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Old 05-27-2008, 03:55 PM   #481
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Good eating, Jean. I'm proud of you. I'm inspired!

Now, who are the cuties in this new avatar????
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:46 PM   #482
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Zer, I think I love you.....



I've been lurking since January so I know you pretty well and I have so much respect and am in total awe of your attitude, among other things. Ya know, we read and read and sort through stuff. Then we kind of glean what is of immediate importance to ourselves. I've reaped much from YOU. I especially can relate to your physical abilities. Like you, I am probably not going to run (or walk) a marathon any time soon. I just want to shed the weight and get healthier. Having less pain and being more active will go hand in hand, etc. Each day we become better than the day before, if not physically---then emotionally or mentally.

You just keep encouraging and teaching the rest of us so much, every single day. All of your research does help, in case you have any doubts. You are quick to answer and have such compassion for others.

I just wanted to personally let you know that I am glad to be here. Glad to have you as a friend; becoming a cyber family if you will.

Thanks for all you do and for all of your searching.

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Old 05-27-2008, 06:54 PM   #483
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Sharon, your kind comment comes just in time, as I've dodged yet another sideswipe by a writer who seems to be annoyed by anything I write. Not just me. She's prickly with others too. Must have some issues. Anyway, she's posting on several threads that I follow and she's not able to contain herself and I'm ...well, I really needed to hear that someone is hearing that I mean well when I write what I write. Thank you. Means a LOT!

And now I'm going to put that writer on IGNORE.
Should have done it weeks ago, but thought I'd
let it pass, let her get over finding fault with me.

Might as well just do what I need to do.

Thanks for your kind words and thanks for rescuing me from feeling sorry for myself, as we all know that leads to carby hell. THANKS for rescuing me from a pity party with carbs!

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Old 05-27-2008, 07:02 PM   #484
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I've noticed that poster, Zer. at her for you!

Ok, so I've been OFFFFFF for so long! So I went to the store last night and bought the most decadent lc foods I could find (the kids are at their dad's this week, so I could be a bit over-the-top). I had a t-bone for breakfast, an artichoke with mayo for lunch, and I just finished a plate FULL of crab legs with butter. Yum! I never eat this decadently! I'm trying to get myself past the first few days by spoiling the heck out of myself!

I've also joined Cleo's mid-year challenge. I've got to get back in the swing of things! I'm glad everyone else is doing so well - let's all keep up the good work!
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zer you're awesome....i look forward to reading whatever you post in here and i always check this thread before work every morning...even though i dont have quite as much weight to lose, i feel more connected to the ppl in here than the other main threads

its been a loooonggggg day but at least i only have my own two children at home tonight...by myself though, hubby is out of town for work til friday night...might have a random relative staying here tonight though, im not sure

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Old 05-27-2008, 07:17 PM   #486
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I too check in here first thing. Love how Pam reaches out to welcome us all! And I refer folks to this thread when they arrive and don't know where to begin, as I remember how confusing LCFriends was when I started trying to figure out what the WLJournal and the BLOG were - and all the particulars of using this site that are pretty well defined but can be confusing to anyone who drifts in and is feeling weary and worn and not at all sure of finding a way to lose all this weight.

Thankfully, this family of LCFriends has helped me figure out a way that even I can take off some weight. It's working. Slowly.

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"Slow and Sure wins the race." It's better to go slowly and permanently than quick, haphazardly and regain and lose health over and over.

Wow, that was good. I'm going to listen to myselfI lack patience, hence I procrastinate.

Zer, I didn't realize you were being 'attacted'. I just felt like God had told me to write you with how I feel toward you and so I did. His timing is always perfect.
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Old 05-27-2008, 07:42 PM   #488
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I just felt like God had told me to write you with how I feel toward you and so I did. His timing is always perfect.
Amen to that. It's always nice when someone resonates to what we write, what we feel. This support group fills all that empty aching space that I used to fill up with carbs. It does. Now that I can come that type here, my hands are busy and I hardly want to stop to feed myself.

Speaking of that, it's time for me to find 800cals or so to make my target goals - BMR:2423cals, 182g protein (fat chance of that, as I'm no carnivore!). I'm on the track with my water, being just about ready to refill two 32oz bottles for all night long sipping and slurping and hoping for a radical WHOOSH on Wed morn!
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Old 05-28-2008, 04:07 AM   #489
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Howdy Sharon! I am from Wisconsin too!


Zer, ya know Ive seen that happen to too many people in that area of LCF. They get heir whooping boys and they get pretty zealous bat it at times. Kudos to you for using ignore!
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Good Morning everyone!

Zer, the issue of people attacking one another on this site is what drove me away from here years ago. I just got so tired of reading thru threads that were nothing more than arguments! I applaud you for not being lured into a debate online here.
Shows great maturity and wisdom!

And, speaking of wisdom!! Your bmr thingy worked me!
I worked at eating more calories yesterday. Still did not quite make it to 2000 cals but came darn close. I also added coconut oil to my diet last night. Just mixed a tablespoon with some davinici's and ate it! This morning I stepped on the scale and ...............
WHOOSH...............3 LBS GONE!! OMG!!
I was so shocked! Yesterday I weighed at the same time and was 412.2, today I weighed and was 409.00!! So I actually lost 3.2 lbs in 24 hrs!!
I have been thinking about this whole bmr thingy and the way I have eaten my entire life. I believe that my body has always held on to weight as a protective mode. I was a runaway teen as a kid, and spent about a year on the streets. I would go as long as 2 weeks at a time with nothing to eat.
I knew I was starving because my clothes became enourmous on me.
When I went home, it seemed like everything I ate went on as fat. I struggled with that for years and could never get the weight off.
Then in my mid 20's, I started basically a starvation diet. I allowed myself to eat only 1 time a day and no more than 500 cals. I lost about 100lbs, and then met my husband. When we got married and he found out how I ate, he demanded that I eat normally. I did and again, everything went on as fat. I gained 100lbs in less than 6 months. Since then, I have done many many diets, including LC but always get to a point and it stops! Even if I am still doing the plan!
So, after reading up on your bmr thingy and bumping my calories to 2000, I have had my first ever WHOOSH!!
Thanks so much for you encouragement and input!
I am still learning about how to balance the whole bmr/calorie/protein/carb thing but I know I am on the right track now!!

Also wanted to thank you deb for the info on co! I really believe that it will be a big help for me!
I got the louana kind, but think I will get the evco next pay day. I want to have the smell and taste of co in my co!

thanks zer, deb! y'all are my heros

toodles for now...got to go eat something!!
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:10 AM   #491
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Yay, Edna...for giving us ALL something to celebrate!

I'm so glad to have good news to celebrate today, even if it's not on MY scale this morning, but on Edna's. It's all good, isn't it? Yay, Edna, for eating MORE and letting go of FAT!

C'mon over to the BMR thread, Edna, and check in with the folks who are helping me to overcome my impulse to eat less than my BMR - even as I see how eating to a BMR works for the folks who are faithful to that principle. C'mon, Edna!

Isn't the whole BMR thing an amazing formula? Lets us know what a body uses for basic metabolic function - breathing and such. Fueling up for that lets our body relax, I guess, and we burn fat as we respire and perspire and get on with all the cellular-level biz that goes on inside of us - while we think we are doing "nothing". Busy busy cells, inside us, working like mad all the time! Wow!

My midweek sneak weigh-in this morning is the same as on 5/7 (4.2# less than on 5/1), as I've been doing a bOunCy thing all month, probably because I try to starve myself to slip past where I am and slide into 399# like a base runner coming in on a wing and a prayer. How's THAT for a mixed metaphor? Anyway, not a prayer of getting past my scale by eating less. Got to eat up to my BMR:2423calories each day! Just made it last night, by eating sardines at 10pm. I did it!

I'm down a pound from Monday. Still as far from 399# as I was on 5/7 - still cherish a hope that I can make 399# by 6/1 (just four days away). Four days of eating to my BMR? Can I stick to my guns and JUST DO IT? Maybe. Maybe I can.

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Old 05-28-2008, 05:17 AM   #492
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The 2 beauties in my avatar are grandson Gavin and I hope to be my grandaughter Alexandria..Alex for short. Her Mom and my son have been together going on 2 years and I love Mom and daughter. Maybe some day I will be able to identify her as my grand daughter.
Zer...I can't believe what I am hearing about someone being ugly to you. I just bet it is a young person who doesn't believe age and weight will catch up with her. I don't have time to read other threads..just come here several times each day. Please don't let anything make you feel bad or quit. You are thought of so highly here.
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:24 AM   #494
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Georgia peaches - Edna and Laura?

I see that both Edna and Laura are in Georgia.
Neighbors? Maybe. Dunno. What do you say?
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:39 AM   #495
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What can a fat person say that's worth listening to?

Folks, we all have to admit that a LOT of people are going to take potshots at a person whose weight is not going down. My weight is still up where it has been for a long time. I bounce up and down, gain and lose the same pounds over and over. That just HAS to seem foolish to some folks. I can see that. So I make allowances for people who want to hear from successful LC writers more than from a writer who is still trying to get under 400# - and not having much luck. I think this BMR thing is key for me. I think that learning to eat up to my BMR:2423calories will help my metabolism adjust, repair itself. I'm pushing to see if doing that for 4 days will show results! I'm committing to eating up to my BMR:2423cals today and for the rest of May. Urk, all that food! But...I'm going to do my level best to consume all of that and to strive for my protein-gram target too: 182g!

June 1 just might prove to me, once and for all, that the BMR thing WORKS!

And no matter how many sour folks there are in the world, there are more supportive folks here at LCFriends than anyplace I've been! LCFriends ROX!

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Thanks! But I have a fat bias myself and I can almost understand anyone who finds a chatty fatty aggravating. I think that might be what's operating in my case.

Now let's talk about those cute kids in your avatar. Does anyone else have a hard time remembering what it was like to be that size? I look at kids and tell myself that I too was once that small, that precious, that full of promise. What happened to turn me into a person who wanted to hide behind a wall of fat? I built a barrier that few people care to work their way past. Why???

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Aww Zer,

The main reason for people like me and you to hide ourselves away behind all this weight is simple......pain.

I have been fighting this battle since I was a kid. My mom was my first source of pain. She was thin and pretty and thought that kids were just a punishment for enjoying sex. There were 7 of us kids and all but one of us have suffered from the effects of an unloving childhood. Yes, we were smacked around a bit, sometimes even beaten. Each one of us in turn has taken the effects of that childhood and gone a different self-destructive path.
My oldest brother is wanted by the fbi, my next brother has battled his own sex demons in life, my sister who was never loved or valued, has spent her whole life trying to find worth in material items, my next brother followed her footsteps and the next brother has been in and out of jail more times than I remember. I on the other hand, have chosen to hide away behind this wall.
Every time I have a major hurt ....off to the cookie jar I run!

So, my guess is that somewhere in you life, you are harboring deep wounds that brought you to 400lbs...just like me.

But we are here now! And we may be slow but we are still here! I told myself the other day when I was so discouraged that even if the scale is not changing, I know my heart is! I am healthier! I feel it!
My blood pressure is down to normal and I feel good!
So....you keep sharing you thoughts and ideas. There are many of us that are glad to hear them!
Since you and I are so close in weight, we will run this race together.
When you stumble, I will pick you up. When I fall, you come back and get me!
We can do this...we must or die!
And to blazes with anyone who does not understand the wisdom of a fat lady!
I have 3 gourgeous daughters that have avoided my fate b/c of my wisdom. If they need diet input, who do you think they come to first?? That's right! Mamma! They have seen me fight this battle for a long, long time and know that I have read every diet book, been down every path and have much knowledge. Just b/c it did not work for my body, does not mean it wont work for them!
Sorry for rambling Zer, just wanted everyone here to know that we do have much wisdom to share, for those who choose to listen!!

lovya Zer!
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Hope everyone is smiling this morning!

Zur, I just copied the recipe u posted for cheetos.. I think I just might have to make some of those. I think most fat pple can give valuable advice. Experience has always been the best example and we all seem to be loaded with experience. Everyone I know, thinks I am knowledgeable about weight loss. Its certainly not because I have lost a ton of weight. Whether it be genetically or because of trauma some have experienced, or the different roads inbetween, we all are on a journey that brings us experience and knowledge of dieting. I might be losing and gaining the same lbs over and over again but I know while doing so I feel best on low carbs.
Once I figure out where my demons are stored I may have a chance to lower my weight and keep it off. I love reading your posts

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i am so glad you came out of lurkdom!

JUNEBUG2 Good Morning!

dixichic
that's amazing! now send that whoosh fairy here! in the vitamin section at walmart(hidden at mine it see=med) there is a jar that's about 10 bucks and the only name on it is "extra virgin coconut oil" it's made by rexall, inc and i like it and i don't usually like coconut

bjw those kids are so cute and i would claim her whether it was official or not! my DS12 calls one of his friends mamaws "Mamaw" too and we are no relation

dantesmom good to see ya!

hippiegirl don't stay away so long!

alaskanlaughter you have been so good watching your friends kids you deserve a break

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hang in there and don't worry about it.....that's what that ignore button is for....the other poster has to live with the bad karma not you

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Just wanted to say hello. Hope you had a great memorial Day Week-end.
We stayed home and had friends over and sat out by the pool and just relaxed and ate all day.

Not doing much today as usual because my knees and hips are still hurting me pretty badly so I either sit or lay down alot. My doctors appt. is not until June 6th. Hope I can hold out until then, I am out of all my pain meds and took some alioeve but it does nothing for the pain. I am sure he is going to talk about doing the knee surgery when I see him on the 6th. That scares me.

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Catching up...at noon on Wed...busy day for LC writers!!!

Edna, what a powerful analysis of why some of us wall ourself behind fat!
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My younger sibs both reared wonderful children - somehow finding parenting skills that we ourself never saw during our childhood. Their children are parenting now and are loving parents whose kids seem to be coming along well. So it CAN be done, in spite of my own reservations about my own nurturing skills. My sibs are proof that a vile childhood is not a barrier to being a good parent.
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Well said, Zer!
I have 3 amazing daughter's that are proof we do not have to pass on the pain of our childhood!
It's a choice to be a good parent!
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Start Date: Jan. 19, 2008
Hi everybody. Just quickly stopping by while on staycation. My dad is here visiting. All my family lives in Central Illinois, but I'm in Colorado. I have not told any of them that I've been on this WOE. Originally I wasn't headed back there for a visit until Christmas and thought I'd surprise my siblings. Instead, I'm headed back over July 4th, so I don't expect most of them to notice a change. My sister will notice, though. Anyway, Dad is really proud of me and finds this really exciting. And I've sworn him to secrecy!

This past week I finally made a 30 pounds/50 pounds total loss. 51 now. Such a landmark. Now I'm working toward getting below 250. I first thought I'd easily be there before Memorial Day, but my loss is slower than I'd figured. It's ok, I'm getting there. My scale is one of those older medical-type with the sliding weights. Every 50 pounds you go to a whole new level. I can h