► Arthritis/Bursitis relief diet - works with low carb - goodbye pain!!!

[kimlou]

So glad you shared this info.

I started Zumba about a year ago. After 3 months on the avg of 4 days a week. Within 4 months of it my right hip showed Bursitis... Horrible pain. Had to give up the Zumda, which I loved. After a few months of meds and no Zumba . Nothing helped much.
My Rheum Dr gave me a Cortisone shot a couple months ago. Helped for 3 weeks then the pain has started back. Now if veturing to the left hip.
My fibro has worsened and for the first time the other day when I got out of my car after a 30 minute drive to go in a store. I was asked are you ok have you had an accident. I was horrifierd.... Now people are noticing....
I am going to get back on my LC track and try the info in post #1.. thanks for the info

Bobby... The diet you are advising others on ... I would love to see it ... you can PM it to me if you like.

Again thanks .......

[Bobby_Boomer]

Wizzu, the way I understand it is the high glycemic index foods bring on a surge of insulin. The insulin is inflammatory.

All the proof I need is in my hip. Before the diet I couldn't walk 2 blocks without sitting down -- I couldn't drive the car without sitting on an ice pack.

Now the pain is just a dim memory.

Bobby

[Bobby_Boomer]

Originally Posted by kimlou

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Bobby... The diet you are advising others on ... I would love to see it<...>

First post on this thread.

BTW, I also no longer take glucosamine, SAMe, MSM, NSAIDs and a half dozen other arthritis "cures" with the exception of curcumin which I take for other reasons. I also never rub DMSO, Emu oil, and other pain relievers. My "Blue Ice" packs no longer go under my hip so that I can keep my foot on the gas pedal of the car. It works better for me than all of the above combined.

Simple elimination of those foods took me from extreme pain to pain free. It worked for my neighbor and a woman we are friendly with at a grocery store that we shop at weekly. I suspect it would work for a lot of others.

IMHO if you can cure something with diet, it's better than taking drugs and/or supplements. YMMV.

Bobby

[kimlou]

Originally Posted by Bobby_Boomer

Wizzu, the way I understand it is the high glycemic index foods bring on a surge of insulin. The insulin is inflammatory.

All the proof I need is in my hip. Before the diet I couldn't walk 2 blocks without sitting down -- I couldn't drive the car without sitting on an ice pack.

Now the pain is just a dim memory.

Bobby

That is just AWESOME !!!!! Taking your advise ! Thanks

[Kathryn D]

Bobby Boomer:

I, too, have pretty bad arthritis, and have been eating LC for the
past 4 years. I'm thinking I might have to try eliminating egg yolks
as I have eggs pretty much every morning. Question: what about
pork? Is it considered a red meat? What about bacon, i.e. pork
fat? Is it as bad as beef for inflammation?

Thanks,
Kathy

[Bobby_Boomer]

I keep the pork fat to a minimum myself, because I don't know the answer myself. Is pork red meat or not? I get conflicting answers when I research this.

I eat bacon, and/or pork sausage, but not more than once per week.

I trim the fat off pork chops.

I eat lean beef with no problem at all.

Bobby

[Kathryn D]

Thanks for the response, Bobby. Will take your advice to heart. Wish there was a more definite answer on whether pork is "red meat", or not, but in
the meantime better to play it safe.

Kathy

[Bobby_Boomer]

And don't forget to look for hidden eggs. My DW ate a meal with a lot of mayonnaise and her injured/arthritic finger swelled up and took a couple of weeks back on the diet to quit hurting again.

Bobby.

[Kathryn D]

Bobby,

Thanks for the heads up re mayo! I will remember that. One more
question.......if we're supposed to stay away from the fat of red meats,
what about fats like butter, cheese, and heavy cream? Do you consume
them at all? And if not, what fats do you use?

Thanks,

Kathy

[Bobby_Boomer]

I eat dairy daily and it doesn't bother me. A little romano and cheddar cheese on my salad, and sometimes cheese in my meal. But there is arachidonic acid in dairy so I try to keep it to a reasonable amount YMMV.

I also put a little sugar free/low fat ice cream (like Breyer's Carb Smart) in a whey protein shake every day (less than 1/4 cup). I use it as a meal replacement, and often "instant" breakfast [whey protein, vanilla LC ice cream, bit of stevia, touch of vanilla extract, and some added ingredients to "spice" it up like other extracts (hazelnut, coconut, etc.), bit of nut butter, unsweetened cocoa nibs, or whatever].

You might want to minimize or eliminate the dairy at first and then reintroduce it later to see what effect it has on you. Same for the nightshades - from what I understand some can eat tomatoes with no problem and others eat just a little and it triggers an inflammation response.

I also eat mostly olive oil and coconut oil, plus a little butter and I take fish oil capsules twice daily to get omega 3 fat in my body.

When eating beef, I trim the fat and eat grass-fed organic whenever I can because it is healthier and much higher in omega 3 fats.

I'm happy to be able to walk until I am dog tired without even noticing I have a hip (I often do a mile and a half on an elliptical trainer), and to be able to type on this laptop pain free.

I did it with trial and error on my own body, after the pain went away, seeing what brought it back and what didn't. And I keep the arachidonic acid to a minimum. I found I can eat a little dairy, but zero egg yolks and sadly, no tomato sauce (and I'm Italian-American).

Bobby

[Kathryn D]

Bobby,

Thanks for answering all my questions about dairy products! I'm glad
you haven't cut them out. Don't know what I'd do without cream
in my morning coffee :-) It probably wouldn't hurt for me to go off
of dairy completely for a while, as you suggest, in case I'm sensitive.
I know I AM bothered by tomatoes, terribly. We have that one in
common!!

I do use lots of olive oil and coconut oil, but haven't been taking
Omega-3s, which I know would help. I'll put that on my to-buy list.

Hey, I'd love to be able to walk until I'm dog-tired. Right now my
knees bother me too much. So I need to get my diet streamlined
and will hope for the best. You did say that it might take a couple
months to notice improvement, didn't you?

Do you take any vit D3?

So glad you started this thread, Bobby! Thanks again!

Kathy

[Bobby_Boomer]

I take D3 daily and a multi-vitamin. I believe that modern farming methods have depleted much of the vitamins in our food. I also believe that the fact that we can not expose ourselves to the natural form of D (sunlight) I should supplement with that vitamin. I've read a lot about it and it seems the prudent thing to do.

Fish-oil isn't expensive, and it's benefits are substantiated. Even the stubborn (or cautious depending on your point of view) FDA admits it.

I never cut out the cream in my cup of tea in the morning.

I started noticing the difference in a couple of weeks. But I'm not sure if it was wishful thinking or not.

By a couple of months, I was sure that I was much better. I'm not sure how many months it took for the pain to be all gone, as that was back in 2005 or 2006, but I was amazed at how quickly I returned to normal.

BTW, I had a 'trick knee' that pained me a little when walking up stairs. Sometimes I'd push my hand on my thigh to help, but it was never major. It's been so long that until you mentioned yours, I completely forgot about it.

I would have started this thread sooner, but it didn't come to mind until my neighbor started walking with a cane. And then I waited until she improved before posting it.

Arthritis is a disease of inflammation. I've read where heart, cancer and many other diseases of old age are either caused by or worsened by inflammation. So I figure if I can get the inflammation down with diet, which I have done, not only will it help the arthritis/bursitis, but it will lessen my chances of getting one of those other dreaded diseases. And the only side effect is mental, I do miss eggs (but they aren't worth it).

Bobby

[Kathryn D]

Bobby,

Thanks for all your good advice. Now it's my turn to put everything
into practice. Will keep you posted!

Kathy

[Bobby_Boomer]

I hope it works for you as well as it did for me, my DW, and my neighbor. It's great to be pain free.

Bobby

[leisha]

Thanks for this Bobby! I swear it's the tomatoes and peppers so fresh and readily available right now that is killing us.....yes, us!! Several people where I work are all having "hip pain". We were thinking it was some kind of weird virus or something but I truly believe it's the summer garden produce we all have so much of right now! I'm cutting it all out starting right now and will see what happens. Trying to sleep is getting miserable!

[Bobby_Boomer]

My neighbor who was doing so well decided she couldn't give up "her" tomatoes, peppers, and pasta and is now walking with a cane again.

It's sad that some people let their drives overtake their intellect.

I've been off the stuff following the anti-arthritis, anti-bursitis diet for a few years now, and am completely pain free. Considering the fact that I couldn't walk 2 blocks without having to sit down, it's nothing short of a miracle.

And I'm not taking any drugs with nasty side effects and I am no longer thinking I might be a candidate for invasive and dangerous hip replacement surgery.

I'm also no longer taking Glucosamine, MSM, SAMe and the other supplements.

Give it a few weeks on the diet. Be sure to follow the rest of the diet too. I think it took less than a month for me to start feeling better, but it was so long ago I don't remember for sure.

And at my yearly physical/blood test, absolutely everything is in the normal range, cholesterol, CRP, and so on. I'm not getting my money's worth out of medicare (and that's a good thing), I'm on no prescriptions, and in perfect health. But good health is priceless. When you are ill, nothing else matters.

Bobby

[dawnyama]

Fantastic report Bobby Yay you

[leisha]

Thanks for posting Bobby! That is so encouraging to me to see how well you've done. I'm 52 years old and I'm starting to feel like I'm 80! I'm sticking with it!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by leisha

Thanks for posting Bobby! That is so encouraging to me to see how well you've done. I'm 52 years old and I'm starting to feel like I'm 80! I'm sticking with it!

Isn't it crazy??? Because if you go to the doctor and tell them your issues, the old "well you ARE getting older" pops first into their heads Seriously aging does NOT have to mean crippling. I feel for those that are going around blindly....one of them being my mom. I cannot get it through her head though. As much as she sees me doing my low carb thing she just doesn't think it is healthy. But yeah, healthy for her to be on 16 pills a day and still complaining about aches and pains because her doctor gave them to her.

[Bobby_Boomer]

The for-profit medical system in the USA sees us as customers, not patients. They don't want to cure us, they want to treat us (read: sell us products, the more the better). So a medical salesman (read: doctor) will rather put you on 16 prescriptions than have you change your eating habits, because your eating habit change does not pay for the Porsche. And the drug companies reward the doctors for selling you lots of drugs. They get vacations, expensive gifts, and even cash incentives.

Plus, over 10,000 people each year in the USA die from medical mistakes. Not the disease they went in to treat, but out and out mistakes (per The American Academy Of Anti-Aging Medicine).

So as far as I'm concerned, doctors are a last resort. First, I'll try to fix it myself. If it means dietary change, that's better than drugs. There are no unwanted side-effects from a healthy diet change. There can be plenty of unwanted side-effects from most drugs. Read the cautions.

So if you go on the anti-arthritis/anti-bursitis diet, stick with it. You are already low-carb (low glycemic) so the first hurdle is done. Follow the rest and you will be rewarded with better health.

It's a general anti-inflammatory diet, so it will also lower your chances of getting all the other diseases that are caused by inflammation.

Bobby

[leisha]

Originally Posted by Bobby_Boomer

The for-profit medical system in the USA sees us as customers, not patients. They don't want to cure us, they want to treat us (read: sell us products, the more the better). So a medical salesman (read: doctor) will rather put you on 16 prescriptions than have you change your eating habits, because your eating habit change does not pay for the Porsche. And the drug companies reward the doctors for selling you lots of drugs. They get vacations, expensive gifts, and even cash incentives.

Plus, over 10,000 people each year in the USA die from medical mistakes. Not the disease they went in to treat, but out and out mistakes (per The American Academy Of Anti-Aging Medicine).

So as far as I'm concerned, doctors are a last resort. First, I'll try to fix it myself. If it means dietary change, that's better than drugs. There are no unwanted side-effects from a healthy diet change. There can be plenty of unwanted side-effects from most drugs. Read the cautions.

So if you go on the anti-arthritis/anti-bursitis diet, stick with it. You are already low-carb (low glycemic) so the first hurdle is done. Follow the rest and you will be rewarded with better health.

It's a general anti-inflammatory diet, so it will also lower your chances of getting all the other diseases that are caused by inflammation.

Bobby

That is so true! I've always looked to food to fix the problem. I have a book at home for food remedies and I can't remember the name of it but I constantly go to it for most things, leg cramps, high blood pressure, etc. I do know that some foods fix and some foods cause the problems. Just being disiplined enough to leave off and add in the right things is the key!

My husband thinks I'm crazy but I swear my hip is better because I quit eating the tomatoes and peppers and it's only been a week! I was so stiff and sore and achy and hurting and it's just about all gone! Could it have possibly had an effect that fast? I was eating so many banana peppers and tomatoes! They still look so good to me .....but not that good!

[Bobby_Boomer]

Yes, they could affect you that quickly. As soon as the irritant stops, the inflammation goes down and as soon as the inflammation goes down, so does the pain.

When my bursitis was at it's worst, I couldn't drive a car without putting one of those "blue ice" packs behind my hip. I don't remember how quickly I got rid of the blue ice, but I remember being amazed at how soon I felt results.

With me it wasn't so much the nightshades (although I'm sure they contributed), as I wasn't eating nearly as much of them as I was eggs. Lots of eggs. Scrambled eggs for breakfast and hard boiled eggs for mid-day snacks. I was working on a cruise ship, didn't like the lunches they served the staff, so I loaded up on lots of scrambled eggs at the breakfast buffet and skipped lunch.

I was getting very skinny on the eggs, co I continued the egg diet when I got off the ship. Cutting out the egg yolks was probably the biggie for me.

I still eat egg whites - with no problem and follow the rest of the diet.

Of course, everybody is different. If you don't feel better right away, stick with it.

Bobby

[leisha]

I don't eat eggs at all so I know it's something else for me. My worst fear is that the "red meat" (the only kind I eat) might be a problem too. I haven't had the nightshades but felt stiff again this morning after a big beef patty last night. I'll just have to keep eliminating until I find the right combination. I truly believe this is my answer!

Do you mind me asking your age Bobby?

[Bobby_Boomer]

I'll be 66 this month and I am on no prescriptions at all - zero - zilch - nada. Most people say I look much younger (it's good to have nice friends). All my blood work is in the recommended zones, and I have no major health challenges. And I haven't missed a day of work since 1964 (and I don't plan to retire, I love my job and since I'm self-employed, nobody can put me out to pasture).

BTW, you have to be careful about egg yolks (read the labels). My DW ate a few meals in a week with mayonnaise and her hands immediately flared up. Then it dawned on her, what do they make mayo with? Eggs of course.

Red meat is supposed to be OK as long as it's lean. But I suppose everybody is different. I can do a little tomato sauce (and I do every few weeks as the lycopene is good for male health), but my DW cannot. I shy away from the other nightshades. Elimination diet is a good way to find out what's bugging you and what's not.

Being both pain free and prescription free is a blessing. Sure I miss egg yolks, but I don't miss putting a pack of blue ice on my hip just so that I can press the gas pedal on my car.

And I don't miss paying for the SAMe, MSM, Glucosamine and other supplements either - plus I'm happy not to be on prescription drugs or figuring I'd eventually need a hip replacement. Those things are only good for about 10 years and at 76 I probably would heal slower.

Bobby

[leisha]

Wow! That is pretty impressive Bobby! Not a single prescription! Unheard of these days!

You are so right about the hidden egg yolk....I hadn't even thought of that.

Thank you for your wisdom in this matter! I honestly feel like it will/has
made a difference in my life.

[Bobby_Boomer]

I hope it does for you what it did for me. It didn't mask the bursitis, it didn't treat the bursitis, it cured the bursitis.

And that's a good thing.

Bobby

[helper]

Just noticed this most interesting thread. I can totally relate to some of the things mentioned. Thanks to you and the many others for their contributions to this excellent thread.
Hugs, helper

[Bobby_Boomer]

Thanks for the kind words, helper.

I got the information from a doctor in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, I tried it, it worked, so I'm just passing it along.

Being pain free is worth giving up a few foods. Not having to have hip replacement is worth a lot more than that.

I'm happy to help people on the forum. It's my way of paying back those who helped me.

Bobby

[karenb]

My fibro has flared up in the last month. I've been eating summer sauage and hot dogs, I take those would be considered fatty red meat as the hot dogs are beef

[karenb]

I guess they come under the heading of fatty red meat

About the only things on the lists I've been eating if some flour. And I love my egg yolks! Have since I was a kid. My cousin only like whites to he'd get my whites and I'd get his yolks.

Been having a lot of fibro mand joint pain lately. I used to could blame it on weather changes but the weather has been holding steady all year long. In fact I have an appointment this morning for my fibro pain.

I was going to say the only dairy I eat is the half and half in my coffee but I have been eatting cheese with the summer sausage0sort of a double whammy.

I'm going grocery shopping today and it looks like I need to check some things off the list.

Thanks for the reminders!