300+ Support Group- New Year-New Beginnings January 2008

[Grammie C]

correction no 15 car pile up it was 50 car pile up
sad to see the videos on Bulletin

Originally Posted by Coriander

we have a news alert here in Florida...this morning there was a 50 car pile up...
3 people were killed...fourteen mile stretch of US I-4 is closed in Polk County the people that survived say it was like running into a brick wall. for the survivors and families that lost a loved one.

[dantesmom]

Oh no Cori! I will pary for the families and the people injured. How awful!

Des look at the difference in ur pics! you are melting!

Laura you can ocme here any ol time you like and talk to us. Thats what we are here for!

[desdemona]

Originally Posted by amm

Yes, that's what I wanted to know. I use 8th continent light soy milk and wanted to find a good chocolate flavored protein powder to make shakes with. But I'm worried that if I just buy any container off the shelf it might taste bad or chalky like Slim Fast.

Try the 'nector sweets' chocolate, that's the best chocolate I've ever tasted and it's zero carb. You can get samples of it (and other protein drinks) at bariatriceating.com that's where I order my stuff, it tastes the best.

[pescacat]

Hi Everyone-
WOW!! and congrats to everyone losing weight-Des, Cleo, Cris, Amm and the rest KUTGW!

Carol-will definitely pray for everyone and their families from the big car pile up. How awful and sad.

I didn't do my WATP video but I did 3 flights of stairs twice today (does that count as 6 even though there was alot of time in between?) and did walk some when I went to the consulate. Just feel wiped out-think it is lack of sleep and all the emotional drain of the stuff that happened today. Snarly is out tomcattin' again. Got that single ring on his phone, he left to "go to the office" then came back got a shower, all dressed up and out he went...must think I'm blind, deaf, and stupid. Anyway, I went down 3 floors and spent a delightful few hours talking to our neighbors there. The mom only speaks Italian and her grown daughter who is probably close to my age loves america and speaks english. It was wonderful to get out of the house, talk and
just get their Italian perspective on things... They invited me back afternoons and evenings...and tried their best to feed me dinner and chocolate when I was there- that was so sweet but I refused. They have a 22 year old turtle as a pet!

Had some buttered microwaved spinach and a broiled mini filet with bacon for dinner-now to guzzle some water -need to do better on that although I think I'm getting between 2 and 3 liters a day.

I think I'm turning in early tonight-maybe the extra sleep will melt some weight off by morning *crossing my fingers*

Hope everyone has a great night!

--Laura

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by pescacat

Hi Everyone-
WOW!! and congrats to everyone losing weight-Des, Cleo, Cris, Amm and the rest KUTGW!

Carol-will definitely pray for everyone and their families from the big car pile up. How awful and sad.

I didn't do my WATP video but I did 3 flights of stairs twice today (does that count as 6 even though there was alot of time in between?) and did walk some when I went to the consulate. Just feel wiped out-think it is lack of sleep and all the emotional drain of the stuff that happened today. Snarly is out tomcattin' again. Got that single ring on his phone, he left to "go to the office" then came back got a shower, all dressed up and out he went...must think I'm blind, deaf, and stupid. Anyway, I went down 3 floors and spent a delightful few hours talking to our neighbors there. The mom only speaks Italian and her grown daughter who is probably close to my age loves america and speaks english. It was wonderful to get out of the house, talk and
just get their Italian perspective on things... They invited me back afternoons and evenings...and tried their best to feed me dinner and chocolate when I was there- that was so sweet but I refused. They have a 22 year old turtle as a pet!

Had some buttered microwaved spinach and a broiled mini filet with bacon for dinner-now to guzzle some water -need to do better on that although I think I'm getting between 2 and 3 liters a day.

I think I'm turning in early tonight-maybe the extra sleep will melt some weight off by morning *crossing my fingers*

Hope everyone has a great night!

--Laura

yay someone to talk to always helps! and maybe they will help you practice your Italian!
Goodnight Laura and tomorrow will be a brighter day!

[Mona]

Thank you for the warm welcome everyone. I wish I had time to respond to everyone's posts every day but unfortunately I don't. I just started a new school term. I'm out of the house all day then when I get home it's dinner, homework then bed. haha Today for an added bonus I got to go grocery shopping and wash a load of DH's laundry. Yay me!

Doing well on induction so far. This is the end of Day 4. No headache so far....which is strange. I got so many yummy foods at Costco. I always break the bank when I go there. I got some tritip steaks, bacon, sausage, nuts, cheeses, broccoli, salad. Yum!

Desdemona I can't beleive you've lost so much in only a year! wow Do you exercise a lot? Maybe I'd lose more if I did...but I'm too lazy.

Hey HT! Well we used to be twins but then one of us cheated all summer! =D I'm trying my best to catch back up (errr down) to you.

Laura, some free advice from someone you don't know. (heh) I would stop the cozy breakfasts together at the table, etc. If he's going to subject you to random yelling and various other abuse, then he does not deserve you sitting at his side doing wifely things....kwim? Besides anytime you are near him it just gives him a chance to start yelling. Oh and btw maybe next time he goes out for a night on the town you can smile sweetly and tell him to have a nice time with his lady friends.

[desdemona]

sometimes I exercise a lot. I jogged for 30 minutes tonight.

[pescacat]

Hi everyone-

Let me just start out by saying Des, your journey in pictures is just jawdroppingly wonderful! I am so so so proud of you and happy for you. I haven't been taking pics and probably should but..er..there's no one I feel comfortable with to take them right now.

Amm-you're doing so well too and Cleo and Cris..it is all just so amazing the weight you all are losing and how quickly! *YAY*! I am also so thrilled and happy for everyone else who is losing weight-a pound away is one less we have to carry and so much closer to being healthy! Mona-way to go! stocking up on good stuff and sticking to the plan-I know that first few days and even couple of weeks can be rough.

Deb-thanks again for your kindness and thoughtfulness. Yes, it was wonderful to get out of the house and practice my italian with the mom (she understood me pretty well and having to speak to her in italian was quite the linguistic workout but I felt really good about it.) Her daughter, Federica, speaks english quite well and is really trying to learn more and speak more so she is more fluent. She says she's taken courses and tried for 10 years and it is only this year that she feels confident enough to try to speak english. I say way to go! Interestingly, she told me she works for a company that was just bought by Kraft and they are the distributors for ritz crackers here. They are about to introduce two "new" products in Italy in the next couple of months- Oreo cookies and Chips Ahoy. I had to laugh about how excited she is to have amercian snack products hitting the market. I was so sad to realize that she would have LOVED all the american cake and brownie and other type mixes that my husband made me throw away when I got back here at the end of december (he didn't want to see any more american food products and I was trying to appease him to show him things would be better..and it didn't make any difference anyway). Federica tells me she LOVES cranberry juice (which is almost impossible to find here-I have brought some back and given it to her in the past) and cheesecake...too bad I don't have any cheesecake mixes (even jello no bake) to give her. Oh well. I think I do have an oreo no-bake pie mix and some other things. That way I know someone will appreciate them and I don't have to throw them away.

Mona and Carol, I appreciate your advice and input so much. I didn't sit at the table to be wifely and nice or let him take out a vendetta against me, I wanted to show him I could resist temptation and also needed to talk to him about the mover and the furniture. I realize he overreacts to everything and yells. I still need to talk with him about stuff though to get through this and get back to the US. I did mention the fact that he seems to have a girlfriend because of the repeated one ring calls and stuff. He got mad and denied it but it is just more lies and dishonesty from him as far as I'm concerned. He took the camera with him last night and I asked to see the pics this morning..and when he told me the camera was in the office I gave him this ohhh ok and a smirky smile and he got all mad and cussed and yelled saying did I think he wasn't smart enough to get rid of any pics of someone else if he were cheating and he could certainly hide it if he is? (and I was thinking, sure you are, that's exactly why I think it is suspicious that BEFORE he came home after 1am last night, he stopped off in the office to drop off the camera AND probably also download any pics he didn't want me to see..but I decided to play dumb) When he came back with the camera I sweetly said of course I thought he was smart enough to cheat on me and hide it completely but that wasn't why I smiled...I just thought it was nice that he had found some big yachts to take photos of and I was still very interested in his work. I asked why he always jumped to the worst thoughts about me that are possible-first (of course, I know all about projection and that he's so afraid I'll realize that he's lying and cheating that he gets defensive immediately and tries to assume the worst about me-especially since I'm proably right in what I'm thinking!) I then reasurred him that I trust him completely and believe that he is a man of honor and integrity (almost barfed when I said that..) and that I wanted him to know he could trust me too..... that placated him and he walked off.

I decided I need to start separating out stuff and throwing stuff away that I don't really want to cart back with me. I also need to find my materials for teaching and doing a teaching demo during a job interview and make sure those go back with me on the plane, rather than getting boxed up and shipped on a several months long boat trip.

I wanted to ask everyone their opinion: Many of my clothes are getting really big and loose but I don't know where (or if they are even here) my smaller sized clothes are (especially winter clothes) I am also scared I'll get derailed for some reason and start regaining. Should I keep all my current clothes, even the too big ones, out and put them in the suitcases to go to the US by plane and use them until they fall off me or just see if I can safety pin/tack down the waist or should I just figure I'll stay on track and can pack up the clothes and they can arrive in 2-3 months and buy new smaller sized stuff when I get to the US in a few weeks?

I went to the lawyer this morning-had a long talk about things. Showed them the letter. They said they'd fax a reply stating some stuff that denies or refutes some of the things in the letter (to protect me) and stating that they represent me. They also said they'd make the first settlement offer this afternoon and of course, the first offer is really aggressive and with very high numbers for my support/alimony. I am SURE things are about to get alot more tense and uncomfortable around here when my husband hears the terms of this first offer...so please keep praying for me.

Oh, on a positive side note, I walked home from the lawyers and felt really strong and good and will be doing my WATP and strength training video today. I lost a pound overnight so Des, I bet you were right about getting sleep being an aid to weight loss! *YAY!*

--Laura

[Hot Tamale]

Laura, Laura, Laura... I am so proud of you. What you are going through is pure crap and I know it - been there in many ways. I remember throwing away things and just crying the whole time - but it had to be done (remember, I moved across country when my mess blew up...). If I were you, I'd find one or two outfits you'd wear to interviews to make sure they were with you, and then I'd find a few more outfits that fit you well enough now - not too many, m ind you... The rest of the big stuff I would throw away. I decided I'd start doing that - and have thrown a few things away...I'll throw more when I finally have a chance to go through my closet again... I'd also be prepared for quite a blow up when he gets those papers. I didn't have the chance to ask for alimony, but know how that would have hit the fan! At one point he hadn't sent the papers as he was supposed to, and I did call him and tell him that if I didn't have the papers by a certain date that I would be filing them myself here...I had them in about 5 days after that... Ooooh, I still can't stand him!
PS - I'm only losing this fast right now cause its like induction again...
PPS - I don't eat the egg yolks cause I don't like them usually - too dry for me unless I make deviled eggs or egg salad...
More later - yet another meeting!

[Hot Tamale]

PPPS - 303.4 this AM (down from 310.9!)!!! HOORAY!!!

[pescacat]

Cris-thanks! and *YAY!!!** on another pound GONE! WOOOHOO!
--Laura

[Hot Tamale]

Woo Hoo Only 128.4 to go... Jeesh, that's a LOT!!!

[desdemona]

B and I talked on the phone for awhile, i was trying to help him figure out 'what he wants to do' ie career path at Dell, he seems rather confused about it. He went all weird on me.... he was like I want you but I don't know how much I want you. I was really quiet...I was like what does that mean? He said that he's interested in me but he isn't sure and he has other people he was dating before he and I got together and he 'thinks' he's into me but not sure. So he wants to date these other people too. Then he went off on this tangent about not putting all of his eggs in one basket because then you invest 6 months of time in a person and then realize it won't work out and you're back at square one. Alrighty..... I thought that's what dating was, I have never been a 'play the field' type person really...
It was weird how much B and I just 'clicked' the way it happened though. I wasn't expecting ANYTHING when we went out anyways. Dunno why he's getting all weird on me.

[cleochatra]

Good morning, you delicious dollops of loveliness!

I'm really enjoying getting to know all of you more through reading! I hate just jumping in when I don't know back stories and personalities, and this is a relaxing way to find out who you adorable folks are!

Hot Tamale! Way to go on your continued weight loss! You are going to hit your weight loss goal in no time!

Des-- I'm sorry your guy is going a little wonky. Maybe asking him about his job just made him feel like, "Wow! She's invested!" Maybe you need to talk about pro sports and cars. (kidding)

Pesca-- I'm sorry this is such a difficult time for you. You are such a lovely woman! I love your avatar!

Mona-- It is good to hear that your induction hasn't been anything but mildly uncomfortable. I think it means you weren't doing that badly to begin with!

Coriander-- how are you?

Dantesmom-- How are you doing?

[dantesmom]

Hey ladies! Sorry I didnt get in much yestersday!

Cleo - umm WHere is my hip bump missy?

HT- Way to go! Kutgw! you are rocking the scale!

DES- men can be such weirdos some times. I have no idea what they mean half the time.

gettin- hope miss Hannah is doing well

Laura- you are in myy prayers as you are going through all of this. I think 2008 is going to be the year fo ryou to get rid of all the dead weight holding you down...In more ways than one!

Cori..howya doin woman?

[Grammie C]

I am affected by this awful pile-up accident that took place yesterday morning...

70 cars 4 deaths and many many injuries a sorrowful tragedy for many here in Florida on the highway that takes millions to Disney World

[pescacat]

Hi Everyone-

Des-guess he just weirded himself out. I thought that dating was about getting to know someone and whether or not you click too. Umm...perhaps the situation has changed in the last few years...geez... Is he wanting you to be a friend and a counselor with benefits??? how do you feel about him wanting to date others? and is that a nice way for him to say he wants to sleep around and see if anything better comes along???!!!??

Cleo and Sally-thanks! That pic of me is from my vacation this past summer-at the grand canyon. Hopefully, while the canyon gets bigger/wider/deeper every day from erosion..I'll be going in the opposite direction and getting smaller every day from fat erosion! *L*

Carol, I am so so sorry about how the accident and lost lives are affecting you. It is such a tragedy and I know so many people are hurting and sad. God is with them all and may he comfort your soul too.

--Tossed some stuff today-went through a couple of boxes I should have emptied 3 years ago...oh well..better now than shipping it all back to the US to go through there!

--Laura

[Sandytoes]

Good morning Ladies.

Cris~WTG! 128.4lbs does not sound that bad. I was looking at 205lbs when I started in Aug og 07.

Laura~You are doing a great job. It must kill your hubby every time he takes notice of your weight loss and new inner strength. I do believe living well and taking care of yourself is the best revenge.
Carol~
Des~WTH? B, said he wants to play the field? Maybe I have been married a long time and out of the game, but this guy needs a smack up side the head. You have made great strides in your life and have become a new person. Why would you give the time of day to some guy who says, "I don't know how into you I am". Take a look in the mirror, you are a catch! I wouldn't waste too much time on him. jmho
Sandy
T~How is Hannah doing? And how about you?

[desdemona]

he doesn't want to sleep around, or if he does he knows it's out of the question. I told him under no circumstances would that be okay.

[debkeversole]

hi all hope today is a happier day for everyone
Corianderfor everyone affected by the wreck and for you . i know it has hurt your sweet heart

[debkeversole]

Laura i hope i haven't missed you because of the time difference(i have been sleeping WAY too late recently) you look reALLY HAPPY IN YOUR NEW AVATAR PIC....YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT YOUR CLOTHES...COULD YOUR NEIGHBORS BE ABLE TO TELL YOU OF A CONSIGMENT SHOP SOMEWHERE IN YOUR TOWN?? THAT WAY YOU GET RID OF THE CLOTHES AND MAKE SOME MONEY!(uggh caps lock and chubby fingers., sorry i didn't mean to shout and i am too lazy to retype that too!) about taking things back to the States, i would get rid of everything i possibly could ,no excess baggage!
when we moved back from Germany i mailed several thing my DS needed even his tricycle! you were talking about teaching they are always looking for subs so that would tide you over until you got on your feet

[Sandytoes]

Des~ you go girl!