2 deaths in 4 months what would you do?

nosugar · 08-17-2009, 09:52 AM

Nicities aside as I know everyone here is very kind and caring - i'll get right to the point - in the last 4 months I have lost 2 relatives - mother and aunt - both cancer -both weird cancers having to do with the liver - neither one was a heavy drinker - both huge dieters - every diet out there - although their weight was not very high - maybe high side of "normal" -always had diet of the day products out - atkins bake mix, Davinci syrups etc... I am trying to take something from this. I have thrown out every chemical sugar substitute, only buying organic meats and vegetables - exercising - anything else?
Thanks for any advice!

LMAKINEN1 · 08-17-2009, 10:03 AM

I'm so sorry for your loss!!! Have you talked to your doctor about screening yourself. Maybe getting your liver enzymes checked more often?

ny_shelly · 08-17-2009, 10:15 AM

I'm so sorry. I was thinking you could be proactive in another way - maybe there is a gene you can see if you have to know if this is something you can potentially get? There are lots of articles out there. Maybe you can talk to an oncologist about it and find out everything you can. The more you know, the less scared you will be. I am thinking it may be possible it's like other cancers where you can maybe get a hint that it is something you have to worry about.

Liver An Excellent Target For Cancer Gene Therapy

Gene Activity Pattern Predicts Liver Cancer Spread - National Cancer Institute

Gene Linked To Aggressive Progression Of Liver Cancer Identified

nosugar · 08-17-2009, 10:20 AM

Great Responses! Thank you I knew I could count on you guys here!!

ENDZONE · 08-17-2009, 10:21 AM

As a survivor I recommend getting annual checkups and living life to the fullest!

bmbshl · 08-17-2009, 10:29 AM

I'm so so very sorry for losses Nosugar. I don't have any advice, but it sounds like you're on the right track with some great responses.

Stash'sWife · 08-17-2009, 10:36 AM

I am not much help either, except to investigate herbals which promote healthy liver function.

I do, however, wish to express my deepest sympathies for your losses!

SmileySue · 08-17-2009, 11:22 AM

I am so sorry for your loss.

karenann33 · 08-17-2009, 11:47 AM

My MIL has had cancer THREE times (she's presently in remission). Her sister died of pancreatic cancer.

Here are my observations: Reduce stress and lighten up. My MIL is one bitter, unhappy woman. I'm convinced stress has played a huge role in her health. My FIL eats whatever the heck he wants and is rarely sick. He's 89 btw. However he eats the highest quality foods not processed garbage that is so prevalent on our shelves today. He loves to eat but it's the good stuff not all this diet stuff.

ItsMyJourney · 08-17-2009, 04:46 PM

I am so sorry for your loss.

zizi · 08-18-2009, 08:57 AM

No advice, just HUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Darkfire · 08-18-2009, 09:22 AM

I am so sorry for your loss, I really truly am. That said. I think (not a doc nor do I play one on tv) that genetics play a role. I also think (again not a doc) that you can give it your best shot. Come on over to the Organic board and peek around. I think you are doing the best you can, ditch the boxes, bottles, cans, mixes, muxes and everything in between.

Get your tests, see your doc then put the highest quality food into your body as you can afford. There are herbs for liver support too if that is a concern like milk thistle. There is lemon for a cleanser too. I am a big proponent of beet kvass. There is a picture of a batch I made last week in the below thread.
New Food Porn as promised: Paneer and more (pic heavy)

08-17-2009, 09:52 AM	#1
nosugar Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 376 Gallery: nosugar Stats: 160/140/115 WOE: low carb non processed Start Date: 10/27/07	2 deaths in 4 months what would you do? Nicities aside as I know everyone here is very kind and caring - i'll get right to the point - in the last 4 months I have lost 2 relatives - mother and aunt - both cancer -both weird cancers having to do with the liver - neither one was a heavy drinker - both huge dieters - every diet out there - although their weight was not very high - maybe high side of "normal" -always had diet of the day products out - atkins bake mix, Davinci syrups etc... I am trying to take something from this. I have thrown out every chemical sugar substitute, only buying organic meats and vegetables - exercising - anything else? Thanks for any advice!

08-17-2009, 10:15 AM	#3
ny_shelly Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rochester, NY but originally from Pittsburgh Posts: 3,667 Gallery: ny_shelly Stats: 320.4/312.2/135 ~ 5'6" WOE: Dukan Diet Start Date: 8/26/11 Day 1	I'm so sorry. I was thinking you could be proactive in another way - maybe there is a gene you can see if you have to know if this is something you can potentially get? There are lots of articles out there. Maybe you can talk to an oncologist about it and find out everything you can. The more you know, the less scared you will be. I am thinking it may be possible it's like other cancers where you can maybe get a hint that it is something you have to worry about. Liver An Excellent Target For Cancer Gene Therapy Gene Activity Pattern Predicts Liver Cancer Spread - National Cancer Institute Gene Linked To Aggressive Progression Of Liver Cancer Identified __________________ Goal 33 lbs by Dec 9.

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08-17-2009, 10:03 AM	#2
LMAKINEN1 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 114 Gallery: LMAKINEN1 Stats: 167.5/159.5/133 WOE: low carb Start Date: May 25, 2009/NEW START 1/02/2012	I'm so sorry for your loss!!! Have you talked to your doctor about screening yourself. Maybe getting your liver enzymes checked more often?

08-17-2009, 10:20 AM	#4
nosugar Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 376 Gallery: nosugar Stats: 160/140/115 WOE: low carb non processed Start Date: 10/27/07	Great Responses! Thank you I knew I could count on you guys here!!

08-17-2009, 10:21 AM	#5
ENDZONE Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 339 Gallery: ENDZONE Stats: 260/200/199 (1st goal) WOE: Plain Low Carb Start Date: 07/05/2008 Restart 04/1/13 approx. 236	As a survivor I recommend getting annual checkups and living life to the fullest!

08-17-2009, 10:29 AM	#6
bmbshl Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,050 Gallery: bmbshl Stats: 5'9" WOE: Pregnant Start Date: Feb 16, 2009	I'm so so very sorry for losses Nosugar. I don't have any advice, but it sounds like you're on the right track with some great responses.

08-17-2009, 10:36 AM	#7
Stash'sWife Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,407 Gallery: Stash'sWife WOE: Long-time VLC now trying JUDD Start Date: April 2013	I am not much help either, except to investigate herbals which promote healthy liver function. I do, however, wish to express my deepest sympathies for your losses!

08-17-2009, 11:22 AM	#8
SmileySue Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,238 Gallery: SmileySue Stats: 332/125, size 2 Maintaining since 3/08!! WOE: Low carb and clean eating/whole foods Start Date: 9/05	I am so sorry for your loss.

08-17-2009, 11:47 AM	#9
karenann33 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,911 Gallery: karenann33	My MIL has had cancer THREE times (she's presently in remission). Her sister died of pancreatic cancer. Here are my observations: Reduce stress and lighten up. My MIL is one bitter, unhappy woman. I'm convinced stress has played a huge role in her health. My FIL eats whatever the heck he wants and is rarely sick. He's 89 btw. However he eats the highest quality foods not processed garbage that is so prevalent on our shelves today. He loves to eat but it's the good stuff not all this diet stuff.

08-17-2009, 04:46 PM	#10
ItsMyJourney Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 77 Gallery: ItsMyJourney	I am so sorry for your loss.

08-18-2009, 08:57 AM	#11
zizi Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 4,952 Gallery: zizi Stats: Over 84 lbs. lost in ~16 months. Goal @ 3/2011 WOE: Low Carb Eclectic Start Date: LAST Restart Mid-March 2010	No advice, just HUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

08-18-2009, 09:22 AM	#12
Darkfire MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Baltimore, Maryland 21225 Posts: 1,680 Gallery: Darkfire Stats: 319/256/137 WOE: Organic, Lowerish Carb, Gluten Free Start Date: June 1 09	I am so sorry for your loss, I really truly am. That said. I think (not a doc nor do I play one on tv) that genetics play a role. I also think (again not a doc) that you can give it your best shot. Come on over to the Organic board and peek around. I think you are doing the best you can, ditch the boxes, bottles, cans, mixes, muxes and everything in between. Get your tests, see your doc then put the highest quality food into your body as you can afford. There are herbs for liver support too if that is a concern like milk thistle. There is lemon for a cleanser too. I am a big proponent of beet kvass. There is a picture of a batch I made last week in the below thread. New Food Porn as promised: Paneer and more (pic heavy)