From Centuries, to Decades and on to Goal--2009 part 2 - Page 15

Teresa123 · 08-17-2009, 07:34 PM

Good luck Lisa!! What do you mean you don't like desserts?? I know you better than that!

Kim, I think you should apply anyway...can't hurt and you shouldn't be disqualified just because you are volunteering your time to help with organizing things.

Teresa123 · 08-17-2009, 07:36 PM

So Kim--can you afford to take a 2 week vacation in March? Since you already have a ticket, and it sounds like Lisa might be there early too---maybe you guys can just find a cheap hotel and party for a week before the cruise! Gosh, that would be fun!!

Teresa123 · 08-17-2009, 07:57 PM

Well ladies, thanks for keeping me entertained tonight! I'm going to go read a magazine (my mom sent me home with like 20 of them

) and go sleepies!.

Night!

lcq · 08-17-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Teresa123

Good luck Lisa!! What do you mean you don't like desserts?? I know you better than that!

I never said I don't like desserts .......they just don't tempt me..........I rather eat some good BBQ over a dessert.......even chocolate.

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Originally Posted by Teresa123

So Kim--can you afford to take a 2 week vacation in March? Since you already have a ticket, and it sounds like Lisa might be there early too---maybe you guys can just find a cheap hotel and party for a week before the cruise! Gosh, that would be fun!!

hey I am only there a couple of days before the cruise...where did you get a week.............but honestly if it were not for my son and hubby I would have spent a longer time though

realityjunkee · 08-18-2009, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lcq

I never said I don't like desserts .......they just don't tempt me..........I rather eat some good BBQ over a dessert.......even chocolate.

hey I am only there a couple of days before the cruise...where did you get a week.............but honestly if it were not for my son and hubby I would have spent a longer time though

I like desserts too, but I'd rather have real food as well. My vice is junk. Chips and breaded fried foods. Cookies would be my favorite dessert and it's hard to make a good LC one so I try to avoid them.

I couldn't afford to stay in Florida the week before the cruise but right now I'm just waiting. I'll have the money to re-book the flight in September so I'll look at it then.

Teresa123 · 08-18-2009, 06:39 AM

What is this talk of 'real food' vs dessert? Holy cow I eat both!

Actually, my desserts are real food though and most are probably more nutritious than many folks, low carb or not, eat for their 'real food!'

Morning! It's Tuesday, it's crazy, and I have tons to do. BBL hopefully!

vee716 · 08-18-2009, 07:18 AM

Morning everyone!

All this cruise talk is making me jealous. I'm not going to be able to go I don't think, but it sounds like fun.

Things are going well, I wasn't feeling very bloated from my carbup yesterday morning, but it seems to have been growing since. I'm feeling fairly gassy and a little bloated. I might not get the number I wanted on the scale tomorrow. Oh, well. I'm on track with calories for the week, so whether the scale agrees with me or not, I did well this week.

Teresa - that recipe looks good. I made one of my Carbquik brownies yesterday, sometimes you just need a good chocolatey dessert.

Kim - way to go on losing the vacation weight!

Lisa - I'm glad induction is going well, but I think you are nuts - I'd take sweets over BBQ any day!

Teresa123 · 08-18-2009, 03:06 PM

Val--you should come on the cruise--it will be a blast!! CQ brownie...yum, that sounds good.

I don't think I've used my CQ for a long time, so maybe I'll have to make a little treat with it sometime this week. TOM is coming soon so one of those brownies might just hit the spot!!

So, just got done with my ps consult. God, why didn't I find this guy before.

It was such a totally different experience, and his plan for me is not at all what I was thinking--but I like it--if I can afford it. I will have the price quotes sometime by the end of the week. I now remember why my very first binge in my life--I mean the first one EVER, was right after my first ps consult. I don't know why but it's such an emotional experience for me...and this one was no different---especially considering I think I will be re-doing the whole tt just so that everything else will fall in line. If I were made of money and vacation time that would be fine---but there is only so much I can do and basically re-doing everything just pisses me off so much. Val--you will be jealous though--if I go with his plan (which I will if I can afford it) I will be having a circumfrontial (have no idea on the spelling) tt which basically includes a butt lift!! Anyway, this guy is good, and I really liked him and his approach makes so much sense....sigh....so now I just have to wait and see if his price range is anything I can comfortably afford to finance or not. And--it's going to require patience because he kind of does it like putting together a puzzle and each thing builds off the next---and there are a lot of steps---which equals a lot of time and money. But hey, after a very thorough examine and going over a ton of stuff--I figured out that I am actually thin under all this skin.....and that I can lose all I want to but I will never look (or feel) thin if I don't get rid of it. No---he didn't say that at all---but it was quite clear after we were done. Uggg--so much to think about. But, I won't binge about it.

vee716 · 08-18-2009, 03:45 PM

Teresa, when you say he's does it like a puzzle with lots of time, does that mean he does it piecemeal, or is it one big surgery? I think, in the end, if I do the butt lift, it will end up being the same as doing a circumfrontial, the front was the tummy tuck, the back will be the butt lift.

I'm *really* happy you like this guy. I hope you can swing it financially, it really does make such a difference, doesn't it, having the skin gone. You've kept the weight off for a while now, you know you can keep it off, you might as well get rid of the skin, you've got too many years left of life to enjoy your new weight to not do it if you can.

Teresa123 · 08-18-2009, 03:59 PM

It will be several procedures--first the circumfrontial (I really need to look that up--at least to learn how to spell it!) as well as a revision and tightening to the vertical incision and he will try to construct a belly button (current one is barely there and weird) but there may be too much scar tissue for that, not sure. He will also do lipo (which I've never had before) on the flanks and outer thighs so when he pulls up the skin during the circum thingy it will have the best result. There will also be a pubic lift

and lipo to the area where the vertical meets at the top (around my sternum).......all of that in the first procedure. 2nd one will be the thighs. After the circumfrontial there will be a bit more excess skin on the front and inner thighs---this is where he drew pictures and explained how the skin lies and how the first procedure will affect other things, and actually each one impacts another area which is why he does them in a certain order and does things to basically prep the next area in the procedure before---which is why he does not do the inner thighs with the first procedure in order to get a better result. 3rd procedure will be a reverse upper lift which will lift the girls (and possibly some 'enhancements' if I win the lottery!), remove the excess skin to the sides of my breast as well as some from my upper back and probably an arm lift--although that might have to be a separate 4th procedure. Last will be the chin. I'm estimating at least another 2 years minimum due to healing time in between--at least--and although I have no idea on prices I would guess the whole shabang will probably total to at least 60 grand once you consider surgical center fees, anesthisiologist fees, surgeon fees, etc..... Good grief--will I ever stop paying for being fat?!

lcq · 08-18-2009, 04:48 PM

Teresa - you know what.......I am so freaking happy you found this guy

and I would take a bloody loan if that it what was required so I could finally be closer to being at peace with me

.........just think by the tiome he removes all you say he will you might weigh 125lbs..now wouldn't that be awesome

..........did I tell yo how happy I am for you

Val - I would never eat sweets over BBQ.............guess who is BBQing tonight

Kim - if you are a praying person, pray I win that essay competition and you will have all your cruise money back into your bank account

Today has not been a very hungry day for me..........I have decided I am only eating on my body's cue's and the body aint hungry...........................must be feeding off all the carbs stored in my system

Teresa123 · 08-18-2009, 05:10 PM

Thanks Lisa--I do think he is an answer to prayer.

I just hate regretting the 20 grand I've already spent and I'm scared to see the price if it ends up that even with loans I can't swing it.....but hopefully it will be do-able! Where there's a will, there's a way.

realityjunkee · 08-18-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lcq

Teresa - you know what.......I am so freaking happy you found this guy

and I would take a bloody loan if that it what was required so I could finally be closer to being at peace with me

.........just think by the tiome he removes all you say he will you might weigh 125lbs..now wouldn't that be awesome

..........did I tell yo how happy I am for you

Val - I would never eat sweets over BBQ.............guess who is BBQing tonight

Kim - if you are a praying person, pray I win that essay competition and you will have all your cruise money back into your bank account

Today has not been a very hungry day for me..........I have decided I am only eating on my body's cue's and the body aint hungry...........................must be feeding off all the carbs stored in my system

Oh, I'll pray for you both alright...but Lisa, I could never expect you to do that! You are coming from a foreign country for gosh sakes...u need it more than me. I will manage, although I wouldn't argue if you wanted to buy me dinner...

RavenG · 08-19-2009, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Teresa123

It will be several procedures--first the circumfrontial (I really need to look that up--at least to learn how to spell it!) as well as a revision and tightening to the vertical incision and he will try to construct a belly button (current one is barely there and weird) but there may be too much scar tissue for that, not sure. He will also do lipo (which I've never had before) on the flanks and outer thighs so when he pulls up the skin during the circum thingy it will have the best result. There will also be a pubic lift

and lipo to the area where the vertical meets at the top (around my sternum).......all of that in the first procedure. 2nd one will be the thighs. After the circumfrontial there will be a bit more excess skin on the front and inner thighs---this is where he drew pictures and explained how the skin lies and how the first procedure will affect other things, and actually each one impacts another area which is why he does them in a certain order and does things to basically prep the next area in the procedure before---which is why he does not do the inner thighs with the first procedure in order to get a better result. 3rd procedure will be a reverse upper lift which will lift the girls (and possibly some 'enhancements' if I win the lottery!), remove the excess skin to the sides of my breast as well as some from my upper back and probably an arm lift--although that might have to be a separate 4th procedure. Last will be the chin. I'm estimating at least another 2 years minimum due to healing time in between--at least--and although I have no idea on prices I would guess the whole shabang will probably total to at least 60 grand once you consider surgical center fees, anesthisiologist fees, surgeon fees, etc..... Good grief--will I ever stop paying for being fat?!

Teresa - Is it like a Lower Body Lift where the incision basically goes all the way around the body and they remove the excess skin and stretch the remaining skin down from the top and up from the bottom and stitch you back together? I had thought about that procedure but decided that my main/major complaint/problem is just my gut and my PS didn't think I needed anything more than that. I'll definitely be doing a breast reduction at some point in the future but my PS won't do both at once. He said he can get a much better result if he does them separately because he won't have to worry about blood flow and can pull my stomach really tight.

Teresa123 · 08-19-2009, 06:17 AM

Morning--Happy Hump Day!

WI 149.3 which is up 1.2. I knew the weekend was going to catch up with me.

But in my defense--who serves fruity cocktails and has a chocolate fountain at a Mary Kay party?!?

Lisa---yeah, I think it's one of the main components in a lower body lift except I won't need the full tt and he won't do the inner thighs on this round. Your Dr is very wise on doing the breasts after I have found out--as doing them before or at the same time can compromise the overall appearance and tightness of the tt. It works great for people who are just in need of a "mommy tuck" but not for peeps like me.

Hopefully your Dr is good. The 2 consults I had prior to my first surgery also said that I didn't need most of this other stuff either--but they were wrong. Although I guess maybe their definition of 'need' and mine might be two different things!

Another long day. I've already been here over an hour though and only a few questions/problems so maybe things are settling down here....maybe.

Have a nice day ladies!

vee716 · 08-19-2009, 07:31 AM

The scale is not being nice to me today. 162.6 lbs this morning. I'm *not* claiming it. I've been spot on with my diet this week, so it has to be water retention. If I'm still off the pace next week, I'll claim it then, but for now I'm going to stick my head in the sand and pretend I didn't see that number this morning.

Stupid scale.

All this plastic surgery talk has me looking at my body and wondering more about a butt lift. I really do need it, but there is still lots of fat there, too, so not yet. Seeing as I'm trying to lose more weight, I'm going to wait and see what it looks like when I'm done and then decide. If I won the lottery, I'd get a breast enhancement, too Teresa. I actually had a breast reduction done in 2001 after I had lost a lot of weight. Then I regained a lot of weight and then lost it again. So my breasts puffed up and then deflated again, but they got smaller as well with the big weight loss. So, now I need a small enhancement to fill them out. It's not drastic though, so I'm sure I'll never do it, but if money were no object? In a heartbeat! LOL!

lcq · 08-19-2009, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Teresa123

Thanks Lisa--I do think he is an answer to prayer.

I just hate regretting the 20 grand I've already spent and I'm scared to see the price if it ends up that even with loans I can't swing it.....but hopefully it will be do-able! Where there's a will, there's a way.

Teresa - Yes my friend....where there is a will there is a way

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Originally Posted by realityjunkee

Oh, I'll pray for you both alright...but Lisa, I could never expect you to do that! You are coming from a foreign country for gosh sakes...u need it more than me. I will manage, although I wouldn't argue if you wanted to buy me dinner...

Kim - with me ALWAYS expect the unexpected

Val - this is for your scale....gun.gif.........

Teresa123 · 08-19-2009, 04:43 PM

Val--darn scale! Good thing you don't have to look at it for another week, at which point it better be nice or Lisa will take it out for you.

I'm the same on the enhancement thing. It would be nice but it's truly just a vanity thing for me. I want to get the serious issues taken care of first--anything else would just be a little bonus!

But I seriously need to start buying some lottery tickets--or at the very least when I go to the casino I need to start playing something a with a little more possible 'profitability' than the penny machines!

Lisa--so where are you at with induction and when does it end? And, what is your plan after---are you going to 'climb the ladder' or just continue with induction? Inquiring minds want to know.

Kim--how are you doing with induction? Any plans for the next step or just keep doing what you're doing as long as it's working? Is work getting any better?

Kathy--where are you?

If I remember correctly your kids were starting back to school today. How did Spencer do? Did he love it? Did you get started back with the athletical plan today?

Well, I have eaten way too much today so I really need to pull it together tomorrow. I also had way too many carbs. All things I sometimes eat--but not all of them in the same day.

Like breakfast was a banana w/pb and oatmeal with raisins--yikes!

But I was in a definite 'I don't care' mood today. Not as bad as an 'f-it' attitude so I'm glad, but I really would like to lose 5-10 more lbs before surgery--assuming I have it--so I need to get my buns in gear like right now.

So--I have no planned holidays or weddings or weekends away or anything coming up where I plan to indulge a bit--so my plan is to stay on the straight and narrow until I get below 145. If I don't--please kick my butt.

realityjunkee · 08-19-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lcq

Kim - with me ALWAYS expect the unexpected

That's why I love you girl!

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Originally Posted by Teresa123

Kim--how are you doing with induction? Any plans for the next step or just keep doing what you're doing as long as it's working? Is work getting any better?

I'm doing good! I think for now I'm going to continue on, I'm kinda in the zone right now. If I can do this for awhile and get things jumpstarted again I'm going to feel better. I just need to figure out how to do this most days and be able to have a higher cal/fat/good carb day once in awhile instead of weeks on end!

today I had:

Turkey with butter/pepper
1/2 c chicken fajita meat with peppers,onion, lettuce, salsa, sour cream
2 eggs, 4 bacon and herbed fresh tomatoes

lcq · 08-19-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Teresa123

Lisa--so where are you at with induction and when does it end? And, what is your plan after---are you going to 'climb the ladder' or just continue with induction? Inquiring minds want to know.........................I really would like to lose 5-10 more lbs before surgery--assuming I have it--so I need to get my buns in gear like right now. .................so my plan is to stay on the straight and narrow until I get below 145. If I don't--please kick my butt.

Teresa - truth be told.............I am doing my own thing presently...........I have not been really eating veggies ( but i actually felt for them today) and I want to make almond/flax crackers soon so that I can eat with chicken/tuna salad...( yes! I finallly have a grinder

) ........I have been eating mostly protein and fat....so it is not a 'by the book' induction

I realised when I was in Florida that even tough I allowed myself to have whatever I wanted, somtimes i only ate twice a day............or just grazed on stuff.....no food food.....the only problem was that most of it was NOT Low Carb

................so I came back home and decided to just eat the same way but just legal Low carb stuff

in the past I was so focussed on cals and carbs and getting frustrated......you know that

.......this way feels easy and normal to me.............I am not counting anything but I am keeping a daily food journal............so far the results have been good but it is when the wooshes taper off I will really see how this is working.hopeful.gif

I can see myself eating like this for the long haul........so wish me luck

On another note.............since you said you are ready to get your butt into gear.........I am officially daring you back to slimfinity...where you will have to post you menus daily and weigh weekly............however you get to crack the whip too... so you should enjoy that

..........so the question is.....can you put your money where your mouth iscoolsmiley.gif

Teresa123 · 08-20-2009, 06:54 AM

Ugggg--I hate losing posts!

Anyway--good morning and happy Thursday!

Kim--glad things are going well. The zone is a great place to be!!

Lisa--a DARE?! I love dares.

But, I'll have to think about it and look at the rules. My problem isn't me following the rules--personally I don't join any that I don't think I could do (or I just don't want to do). My frustration is that others rarely follow them and then I get pissed.

In my opinion--if you can't follow them--don't join or get out--period....don't waste everyones time.

And I've rarely--OK never--seen a reason that was good for not following the rules, just lame excuses (my own included).

So all that said, you probably don't want me there cause I would just be pissing everyone off when I got tired of the bs which I have done in the past as you are well aware

However if you have some serious hard core peeps there that actually follow all the rules, every day, without excuse......then that's a whole different story.

Oh--and what do you mean you aren't eating food food??

Are you eating non-food food?

Now I'm kind of scared to see one of your menus!

OK--back to my busy crazy day. I think I'm starting to see a small glimmer....very small....in the distance that maybe means that life will calm down a bit here....maybe....I hope!

kathy76 · 08-20-2009, 06:57 AM

Teresa~ Yes the kids went back to school yesterday...

I didn't cry, but I definitely kept myself busy to keep my mind off it!! I told DH that today was probably going to be worse for me because it is thunderstorming & there is no more laundry to do & the dishes are done, floors are swept....told ya I was busy yesterday. Oh yeah I also went to the grocery & mowed the yard yesterday. Today I have decided to wash the bedding in Spencer's room & clean the bathrooms.

Your PS news is exciting

I still haven't made any appointments to try and get any started for a panniculectomy. I don't know why I keep dragging my feet. I think that without any additional procedures done I am gonna look pregnant around the middle??

I didn't have a good weekend eating wise

& I started TOM on Tuesday so I avoided the scale yesterday because I didn't think that seeing a bad # was gonna help my eating any. I have been doing well with my eating.....again

I did not exercise yesterday....other than working my butt off cleaning. TOM was pretty painful yesterday...... I am going to walk the treadmill today since the weather is not very nice.

It sounds like everyone is doing pretty good

Teresa123 · 08-20-2009, 07:13 AM

It's about time you got back here!

Wow, you could drive to my place and clean--that would keep you busy for a week....or maybe longer.....!

Here's my biggest tip that I wish someone had given me on ps....if you have lost more than 100 lbs (and you have!) make sure your ps has a lot of experience with bariatric patients and/or does gastric bypass reconstruction. There is a world of difference between you and me and someone who just loses 50 lbs---a world of difference---and you really need to find someone who understands how to work with more than just a pouch of excess skin. God--I wish I had understood that when I first started---it would have saved me a lot of money and grief. If there is a hospital in one of the cities around you that does a lot of WLS--call them and find out which ps's they refer their clients to--that's where I'd start if I were to do it all again.

As far as dragging your feet....I understand that too. It is really a big and very personal decision---or at least it was for me. I struggled with the thought that I was putting my life on the line for vanity sake. I struggled with feeling selfish that I was putting all this money into me/my body when there are so many more noble causes out there. I struggled with letting go of the old me--as much as I hated it--there is a comfort level with the body we have always known. So even after I accepted it was the right decision for me so that I could move on with my life---I still struggled with it--and actually still do now. I think it's a lot bigger deal that many people make it out to be...or it is for me anyway.

Hey--maybe our TOM's are going to sync up again soon because mine should start any day now....if the zit on my chin is any indication that is!

lcq · 08-20-2009, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Teresa123

Lisa--a DARE?! I love dares.

But, I'll have to think about it and look at the rules. ........... My frustration is that others rarely follow them and then I get pissed.

In my opinion--if you can't follow them--don't join or get out--period....don't waste everyones time.,,,,,,,,,: And I've rarely--OK never--seen a reason that was good for not following the rules, just lame excuses (my own included).

So all that said, you probably don't want me there cause I would just be pissing everyone off when I got tired of the bs which I have done in the past as you are well aware

However if you have some serious hard core peeps there that actually follow all the rules, every day, without excuse......then that's a whole different story.

Teresa - Take a peek at the Aug09 thread ....and see what you think..........i even pulled out the ole whip today.....felt goooood

Kathy - great to see you girl

...........and now that the kiddies are back in school..........you should be able to come out and play more often right

realityjunkee · 08-20-2009, 05:25 PM

I have an appt Monday with my PCP. I have printed some requirements for another insurance company for a letter of medical necessity for a Panniculectomy/Abdominoplasty, answered all those questions for my doc and will take that with me. As far as I'm concerned I qualify...

Good to see you Kathy!

Teresa123 · 08-20-2009, 05:39 PM

Kim--good deal--how can your PCP argue with you--of course you qualify, the form says so!

I.am.so.tired......could it please be Friday night?! Although I'm sure I will be working all weekend so that doesn't really help me either.... Seriously, it's just after 6:30 pm and I'm totally wiped out and want to go to bed.

I got the quotes today for surgery. The first one is a lot more expensive than I expected....but the 2nd one is a lot cheaper (I only got quotes on the first 2 right now) so overall it's about what I was expecting, actually a bit less. They have 2 dates available in early Oct and then no other open dates until early Dec. I'm excited and hopeful, but trying to not get my hopes up too much because I really don't want to be disappointed again. I looked at lots of before and afters while I was there and seriously had tears in my eyes as I looked at the transformations of these people who looked totally normal (and thin) after the procedures were done...other than some very light scars no evidence of their previous obesity. It's hard for me to even imagine that for myself. So if I have results even close to theirs, I think it will be worth the money, pain, etc. My only problem right now is that my boss---who never limits vacation time---has to right now just because of the new role we have taken on, so he only wants me to take off 2 weeks at a time. The Dr wants me to take a minimum of 3 weeks, preferably 4. If I told my boss what I was doing, he would probably bend and find a way to make it OK---but I really don't want to tell him or anyone else....so not exactly sure what to do. Truly I am a quick healer and have a pretty high tolerance for pain so I'm sure I will be capable of going back at 2 weeks---I just don't want to go back with drains in and the Dr said it's likely they would be in about 2 weeks---so I could be cutting it a little close...... So, I'm not sure how I'm going to deal with all of that yet---but I will figure it out.

Anyway--after lots of thought about it today (in the moments between all the craziness!) I've decided I'm going to call tomorrow and take the Oct 5th surgery date.

I'm also going to get the names and numbers of a few of his patients and contact them this weekend....I'm sure they won't give me anyone that isn't absolutely delighted with their results, but just in case I think I'll feel better if I chat with some of them. Then I can always call and cancel next week if I don't like something that I hear.

lcq · 08-20-2009, 07:09 PM

Kim & Teresa - I am excited for you gals...............I truly pray you are happy with your results at the end of it all

realityjunkee · 08-20-2009, 07:43 PM

Teresa that is great! You will be smoking!

I don't expect fantastic results, but I am not single, I'm not thin and I don't have the money for great results honestly. I will take what I can get and have resigned myself to the fact that I may never have a belly button again...

Teresa123 · 08-20-2009, 08:26 PM

I don't know about smoking--I'm just going for normal! By the time of the cruise I should be 1/4 of the way there--I hope.

Seriously--insist on a belly button--even if it's a bad one like I have!

Have you ever seen someone without one?

It's very freaky...unless you are an alien or maybe a character in a Dr Suess book--then it might be the "in" thing!

You know, the single thing is a big part of it. I want it for me, I want for once in my life to feel good about my body. But honestly--I know that is at least part of the reason I won't even consider a relationship at this point. When I was fat--a guy knew what he was getting. The surprises someone would find under my clothes these days would not be expected--and very frightening!

And last--if insurance had paid for mine, I would be much more OK with the results. Unfortunately I paid out big bucks that I am still paying off--so that also makes the end result much more depressing.

Anyway--make sure the belly button is included in the deal--even if you have to pay a couple extra bucks!

realityjunkee · 08-20-2009, 08:28 PM

LOL! If I were single it would be a BIG deal! But just think what a conversation piece life without a belly button could be! I could tell everyone I was a clone!

08-18-2009, 07:18 AM	#427
vee716 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Oakville, ON CAN Posts: 2,320 Gallery: vee716 Stats: 340high 297/158.6/150 WOE: WLS(1999) - low-carb Start Date: September 5, 2003	Morning everyone! All this cruise talk is making me jealous. I'm not going to be able to go I don't think, but it sounds like fun. Things are going well, I wasn't feeling very bloated from my carbup yesterday morning, but it seems to have been growing since. I'm feeling fairly gassy and a little bloated. I might not get the number I wanted on the scale tomorrow. Oh, well. I'm on track with calories for the week, so whether the scale agrees with me or not, I did well this week. Teresa - that recipe looks good. I made one of my Carbquik brownies yesterday, sometimes you just need a good chocolatey dessert. Kim - way to go on losing the vacation weight! Lisa - I'm glad induction is going well, but I think you are nuts - I'd take sweets over BBQ any day! __________________ Valerie My blog - Find Your Own Weigh

08-18-2009, 04:48 PM	#431
lcq Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 3,825 Blog Entries: 24 Gallery: lcq Stats: 5' 5": 280.6 - 264.8 - 198 WOE: Low carb my way Start Date: 1 Jan 2009	Teresa - you know what.......I am so freaking happy you found this guy and I would take a bloody loan if that it what was required so I could finally be closer to being at peace with me.........just think by the tiome he removes all you say he will you might weigh 125lbs..now wouldn't that be awesome..........did I tell yo how happy I am for you Val - I would never eat sweets over BBQ.............guess who is BBQing tonight Kim - if you are a praying person, pray I win that essay competition and you will have all your cruise money back into your bank account Today has not been a very hungry day for me..........I have decided I am only eating on my body's cue's and the body aint hungry...........................must be feeding off all the carbs stored in my system __________________ *~~LISA ~~* Highest Weight - 293LBS 01JAN09 280.6 FEB09 275.4 MAR09 274 APR09 276.6 MAY09 270.4 JUN09 272.6 JUL09 268.0*AUG09 277.4*SEP09265.8 OCT09*275.2272.3*274.4 From Centuries, to Decades and on to Goal--2009 part 2

08-20-2009, 06:57 AM	#442
kathy76 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NE Indiana Posts: 2,372 Blog Entries: 12 Gallery: kathy76 Stats: (313)282/162.4/155-150 WOE: atkins 5'8 Start Date: 9/19/05	Teresa~ Yes the kids went back to school yesterday... I didn't cry, but I definitely kept myself busy to keep my mind off it!! I told DH that today was probably going to be worse for me because it is thunderstorming & there is no more laundry to do & the dishes are done, floors are swept....told ya I was busy yesterday. Oh yeah I also went to the grocery & mowed the yard yesterday. Today I have decided to wash the bedding in Spencer's room & clean the bathrooms. Your PS news is exciting I still haven't made any appointments to try and get any started for a panniculectomy. I don't know why I keep dragging my feet. I think that without any additional procedures done I am gonna look pregnant around the middle?? I didn't have a good weekend eating wise & I started TOM on Tuesday so I avoided the scale yesterday because I didn't think that seeing a bad # was gonna help my eating any. I have been doing well with my eating.....again I did not exercise yesterday....other than working my butt off cleaning. TOM was pretty painful yesterday...... I am going to walk the treadmill today since the weather is not very nice. It sounds like everyone is doing pretty good Last edited by kathy76; 08-20-2009 at 07:43 AM..

08-20-2009, 05:39 PM	#446
Teresa123 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,041 Blog Entries: 12 Gallery: Teresa123 Stats: 350+/155.5/145 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: Oct 2006	Kim--good deal--how can your PCP argue with you--of course you qualify, the form says so! I.am.so.tired......could it please be Friday night?! Although I'm sure I will be working all weekend so that doesn't really help me either.... Seriously, it's just after 6:30 pm and I'm totally wiped out and want to go to bed. I got the quotes today for surgery. The first one is a lot more expensive than I expected....but the 2nd one is a lot cheaper (I only got quotes on the first 2 right now) so overall it's about what I was expecting, actually a bit less. They have 2 dates available in early Oct and then no other open dates until early Dec. I'm excited and hopeful, but trying to not get my hopes up too much because I really don't want to be disappointed again. I looked at lots of before and afters while I was there and seriously had tears in my eyes as I looked at the transformations of these people who looked totally normal (and thin) after the procedures were done...other than some very light scars no evidence of their previous obesity. It's hard for me to even imagine that for myself. So if I have results even close to theirs, I think it will be worth the money, pain, etc. My only problem right now is that my boss---who never limits vacation time---has to right now just because of the new role we have taken on, so he only wants me to take off 2 weeks at a time. The Dr wants me to take a minimum of 3 weeks, preferably 4. If I told my boss what I was doing, he would probably bend and find a way to make it OK---but I really don't want to tell him or anyone else....so not exactly sure what to do. Truly I am a quick healer and have a pretty high tolerance for pain so I'm sure I will be capable of going back at 2 weeks---I just don't want to go back with drains in and the Dr said it's likely they would be in about 2 weeks---so I could be cutting it a little close...... So, I'm not sure how I'm going to deal with all of that yet---but I will figure it out. Anyway--after lots of thought about it today (in the moments between all the craziness!) I've decided I'm going to call tomorrow and take the Oct 5th surgery date. I'm also going to get the names and numbers of a few of his patients and contact them this weekend....I'm sure they won't give me anyone that isn't absolutely delighted with their results, but just in case I think I'll feel better if I chat with some of them. Then I can always call and cancel next week if I don't like something that I hear. Last edited by Teresa123; 08-20-2009 at 05:42 PM..

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08-17-2009, 07:34 PM	#421
Teresa123 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,041 Blog Entries: 12 Gallery: Teresa123 Stats: 350+/155.5/145 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: Oct 2006	Good luck Lisa!! What do you mean you don't like desserts?? I know you better than that! Kim, I think you should apply anyway...can't hurt and you shouldn't be disqualified just because you are volunteering your time to help with organizing things.

08-17-2009, 07:36 PM	#422
Teresa123 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,041 Blog Entries: 12 Gallery: Teresa123 Stats: 350+/155.5/145 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: Oct 2006	So Kim--can you afford to take a 2 week vacation in March? Since you already have a ticket, and it sounds like Lisa might be there early too---maybe you guys can just find a cheap hotel and party for a week before the cruise! Gosh, that would be fun!!

08-17-2009, 07:57 PM	#423
Teresa123 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,041 Blog Entries: 12 Gallery: Teresa123 Stats: 350+/155.5/145 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: Oct 2006	Well ladies, thanks for keeping me entertained tonight! I'm going to go read a magazine (my mom sent me home with like 20 of them ) and go sleepies!. Night!

08-18-2009, 06:39 AM	#426
Teresa123 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,041 Blog Entries: 12 Gallery: Teresa123 Stats: 350+/155.5/145 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: Oct 2006	What is this talk of 'real food' vs dessert? Holy cow I eat both! Actually, my desserts are real food though and most are probably more nutritious than many folks, low carb or not, eat for their 'real food!' Morning! It's Tuesday, it's crazy, and I have tons to do. BBL hopefully!

08-18-2009, 03:06 PM	#428
Teresa123 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,041 Blog Entries: 12 Gallery: Teresa123 Stats: 350+/155.5/145 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: Oct 2006	Val--you should come on the cruise--it will be a blast!! CQ brownie...yum, that sounds good. I don't think I've used my CQ for a long time, so maybe I'll have to make a little treat with it sometime this week. TOM is coming soon so one of those brownies might just hit the spot!! So, just got done with my ps consult. God, why didn't I find this guy before. It was such a totally different experience, and his plan for me is not at all what I was thinking--but I like it--if I can afford it. I will have the price quotes sometime by the end of the week. I now remember why my very first binge in my life--I mean the first one EVER, was right after my first ps consult. I don't know why but it's such an emotional experience for me...and this one was no different---especially considering I think I will be re-doing the whole tt just so that everything else will fall in line. If I were made of money and vacation time that would be fine---but there is only so much I can do and basically re-doing everything just pisses me off so much. Val--you will be jealous though--if I go with his plan (which I will if I can afford it) I will be having a circumfrontial (have no idea on the spelling) tt which basically includes a butt lift!! Anyway, this guy is good, and I really liked him and his approach makes so much sense....sigh....so now I just have to wait and see if his price range is anything I can comfortably afford to finance or not. And--it's going to require patience because he kind of does it like putting together a puzzle and each thing builds off the next---and there are a lot of steps---which equals a lot of time and money. But hey, after a very thorough examine and going over a ton of stuff--I figured out that I am actually thin under all this skin.....and that I can lose all I want to but I will never look (or feel) thin if I don't get rid of it. No---he didn't say that at all---but it was quite clear after we were done. Uggg--so much to think about. But, I won't binge about it.

08-18-2009, 03:45 PM	#429
vee716 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Oakville, ON CAN Posts: 2,320 Gallery: vee716 Stats: 340high 297/158.6/150 WOE: WLS(1999) - low-carb Start Date: September 5, 2003	Teresa, when you say he's does it like a puzzle with lots of time, does that mean he does it piecemeal, or is it one big surgery? I think, in the end, if I do the butt lift, it will end up being the same as doing a circumfrontial, the front was the tummy tuck, the back will be the butt lift. I'm really happy you like this guy. I hope you can swing it financially, it really does make such a difference, doesn't it, having the skin gone. You've kept the weight off for a while now, you know you can keep it off, you might as well get rid of the skin, you've got too many years left of life to enjoy your new weight to not do it if you can.

08-18-2009, 03:59 PM	#430
Teresa123 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,041 Blog Entries: 12 Gallery: Teresa123 Stats: 350+/155.5/145 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: Oct 2006	It will be several procedures--first the circumfrontial (I really need to look that up--at least to learn how to spell it!) as well as a revision and tightening to the vertical incision and he will try to construct a belly button (current one is barely there and weird) but there may be too much scar tissue for that, not sure. He will also do lipo (which I've never had before) on the flanks and outer thighs so when he pulls up the skin during the circum thingy it will have the best result. There will also be a pubic lift and lipo to the area where the vertical meets at the top (around my sternum).......all of that in the first procedure. 2nd one will be the thighs. After the circumfrontial there will be a bit more excess skin on the front and inner thighs---this is where he drew pictures and explained how the skin lies and how the first procedure will affect other things, and actually each one impacts another area which is why he does them in a certain order and does things to basically prep the next area in the procedure before---which is why he does not do the inner thighs with the first procedure in order to get a better result. 3rd procedure will be a reverse upper lift which will lift the girls (and possibly some 'enhancements' if I win the lottery!), remove the excess skin to the sides of my breast as well as some from my upper back and probably an arm lift--although that might have to be a separate 4th procedure. Last will be the chin. I'm estimating at least another 2 years minimum due to healing time in between--at least--and although I have no idea on prices I would guess the whole shabang will probably total to at least 60 grand once you consider surgical center fees, anesthisiologist fees, surgeon fees, etc..... Good grief--will I ever stop paying for being fat?!

08-18-2009, 05:10 PM	#432
Teresa123 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,041 Blog Entries: 12 Gallery: Teresa123 Stats: 350+/155.5/145 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: Oct 2006	Thanks Lisa--I do think he is an answer to prayer. I just hate regretting the 20 grand I've already spent and I'm scared to see the price if it ends up that even with loans I can't swing it.....but hopefully it will be do-able! Where there's a will, there's a way.

08-19-2009, 06:17 AM	#435
Teresa123 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,041 Blog Entries: 12 Gallery: Teresa123 Stats: 350+/155.5/145 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: Oct 2006	Morning--Happy Hump Day! WI 149.3 which is up 1.2. I knew the weekend was going to catch up with me. But in my defense--who serves fruity cocktails and has a chocolate fountain at a Mary Kay party?!? Lisa---yeah, I think it's one of the main components in a lower body lift except I won't need the full tt and he won't do the inner thighs on this round. Your Dr is very wise on doing the breasts after I have found out--as doing them before or at the same time can compromise the overall appearance and tightness of the tt. It works great for people who are just in need of a "mommy tuck" but not for peeps like me. Hopefully your Dr is good. The 2 consults I had prior to my first surgery also said that I didn't need most of this other stuff either--but they were wrong. Although I guess maybe their definition of 'need' and mine might be two different things! Another long day. I've already been here over an hour though and only a few questions/problems so maybe things are settling down here....maybe. Have a nice day ladies!

08-19-2009, 07:31 AM	#436
vee716 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Oakville, ON CAN Posts: 2,320 Gallery: vee716 Stats: 340high 297/158.6/150 WOE: WLS(1999) - low-carb Start Date: September 5, 2003	The scale is not being nice to me today. 162.6 lbs this morning. I'm not claiming it. I've been spot on with my diet this week, so it has to be water retention. If I'm still off the pace next week, I'll claim it then, but for now I'm going to stick my head in the sand and pretend I didn't see that number this morning. Stupid scale. All this plastic surgery talk has me looking at my body and wondering more about a butt lift. I really do need it, but there is still lots of fat there, too, so not yet. Seeing as I'm trying to lose more weight, I'm going to wait and see what it looks like when I'm done and then decide. If I won the lottery, I'd get a breast enhancement, too Teresa. I actually had a breast reduction done in 2001 after I had lost a lot of weight. Then I regained a lot of weight and then lost it again. So my breasts puffed up and then deflated again, but they got smaller as well with the big weight loss. So, now I need a small enhancement to fill them out. It's not drastic though, so I'm sure I'll never do it, but if money were no object? In a heartbeat! LOL!

08-19-2009, 04:43 PM	#438
Teresa123 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,041 Blog Entries: 12 Gallery: Teresa123 Stats: 350+/155.5/145 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: Oct 2006	Val--darn scale! Good thing you don't have to look at it for another week, at which point it better be nice or Lisa will take it out for you. I'm the same on the enhancement thing. It would be nice but it's truly just a vanity thing for me. I want to get the serious issues taken care of first--anything else would just be a little bonus! But I seriously need to start buying some lottery tickets--or at the very least when I go to the casino I need to start playing something a with a little more possible 'profitability' than the penny machines! Lisa--so where are you at with induction and when does it end? And, what is your plan after---are you going to 'climb the ladder' or just continue with induction? Inquiring minds want to know. Kim--how are you doing with induction? Any plans for the next step or just keep doing what you're doing as long as it's working? Is work getting any better? Kathy--where are you? If I remember correctly your kids were starting back to school today. How did Spencer do? Did he love it? Did you get started back with the athletical plan today? Well, I have eaten way too much today so I really need to pull it together tomorrow. I also had way too many carbs. All things I sometimes eat--but not all of them in the same day. Like breakfast was a banana w/pb and oatmeal with raisins--yikes! But I was in a definite 'I don't care' mood today. Not as bad as an 'f-it' attitude so I'm glad, but I really would like to lose 5-10 more lbs before surgery--assuming I have it--so I need to get my buns in gear like right now. So--I have no planned holidays or weddings or weekends away or anything coming up where I plan to indulge a bit--so my plan is to stay on the straight and narrow until I get below 145. If I don't--please kick my butt.

08-20-2009, 06:54 AM	#441
Teresa123 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,041 Blog Entries: 12 Gallery: Teresa123 Stats: 350+/155.5/145 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: Oct 2006	Ugggg--I hate losing posts! Anyway--good morning and happy Thursday! Kim--glad things are going well. The zone is a great place to be!! Lisa--a DARE?! I love dares. But, I'll have to think about it and look at the rules. My problem isn't me following the rules--personally I don't join any that I don't think I could do (or I just don't want to do). My frustration is that others rarely follow them and then I get pissed. In my opinion--if you can't follow them--don't join or get out--period....don't waste everyones time. And I've rarely--OK never--seen a reason that was good for not following the rules, just lame excuses (my own included). So all that said, you probably don't want me there cause I would just be pissing everyone off when I got tired of the bs which I have done in the past as you are well aware However if you have some serious hard core peeps there that actually follow all the rules, every day, without excuse......then that's a whole different story. Oh--and what do you mean you aren't eating food food?? Are you eating non-food food? Now I'm kind of scared to see one of your menus! OK--back to my busy crazy day. I think I'm starting to see a small glimmer....very small....in the distance that maybe means that life will calm down a bit here....maybe....I hope!

08-20-2009, 07:13 AM	#443
Teresa123 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,041 Blog Entries: 12 Gallery: Teresa123 Stats: 350+/155.5/145 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: Oct 2006	It's about time you got back here! Wow, you could drive to my place and clean--that would keep you busy for a week....or maybe longer.....! Here's my biggest tip that I wish someone had given me on ps....if you have lost more than 100 lbs (and you have!) make sure your ps has a lot of experience with bariatric patients and/or does gastric bypass reconstruction. There is a world of difference between you and me and someone who just loses 50 lbs---a world of difference---and you really need to find someone who understands how to work with more than just a pouch of excess skin. God--I wish I had understood that when I first started---it would have saved me a lot of money and grief. If there is a hospital in one of the cities around you that does a lot of WLS--call them and find out which ps's they refer their clients to--that's where I'd start if I were to do it all again. As far as dragging your feet....I understand that too. It is really a big and very personal decision---or at least it was for me. I struggled with the thought that I was putting my life on the line for vanity sake. I struggled with feeling selfish that I was putting all this money into me/my body when there are so many more noble causes out there. I struggled with letting go of the old me--as much as I hated it--there is a comfort level with the body we have always known. So even after I accepted it was the right decision for me so that I could move on with my life---I still struggled with it--and actually still do now. I think it's a lot bigger deal that many people make it out to be...or it is for me anyway. Hey--maybe our TOM's are going to sync up again soon because mine should start any day now....if the zit on my chin is any indication that is!

08-20-2009, 05:25 PM	#445
realityjunkee MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 2,725 Gallery: realityjunkee Stats: 326/183.8/150 WOE: Atkins--you betcha! Start Date: March 2007	I have an appt Monday with my PCP. I have printed some requirements for another insurance company for a letter of medical necessity for a Panniculectomy/Abdominoplasty, answered all those questions for my doc and will take that with me. As far as I'm concerned I qualify... Good to see you Kathy!

08-20-2009, 07:09 PM	#447
lcq Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 3,825 Blog Entries: 24 Gallery: lcq Stats: 5' 5": 280.6 - 264.8 - 198 WOE: Low carb my way Start Date: 1 Jan 2009	Kim & Teresa - I am excited for you gals...............I truly pray you are happy with your results at the end of it all

08-20-2009, 07:43 PM	#448
realityjunkee MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 2,725 Gallery: realityjunkee Stats: 326/183.8/150 WOE: Atkins--you betcha! Start Date: March 2007	Teresa that is great! You will be smoking! I don't expect fantastic results, but I am not single, I'm not thin and I don't have the money for great results honestly. I will take what I can get and have resigned myself to the fact that I may never have a belly button again...

08-20-2009, 08:26 PM	#449
Teresa123 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,041 Blog Entries: 12 Gallery: Teresa123 Stats: 350+/155.5/145 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: Oct 2006	I don't know about smoking--I'm just going for normal! By the time of the cruise I should be 1/4 of the way there--I hope. Seriously--insist on a belly button--even if it's a bad one like I have! Have you ever seen someone without one? It's very freaky...unless you are an alien or maybe a character in a Dr Suess book--then it might be the "in" thing! You know, the single thing is a big part of it. I want it for me, I want for once in my life to feel good about my body. But honestly--I know that is at least part of the reason I won't even consider a relationship at this point. When I was fat--a guy knew what he was getting. The surprises someone would find under my clothes these days would not be expected--and very frightening! And last--if insurance had paid for mine, I would be much more OK with the results. Unfortunately I paid out big bucks that I am still paying off--so that also makes the end result much more depressing. Anyway--make sure the belly button is included in the deal--even if you have to pay a couple extra bucks!

08-20-2009, 08:28 PM	#450
realityjunkee MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 2,725 Gallery: realityjunkee Stats: 326/183.8/150 WOE: Atkins--you betcha! Start Date: March 2007	LOL! If I were single it would be a BIG deal! But just think what a conversation piece life without a belly button could be! I could tell everyone I was a clone!