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p0llyanna 10-07-2009 10:29 PM

400 calories per day to....EFGT?
 
I've posted elsewhere telling my whole story, but basically, I've been starving myself on and off for 4 years...every time I tried to recover and followed my doctor and nutritionist's "healthy" guidelines (read: food pyramid) I end up piling on a ton of weight, which was to be expected due to bad metabolism most likely, but then to their dismay wouldn't be able to lose excess...

So I'd give up hope of ever eating normal amounts of food. I've been resorting to restricting to about 400 calories or less a day again, while running 4 miles a day (not so much anymore, I'm at college so a lot to do...) needless to say I lost most of the excess weight (I am at a healthy weight, not underweight), and now just want to EAT and be happy!

I'm scared following the 'wholesome' guidelines will just make me relapse again...I'm interested in this plan and wondering if I start it will I put on insane amounts of weight...I know theoretically fat shouldn't make you fat but isn't my body desperately clinging to, well, everything?? How would I make the switch? Increase calories slowly? At once? I'm just so confused....and don't trust my nutritionist :annoyed: I had a vegan phase for awhile and ate piles and piles of fruit though not many grains...even gained on THAT...I have a feeling my body just doesn't enjoy many carbs.

Thanks for any help!

CindyCRNA 10-09-2009 03:09 PM

Pollyanna, welcome to the boards. Those who are insulin sensative will enjoy this diet and it works for many.Here area few tips:

Get on ******.com to track your percentages. Very easy with this program.
You may consider a check up to look at your thyroid function.
Read some of the threads and look at some menues.
Buy what you need to get started so your not standing there hungry with no good choices.
When you want others on the diet to talk to, come on over to our current thread, "Bewitching in October"

skoolmarm729 10-12-2009 06:37 PM

You already know that starving yourself doesn't work. And it's obvious that there are many, many helpful people on these boards who can testify that eating the lc way DOES work.

After 4 years of lc-ing I have learned that this wol does work and NOT eating this does NOT. It's as simple as that.

RJLupin 02-04-2010 12:35 PM

It's been a while since you posted this, but PLEASE get help. If you're on 400 calories a day and running 4 miles you may have damaged your heart and other organs. This is much worse for you than almost any amount of being fat would be. Please, find some counseling to help you understand why you would do this to yourself. Only after you are better should you even try to start any kind of diet. What you are doing is very dangerous.

mightymouse 05-24-2010 09:25 AM

I agree - you need to get some help. You will need to work with a nutritionist to slowly up your calories because your metabolism (and probably other hormones as well) is most certainly out of whack after starving yourself. If you opt not seek professional help - I would recommend that you focus on wating high quality foods - healthy fats, proteins, & fruits and veg WITHOUT COUNTING CALORIES!! Two great resources - Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon & Eat Fat, Lose Fat by Sally Fallon & Mary Enig.

IWILLDOIT1978 06-10-2010 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by p0llyanna (Post 12583921)
I've posted elsewhere telling my whole story, but basically, I've been starving myself on and off for 4 years...every time I tried to recover and followed my doctor and nutritionist's "healthy" guidelines (read: food pyramid) I end up piling on a ton of weight, which was to be expected due to bad metabolism most likely, but then to their dismay wouldn't be able to lose excess...

So I'd give up hope of ever eating normal amounts of food. I've been resorting to restricting to about 400 calories or less a day again, while running 4 miles a day (not so much anymore, I'm at college so a lot to do...) needless to say I lost most of the excess weight (I am at a healthy weight, not underweight), and now just want to EAT and be happy!

I'm scared following the 'wholesome' guidelines will just make me relapse again...I'm interested in this plan and wondering if I start it will I put on insane amounts of weight...I know theoretically fat shouldn't make you fat but isn't my body desperately clinging to, well, everything?? How would I make the switch? Increase calories slowly? At once? I'm just so confused....and don't trust my nutritionist :annoyed: I had a vegan phase for awhile and ate piles and piles of fruit though not many grains...even gained on THAT...I have a feeling my body just doesn't enjoy many carbs.

Thanks for any help!

Sweetie,

I think that you might need some help and if you cant trust the nutritionist that you are with now then you might need to search out a new one. Just wondering what is your current weight? I hope that you get the help that you need and the best of luck to you!!!!:up: you will find lots of awesome people around here so i know that i have so stick around here. we'd like that!!! :console:

TheHealthyAdvocate 06-13-2010 06:38 PM

Polly,

I was in the same boat you were/are. In fact, I think we are pretty close. About four years ago I went into treatment for anorexia nervosa (age 16), and was seriously doing damage to my system.

The re-feeing process is incredibly important, as you know, to get your body in an adequate state of health. It's what you do with that nutrition program in the long term that helps determine your future health-both body and mind.

Many of the things that the conventional nutritionists were giving us at the hospital were things like high carb, low fat, sugar laden processed foods. It was recommended for our health, as were prescription medications.

After discovering a whole new way to look at food and switched to a grain free, sugar free diet (while at the same time "finding" myself in a low-carb lifestyle as well), I feel much better than I did before. In fact, I am maintaining my health at a low weight, even lower than the healthy weight I was at four years ago, by eating real butter, eggs, milk, coconut oil, and cutting out processed foods.

I went through a part of my recovery where I would eat too much too, because we were never taught to listen to our bodies during meals at the hospital. I am relearning that process, and am finally hearing my body's signals to tell me when to stop eating.

So, to answer your question, I do think that finding a good holistic nutritionist that will really listen to your needs about your health is important. I sort of found one as soon as I came out of treatment, which I'm grateful for.

Every body is different, as is every mind. I think we both have found ourselves in similar situations, and now we both know we want to eat to be healthy, to live out our lives to the fullest extent--so we can achieve our dreams and goals, and contribute to the world.

Find out where your calories are now. Then, work with your nutritionist to specialize a diet where you can remain relatively low in carbs (if that is what you are going after) and processed foods, so you can increase your caloric content slowly. Once you increase calories by incorporating more and more healthy, unprocessed foods, your body will have the energy it needs to exercise (in a healthy manner), have a better metabolism and blood sugar, and will also help regulate mood and how you mind works/behaves, so you won't be tempted to overeat at times.

Good luck, and good health. :)

IWILLDOIT1978 06-13-2010 08:55 PM

Just checking in to see how u r doing. Hope that all is well. Just wanted to drop by and see you!!! Have a wonderful night!!!!! :)

TheHealthyAdvocate 08-06-2010 06:11 PM

BTW--by limiting your amount of carbs and/or sugar, you will lower your insulin levels, and also optimize your grehlin and leptin hormones. These are the hormones that tell you when you're hungry, and when you're full.

So, following this "wholesome" eating plan as advocated on my posts on this board, you will have a better connection to your body, and only eat when your body feels the need to. So, in a sense, eating good, healthy fats and proteins, you will release yourself from the fear of ever overeating, because you are more connected to these internal signals.

perrytomato 09-01-2010 10:47 AM

I was reading this thread after visiting the Endocrinologist for the first time today. I've been diagnosed with PCOS and honestly, no matter what I eat or how much I exercise, I gain weight. I tried to explain to him that something was wrong with me that I could work that hard and not have a single pound lost (actually more like 20 gained). Right now I'm doing the JUDDDD (Johnson's Up Day Down Day Diet) which means I cycle between a 400 calorie day and "normal" eating day. I still try to avoid carbs on the up/normal day.

The Endocrinologist basically told me that it's "science" - if you burn off more than you consume, you lose weight. Every 3500 calories = 1 lb. I know that I'm burning more than that. He really dismissed me and has decided to put me on a 400 calorie per day, all liquid diet for up to 4 months. Lipotrim is the name. I have major concerns that my body will go into starvation mode and when I start to ease back onto regular food I'll put on all that weight and more! 400 calories every day seems like an eating disorder to me!!

Anyone tried Lipotrim and successfully come off it without gaining? I don't want to question him because he's a specialist... but I"m still concerned.

Thanks for any advice you can give.

Dharma 09-30-2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by perrytomato (Post 13849551)
The Endocrinologist basically told me that it's "science" - if you burn off more than you consume, you lose weight. Every 3500 calories = 1 lb. I know that I'm burning more than that. He really dismissed me and has decided to put me on a 400 calorie per day, all liquid diet for up to 4 months. Lipotrim is the name. I have major concerns that my body will go into starvation mode and when I start to ease back onto regular food I'll put on all that weight and more! 400 calories every day seems like an eating disorder to me!!...
Thanks for any advice you can give.

That equation is ridiculous. It's BAD "science" - just read Michael Eades blog for rebuttal.

I haven't tired Lipotrim but I was on a 900 calorie per day diet for 4 months and basically my body stopped making thyroid and female hormones and I haven't been the same since, in spite of putting on 35 pounds since then.

We need good healthy fats to make hormones. I'm sticking with EFGT because it's what MY body functions best on. Maybe you could try it and see how you do?

gettingthinner 10-09-2010 10:47 PM

Supposedly if you try hCG while on 400 calories per day that your body will not go into starvation mode and you'll burn only fat. I failed after the first day. LOL Some people can do it.


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