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Old 03-04-2014, 06:41 AM   #61
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Good morning!!

I think hunger is a funny thing. For me, I rarely feel very hungry. I had to learn the fact that being hungry was a good thing because it meant I actually was eating what I was supposed to eat. I do eat a lot less than I used to when I weighed 195!

Hopefully Mary Kay has stabilized in her weight loss with her special diet.

Need to hit the gym. Our snow is melting but Gary got to use his snowblower yesterday so he was happy.

See you later.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:05 AM   #62
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I rarely feel hunger either.
And while I was losing and being careful and testing my blood to be in ketosis, I had to make myself eat, nearly.

Now I need to remind myself to check whether I'm hungry, because I can graze, even with "legal" food - too much!
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im wondering if theres a way to test BLOOD, and not urine, for ketosis. i have no way to buy ketostrips.
Is there a range ur blood sugar should be in to know ur in ketosis? i have a monitor and test strips for glucose already so i could do that.
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Yes - you have to have a monitor that uses special strips that measure blood for ketones. I think you can sometimes find the monitor for free, but the strips are pricey.
Otherwise checking ketones in urine is now considered imprecise, from what I've read.
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ketone strips for urine are not that expensive at Walmart by the pharmacy...I'd say about $7 for a cannister....only test in the AM first urination. Wont be positive for ketones until at least day 3 or 4 if following Atkins type protein plan. I have not tried it with EFGT. I need to get the book for EFGT....my previous MWL WOE (Atkins like) makes me hungry and I get tired of it.

Judy - Thanks for the info. I totally agree with you about triglycerides....and that is what makes one prone to diabetes type II also! I take a statin for cholestrol, have for years. Over spring break maybe I will look into the EFGT WOE in more depth. Still crazy busy with my nursing students!!
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Debbie I hear you. I think if you get that window of time to make the full commitment, you can succeed. And I think you are right to devote yourself to your students until you can take the time to do this right.

Only reason I'm so hard in your corner is that's what I did.
I realized what a giant life shift and time vacuum this would be (I'm kind of an all-or-nothing person anyway) and I wanted to really really do it and succeed.

It takes a lot of time and attention and planning. And then, like most things, it gets much much easier as time goes on.

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((((Hugs!)))) Judy!

Do you eat veggies and fruit very much at all?

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I eat lots and lots of vegetables (non starchy) and very little fruit.
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I know that is what will have to be my lifestyle. When I get started on fruit I LOVE it and it's sweetness. But it makes me have cravings.

Off to grade careplans for now! I have clinical at the hospital with students 2pm-10:30pm tonight and tomorrow.

Have a great day. The sun is shining and the sky is blue...so it is already better than this past weekend!!
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:56 AM   #70
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Yes, fruit can be dangerous and addicting. Can you just eat one grape? The only fruit I buy is berries.

You are a busy lady, Debbie.
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I'm ignorant - carb dams?

Debby, or Carolyn or Sandy or Cindy (LOL - anybody but me!!) will the adrenal insufficiency make it super hard to lose no matter how perfect we eat? Or can we lose even with adrenal insufficiency?

Can't remember if she is also hypothyroid?
Hummmm......I think this was covered. I would assume it would only affect weight if it affect thyroid function. I would bet the two go hand in hand so I'm assuming there is a correlation but I could be blowing smoke! I will weigh in the am. Last weight was 129. Not my best. Actually the highest I have been in at least 8 years.
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Cindy, we must be on the same spiral! I'm at my highest weight in several years too and am not happy with myself at all. I keep making "fresh starts" that fizzle out too quickly. I'm waiting for that spark to take hold and start a big fire under my butt!
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I had tacos the night before the weigh in - so i refused to post that as my starting weight!!! Sunday I was 108, Monday was 107 and today was 105 - I'll claim that one!

And now I want fruit . . . .
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yes tuscan girl is---im not quite, but close enough---T.W.O. of her
i could weigh 105-115 and look VERY GOOD. i weighed 115 in high school.
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Hi ladies,

Not to worry, Cindy and Sandy, it will come off quickly...I liked the fact that MKay can eat tacos and a few days she has lost the taco weight.

Dh is going to the school to read with the kids today. My friend is gone today so he is taking her spot with her two boys. Lol.
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Even as an adult in my 30's I got down to 108. DH thought that was too skinny. Best realistic goal for me is 138. I got there in Sept 2010 after doing MediWeightloss for almost 1 year. I felt GREAT! Problem was I wasn't really taught how to maintain it as effectively....I think just due to my insulin resistance. When I was told I could start reintroducing carbs they made me crave more. Add to that that I then had horrible sinus issues and was on megadoses of antibiotics which further cause internal inflammation and that I was in grad school and working two jobs so didn't plan like I should have. It took a while (I am not proud to say) but I regained all that I'd worked so hard to lose. I miss that body....

I went on Amazon and ordered EFGT. Should be here in time for Spring Break!!

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Gosh you two walk the walk! How nice for them to have a man come in and read to them. My brother-in-law was a school teacher for years (until he was kicked upstairs into management positions) in our public schools. We always thought it was nice for the kids to have a male figure. He is one of the happiest people I've ever met.
When he was principal of his school, he met all the kids at the door each morning and they all sang together (he plays guitar and sings) and then started their day.
I always thought those kids were the luckiest.

Except in maybe the kids also in my SS's classes. She arranged to have a piano in her room and they sang every day as well. Those kids were blessed, I tell you.

MK well done on the taco weight.
In solidarity, we had Taco Tuesday last night! DH had regular taco shells (not that bad carb-wise, I don't think) and I had two soft taco shells made from Ouizoid's tortillas.
WHAT IN THE WORLD MADE ME WAIT SO LONG TO MAKE THOSE??
They are wonderful.

I put a tortilla in the microwave and microwaved it until it was dry, broke it up into "chips" and enjoyed guacamole with my dinner.

My friend whose husband has stage 4 colon cancer that has spread to his liver wants me to go with her to a local chiropractic place to hear about their nutrition plan. She said there's a guy there who survived stage 4 colon cancer. I checked their website and they are promoting the EFGT (not specifically, but generally) way of eating.
No grains, good fats. I'll have to see whether they are anti-meat.

She has lots of people who want to help her and she does not like to cook. Plus they are all super picky eaters and completely prefer junk food.

So she's rounded up some recipes and I'll scan them and email them to friends who want to help by bringing food.
One person has offered a freezer for their garage. She's doing great at managing and accepting and delegating all the help. That would be a big job in itself, but only she knows what they would actually eat.
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Wow Debbie! I didn't know Barry's book was still available in print form anywhere. You lucked out finding it!!

Yes, Carolyn, I think I can get the extra weight off pretty quickly IF I get focused and make my mind up to just do it! That seems to be the hardest part for me right now.
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Even as an adult in my 30's I got down to 108. DH thought that was too skinny. Best realistic goal for me is 138. I got there in Sept 2010 after doing MediWeightloss for almost 1 year. I felt GREAT! Problem was I wasn't really taught how to maintain it as effectively....I think just due to my insulin resistance. When I was told I could start reintroducing carbs they made me crave more. Add to that that I then had horrible sinus issues and was on megadoses of antibiotics which further cause internal inflammation and that I was in grad school and working two jobs so didn't plan like I should have. It took a while (I am not proud to say) but I regained all that I'd worked so hard to lose. I miss that body....

I went on Amazon and ordered EFGT. Should be here in time for Spring Break!!
I think reading the book will help set the stage for sure.

I have dieted since 6th grade. I have done and done every single diet plan. I will never be skinny again and don't really want to try that hard. I am so happy eating this way and being "close enough". I haven't liked the way I look in pictures for 15 years, but now I do. My lipid profile is excellent. I feel well nearly every day. I just want to enjoy this for awhile.

Sandy said she had a higher goal than she has now. She sat on her higher goal weight, then eventually moved it down. I can see that happening for me, just not yet.

Debbie have you investigated getting on Metformin? Or are you already?
If you are insulin resistant, it might be just the thing. Definitely helped Carolyn and her LC doc thinks every woman over 50 ought to be on Metformin. (thanks standard American diet!)
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Wow Debbie! I didn't know Barry's book was still available in print form anywhere. You lucked out finding it!!

Yes, Carolyn, I think I can get the extra weight off pretty quickly IF I get focused and make my mind up to just do it! That seems to be the hardest part for me right now.
You're sort of setting up a new life!
Your track record is excellent and I have no doubt you'll do it.
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Thank you Judy. I really need an excuse, lol. I hope the "new" wears off pretty fast though or I'm going to be right back up at that higher goal weight!

I'm starting to think maybe I need metformin. It has certainly helped my DH!! I wish I could just buy it some place instead of going through the whole Dr routine.
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I'm starting to think maybe I need metformin. It has certainly helped my DH!! I wish I could just buy it some place instead of going through the whole Dr routine.
I DO TOO!!
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The scale smiled at me this morning. 271.5. If I had bells and whistles I'd be blowing them right now. PARTY!!!
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WOO HOO!!!!!
That's quite a difference after all this time!
Good for you! Good for you!!

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When I started MediWeightloss several years ago, my clinic doc diagnosed me with insulin resistance and I have been on Metformin three times daily since then. Initially it really helped me to lose the weight that first month a little easier. Now my body is used to it. Went to my regular doc about 2 wks ago about feeling tired out and then jittery in the middle of the night (like 1-4am) and I thought my thyroid was going to be the issue. He did a bunch of blood tests and I see him Friday for the results. Wishing I could just be started on Synthroid and BOOM, lose like 30 lbs stat!! (Everyone in my family is on it....mom, dad, both sisters, my daughter...)

Actually on Amazon I got a used copy of the book....
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i have tried metformim several times (insulin resistant and its supposed to help with the PCOS too). it's never made a diff in wgt loss. after sticking with it over a yr now, i have noticed less body hair growth, but just a little diff. no wgt loss at all still from it. no less facial hair growth.
just letting ya's all know it mite not do nuttin for ya's.
the thyroid med did nada either. i even was on T3. i was SURE it was my answer but now i think i just wasnt allowed enough of it. i need high doses with a T4 antidote for certain times as a backup. It's a whole protocol to treat a thryoid issue called Wilson's Syndrome and the MDs that do it are not covered, or the protocol itself isnt covered i should say, under insurance. SIGH

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I think Metformin is a must with PCOS.

Debbie I'm sure you'll end up on thyroid medication. Consider asking for natural thyroid.
I take "Nature-throid".

Synthroid is T4 and is supposed to be converted to T3 for use in the body. Which may or may not happen.

Dr. Mercola says, "Natural thyroid products, like Armour thyroid are a combination of T4, T3 and T2 made from desiccated, or dried, porcine thyroid. Armour thyroid has gotten a bad rap over the years, perceived by physicians to be unstable and unreliable in terms of dosage. However, many improvements have been made in the product, making it a safe and effective option for treating hypothyroidism."

If you want to read a little about your symptoms relative to thyroid, there is a website called "Stop the thyroid madness." There's also a thyroid area on LCF.
You'd be surprised how many symptoms you might have that are related to thyroid. Well, I should say, I was surprised. HA HA. You (Debbie & Helene) probably already know all this.

Helene you sound like you might have a special condition that will be one of those "save up" for testing and treatment things. *sigh*
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yeah, if i were to play the lottery, i could say, when i win the lottery...
lol
then again, i have decided i am going to beat this again.
i have decided.
it's 90% done, huh
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I've taken Armour for years! there was a time period where there was a shortage as they reformulated it but no problems now. I take 90 twice a day. I do think it's made a huge difference in my life.

Sharon!!! WTG!! You need to go get some bells and whistles!! I think they're going to be needed in your future!

Carolyn, how did Gary like his reading date? I think that's so cool that he's doing that.

Oh, BTW, it's snowing here. Grrrr. I want spring!!!!!!
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