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Big Yapper!!!!
Join Date: Feb 2003
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How do you know if you need meds for depression or anxiety?
I am in the middle of a heartbreaking crisis in my life involving my 15 y.o. dd and it's taking it's toll. She lives with her father and says she hates me. I'm a good mother and I love my children very much and I've done my best in this situation with her but she says I am to blame for everything wrong in her life. I know this is ridiculous, but it's still taking its toll.
I'm trying to be upbeat and "there" for my family but I am just so sad. Everything feels overwhelming right now, including getting dressed or making phonecalls. I'm having heart palps which I can control with breathing and I'm having trouble sleeping or thinking about anything else. I feel sad and on edge and cry pretty easily. I don't want to go anywhere or see anyone outside my family. Should I look into getting on antideppressants? Or just hang in there?
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Very Gabby LCF Member!!!
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Kristina, I could have written your post. I went through the same thing with my then 15 yo DD last spring. She even moved out of the house to live with friends. Things are somewhat better now (she's home) but she still occasionally says she hates me and still ALWAYS blames me for everything that goes wrong in her life.
And yes, I went on antidepressants. Mainly for the sleeplessness and palps. Best thing I ever did for myself. Talk to your Doc, depression is nothing to be ashamed of, nor should it be ignored. Just remember your DD will have a 15 yo DD of her own someday. ![]() |
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Big Yapper!!!!
Join Date: Feb 2003
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MistyLoo, thank you.
I feel like I must be the worst mom in the world to have a child who has turned against us this much. Its staggering. And now...getting to the dr for meds sounds like an impossible task. Is there an alternative to meds? I am praying...writing, too. Breathing.Thanks for making me laugh when I read that about her having a 15 year old daughter of her own someday. |
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Very Gabby LCF Member!!!
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Kristina hun, if you were the world's worst Mom, you wouldn't give a flip what your DD thought of you! Mine has stood up and called me the most awful names and totally treated me like crap. I think it is their hormones, trying to pull away from the ole apron strings, and wanting to grow up, but being afraid to. They use us as whipping boys for every mean thing anyone has EVER said or done to them.
And believe me teenage girls can be cruel to each other! See if you can find some OTC Melatonin. It helps replace seratonin and you should be able to sleep. I read on another thread some people have nightmares using this, but I never have. Do a search for Melatonin and read that thread. ![]() Last edited by MistyLoo : 09-21-2006 at 03:53 PM. Reason: can't spell today |
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Big Yapper!!!!
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Thanks MistyLoo. I'll look into melatonin. My dh is being very loving and supportive. Thank God.
Is your dd still acting out? Mine doesn't even want to speak to me. She said she doesn't even want me to be a part of her life. I think I may have to go on antidepressants. This just feels like way too much to deal with right now. I can't stop crying, I can barely get dressed. Brushing my hair today was beyond me. The phone rings and I don't want to answer it and if someone is at the door I want to run and hide. It's beyond my control, I think. |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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I was just reading the supplement 5HTP has been proven to help with depression...Do a google search on it. There is alot of information about it out there on it. Cheaper than an RX.
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Big Yapper!!!!
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Thanks, kellysue24. I'll see if my doc has any idea what that is since we're in Mexico. LOL Hopefully he will because I would rather try something milder.
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Very Gabby LCF Member!!!
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My DD still acting out..
yep, I'm just handling it better and not letting her know she is getting to me..Very hard to do but it takes the wind out of her sails. When she is hateful to me, I just say "I'm sorry you feel that way" and walk off. I go in my bedroom, stew a bit, then shake it off.She is graduating early (she just turned 16) and I'm ready for her to get a taste of reality. She will be starting college next fall in a town 45 miles from here. I sure hope she does some growing up before then. This part of your post sounds exactly like me a few months ago: "I think I may have to go on antidepressants. This just feels like way too much to deal with right now. I can't stop crying, I can barely get dressed. Brushing my hair today was beyond me. The phone rings and I don't want to answer it and if someone is at the door I want to run and hide. It's beyond my control, I think." But it's not hopeless. Get some meds, talk to someone you trust, cry, scream, let it all out. Then step back and tell yourself you are NOT going to be beaten by a 15 yo girl. Step back from her, be there if she calls but don't let your life get out of hand. At this age it's all about THEM and they cannot see the hurt and anger they cause other people, especially their parents. My situation is different from yours in that mine lives at home, but when she told me to get out of her life, I just said "Alrighty then, if that's what you want." I gave her no rides to school, no spending money, no new clothes, didn't even set her a place at the table (if she wanted to eat she could get her own plate), if she left her plate on the table, it sat there for a week or until she washed it. I refused to sign school papers, buy supplies, well..you get the picture. She lasted about 2 weeks. And last spring when she moved out, I did the same. I gave the lady she was staying with money with the understanding it was to be used for to feed her only, no spending money whatsoever.Oh and the meanest thing I did was put her cell phone on suspension, that really got to her. Hang in there Sweetie, this too shall pass. ![]() |
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Big Yapper!!!!
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When depression starts to effect your sleep and your everyday activity then you may need meds for it.
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Big Yapper!!!!
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I'm now on Zoloft. 7 days now and I can tell a difference in my anxiety and my depression--it's not where I WANT to be but I can almost function normally again...almost. I couldn't handle the depression on my own. Someone from here also gave me good info about an herbal remedy that I plan to use when I come off of the Zoloft...but for right now I can't imagine surviving day to day without it. And with medication out there that can help I hope I never make myself suffer through this again. I'm still very low but not suicidal or zoned or sitting all day crying and and all night long tossing and turning reliving traumatic events in my life.
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Very Gabby LCF Member!!!
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I think the longer you stay on your meds, the more they benefit you. I know my doc said I would be feeling the full effect a couple of weeks after I started mine, and she was right. They have litterly changed my life. I'm this will be your experience too, but if they stop working for you, don't hesitate to ask your doc to change your medsI am so happy you are feeling better! ![]() |
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Big Yapper!!!!
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Thanks MistyLoo.
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Boss of Me
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Just wanted to add something here. If you only get the medicine (which I am on too by the way) you are dealing with the symptom 1/2 of this and not getting at the root of the problem which is probably much deeper. Please consider going to a good Christian counselor to help to resolve what is going on in you and in your daughter on the inside. I can't tell you how important this is. It is true that antipressants are necessary for people sometimes and God has literally saved my life through them! However, only when I started counseling did I truly being to work through pain and baggage that really put me on the road to true healing. I am told now that I have been on the anti-depressants for so long (12 years) that my body's chemistry may have changed and built up a sort of "dependence" on them and I may need them now for the rest of my life. I also had childhood depression so probably it was already there anyway). I am fine with that because I do know that I can function better for God WITH them than without.
I guess my point is that I am SO glad you got help with medicine. But PLEASE know that there is more to it. If you don't know where to find a good Christian counselor, ask your pastor or go to www.newlifelive.org Your daughter and you can experience healing that can help decrease the chance of future problems and lead you to a life of VICTORY like you would never believe! ![]()
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Big Yapper!!!!
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Thanks, Sharon. You're right.
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Big Yapper!!!!
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I'm getting a little better. I'm not where I want to be but I'm not scaring myself anymore. My anxiety is slowly improving and the depression is not as heavy. I still feel very fragile.
I live in Mexico, but there are counselors here. In fact, one of my best friends is a therapist. She has told me I must release my daughter and stop giving her my power but in terms of practical application I'm not sure how that happens or what the next step is. I am a Christian and I know that God is with me and that the process is sometimes just as important as the desired outcome...it just hurts. |
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Hi Kristina
The hardest thing as a mom is to release your kids to their own devices... but you must, to some extent (speaking of a 15yr old). Keep tabs on what she's up to, sure, but to function and be of service to yourself and the rest of your family, YOU have to be able to function. I support your taking anti-depressants; they will be your tool in digging yourself out of the morass you're in right now. I had a falling out with a parent several years back and it threw me into a tailspin: panic attacks, sleeplessness, worthlessness etc. I had to go on ADs; they helped me gain some perspective on the problem, a more philosophical attitude, if you will.... I also think you should get the counseling. It will help you evaluate your daughter's behavior better, sounds like she is being a totally unreasonalbe teenage girl (no surprise there-- I had one and I know how they can be!) and making feel really really bad in the process. Good luck, and you will be OK! |
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Big Yapper!!!!
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Thanks, walkthebeach. It is stunning to me how much this hurt, when I know she's being a 15 year old girl. The panic attacks are the worst! I am trying to stay in communication with my daughter but it's been very difficult since she doesn't want me in her life and we don't live together. If my reaction to her venom weren't so painful I could probably handle her rejection with more of a philosophical approach. I'm praying for that to be a result of the ADs. Today is day 11 and I am still not where I need to be for my family and myself. I was told it can take about 2 or 3 weeks...and one website on Zoloft said UP TO 8 WEEKS!!!!!!!
I know I need to get some counseling to help me deal with this. Are things better for you with the parent you had a falling out with? (((walkthebeach))) I would very much like to be walking on a beach right now. |
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Boss of Me
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Silksandsand, Was just thinking of this. I am in an internship to become a Christian counselor and mentoring with one. She is leading a Rapha 12 step study/group for codependency. It is a little hard to find one but if you could find a church that does this I will just tell you it would be WONDERFUL for what you are going through. You have to realize that you are only responsible for yourself. You can GUIDE your children but you cannot force them to change or think a certain way and you can't FIX it! It sounds easy to do but sometimes where we come from has a lot to do with why we have a hard time doing it. That was definitely the case for me. I am NOT saying you are not to a degree responsible to do the best you can as a parent but her REACTION and what she chooses to do with your advice and God's guidance are for the most part simply up to her. That will be especially the case as she gets older. Anyway, if you cannot find a group, I will be glad to send you the book that you can work through yourself. It is better with a group because you can share and learn from each other but it is a workbook and if you read it all and are honest God really can work through it in a miraculous way! Just PM me if you want me to send this to you but only if you are willing to commit to being honest and work through it honestly and completely. Just saying that because like anything else, you will get out of it what you put into it. A lot of the ladies in our group are in the very same place as you are trying to let go of their children (some as old as 30's!) and this has been a miraculous healing tool for them as well as me. |
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Hi Kristina,
Yeah, things are better with the family member. We're still wary of one another, but time heals all wounds, don't forget that. Especially since it's your daughter-- she'll come around, she's just going thru a hormone jungle right now, and trying to find her own identity, no doubt. About the meds: yes, they take a bit of time to kick in completely. But I felt better almost right away when I was on prozac. Then as I said, after a few weeks, months, I was really able to step back and evaluate the whole situation more calmly. Prayer helps, too I've also had and heard of amazing miracles when you ask your angels to intervene. It's sounds kooky, but when I have problems with another person, I ask my guardian angel to talk to that person's guardian angel and work it out. Try it. I hope you get better each day. And I will pray for you and your daughter that things heal. L, WTB |
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Hi there sounds like a normal part of life for a teenager! Sorry you are having problems,it usually takes about 4 weeks for the zoloft to work comepletly. Hope you are feeling better. kathy
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Big Yapper!!!!
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landis, I dearly wish I had access to something like this but I'm in Mexico.
wtb, I am going to try asking my guardian angel to talk to theirs. I DO feel kooky but it can't hurt, right? H4T, thanks. I have been on it for 15 dyas now and I think it's getting better...slowly. Geez, I wish it would hurry up. I am really counting on the idea that time will heal all wounds. I love my dd so much. Stepping back and not taking this so personally sounds like wise advice but hard to do...but one step at a time. I'm learning! |
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