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Old 11-29-2012, 09:46 PM   #1
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migrating joint & muscle pain

I've been recovering from hypothyroidism/adrenal fatigue... taking treatment for both, getting things regulated, feeling better. But...
Yesterday when I went cross country skiing, my groin had a stabbing pain...However, its not injured. Later it felt like I had carpel tunnel again & groin was fine. Today the back of my arms & calf muscles... so, I'm getting migrating joint & muscle pain again. I was also extremely tired today & needed a nap this afternoon, which hasn't happened to me in a long time. It's so weird. Just hard to figure out which thing is causing it & how to treat it. Both Thyroid & adrenal fatigue can have that symptom.

So, any of you experience migrating joint & muscle pain?
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:23 AM   #2
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I have. It has come and gone over the years. I have Hashi's hypothyroidism and some other autoimmune issues and chalk it up to that. In general I have lots less consistent joint pain since I stopped eating gluten and dairy, grains in general.

LOL, people really must have thought I was a hypochoncriac when I'd comment I've got a pain in my arm, later on...oh, now I have a pain in my buttock and all down my leg, oh all my joints hurt, etc. Don't hug so hard, don't lean on me I feel like you're bruising me......

Not really making light of it though. It was hard, and is hard to hurt a lot all over, feel like you're 20-30 years older than you are, etc. I hope it gets better for you soon. You may need further thyroid/adrenal med adjustment, or it could be food intolerance too.
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Thanks,
I too, am off of all gluten, dairy, eggs, most grains, sweeteners, etc. I was doing so well, its just weird for it to flare up. Possibly the "painting" that went on at work this week, although it didn't give me the usual headache. I had my blood tested for TSH this week, which doesn't mean much, but Dr was going to call me if it was off. Not scheduled to see Naturopath till next month for adrenals.
What defines Hashi's ?
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Hashi's is defined by thyroid antibodies, which I imagine your Dr. tested you for. They are not always present during a test though, even when you have the Hashi's. It generally means you will always have to be on thyroid hormone because your body cannot make it anymore, or at least not enough of it.

I don't do well with certain chemical smells either, like paint and detergents. I think that has an autoimmune connection too. My immune system seems to be in overdrive.
The good thing about it is that I seldom get respiratory illness, viruses, etc. and even when I do my case is not as bad as others'.

I hope you feel better soon. Will have to check out your "Maintaining Mutterings" now.
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Thanks girondet, I have been trying to figure out Hashi's. Don't think I've been tested for it though.

So your antibodies are in overdrive from Hashi's? That's kind of cool? I had a hard time getting well when I caught colds & was hypo (before I knew I was).

Am feeling somewhat better, will be seeing the Dr. Monday & find out what's going on. Could be either way (hypo or hyper).
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I think my immune system is in overdrive in general. I have autoantibodies besides the thyroid ones...ones that lead to type 1 diabetes, the autoimmune kind.....I also have a sister who has several autoimmune conditions. I believe we are prone to this, gene-wise, plus we have had some sort of environmental trigger to start it off. Maybe gluten. I found evidence, scientific evidence recently that tests in the UK showed that the type antibodies I have (GAD 65) do back off with not consuming gluten.


Anyway, that's my story and I'm stickin' to itI don't track the thyroid antibodies. Just the GAD ones. My tracking is on my own, as my Dr. thinks
you can't do anything about autoimmune diseases so why worry about it? I want to avoid any further autoimmune issues as well as manage what I have to the best of my ability.

Low carb and paleo type eating have helped me feel much, much better than I used to. I feel decades younger. Plus I am 60lbs. lighter than I was in my 50's. I wish I'd known earlier, as I say in my signature line. Lol.

When I was first diagnosed with hypothyroidism I too was tired, lethargic, under the weather all the time and caught everything and took a long time to get over it, even without the worst case of whatever it was. You'll feel better I think once you get your thyroid treatment optimised.
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I think my immune system is in overdrive in general. I have autoantibodies besides the thyroid ones...ones that lead to type 1 diabetes, the autoimmune kind.....I also have a sister who has several autoimmune conditions. I believe we are prone to this, gene-wise, plus we have had some sort of environmental trigger to start it off. Maybe gluten. I found evidence, scientific evidence recently that tests in the UK showed that the type antibodies I have (GAD 65) do back off with not consuming gluten.
Anyway, that's my story and I'm stickin' to itI don't track the thyroid antibodies. Just the GAD ones. My tracking is on my own, as my Dr. thinks
you can't do anything about autoimmune diseases so why worry about it? I want to avoid any further autoimmune issues as well as manage what I have to the best of my ability.

Low carb and paleo type eating have helped me feel much, much better than I used to. I feel decades younger. Plus I am 60lbs. lighter than I was in my 50's. I wish I'd known earlier, as I say in my signature line. Lol.

When I was first diagnosed with hypothyroidism I too was tired, lethargic, under the weather all the time and caught everything and took a long time to get over it, even without the worst case of whatever it was. You'll feel better I think once you get your thyroid treatment optimised.
Cool, I also do low carb with coconut oil added. I'm also happy to have discovered this way of eating. Good for you!

How long did it take to get your thyroid treatment optimized? I've heard it takes a year.

Today I went cross-country-skiing again and the pain didn't return. Snow is now 18 inches deep... such a good work-out! Half an hour of that & Shelby's just getting warmed up! I, however am huffing, puffing & sweating!

I am feeling quite a bit better this afternoon & evening than I have in days. Had a few heart palpitations, but not many.
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Hi Debby, I don't know how long it took to get my thyroid optimized, as it has been so long ago, about 17 years I think..since I started on thyroid hormone. It seems though that I went to 100 mcg of levothyroxine fairly quickly and that's where I've been ever since. No changes. I never questioned anything about it all back then, just accepted that it was probably a hereditary thing. Both my younger sisters had already been diagnosed with it. I never knew how much of my symptoms to attribute to thyroid problems or menopause. I went through the latter very early...in my early 40's...which I've read can happen with hypothyroidism by the way.

My joint aches and pains and fatigue didn't go away until a couple of years ago when I gave up grains on low carb. I feel great except for some pains in my hand joints that I believe to be diet related too, and I probably should try some more eliminations after Christmas. Eggs? Caffeine? Nightshades? Nuts and seeds? Who knows?

So fun, not being able to eat like everyone else. Nevertheless, feeling good and being trim are worth it, of course.

I'm glad you're feeling better. The heart palpitations can be associated with thyroid. I had them some in the past, but it has been a long while. I drank lots more caffeine then too. You might want to run it by your Dr.
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Thought I might add

Your migrating pain could be due to fibromyalgia or low Vit. D.
I had pains and still do all over my body. I'm also type 2 diabetic.
I finally went to specialist for arthritis and they said I have fibro and also
low vit. D.
You might check this out.
Just a suggestion.
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Hi,
Sorry, I lost track of this thread.
My blood test proved that my condition had gone into hyperthyroid. As soon as I lowered my meds the pain disappeared and did not return. My temperature was actually normal yesterday too, so I'm in hopes that things are optimized now.
I have kept it very close to that dose through-out the month, and feel that this is the right dose for me now. I get my blood tested tomorrow, so will see what the TSH says. Also getting vit D tested.
I quit gluten months ago. Just started eating quinoa this week. Its yummy! I think I'm going to drop "corn totillas" from my diet too, once I finish the ones in my freezer. What they do to corn now-days is scarey!
justjo I hope you've found relief from your fibro! Is there anything they can do to help with that?
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