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Old 07-23-2013, 07:50 PM   #1
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Why can't I sleep?

Is insomnia a side effect of ketosis?
If so, does it pass once one is keto-adapted?

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Old 07-23-2013, 07:56 PM   #2
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Are you having a hard time falling asleep, or staying asleep?
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:05 PM   #3
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Falling asleep. I almost feel wound, like I've had too much caffeine. Not jittery, not energetic physically, but extra stimulated physiologically if that makes any sense?!
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:28 PM   #4
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I am having similar issues. I have never had a problem falling asleep in fact I would fall asleep sitting at my computer after dinner. I also have sleep apnea and use a cpap.

Lately, I have been having trouble falling asleep and sometimes even wake and can't fall back to sleep. I am thinking I am not in a carb coma anymore and actually am acting like a normal person.
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:33 PM   #5
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@Mom2AandE: yep, I used to do the nod in the afternoon and after supper like a heroin addict
I'm glad that's gone but it would be nice to be able to get some sleep! (I'm not at the point where I need less sleep, so I take hours to get sleepy and then I sleep later.
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:46 PM   #6
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I find that benedryl helps. I have had problems with insomnia my whole life, especially when it's warm out... so I don't know how ketosis makes it better/worse... but I know that benedryl helps. My doctor approves.
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:47 PM   #7
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I am having insomnia now actually! And for me usually it's that I fall asleep for 2 hours then wake up and can't fall back to sleep, but I think ketosis does give me more energy and if i don't workout hard in the evening, I have too much energy and my brain is too awake!
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:52 PM   #8
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I can't sleep either....... combination of this diet ? and my work hours........ good luck guys - nothing I take works
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:05 PM   #9
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I can't sleep either....... combination of this diet ? and my work hours........ good luck guys - nothing I take works
that sucks! I used to take ambien, but it made me try to beat up my bf in the middle of the night!
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:14 PM   #10
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I have sleeping pills, but not a huge fan of them. I usually take max dose of antihistamine , either benedryl or hydroxyzine but they are not always successful. Then, by the time I get really desperate, it's too late for sleeping pills as I have 2 kiddos...
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:19 PM   #11
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Ok just took some zope. Hope that will have me Zzzzzzzing
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:00 AM   #12
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Yep same thing here - used to fall asleep at a drop of a hat but now on LC I feel tired but can't fall asleep - on the bright side I'm getting a lot of things done and burning calories too
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:11 AM   #13
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I started taking a 400 mg liquid magnesium gell cap and a potassium pill at bedtime along with my calcium and I have been sleeping better. I was waking up after 2 hours of sleep and not able to fall back to sleep.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:08 AM   #14
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Mainstream answers---
caffeine, nicotine, alcohol. poor sleep hygeine. stress.

Nutritinal Supplement-
-250 mg magnesium, some people have to take doses midmorning, midafternoon, and evening. Other can get by on afternoon and evening doses.
-5 HTTP works for some. Take it in the evening. Melatonin works for some.
-time your dinner so that you aren't all the way empty at night. Or have a non-carb snack a little while after dinner, like a dill pickle with a piece of meat, or a piece of cheese. Tryptophan is sleep-inducing, so a cup of herbal tea with cream or a slice of home-cooked turkey could be a great choice.

From a sleep-disordered person's perspective:
-limit computer time after dinner. The screen's brightness whacks me out.
-I'm experimenting with taking 5000 IU D3 and purposefully going out in the afternoon for sunlight.
-If you can't sleep, read a book---don't watch tv or use the computer.
-Don't force sleep. Get up out of bed and sit quietly and read, or meditate or just think nice thoughts. Don't watch tv in bed. Bed is for sleeping.
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I also have trouble, fell asleep at midnight and woke up at 4:45 am
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:18 AM   #16
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I also have trouble, fell asleep at midnight and woke up at 4:45 am
Yeah, try that for 10 years. Not fun.
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Dim your lights and try to stay in the dark near dark as much as you can at least 3 hours before bed . This is along the same lines as what Emel said.
I used to fall asleep hard where I fell asleep where I was, apparently without warning from exhaustion stress hormones being high. With this new routine I yawn ,feel sleepy and fall asleep gently. If I had to guess I would say that the lack of lights stimulates me to produce more melatonin.I am up from 6 which often were 4+2 nights to 9 hours sleep straight.

I also put an e book some days back in recommended reading that may help as well
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Calm Magnesium taken along with melatonin works like a charm for my family. My DD had horrible insomnia from a tick borne illness for about two years and this is the only combo that has worked for her. I love it as well.
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Hmm. I've never known that magnesium makes people sleepy. In the past day or two, I've heard it a lot! Would any magnesium supp work?

TMI alert: I'm sometimes on narcotics and as such, proactively take a shot glass of Milk of Magnesia every other evening.

Melatonin works like a charm for my ds who has ASD and chronic sleep probs. I will try it tonight
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Magnesium does me wonders for sleep as well.
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Yep. Melatonin and magnesium before bed. I'm out like a light.
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Magnesium was crucial for starting to heal my eating disorder---Night Eating Syndrome. I never could sleep without giving in to my sugar/carb addiction. It wasn't food---it was a drug.

After I learned about magnesium and how to time the dosages for me, it was like a switch-- 3 days later I was 'cured' (not really, but it only took that long to sleep more nights than not without needing my carb drug.) I also used L-glutamine, a good multi, and a couple more nutritinal support things.

ETA Natalia, with some forms of magnesium, you won't need the milk of magnesia, if you know what I mean.
I don't want to recommend a form because the one best for me really seems to give folks bathroom issues.

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I used to have this same problem-when I went low carb I would feel jittery and anxious all day, and I could not sleep at night. I would usually last about three months
Bf I went high carb again. I don't know if what worked for me will work for you, but here is what I did: 1: got rid of wheat. Even trace amounts. And yes, this includes beer. 2: went higher carb for a few months, getting most of my carbs from veggies and low glycemic fruit. I did this for a few months, maybe three? I was compleatly grain and legume free, and eating about sixty total carbs a day. I only lost ten lbs this whole time, but I let my body get used to low carb gradually. I eventually lowered my carbs to 15 total a day (you may not want to go that low) but I ate six to eight small meals a day, so I wouldn't have blood sugar fluctuations. I think that might be what causes the anxiety. Right now, I'm fine: I don't have cravings or anxiety and I've been on plan for almost six months.

I'm sorry I've been so long winded, and I can't pin down exactly what I did that worked, but I think the key factors were getting rid of wheat and a higher carb aclamation period. Good luck with everything!
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:03 AM   #24
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Hi Jackie, I am already grain and wheat free for over a month. My carbs are about 1% of my menu. I don't even eat trace gluten. So, I don't think that's it
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I have been having trouble sleeping too! It just started recently. Last night I was still up at 3am. I can not keep doing this. The school year is getting ready to start and I need to be able to get up with my kids.

I'm sleepy, but when I get in bed I just can't fall asleep.

I too am grain and wheat free and I drink no caffeine, do not drink and do not smoke.

I will be by a health food store today and will pick up some melatonin. Should you take magnesium with it or should it be fine on its own?
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:20 AM   #26
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Maybe start with just the melatonin. It hits some people hard.

Melatonin is everywhere now, you can find it at any drigstore or grocery store.
The sublingual is best. It just sits under the vein in your tongue for a minute until it absorbs .
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Thanks for the info, Natalia!

I'm so tired right now from not getting enough sleep!
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Since getting my blood sugar under control, I've gone from waking every 1-2 hours (and taking 5-30 minutes to get back to sleep) to sleeping for 5-6 hours without waking. Until I started this egg fast. Last night and the night before were very restless. I think it's the deeper ketosis.
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Last night I had major insomnia. It took a couple of hours to fall asleep and then I was awakened several times and had a hard time falling back to sleep. I have never had problems like this. I have never had to take a sleep aid. Thankfully I see my doctor next week and I will discuss it with her.
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I bought some melatonin today. Can't wait to give it a try! I sometimes have trouble falling asleep, but nothing like the past few days have been. I have drastically changed my diet over the past month, but I don't know if that's the culprit or not.
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