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Old 11-12-2012, 09:47 AM   #301
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Cold this morning. I think it got to 22 degrees last night so a hard freeze. Got to use my auto-start on my car and test run the seat heaters. Man they heat up quick and high! Almost fried my buns!!
We visited family in St. Louis in July one time and my dh accidentally activated his seat heaters. We ALL knew about it very quickly!!

Buffy that story about raising calories and protein is very interesting. But you are tall. I think I'm going to experiment a little...
I just have been so comfortable eating so little protein, I hate tweaking more, at least for the next 6 weeks...

I think I just won't stress if I'm strictly eating low carb and if I have more protein.

Thanks for the update and SO many CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!


Maybe, as others have mentioned, it's just good to change things up a bit.
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Judy, what is your height? I kept thinking of you all week as I was experimenting with the higher calories that Red figured for me, knowing he had done your numbers too. What was most interesting was that my usual daily bounce of up to 3 lbs was only within a 1 lb range all week, except for the day I overdid the fudge. And, I know that part of the nice new low this morning was the fact that yesterday, my calories were really low and I didn't eat from say 1:00 pm on. But, I wasn't trying not to eat, just wasn't hungry and knowing that I was going for a new low this morning, decided to just have one really low calorie day, which I don't think hurts but wouldn't have suffered through either. You might give it a try??
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Adding, we will see what this week brings! Will continue the experiment.
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Judy, what is your height? I kept thinking of you all week as I was experimenting with the higher calories that Red figured for me, knowing he had done your numbers too. What was most interesting was that my usual daily bounce of up to 3 lbs was only within a 1 lb range all week, except for the day I overdid the fudge. And, I know that part of the nice new low this morning was the fact that yesterday, my calories were really low and I didn't eat from say 1:00 pm on. But, I wasn't trying not to eat, just wasn't hungry and knowing that I was going for a new low this morning, decided to just have one really low calorie day, which I don't think hurts but wouldn't have suffered through either. You might give it a try??
I am 5'4". OK, 5'3-3/4". Let me have that 1/4". I feel so tall....

I can tell you - I think I'll try it here and there. And like you, if I just have a no-hunger day, I'm not going to worry about it.

I think I'm going to have a lot of days where I'm trying different recipes getting ready for Thanksgiving and Christmas, so that will give me room for higher calories here and there.

I'll tell you what - that little cake is A-W-E-S-O-M-E and I only frosted it with a mixture of cream cheese, butter, and DaVinci. I love chocolate, but I'm so happy with this spice cake version.... And honestly it's only about 102 calories without frosting. Sheesh it's good. It's cake!
So I'll make room for that, too.
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Do you think we could tweak that little cake in any way to get rid of some of the dryness? I solved that by using butter on it, but would like to make it without it being so dry, otherwise, it is like a cinnamon roll but biscuit like in texture. I made a butter cream icing out of powdered swerve, butter, HWC and vanilla.

Oh, and I ordered the Swerve special on the powdered sugar. I am loving it as much as the other swerve. Wonder if they will come out with brown sugar next?
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DD's have requested a cheesecake, so will be going through my file for the one I will try, I priinted out one recently that was a fave.
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DD's have requested a cheesecake, so will be going through my file for the one I will try, I priinted out one recently that was a fave.
It sure would be nice to see.... *ahem*.... otherwise you're just toying with us.

On the little cake, I subbed out 1 Tbsp coconut flour for 1 Tbsp almond flour and my cakes were not REAL dry. I was happy they were frosted, though.

Which begs the question, would 2 Tbsp almond flour (thereby completely eliminating the coconut flour) make it more moist? Probably.

If you post your favorite cheesecake recipe, I'll try out the little cake with 2T almond flour instead of any coconut flour.

Oh let's face it. I'm going to try out the little cake no matter whether you post or not!
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Swerve is the one I use all the time now too. Love it! I made my cranberry sauce with it and had no problem with it. In fact I put the cranberries in along with the swerve and water and turned the heat on. It all came out just fine in about 10 minutes. Added a capful of orange extract at the last.

Judy I'm a shorty at 5'3". Wonder what my numbers would be at 150#?

Buffy your experiment sounds intriguing.

My turkey turned out great and even made the cauliflower mashed potatoes with my stick blender to go with it. We ate like king and queen for 2 days. We'll be having turkey sandwiches today with revolution type rolls. Oh yes, I don't think I'll be using the guar gum anymore for gravy making. I'll be using the coconut flour from now on. Didn't like the way it changed the gravy taste.

Well time to stop playing on here and get busy. Have a great day ladies.
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Beat you to it Judy, I made the little cinnamon cake with almond flour, came out almost if not exactly the same.

Ok gang, I just talked to the wonderful people at swerve. Love a small company, they even remembered me from my orders and talking to me before. They are going to send me something she said I could copy and paste on the board here but, tada!!

Swerve at any amount still counts as 0 calories b/c it does not have the fillers that other sweeteners do!! And, also, 0 carb is utilized by your body, so, your body treats it as 0 carb. I do believe her b/c it has no impact on my BS at all.

She said they are expanding into more and more of the Whole Food stores, have lots of big plans and working with big bakery ideas, on and on. They seem like great people so I am happy things are working so well for them. And us!!! I asked her about brown sugar, she said they have had lots of request for that but at this time, nothing in their plans but suggested the trick of adding a little molasses.
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Swerve = Have you cake and eat it too!!!

Sharon, yes, I am going to make cranberries with it too.
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Beat you to it Judy, I made the little cinnamon cake with almond flour, came out almost if not exactly the same.
What will I bargain with??
What if we threw in a tbsp or so of hwc? Or butter?
Ouizoid is a low fat low calorie person. Thoughts?


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Swerve is the one I use all the time now too. Love it! I made my cranberry sauce with it and had no problem with it. In fact I put the cranberries in along with the swerve and water and turned the heat on. It all came out just fine in about 10 minutes. Added a capful of orange extract at the last.

Judy I'm a shorty at 5'3". Wonder what my numbers would be at 150#?

Buffy your experiment sounds intriguing.

My turkey turned out great and even made the cauliflower mashed potatoes with my stick blender to go with it. We ate like king and queen for 2 days. We'll be having turkey sandwiches today with revolution type rolls. Oh yes, I don't think I'll be using the guar gum anymore for gravy making. I'll be using the coconut flour from now on. Didn't like the way it changed the gravy taste.

Well time to stop playing on here and get busy. Have a great day ladies.
My first goal is 146 (I think - I've revised it so many times! ). I think this high figure will actually put me in the very top of "normal" weight category and not overweight.

I weighed 138 for about 10 minutes one time after losing 100 pounds using diet pills. I kept most of the weight off eating low fat (ugh) or kind of Weight Watchers. But I really could not lose in the last 3 years even restricting calories.

Obviously I'm menopausal and have just recently been able to find I needed a little thyroid support.

I weigh 155 - 154.5 right now and I am NOT unhappy with how I look right now. I'm never going to be skinny.
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Hi Sharon,
The Height & Weight Charts say:
5'3"
  • Small frame - 111-124;
  • Medium frame - 121-135;
  • Large frame - 131-147
Following is the method an Insurance Co. uses to calculate frame size:
  1. Extend your arm in front of your body bending your elbow at a ninety degree angle to your body so that your forearm is parallel to your body.
  2. Keep your fingers straight and turn the inside of your wrist towards your body.
  3. Place your thumb and index finger on the two prominent bones on either side of your elbow, then measure the distance between the bones with a tape measure or calipers.
  4. Compare to the chart below. The chart lists elbow measurements for a medium frame - if your elbow measurement for that particular height is less than the number of inches listed, you are a small frame - if your elbow measurement for that particular height is more than the number of inches listed, your are a large frame.
  • 5'0" - 5'3"- 2-1/4" to 2-1/2"
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3-1/2" between the large bones of my elbow.
I know I measured that earlier this year when I started eating this way, but I do think I'm a larger frame person.

However I'm 5'3-3/4" which is an entire 3/4" taller than Sharon

And I'm probably going to pick a number I can live with. I'm 54. I was under 30 when I lost all that weight.

And I know we were talking about Sharon and not me, but see how I did that?
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3-1/2" between the large bones of my elbow.
I know I measured that earlier this year when I started eating this way, but I do think I'm a larger frame person.

However I'm 5'3-3/4" which is an entire 3/4" taller than Sharon

And I'm probably going to pick a number I can live with. I'm 54. I was under 30 when I lost all that weight.

And I know we were talking about Sharon and not me, but see how I did that?
Judy you're funny! I would of thought you were TALL, just picturing you from your photo...
Yeah, I checked mine & I'm right on the edge of small/medium, although I always thought I was medium(wrist measures 6 inches). Its pretty accurate for me though. I was thinner at 127 when I was younger. I think I actually should weigh less now to be that size, or build some muscle. I am that size, but need some "smoothing-out" ... and that is my comfort-spot.
It really is a "comfort level" - each person has their own. And, apparently if you have a bit of body fat you won't suffer so bad during menopause... although too much would make it worse. Just thinking of the hot flashes.
I have found that its much easier to "maintain" a weight loss if I get to my goal weight then if I stop short of it. Don't know why.
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Hmmph! I had oodles of BF when I went through menopause and the hot flashes almost made me move to Alaska!!! Why is it so darn miserable for so many women, just be done with it and quit torturing women.

Ok, I just made the Little Cake again. This time I made it per the original recipe but added 1/2 t Xanthan to it. Instead of a scant 1/2 cup of liquid, I used a brimming 1/4 cup cinnamon Davinci and brimming 1/4 cup HWC. Totally different texture. Not biscuit like at all, more like a cake texture. Think maybe 1/4 t of Xanthan will be my next experiment. I kind of liked a little bit of the biscuit texture, it was just tooo dry. Ate the whole thing after a bowl of cream of chicken soup and now am sooo totally stuffed. Off to log it and see where I am for the day. Might venture into chocolate when I get my dark hersheys cocoa. I could not find it locally, with having several grocery stores within about 3 miles of my house, so ended up ordering it, 6 cans to an offer. I will die with dark Hersheys stashed in my pantry!! And swerve, and coconut flour, and almond flour and all those other mystery items I now have that I rack my brain trying to figure out what they are for and what they do. Should say freezer/pantry, I keep a lot of this stuff in my freezer.
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Cream of chicken soup?
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You'll be able to share some of that Hershey's with your dds. There's not much better than being able to whip up your own personal on-plan dessert, be it cake or cheesecake...
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One of my son-in-laws has an over the top OCD problem and insomnia. He roams the house during the night, organizing everything and cleaning and straightening things. I was staying there one night and left my watch and wedding ring laying on the counter, in the morning, it was sitting there in a beautiful crystal bowl . Anyway, the other day he said to my dd. "You know, your mom is having you buy all these things for your "new" diet you guys are on and the pantry is getting a little messy. Don't you think you should throw out all the things from your last diet?"

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Ok, the cream of chicken soup is something I came up with the other night and it is good.

About once a week or so, I put on a big soup pot of chicken pieces, add liberal amounts of salt and pepper and about 1/2 butter. Simmer all day. Strain out the chicken and save the broth, freeze some of it. Pick off the chicken and put in 4 oz ziploc bags for the freezer.
The soup.
Heat 2 cups of broth, add 4 oz of pieces of chicken, some salt and pepper if needed and heat to boiling. Melt 2 T of butter, whisk in 1 t of Xanthan gum, this gives just a tiny thickening, I will probably experiment with just a little more. Add to boiling mix, add 1 cup HWC and just heat through, don't boil the cream. Very good. This made about 3 1 1/4 cup servings.
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Wowza ladies..

Buffy....We are so proud of you...I will be watching how you do this week with the extra calories..

Now, I know what I saved the broth from my turkey..I'm going to make cream of turkey soup tonight..Thanks...I might saute some celery/onion in the butter..
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Ok, the cream of chicken soup is something I came up with the other night and it is good.

About once a week or so, I put on a big soup pot of chicken pieces, add liberal amounts of salt and pepper and about 1/2 butter. Simmer all day. Strain out the chicken and save the broth, freeze some of it. Pick off the chicken and put in 4 oz ziploc bags for the freezer.
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Heat 2 cups of broth, add 4 oz of pieces of chicken, some salt and pepper if needed and heat to boiling. Melt 2 T of butter, whisk in 1 t of Xanthan gum, this gives just a tiny thickening, I will probably experiment with just a little more. Add to boiling mix, add 1 cup HWC and just heat through, don't boil the cream. Very good. This made about 3 1 1/4 cup servings.
I AM SO HAPPY!!! Thank you!!

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I'm happy throwing out anything of my dh's, but everything I have ever owned is sacrosanct. Ridiculous.
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Wowza ladies..

Buffy....We are so proud of you...I will be watching how you do this week with the extra calories..

Now, I know what I saved the broth from my turkey..I'm going to make cream of turkey soup tonight..Thanks...I might saute some celery/onion in the butter..
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Good idea Carolyn on the addition of the celery and onion.

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I'm medium frame. My measure was 2 1/2". I know for me though I'm happy weighting 150# at 67 years old. Now if I can only get there...

Gosh Buffy your soup sounds so good. Is the cake you're all making the chocolate one from chicken lady? Not sure now..Is that one made in the microwave?

I have to run to catch up with you two. LOLOLOL!
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No Sharon, the little cake we have been talking about is one Judy posted the recipe for, about 2-4 pages back I think. Let me know if you don't find it. Quick, easy and filling although if you want to make a real regular size cake the Almond Flour Fudge cake is delish.
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I'm medium frame. My measure was 2 1/2". I know for me though I'm happy weighting 150# at 67 years old. Now if I can only get there...

Gosh Buffy your soup sounds so good. Is the cake you're all making the chocolate one from chicken lady? Not sure now..Is that one made in the microwave?

I have to run to catch up with you two. LOLOLOL!
This is called Basic Flour Mixture (author: ouizoid)

Earlier in this thread Buffy was talking about the Basic Flour Mixture from Ouizoid. I ran the numbers only as to those shown:
2 Tbs Oatfiber 0 cals
1 Tbs coconut flour 30 cals; 1g fat; 1.5g carb; 1g pro
1 Tbs almond flour 40 cals; 1.5g fat; .75 carb; 1.5g pro
1 Tbs vanilla protein powder 18 cals; 0 fat; 0.3 net carb; 3.7g pro
1 Tbs egg white powder 13.3 cals; 0 fat; 0 carb; 4g protein
1/2 tsp baking powder
1/2 tsp glucomannan powder
1 Tbs erythritol (optional) (used two packets Truvia)
spices (optional--but is great with pumpkin pie spice or cinnamon)

To this I add a mixture of DaVinci SF syrup and water or almond milk. My mixture is about 1/2 cup to start, but because of the coconut flour, more liquid may be necessary. Microwave for 3 minutes.
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Obviously this is for the protein powder I have where 1 heaping scoop = about 6.5 tablespoons and 120 calories. I also subbed 1 T coconut flour for 1 T almond flour.

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TOTALS WITHOUT FROSTING 102 calories; 2.5g fat; 2.55 net carbs; 10.2g protein
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Got it, thanks girls. I'm waiting on the oat fiber that's why I had memory loss. I'll be trying this one soon.
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