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Old 07-06-2010, 05:02 PM   #151
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Yeah that. I've mentioned DE on these boards. Truly one of the best things for your skin, building collagen from the inside out.
You mean the stuff that causes silicosis and is used as an abrasive insecticide?
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Yeah that. I've mentioned DE on these boards. Truly one of the best things for your skin, building collagen from the inside out.

How do you take your DE? This guy I really respect said that you need to saturate water in order to get it to absorb. So we have a water jug in the fridge which we always keep a layer of DE at the bottom. We distill our water, and then add all the minerals back in, including the DE.

DE is the bomb. But I digress, maybe save it for another thread :-)
Well, DE doesn't really dissolve, it's more suspended in the water. So I just put a heaping teaspoon full in a small glass of water and drink it. It's not especially tasty, and pretty chaulky, but the health benefits are amazing compared to the cost/bad taste.
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Try it saturated in your water. No taste at all. It takes about a day for it to settle out of the water, then you just leave a layer at the bottom and there is not murkiness. Believe me, it is saturating the all the water you add after that.

You are suppose to squeeze a bit of citrus in it make orthosilicic acid which will increase the absorbability of the silica to your cells, which in turn create the collagen. So if you are just going to take it by the spoonful, a tiny bit of citrus will go a LONG way...:-).

And to Joy, I don't know where you read that, but this is "food grade" DE, which has been used for years in bakery products that you have probably eaten without even knowing it. That's the problem with google....
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Food grade DE = anti-parasite farm animal feed.
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Yeah, DE is pure silica, completely indigestible and microscopically sharp as glass. It kills fleas and other small insects by actually puncturing their exoskeletons causing them to dehydrate. It might help your health if you have worms.

Unless someone can illustrate a mechanism whereby DE can be of any benefit, I would save my money for CO...
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I give DE to my horses - it keeps the flies away after it works it way into their system. I add it to their food and it must be food grade. You can actually add it to your dogs food as well or sprinkle it on their coats. It is not harmful.

I found this online: Food-Grade Diatomaceous Earth is Mother Nature's product and is safe for the environment, pets, and people. It is commonly called Fossil Shell Flour and is used to organically control insects, as an internal wormer, and for parasite removal in both humans and animals.
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Well, I'm not going to try to convince you of the benefits of DE....this is an Oil Pulling thread.

But I will say, they've been using DE as a bulking agent in commercial bakery products for years. You've all eaten it.
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Hi Molly and others,

I have a question.

I had never heard of oil pulling until this thread started. I'm excited to try this for a number of reasons. 1. to 'cure' my dragonbreath that seems to have gotten way worse since focusing on low-carbing. (but I actually think it has more to do with the amount of yogurt I'm eating--milk products definitely stink up the breath for me...) and I've always had sinus problems anyway and I know milk products exacerbate the problem (but I so love my Carbmaster yogurt!!) 2. to boost my energy as some have experienced (I've always felt low-energy no matter what eating plan I've ever been on) 3. to help with receding gums--I've personally noticed, my dentist hasn't pointed it out or worried about it and 4. possibly whitening my teeth a bit as I'm an avid coffee drinker. I think my teeth are very porous as whitening strips make my teeth ACHE. I do have strong teeth however--only 2 fillings my whole life (I'm 42).

Now for the question!

I did my first coconut oil swish (for 12 min) this morning. I re-read through these threads and maybe somehow missed it, but do you brush your teeth before or after you swish with the oil? I ended up brushing after, and my gums are a wee bit tender now.

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Molly! How funny! I just noticed we have basically the same quote!
I have a rubber stamp with that quote on it and have used that line for years!!
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Try it saturated in your water. No taste at all. It takes about a day for it to settle out of the water, then you just leave a layer at the bottom and there is not murkiness. Believe me, it is saturating the all the water you add after that.

You are suppose to squeeze a bit of citrus in it make orthosilicic acid which will increase the absorbability of the silica to your cells, which in turn create the collagen. So if you are just going to take it by the spoonful, a tiny bit of citrus will go a LONG way...:-).

And to Joy, I don't know where you read that, but this is "food grade" DE, which has been used for years in bakery products that you have probably eaten without even knowing it. That's the problem with google....
Thanks! I'll try it!
So do you then drink the murky layer at the bottom?

And Joy, I know, it doens't sound safe initially either...but after more research, you will learn of it's benefits, and like already mentioned, you've eaten it before, just don't realize it, because it is already in some processed foods.

And the cost is so minimal it's laughable. I got a 9 lb bag of it shipped up here (to AK which is expensive) for $30. This bag may last me the rest of my life it's so big.
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Coconut Oil is powerful. Maybe more powerful than people realize. In my time reading peoples experiences, CO caused more reactions (good and bad) than any other oil. It is a very strong anti viral.

When I start to feel like I'm coming down with something I go to the CO immediately. Personally I don't like that initial feeling of the solids on my tongue. It's a personal thing. But I do love the taste!
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Molly, have you ever encountered anyone who gets very, very sleepy after oil pulling with CO? That's my problem... I was OP at night but I got lazy and stopped... I did notice that my skin started to look much better. I should start again but that sleepy feeling made me kind of nervous...if I felt sluggish the next day I blamed the CO. It's weird that others get a burst of energy from it.
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I'm having a heck of a time finding any ingredient labels that cite DE. I'd appreciate it if someone could post one.

ETA: I think someone up the line got DE confused with silicon dioxide. This is a bit like assuming that hair and nails are the same because they're both made of keratin.

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Could someone start a thread on DE? I'm curious to hear more.
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I am swishing as we speak. I'll let you know how it goes. Julie
Yup, me too. Thanks for starting this thread and for all the info.
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Molly, have you ever encountered anyone who gets very, very sleepy after oil pulling with CO? That's my problem... I was OP at night but I got lazy and stopped... I did notice that my skin started to look much better. I should start again but that sleepy feeling made me kind of nervous...if I felt sluggish the next day I blamed the CO. It's weird that others get a burst of energy from it.
I've heard of this before. CO is some really powerful stuff. I would definitely change your oil. I always tell people to start with untoasted, unrefined sesame if you can get it. That's the gold standard.

I'll start a DE thread, but most likely on the health forums. I won't be able to post links however, because many of them sell some natural health products (not DE however) and I bet the moderators won't let me.....
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Done. I put some info about DE on the Vitamins and Supplements forum. Definitely worth the read. And there is so much more you can find out there on the net about it.
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It was really hard to get 2TB of coconut oil in my mouth! This is my first time ever OPing and I have to say, so far, with it in my mouth right now, I am not a huge fan! Lol! I keep wanting to swallow!! Ugh! I feel like oil is getting stuck in my throat! Is that normal? I have been doing it for 2min! Hahahaha!
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Okay, is it normal to feel like you have mucus coming up out of your throat into you mouth while you are pulling? I am trying my very hardest to go the full 20 min. I am on 13min right now! Woot! Only 7 to go, but it is so thick and mucusy(lol, is that a word?)
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Molly-thanks for starting this thread, and the new DE one...I'll have to go check it out.

I don't really have an answer, just a comment...I find it kinda funny that so many people have posted that oil pulling is hard. I'm kinda baffled . What's so hard about swishing liquid around in your mouth?

The only problem I've ever had is once I sneezed with it all in my mouth...now THAT was a huge mess!
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It was really hard to get 2TB of coconut oil in my mouth! This is my first time ever OPing and I have to say, so far, with it in my mouth right now, I am not a huge fan! Lol! I keep wanting to swallow!! Ugh! I feel like oil is getting stuck in my throat! Is that normal? I have been doing it for 2min! Hahahaha!
Wow, 2 tablespoons?? I'm amazed you went for 13 minutes!!

It should be ONE tablespoon...maximum....but I give you an A for effort on this.... :-)
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I don't really have an answer, just a comment...I find it kinda funny that so many people have posted that oil pulling is hard. I'm kinda baffled . What's so hard about swishing liquid around in your mouth?
I think it's the texture that is hard at first...I remember it did feel odd at the beginning. Also it's learning to keep it away from your gag reflexes.
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I've been trying OP with 1 teaspoon of oil, there's no way I could handle 2 Tbs. right now.
I did manage to swish for 15 minutes this morning. I used CO this time.

I also feel the sensation of mucus coming up into the throat while pulling. What is up with that?
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It was really hard to get 2TB of coconut oil in my mouth! This is my first time ever OPing and I have to say, so far, with it in my mouth right now, I am not a huge fan! Lol! I keep wanting to swallow!! Ugh! I feel like oil is getting stuck in my throat! Is that normal? I have been doing it for 2min! Hahahaha!
Whoa girl! I dont think I even get a TBS in. I dont have a very big mouth, LOL.

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Okay, is it normal to feel like you have mucus coming up out of your throat into you mouth while you are pulling? I am trying my very hardest to go the full 20 min. I am on 13min right now! Woot! Only 7 to go, but it is so thick and mucusy(lol, is that a word?)
Totally normal, its cleaning you out!
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Oh! I thought I posted update last night! I went the full 20min on my first try! Woot!!! My teeth felt like I had just left the dentist from a cleaning! I loved it!!

The directions on the first page of this thread said 2TB!?!?!? Lol! So, should I just use 1TB?

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Oh! I thought I posted update last night! I went the full 20min on my first try! Woot!!! My teeth felt like I had just left the dentist from a cleaning! I loved it!!

The directions on the first page of this thread said 2TB!?!?!? Lol! So, should I just use 1TB?
I dont measure mine, just scoop out a spoonful. I cannot comfortably swish too much so Im guessing mine comes in just under 1 TBS. Anything more than that and my cheeks get sore!
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I'm so glad you all have kept this thread going. I remember learning about oil pulling with CO years ago (2003-2004) on this board and no mention was made about sesame oil. I did it with CO a few times back then and found that my teeth felt better somehow. I forgot to keep it up but now I'm back! This time, I'll do it with sesame oil.

Thanks for all the info., people!
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I'm very pleased with all of your OPing. I'll try to keep bumping the thread as long as possible. On many places, my threads go for pages and pages. I do believe that all those people are still OPing today :-)
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Okay, used less CO this time, MUCH BETTER! LOL! I am pulling as I type!

Oh, I had another question! Do you all use the lemo juice or the salt water?

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Salt Water! Lemon can really hurt your enamel......

Here's a hint. Use sea salt. After the third gargle, swallow a bit. There are great minerals in sea salt.
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Thanks! I used the lemon like it said on the first page of this thread last night! WOw! that had a kick! Lol!
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