Hth.

Jennifer,

Thanks for the response! My main question is...if I wait six weeks, start R2, but then interrupt it after 23 days or so, will I have to start p3 after that? What if I eat vacation food (i.e., starches and sugars) for a week on my honeymoon after the 23 days? Will I fail to stabilize and gain enormous amounts of weight? Basically, I'm wondering if it is best to NOT start R2 of HCG prior to my wedding in May because I won't have a chance to "stabilize" before the wedding/honeymoon trip.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by deedeetv

Jennifer,

Thanks for the response! My main question is...if I wait six weeks, start R2, but then interrupt it after 23 days or so, will I have to start p3 after that? What if I eat vacation food (i.e., starches and sugars) for a week on my honeymoon after the 23 days? Will I fail to stabilize and gain enormous amounts of weight? Basically, I'm wondering if it is best to NOT start R2 of HCG prior to my wedding in May because I won't have a chance to "stabilize" before the wedding/honeymoon trip.

If you eat "vacation food" as you call it you will gain your weight back. Sharon did not follow P3 and ate sugars and starches and had a heck of a time stabilizing. She actually didn't stabilize and had to start over again!! Lesson learned there!! If she had it to do all over again she would chose eating no sugar and starch for P3. I suggest you stick to protocol 100%. Dr Simeons did a lot of research and wrote it all out for us to follow. If we deviate at all we are doomed to fail--plain and simple. I suggest you search long and hard for what you ultimately want. A few days of good eating or a lifetime of stabilization??!! I vote for lifetime of stabilization, but that is me!!! Good luck!!!

[40winks]

I'm on VLCD-17 of Sublingual HCG, first round, and just popping in to stay focused and mention another cute little loss of .6 lb. How cool is that! Everyone KUTGW!

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by deedeetv

Jennifer,

Thanks for the response! My main question is...if I wait six weeks, start R2, but then interrupt it after 23 days or so, will I have to start p3 after that? What if I eat vacation food (i.e., starches and sugars) for a week on my honeymoon after the 23 days? Will I fail to stabilize and gain enormous amounts of weight? Basically, I'm wondering if it is best to NOT start R2 of HCG prior to my wedding in May because I won't have a chance to "stabilize" before the wedding/honeymoon trip.

Yes, you would fail to stabilize and gain the weight back. P3 is three weeks of no sugars/starches for your hypothalamus to reset. You'd be better off starting your second round after your honeymoon. Have a great time!

[Emmytheshiba]

Originally Posted by CandySanDiego

I do that too ... whenever I'm going to travel or a restaurant I check out the menus to see what I can eat. Planning definitely helps but you'll need some strong willpower to resist all the yummy tortilla chips with guac! Just have fun tho'.
WTG on shedding another pound and being sniffing distance from fresh territory!

Oh as long as I can have the guac I am a-okay staying away from the chips (and as long as I can have the tequila i'm a-okay without all that "sunrise." ). Jokes aside, I am so pumped, and there are yummy sounding things I can eat on the menus, plus I can always bring a couple baggies of almonds and other legal munchies

Originally Posted by jpollock

I've finally placed my order for hcg drops and got a copy of the plan to start as soon as they get here. My husband and I really want to have baby number 2 but I REALLY need to lose a lot of weight before we can start. Here's my stats
highschool weight 180
went on b/c before getting married and jumped to 260 in 8 months
down to 230 in 2008 after having my little girl
went back on b/c gained 40 lbs in 4 months...(stupid I know)
Maintaining at 270
Goal weight 160!
Thanks to all who have answered my questions and offered support!
Jessica

Lose a lot of weight? Fast? Yup, this sounds like the protocol for you! This board is a great place for questions/support, as you'll soon find out! Good luck getting started!

Down another 1.6 lbs this morning! It's like my weight loss has no idea that 1) I'm on my period and 2) it's week 3. By all means, DON'T TELL IT!
1 lb away from r1 ldw! All my catch up weight is practically gone and I feel teeny again!
Oh and today is a SNOW DAY!!!! Charlottesville is supposed to get twenty eight inches of snow this weekend so they canceled classes today and I slept in till 11:30! Bliss!!

[Aggie95]

Originally Posted by Gracie514

Yes, you would fail to stabilize and gain the weight back. P3 is three weeks of no sugars/starches for your hypothalamus to reset. You'd be better off starting your second round after your honeymoon. Have a great time!

Originally Posted by deedeetv

Jennifer,

Thanks for the response! My main question is...if I wait six weeks, start R2, but then interrupt it after 23 days or so, will I have to start p3 after that? What if I eat vacation food (i.e., starches and sugars) for a week on my honeymoon after the 23 days? Will I fail to stabilize and gain enormous amounts of weight? Basically, I'm wondering if it is best to NOT start R2 of HCG prior to my wedding in May because I won't have a chance to "stabilize" before the wedding/honeymoon trip.

I agree with Dawn and Gracie. You will do better to do a very clean P3/P4, try your very best to stabilize in that, and keep that weight. After Honeymoon, start R2. You'll also be saving that Rxhcg!

Originally Posted by Emmytheshiba

Oh as long as I can have the guac I am a-okay staying away from the chips (and as long as I can have the tequila i'm a-okay without all that "sunrise." ). Jokes aside, I am so pumped, and there are yummy sounding things I can eat on the menus, plus I can always bring a couple baggies of almonds and other legal munchies

Lose a lot of weight? Fast? Yup, this sounds like the protocol for you! This board is a great place for questions/support, as you'll soon find out! Good luck getting started!

Down another 1.6 lbs this morning! It's like my weight loss has no idea that 1) I'm on my period and 2) it's week 3. By all means, DON'T TELL IT!
1 lb away from r1 ldw! All my catch up weight is practically gone and I feel teeny again!
Oh and today is a SNOW DAY!!!! Charlottesville is supposed to get twenty eight inches of snow this weekend so they canceled classes today and I slept in till 11:30! Bliss!!

WTG Em!! You'll be below that ldw in no time. Get more rest and stay warm

[deedeetv]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

If you eat "vacation food" as you call it you will gain your weight back. Sharon did not follow P3 and ate sugars and starches and had a heck of a time stabilizing. She actually didn't stabilize and had to start over again!! Lesson learned there!! If she had it to do all over again she would chose eating no sugar and starch for P3. I suggest you stick to protocol 100%. Dr Simeons did a lot of research and wrote it all out for us to follow. If we deviate at all we are doomed to fail--plain and simple. I suggest you search long and hard for what you ultimately want. A few days of good eating or a lifetime of stabilization??!! I vote for lifetime of stabilization, but that is me!!! Good luck!!!

Thanks so much for the advice. I am very much leaning towards remaining on P3 for the wedding. You are right; it would be a waste to follow protocol for so long and then eat vacation food for a week...even if it is my first real vacation in 4 years!

[deedeetv]

Originally Posted by Gracie514

Yes, you would fail to stabilize and gain the weight back. P3 is three weeks of no sugars/starches for your hypothalamus to reset. You'd be better off starting your second round after your honeymoon. Have a great time!

Thanks for the response Gracie! I think I knew that deep down but I just needed a kick in the pants to get it through my head.

[Gracie514]

Originally Posted by deedeetv

Thanks for the response Gracie! I think I knew that deep down but I just needed a kick in the pants to get it through my head.

You're welcome! And I think it would be kind of easy to be in P3 for your honeymoon. Just order meats, veggies, seafood with lots of butter, fruits, etc. You just have to stay away from any desserts or breads. You could always buy some sugar-free candy to keep on hand. I did have a few drinks in P3 without any problem. I drank Michelob Ultra, I don't think there's much sugar (if any) in it. You'll be fine!

[carob]

Over salting dinner is a bad thing for my numbers! I'm up 1/2 lb today. Hopefully, lots of water will help my weigh-in tomorrow.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by deedeetv

Thanks so much for the advice. I am very much leaning towards remaining on P3 for the wedding. You are right; it would be a waste to follow protocol for so long and then eat vacation food for a week...even if it is my first real vacation in 4 years!

Remember vacation is for good times, not an entitlement to gorge yourself!! Save the gorging for loading days!! Even if it is the first real vacation in 4 years. You deserve a good time, not a time when you feel guilty every time you eat or indulge in things you should not be having. Like Gracie suggested.....there are many good things to enjoy while in P3. Like butter!!! Just concentrate on what you can have and that new hot bod you will be walking around in!!!!

[CandySanDiego]

Originally Posted by Emmytheshiba

Oh as long as I can have the guac I am a-okay staying away from the chips (and as long as I can have the tequila i'm a-okay without all that "sunrise." ). Jokes aside, I am so pumped, and there are yummy sounding things I can eat on the menus, plus I can always bring a couple baggies of almonds and other legal munchies

Down another 1.6 lbs this morning! It's like my weight loss has no idea that 1) I'm on my period and 2) it's week 3. By all means, DON'T TELL IT!
1 lb away from r1 ldw! All my catch up weight is practically gone and I feel teeny again!
Oh and today is a SNOW DAY!!!! Charlottesville is supposed to get twenty eight inches of snow this weekend so they canceled classes today and I slept in till 11:30! Bliss!!

I LOVE guac too - was really bummed to find out I am allergic to avocado. Dipped yummy shrimp in my guac last time in Mx.

Just another day or two and you'll have that R1 LDW under your belt! Nice drop today! I usually have a nice dip once TOM arrives & this round I had nice losses in week 3. As the ol' timers say - every round is different.

Have a great weekend! All that snow sounds like good DVD, couch & warm coffee weather.

We're hoping for some snow in the local mountains so we can drive up on Sunday and let my girl get her snowplay on.

-C

[CandySanDiego]

109.4 ... second day in a row. I hardly ever see the same weight two days in a row. At least I got to enjoy the sub-110 number for one more day. Started P3 today with HWC in morning coffee and immediately got all phlegmy! I haven't wanted to admit it but I think my cow's milk issue does actually extend to cream too. I hate that I'm allergic/sensitive to soooo many foods.

Anyhoo ... still no real hunger today. No breakfast, strength training at 11am and then lunch at 12:30pm. Chicken with the skin fried in Ghee and usual P2 salad of spinach, apple pieces & ACV. Finished with 1/2 cup of full fat cottage cheese sprinkled with cinnamon.

Dinner tonight is beef roast with mushrooms & mushroom gravy that's cooking in the crockpot now - yummy!

Last P3 I logged religiously in ****** but I'm so unmotivated to do it again. Wonder if I can wing it (not totally flying blind though 'cos I have logs from last time to work to). More worried about under-eating that overeating but maybe if I just make sure I double my protein, have an egg or two etc it'll be OK. Guess it'll be interesting to see what the scale does tomorrow.

Happy weekend all you big losers! OK - so it's not original but still funny!

-C

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by CandySanDiego

109.4 ... second day in a row. I hardly ever see the same weight two days in a row. At least I got to enjoy the sub-110 number for one more day. Started P3 today with HWC in morning coffee and immediately got all phlegmy! I haven't wanted to admit it but I think my cow's milk issue does actually extend to cream too. I hate that I'm allergic/sensitive to soooo many foods.

Anyhoo ... still no real hunger today. No breakfast, strength training at 11am and then lunch at 12:30pm. Chicken with the skin fried in Ghee and usual P2 salad of spinach, apple pieces & ACV. Finished with 1/2 cup of full fat cottage cheese sprinkled with cinnamon.

Dinner tonight is beef roast with mushrooms & mushroom gravy that's cooking in the crockpot now - yummy!

Last P3 I logged religiously in ****** but I'm so unmotivated to do it again. Wonder if I can wing it (not totally flying blind though 'cos I have logs from last time to work to). More worried about under-eating that overeating but maybe if I just make sure I double my protein, have an egg or two etc it'll be OK. Guess it'll be interesting to see what the scale does tomorrow.

Happy weekend all you big losers! OK - so it's not original but still funny!

-C

i can't even imagine 109!! i think i weighed that when i was born! Congratulations!!

[CandySanDiego]

Originally Posted by debkeversole

i can't even imagine 109!! i think i weighed that when i was born! Congratulations!!

Thanks Deb!

I couldn't imagine it either but here I am! Might not stabilize here but it's not the actual number I'm too concerned about. You may not be able to imagine where you will end up after you're done with your rounds but before you know it you'll be there!

-C

[wmac]

Candy....great job! I think I might have to try your spinach p2 salad.

[wmac]

So what is on everyones Superbowl menu?

[debkeversole]

Howdy all happy Saturday!! everyone in the path of the winter storm i pray you all are safe and warm!