OMG! Barry Groves fans... he just emailed me and GUESS WHAT!!

Margot 65 · 09-02-2008, 01:41 PM

He has a new BOOK COMING OUT!!

I emailed him to ask about NET carbs and told him I of course am a HUGE fan, and that there were several more here at LCF.

it wasn't more than a couple hours when he sent me this.. I CANNOT WAIT to see this book!!

Hi [my first name]

Thanks for writing. I wish there were more like you, lol. Congratulations and well done on the weight loss.

The carbs are net carbs; I don't count fibre. (Perhaps I should as even fibre can contain up to 2 calories per gram, but that is not a lot.)

I would like to visit lowcarbfriends.com more often. I have been very busy this last year with another book called Trick and Treat, which will be published -- guess when? Yes, the end of next month. Actually it has nothing to do with the American kids extortion with menaces game -- at least you get a choice with that. T&T, subtitled "how 'healthy eating' is making us ill", is about the corruption, fraud and misinformation we, on both sides of the Atlantic, are subjected to so that we are made ill and can be exploited for profit by drug companies, food manufacturers and the 'health industry' generally.

T&T is just over 500 pages - the biggest book my publisher has published so far and, she tells me, 'the most readable'. Clarissa Dickson Wright, a British TV food celebrity, has said of it: 'A great book that shatters so many of the nutritional fantasies and fads of the last twenty years. Read it and prolong your life.'

Anyway, now that this book is finished, I should have a little more time to look in on you all -- when I've caught up in the garden!

Best wishes

Barry
Author: Natural Health and Weight Loss
Co-producer: Be Slim Without Dieting (Video / DVD)
Online Nutritional Information and Nutritional Facts - Second Opinions, UK
Cure Diabetes with the correct diabetic diet - Diabetes Diet. UK
The benefits of high cholesterol - Cholesterol-and-Health.org.uk

afuentes · 09-02-2008, 02:15 PM

Very cool - looking forward to that.

Charski · 09-02-2008, 02:32 PM

Wow, what a nice, personalized reply!

hummingbird11 · 09-02-2008, 02:34 PM

Hey Prozak,
you should ask him to send you (his biggest fan) a signed copy of his new book! I bet he would!

XO,
Effexor

nh_mooser · 09-02-2008, 02:35 PM

Ok, now you've got my curiosity up. What's the first book I should be reading by him? I'm always looking to learn new things about becoming healthy, not just thin.

Margot 65 · 09-02-2008, 02:38 PM

It is the book that changed my life

Amazon.com: Natural Health & Weight Loss: Barry Groves:...

Not only that, he knows how to spell FIBRE

nh_mooser · 09-02-2008, 02:44 PM

Thanks, I'm going to order it. Or, do you think I can get it in a local book store?

Margot 65 · 09-02-2008, 02:47 PM

I have heard of people having trouble finding it locally.. I had to wait 2 weeks from amazon.ca

Your bookstore should be able to order it if you would rather use them than amazon

when you pick it up, grab a package of sticky tabs and a highlighter (maybe 2 or 3 different colors too LOL)

LightlyStarched · 09-02-2008, 02:48 PM

Yeah! I can't wait to see the new book. Sounds like it will be similar in tone to GCBC.

whatjelly · 09-02-2008, 02:49 PM

Awesome!

Margot 65 · 09-02-2008, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightlyStarched

Yeah! I can't wait to see the new book. Sounds like it will be similar in tone to GCBC.

This would be great! Barry has such a great style and appeals to so many who hate the textbook type books. GCBC was GREAT, but it would be tedious for many of my friends and family to get through, let alone understand it IYKWIM.

I am so excited

CARLINI · 09-02-2008, 03:01 PM

I wonder what the main difference is between his plan and Atkins is? I'll need to look into this...

Margot 65 · 09-02-2008, 03:21 PM

Barry's Plan, check out the EFGT other plans sticky thread:

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/ot...acts-info.html

The great thing about the book is it just lays it all out, WHY we are fat and how what we are being to told to do to fix it is ALL WRONG.

Check out his website, there is a lot of good stuff there:

Online Nutritional Information and Nutritional Facts - Second Opinions, UK

My Brother is ONLY 35 and just had cataract surgery, has psoriases AND anklyosing spondylitis AND depression.

After years of him suffering I was happy to hear that my brother has now gone GLUTEN FREE. I had sent him the links a few months back and he finally bit the bullet and is giving it a go. He will be eating less carbs too... I should call him and see how he is doing. He never really had much of a weight problem, but neither did my sister who is also gluten intolerant. Neither of them were very health despite their size.

Margot 65 · 09-02-2008, 03:23 PM

The basic rules for 'Eat Fat Get Thin' (the original UK title of the book) can be found here. It is in that thread only down a few posts:

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/ot...ml#post8990557

CARLINI · 09-02-2008, 04:04 PM

Hmmm, to many carbs for me personally. Glad it's working for you tho.

Margot 65 · 09-02-2008, 04:33 PM

LOL I do nowhere NEAR that many carbs, in fact I do about half of what YOU do.

it is not a diet laid out like Atkins with stages and ladders and such.. those are just guidelines.

The thing is, people are afraid of 'low carb', afraid of not getting their '5 servings of fruits and veggies' and '10 servings of whole grain' everyday. So many people think of 'low carb' to be an unhealthy way of eating, even a lot of low carbers think we need to have a lot of fruits and veggies and 'some' whole grains to maintain health.

The book merely blows the lid off of mainstream thinking.

I wish I had read it BEFORE I got pregnant.. I probably wouldn't have gained back my 50lbs (plus almost 30 more) because I thought that eating more carbs was a NECESSITY unless I was trying to lose weight.

This book is for the fat, the thin and the too thin... it is for everyone

Sunny7 · 09-02-2008, 04:52 PM

I just called my local Barnes and Nobles bookstore too see if they carried the Natural Health and Weight Loss, said they didn't and they could not order it either. I will have to check Amazon

Margot 65 · 09-02-2008, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hummingbird11

Hey Prozak,
you should ask him to send you (his biggest fan) a signed copy of his new book! I bet he would!

XO,
Effexor

LOL I should ask for commission! I wonder how many books I will sell for him

W

One thing for sure, if I want to be his Biggest Fan, I will have no choice but to succeed LOL

Sunny7 · 09-02-2008, 04:56 PM

Prozak
Which book would you recommend first to read, the Natural Health and Weight Loss or the Eat Fat Get thin, i know they probably are both worth reading, but which one would you read first? Next thing is hope i can find them, Barnes and Noble does not carry or cannot order it here in my area anyway.

CarolynF · 09-02-2008, 04:58 PM

I'm not Prozak..but I've been following Barry for years. Get the Natural Health one and you have to order from Canada. EFGT is hard to get and the Natural Health book is an updated version..

Enjoy!

fawn · 09-02-2008, 05:13 PM

I look forward to that one for sure!

SugarFreeSheila · 09-02-2008, 05:38 PM

I would get this one first! You can try the Biblio or Half websites - the former is where I got my copy, straight from Cornwall, England.

I'm so happy for Barry Groves - U.K.'s answer to Dr. Atkins.

jacksmixedtape · 09-02-2008, 05:41 PM

^^Fabulous book! I agree with Sheila. It's such a quick read, too.

Margot 65 · 09-02-2008, 06:06 PM

NH&WL is the updated version of 1999 EFGT. EFGT is hard to find in any case

hummingbird11 · 09-02-2008, 10:05 PM

you can get 'em BOTH (used) at Amazon Marketplace or eBay (I did)

jem51 · 12-03-2008, 10:36 PM

i have both books and they are basically the same. a few little updates in the latter but either one will do. no need to have both. save your $$ for T&T.

pmartin6618 · 12-06-2008, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Margot 65

It is the book that changed my life

Amazon.com: Natural Health & Weight Loss: Barry Groves: Books

Not only that, he knows how to spell FIBRE

Thanx so much for this book... I'm going to Borders today to see if they have his books there.. if not I'll purchase them on Amazon... the look-inside info I read on Amazon in his Natural Health & Weight Loss.. was amazing information.. and has given me even more incentive to continue my journey to a health life and healthy weight.

God Bless.

09-02-2008, 01:41 PM	#1
Margot 65 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,144 Gallery: Margot 65	OMG! Barry Groves fans... he just emailed me and GUESS WHAT!! He has a new BOOK COMING OUT!! I emailed him to ask about NET carbs and told him I of course am a HUGE fan, and that there were several more here at LCF. it wasn't more than a couple hours when he sent me this.. I CANNOT WAIT to see this book!! Hi [my first name] Thanks for writing. I wish there were more like you, lol. Congratulations and well done on the weight loss. The carbs are net carbs; I don't count fibre. (Perhaps I should as even fibre can contain up to 2 calories per gram, but that is not a lot.) I would like to visit lowcarbfriends.com more often. I have been very busy this last year with another book called Trick and Treat, which will be published -- guess when? Yes, the end of next month. Actually it has nothing to do with the American kids extortion with menaces game -- at least you get a choice with that. T&T, subtitled "how 'healthy eating' is making us ill", is about the corruption, fraud and misinformation we, on both sides of the Atlantic, are subjected to so that we are made ill and can be exploited for profit by drug companies, food manufacturers and the 'health industry' generally. T&T is just over 500 pages - the biggest book my publisher has published so far and, she tells me, 'the most readable'. Clarissa Dickson Wright, a British TV food celebrity, has said of it: 'A great book that shatters so many of the nutritional fantasies and fads of the last twenty years. Read it and prolong your life.' Anyway, now that this book is finished, I should have a little more time to look in on you all -- when I've caught up in the garden! Best wishes Barry Author: Natural Health and Weight Loss Co-producer: Be Slim Without Dieting (Video / DVD) Online Nutritional Information and Nutritional Facts - Second Opinions, UK Cure Diabetes with the correct diabetic diet - Diabetes Diet. UK The benefits of high cholesterol - Cholesterol-and-Health.org.uk

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09-02-2008, 02:15 PM	#2
afuentes Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 3,517 Blog Entries: 20 Gallery: afuentes Stats: 190/150/150 WOE: hCG/low carb Start Date: honest restart - 11/20/08	Very cool - looking forward to that.

09-02-2008, 02:32 PM	#3
Charski Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central Coastal CA Posts: 13,331 Gallery: Charski Stats: 174 (WW)/130/150 goal 5'5" 56 years young WOE: ATKINS! now and always.... Start Date: 5/03	Wow, what a nice, personalized reply!

09-02-2008, 02:34 PM	#4
hummingbird11 HB = Healthy & Balanced Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texan w/ Hawaiian Soul loving life in Northern California! :) Posts: 7,579 Gallery: hummingbird11 Stats: 175/149.8/145 ~ (5'8") WOE: Moderate Carb/Low Calorie ~ SEE SIGGY >>>>>>>>>>> Start Date: 1/1/08 + 9/1/09 + Every Day!	Hey Prozak, you should ask him to send you (his biggest fan) a signed copy of his new book! I bet he would! XO, Effexor

09-02-2008, 02:35 PM	#5
nh_mooser Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southwest corner of NH Posts: 947 Gallery: nh_mooser Stats: 208.2/207.6/150 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Restart 9/8/09	Ok, now you've got my curiosity up. What's the first book I should be reading by him? I'm always looking to learn new things about becoming healthy, not just thin.

09-02-2008, 02:38 PM	#6
Margot 65 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,144 Gallery: Margot 65	It is the book that changed my life Amazon.com: Natural Health & Weight Loss: Barry Groves:... Not only that, he knows how to spell FIBRE

09-02-2008, 02:44 PM	#7
nh_mooser Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southwest corner of NH Posts: 947 Gallery: nh_mooser Stats: 208.2/207.6/150 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Restart 9/8/09	Thanks, I'm going to order it. Or, do you think I can get it in a local book store?

09-02-2008, 02:47 PM	#8
Margot 65 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,144 Gallery: Margot 65	I have heard of people having trouble finding it locally.. I had to wait 2 weeks from amazon.ca Your bookstore should be able to order it if you would rather use them than amazon when you pick it up, grab a package of sticky tabs and a highlighter (maybe 2 or 3 different colors too LOL)

09-02-2008, 02:48 PM	#9
LightlyStarched MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,305 Gallery: LightlyStarched WOE: Enig/Fallon "Eat Fat Lose Fat"	Yeah! I can't wait to see the new book. Sounds like it will be similar in tone to GCBC.

09-02-2008, 02:49 PM	#10
whatjelly MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Southwest Washington Posts: 1,324 Blog Entries: 1 Gallery: whatjelly Stats: 225/188/140 WOE: ZC Start Date: back at it: July 2009	Awesome!

09-02-2008, 03:01 PM	#12
CARLINI Thick and Delicious Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Wasatch front Posts: 7,719 Gallery: CARLINI WOE: Atkins Start Date: 02/14/04	I wonder what the main difference is between his plan and Atkins is? I'll need to look into this...

09-02-2008, 03:21 PM	#13
Margot 65 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,144 Gallery: Margot 65	Barry's Plan, check out the EFGT other plans sticky thread: http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/ot...acts-info.html The great thing about the book is it just lays it all out, WHY we are fat and how what we are being to told to do to fix it is ALL WRONG. Check out his website, there is a lot of good stuff there: Online Nutritional Information and Nutritional Facts - Second Opinions, UK My Brother is ONLY 35 and just had cataract surgery, has psoriases AND anklyosing spondylitis AND depression. After years of him suffering I was happy to hear that my brother has now gone GLUTEN FREE. I had sent him the links a few months back and he finally bit the bullet and is giving it a go. He will be eating less carbs too... I should call him and see how he is doing. He never really had much of a weight problem, but neither did my sister who is also gluten intolerant. Neither of them were very health despite their size.

09-02-2008, 03:23 PM	#14
Margot 65 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,144 Gallery: Margot 65	The basic rules for 'Eat Fat Get Thin' (the original UK title of the book) can be found here. It is in that thread only down a few posts: http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/ot...ml#post8990557

09-02-2008, 04:04 PM	#15
CARLINI Thick and Delicious Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Wasatch front Posts: 7,719 Gallery: CARLINI WOE: Atkins Start Date: 02/14/04	Hmmm, to many carbs for me personally. Glad it's working for you tho.

09-02-2008, 04:33 PM	#16
Margot 65 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,144 Gallery: Margot 65	LOL I do nowhere NEAR that many carbs, in fact I do about half of what YOU do. it is not a diet laid out like Atkins with stages and ladders and such.. those are just guidelines. The thing is, people are afraid of 'low carb', afraid of not getting their '5 servings of fruits and veggies' and '10 servings of whole grain' everyday. So many people think of 'low carb' to be an unhealthy way of eating, even a lot of low carbers think we need to have a lot of fruits and veggies and 'some' whole grains to maintain health. The book merely blows the lid off of mainstream thinking. I wish I had read it BEFORE I got pregnant.. I probably wouldn't have gained back my 50lbs (plus almost 30 more) because I thought that eating more carbs was a NECESSITY unless I was trying to lose weight. This book is for the fat, the thin and the too thin... it is for everyone

09-02-2008, 04:52 PM	#17
Sunny7 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 592 Gallery: Sunny7	I just called my local Barnes and Nobles bookstore too see if they carried the Natural Health and Weight Loss, said they didn't and they could not order it either. I will have to check Amazon

09-02-2008, 04:56 PM	#19
Sunny7 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 592 Gallery: Sunny7	Prozak Which book would you recommend first to read, the Natural Health and Weight Loss or the Eat Fat Get thin, i know they probably are both worth reading, but which one would you read first? Next thing is hope i can find them, Barnes and Noble does not carry or cannot order it here in my area anyway.

09-02-2008, 04:58 PM	#20
CarolynF Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 23,531 Gallery: CarolynF Stats: 195/151/139 WOE: Eat Fat, Get Thin/I Can Make You Thin Start Date: January 2001	I'm not Prozak..but I've been following Barry for years. Get the Natural Health one and you have to order from Canada. EFGT is hard to get and the Natural Health book is an updated version.. Enjoy!

09-02-2008, 05:13 PM	#21
fawn Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12,209 Gallery: fawn Stats: sz 18/4 WOE: Whole organic, free range, wild caught, pastured Start Date: February 7, 2000	I look forward to that one for sure!

09-02-2008, 05:38 PM	#22
SugarFreeSheila I'm here to help! Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,133 Gallery: SugarFreeSheila Stats: 141 to 109 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 2001	I would get this one first! You can try the Biblio or Half websites - the former is where I got my copy, straight from Cornwall, England. I'm so happy for Barry Groves - U.K.'s answer to Dr. Atkins.

09-02-2008, 05:41 PM	#23
jacksmixedtape Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: going to school in NC Posts: 3,422 Gallery: jacksmixedtape Stats: 160/140ish, 5'11" WOE: gluten-free whole foods Start Date: May 2007	^^Fabulous book! I agree with Sheila. It's such a quick read, too.

09-02-2008, 06:06 PM	#24
Margot 65 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,144 Gallery: Margot 65	NH&WL is the updated version of 1999 EFGT. EFGT is hard to find in any case

09-02-2008, 10:05 PM	#25
hummingbird11 HB = Healthy & Balanced Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texan w/ Hawaiian Soul loving life in Northern California! :) Posts: 7,579 Gallery: hummingbird11 Stats: 175/149.8/145 ~ (5'8") WOE: Moderate Carb/Low Calorie ~ SEE SIGGY >>>>>>>>>>> Start Date: 1/1/08 + 9/1/09 + Every Day!	you can get 'em BOTH (used) at Amazon Marketplace or eBay (I did)

12-03-2008, 10:36 PM	#26
jem51 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: south central OR Posts: 2,452 Gallery: jem51 Stats: oh so happy at 120 WOE: EFGT Start Date: controlled carb '97-98	i have both books and they are basically the same. a few little updates in the latter but either one will do. no need to have both. save your $$ for T&T.