Diabetes/Metabolism Miracle?

[Dee744]

My DH just became pre- diabetic and works a crazy schedule of 30 days on/off as he has to eat on the boat. I have been looking at this thinking it is not as strict as 20gr lc and he would be eating a little something often and may help even out his numbers. He does need to lose about 30 lbs.

Have any of you done this program and did your numbers get better? Did you also lose any weight? Spikes, hypos? Thanks in advance.

[Dee744]

I guess after 92 views no one has read The Diabetes Miracle and can assist. Thanks for looking though.

[ravenrose]

anything that bills itself a "miracle" makes me suspicious immediately. there is no secret here, and no miracles. no reason he couldn't try a moderate carb level like 40 grams a day and eating more often...

on the other hand, there is a reason people prefer the Atkins plan overwhelmingly, even though induction is hard. you lose fast at first which is very motivating and you adapt your body to burning fat so your hunger levels drop a lot.

[Dee744]

Thanks, that really is what it is, and is geared to diabetics for more even sugar levels through out the day. Weight loss will be slower but seems to be more livable. Will let ya know.

[NineOhNine]

The best way to keep blood sugar level, IMO, is to limit carbohydrates and eat regular meals with adequate protein and fat. Eating frequently just encourages insulin production.

[JayLynn]

Originally Posted by NineOhNine

The best way to keep blood sugar level, IMO, is to limit carbohydrates and eat regular meals with adequate protein and fat. Eating frequently just encourages insulin production.

Just curious as to what a meal with adequate protein and fat should be.

Bacon and eggs? Tuna with mayo? Bunless cheeseburger?

I keep reading how fat is beneficial to lowering blood sugar...what else is good besides coconut or olive oil? and how much?

[Vilya]

I eat all 3 of those foods, JayLynn!

I get about 70% of my calories from fat; all kinds. I do stay away from vegetable oils (canola, corn, soybean, etc.). If I use oil, it's coconut or olive.

My general rule of thumb is to eat things that have more fat than protein.

[cbryson602]

I have followed Metabolism Miracle/Diabetes Miracle since 2009. The results have been amazing as I was unable to lose weight on any other plan I tried (Weight Watchers, South Beach, ADA) ... The plan is so easy to become your lifestyle, not just a "diet." Not only did I lose weight and inches (down two sizes), but my triglycerides went down nearly 100 points, my A1c dropped below 6.0 and has stayed there, and my cholesterol numbers greatly improved. I have gone off of blood pressure medication and cholesterol medication during that time, and I attribute it all to Diabetes Miracle. Yes, it truly is a miracle. Run, don't walk, to buy the book and get started!!!

[MLindaG]

I've been following the Metabolism Miracle since July 2009........My blood sugar has gone from 114, 110 to 98 in 8 weeks and my most recent was 83 - this is 3 years later. I lost 47 lbs. My good and bad cholesterols are in the good level for both now. It is a easy way of eating. You lose all your cravings for sweets. Join miracle ville and you get advice right from the author of the book Diane Kress. Great program which really works. My dh has lost 42 lbs and looks the best he's looked in 20 years. I never thought I would be able to make such a difference in my life in my late 50's. I had all but given up. Read the book - see if it seems like you and then make the committment to feel the best you've felt in YEARS! That is what I think the true miracle is......I feel so much better! Good luck! I have stopped being prediabetic with NO Drugs!

[Dee744]

Thanks, have read the book and joined miracle ville to get questions answered and finally started today. I can see after many years of atkins/Sb, my own plan etc this program is very livable. Both DH and myself have around 30 to lose, but that is secondary to getting our blood sugars down, we are both at the pre- diabetic stage and hope to not become full blown on meds diabetics.

It is nice to hear so many good results on lipids and BS but most who follow it. How did you both do on step 2? Is the carb increase enough to ignite cravings for you guys?

All of the lc programs work you just have to be able to "live" it and that is where i never could last long term.

[Dee744]

Since my fasting have been coming up as well, I decided to start before he gets back, day 5 and fasting BS is coming down steadily and down 1 lb. I am especially impressed that the every 4-5 hr eat something works very well. I did the overnight snacks when I woke up last night and this morning BS was 98, So far loving this program.
I can see how some posters above have made it their lifestyle and so far making a believer out of me. And that with bread and V-8 juice every morning and a few Hershey's kisses to boot and a larger veg selection at meals, yeah I'm liking it!

[Liz1959]

Dee, I'm reading the Diabetes Miracle now. I'm sure I will be recommending it to friends. She explains things very well. I haven't gotten to the "plan" yet, and I'm fine with low carb anyway.
She makes it easy to see that this has been going on most of your life, and why.

[Dee744]

Hi Liz, I am a nurse and have learned a ton about diabetes from her. My mom was a major insulin dependent diabetic and she followed the ADA and WW and she died at 70 from complications and taking huge amounts of insulin. I thought I knew a lot but see medicine does not teach this.

Now that my numbers are creeping up I knew I had to do something and for my DH too I am on day 6 and my fastings are coming down and have lost a pound. the weight loss will be slow but steady more concerned about keeping diabetes at bay.

[Liz1959]

Hi Dee,
It seems her Step1 is pretty basic low carb.
I like her emphasis on the 5 hour rule, but I haven't found any mention of the "dawn effect". I guess this is covered in the "eat within an hour of waking...or the "Chinese Restaurant effect".
I read Step 2 last night and was a little overwhelmed with the mandatory carbs.
I think her plan is more livable for those who really miss the carbs, or those who exercise a lot.
Exercise IS key, but that doesn't mean we do it.
I wish she discussed protein and fat more.
I probably won't do her plan, but I have some carb addict, and diabetic, and pre-diabetic friends that I will reccomend it to.
I think the title was a poor choice since the best time to read the book is before you have diabetes!
Keep us updated us on your results!

[lowcarb]

I have been on it a week and feel much better already. I have kept my weight off for over 10 years until recently menopausal symptoms, so I grabbed her book after saw the reviews on amazon.

[Doggygirl]

Originally Posted by Dee744

Hi Liz, I am a nurse and have learned a ton about diabetes from her. My mom was a major insulin dependent diabetic and she followed the ADA and WW and she died at 70 from complications and taking huge amounts of insulin. I thought I knew a lot but see medicine does not teach this.

Now that my numbers are creeping up I knew I had to do something and for my DH too I am on day 6 and my fastings are coming down and have lost a pound. the weight loss will be slow but steady more concerned about keeping diabetes at bay.

I'm really glad I found this thread! Dee, my Dad just passed away in July of horrible diabetes complications. The last several years of his life were sheer torture for him and also my Mom trying to take care of him. I am so scared about my own blood sugars due to (obviously!) genetics.

I have a BG meter but hadn't used it in a while. Lately I've been testing and have been scared to death by the numbers I'm seeing. Not diabetic, but somewhere between Metabolic syndrome and pre-diabetic.

Anyway....based on your comments I downloaded this book last night to my kindle. I was so relieved to read an understandable explanation of what has been happening to me! The symptoms and the causes are all laid out. The missing piece for me was really understanding what is happening with my insulin. I was "fooled" by some LOW BG readings a couple years ago. I can now see that was a point where insulin was just over doing it's job, and the cycle of insane blood sugars was underway.

I have been really struggling to get back to an LC life. The described cravings and insatiable hunger fit me to a tee. I'm very curious to read on about her meal timing ideas. I'm not sure if I will try to follow her food plan but if nothing else, I have learned a lot more about my own body by reading this, and I'm hoping I pick up some good information that will help me get back on the LC bus and stay there!

Originally Posted by lowcarb

I have been on it a week and feel much better already. I have kept my weight off for over 10 years until recently menopausal symptoms, so I grabbed her book after saw the reviews on amazon.

I hope you will keep posting back here along with Dee and let us know how it's going.

DG

[BABSY]

Did yall notice that the two posters only had one post each?

[Dee744]

Originally Posted by BABSY

Did yall notice that the two posters only had one post each?

Maybe they have been lurking and found something to they felt the need to respond to. I have on several forums. Doesn't mean I am a troll, or signed up to start an agenda.
Frankly i posted this as I asked if anyone had read it and what they thought and got a number of less than helpful responses and pm's. Folks if you don't have anything nice to add, then don't.
Everyone's journey is not the same and new info becomes available all the time, open your mind and you might actually learn something.

[Dee744]

Originally Posted by Liz1959

Hi Dee,
It seems her Step1 is pretty basic low carb.
I like her emphasis on the 5 hour rule, but I haven't found any mention of the "dawn effect". I guess this is covered in the "eat within an hour of waking...or the "Chinese Restaurant effect".
I read Step 2 last night and was a little overwhelmed with the mandatory carbs.
I think her plan is more livable for those who really miss the carbs, or those who exercise a lot.
Exercise IS key, but that doesn't mean we do it.
I wish she discussed protein and fat more.
I probably won't do her plan, but I have some carb addict, and diabetic, and pre-diabetic friends that I will reccomend it to.
I think the title was a poor choice since the best time to read the book is before you have diabetes!
Keep us updated us on your results!

Liz, the 5 hr thing is the livers timing of feeding your body glycogen if you have not eaten, particularly overnight. I was doing very well until yesterday company and out to dinner etc. But i did learn that in the week on program my BS numbers were lower and remained pretty consistent. And my meter readings were more like a normal person.

4 nights in a row if I woke up i had a small snack and low and behold morning fasting were much lower! Shock! So that addresses the Dawn effect.

On her site folks talk about more fats/protein, I still eat higher fat and am not going to worry about it. Too much protein can raise bs, fat not so much. I am not sure lower fat lets you burn more fat, but.... it has been working for her patients. So will see as I go along.

So yes it is a different approach and is basically a lower carb plan in the beginning. i read the whole book but am only concentrating on step one as I think I need to be there for a while, I want to lose 30 lbs. But maybe just maybe i can stop diabetes before I become full on diabetic. May we all reach our own goals how suits us best.

[Dee744]

Originally Posted by ravenrose

anything that bills itself a "miracle" makes me suspicious immediately. there is no secret here, and no miracles. no reason he couldn't try a moderate carb level like 40 grams a day and eating more often...

on the other hand, there is a reason people prefer the Atkins plan overwhelmingly, even though induction is hard. you lose fast at first which is very motivating and you adapt your body to burning fat so your hunger levels drop a lot.

I just realized that her patients picked the name as it was a miracle for them. She has been in practice for 30 years as a diabetes educator and became a diabetic herself in spite of ADA etc and started more on the research side to find something that worked for her and her patients. Not an endorsement just how it came to be.

[Low-Carb Chicklady]

Originally Posted by BABSY

Did yall notice that the two posters only had one post each?

It was the 1st thing I noticed....

[Dee744]

Originally Posted by Low-Carb Chicklady

It was the 1st thing I noticed....

From your other post about just dx'd really. You may wish to read her book to get it back under control. Or Bernsteins and diabetes 101 site for more info.

[Low-Carb Chicklady]

Originally Posted by Dee744

From your other post about just dx'd really. You may wish to read her book to get it back under control. Or Bernsteins and diabetes 101 site for more info.

I think I've heard of Bernstein. At my age, I forget more than I remember Anyway, I wasn't comentingon the book....but on people who only post what seems a sales pitch and disappear.
I don't know if LC is the way to go as I also have gout.
I hate getting older.

[Dee744]

I can relate on the getting older Did not mean to be negative, just been getting shall I say not an open mind in my request for information. Kind of surprised me here.

I have been doing her program for about 8-12 days now and not losing weight I don't think yet, ( have not got on a scale) but do have to say my numbers are coming down and staying more consistent and the plan is not as restrictive as say Atkins at least I can see I could live on it and it is the first 8 weeks that are more restricted.
Pick up the Metabolism Miracle from the library and see what you think, very close to Diabetes Miracle in plan and it's an easy read compared to Bernstein's and not as overwhelming. Becoming diabetic is overwhelming enough!

[piratejenny]

I'm actually pretty interested but my library doesn't have her book.

Could you give a basic outline of what the plan is?
I can't find much info online, and one has to register to see the "miracleville" website.

[Low-Carb Chicklady]

Originally Posted by Dee744

I can relate on the getting older Did not mean to be negative, just been getting shall I say not an open mind in my request for information. Kind of surprised me here.

I have been doing her program for about 8-12 days now and not losing weight I don't think yet, ( have not got on a scale) but do have to say my numbers are coming down and staying more consistent and the plan is not as restrictive as say Atkins at least I can see I could live on it and it is the first 8 weeks that are more restricted.
Pick up the Metabolism Miracle from the library and see what you think, very close to Diabetes Miracle in plan and it's an easy read compared to Bernstein's and not as overwhelming. Becoming diabetic is overwhelming enough!

I've been reading the reviews at Amazon. Quite the mixed bag!

[Low-Carb Chicklady]

Originally Posted by Dee744

I can relate on the getting older Did not mean to be negative, just been getting shall I say not an open mind in my request for information. Kind of surprised me here.

I have been doing her program for about 8-12 days now and not losing weight I don't think yet, ( have not got on a scale) but do have to say my numbers are coming down and staying more consistent and the plan is not as restrictive as say Atkins at least I can see I could live on it and it is the first 8 weeks that are more restricted.
Pick up the Metabolism Miracle from the library and see what you think, very close to Diabetes Miracle in plan and it's an easy read compared to Bernstein's and not as overwhelming. Becoming diabetic is overwhelming enough!

BTW, I think I read Berstein when my mind was still functioning

[piratejenny]

All right, her website is "exclusive" and costs $4/month...worth it, I am sure, but not ready to commit just yet; however, I just found her wordpress site and am very impressed with some of the articles I've read!

I've been feeling a little lost the last couple weeks; not on any real plan to speak of, because nothing's really been working; some of them have even caused insomnia. I think I'll order her book!

Dee, if you wouldn't mind, I'd still like a little info about Step 1; I gather people have to eat every 5 hours? TIA!

[Dee744]

Originally Posted by Low-Carb Chicklady

BTW, I think I read Berstein when my mind was still functioning

Agree Bernstein was overwhelming and I am a nurse and was too much for me at that time. Right now just trying to keep it simple.

[Dee744]

Originally Posted by piratejenny

All right, her website is "exclusive" and costs $4/month...worth it, I am sure, but not ready to commit just yet; however, I just found her wordpress site and am very impressed with some of the articles I've read!

I've been feeling a little lost the last couple weeks; not on any real plan to speak of, because nothing's really been working; some of them have even caused insomnia. I think I'll order her book!

Dee, if you wouldn't mind, I'd still like a little info about Step 1; I gather people have to eat every 5 hours? TIA!

Hi, Jenny it is tough to explain you almost have to get the book, I joined the site for one month to get it firmed up in my mind, just expired and price went up a buck. But will do another month.But I must say the videos helped a lot. Worth it for a month or two until you really understand the program. But read the book first.

Step one you get a list to eat from, no counting carbs unless you opt to have what she calls a counter at each meal and night snack or overnight snack if you wake up. It's in the book. and a printable one on her site.

Here is my day yesterday:

scrambled eggs/cheese with one slice wheat toast and 4 oz V-8 juice.
snacks are nuts, cheese, vegs etc.
Or I have a protein smoothie, syntrax nectar or Jay Robbs with almond milk.

i don't eat lunch usually but could have a "counter" wrap sandwich.
Dinner, my usual meat, vegs salad
evening snack Ricotta with dash of sour cream,Davincis flavor or cappelas, sweetener. Or jello.
Overnight I keep nuts, or 2 hershey kisses etc and eat if I wake up.

It is LC low glycemic and she prefers low fat, I don't so I still use full fat items. And exercise several times a week. Just keep moving muscles no big deal. Walk, garden etc. She really does help me understand why labels for LC stuff are not what they seem, net carbs etc.

If you are diabetic or pre the reasoning to eat every 4-5 hours is to keep the liver from dumping glycogen as it will release more in carb terms than you would generally eat, one of the reasons for high fasting numbers in the morning. And helps keep BS levels normalized. Seem counter but it works.

If you have been eating LC it won't be a lot of new info for you, but if diabetic she explains things very well and easy to understand the why's of her program. while I don't agree on everything I must say that my numbers sure are better and the weight will come off just more slowly, but will come off.
Her site was free but the misinformation was getting out of hand so she went pay so she can answer the questions correctly. The book is worth the bucks and even if you never do the plan you will learn things about diabetes and liver/pancreas function you didn't know.