Question concerning gluten-intolerance and whole grains

[SMP]

If you are gluten-intolerant, or celiac, will wheat or oat bran do the same number on your intestines as the whole grain stuff does? I see all those bran containing recipes and salivate (DROOL ), but I don't want to regress healthwise. And no one seems to know the answer.

[JoSkids]

I don't know, let's bump this up...

[KayeS__]

I don't know either - I suggest adding more detail to the topic, such as

Question concerning gluten-intolerance and whole grains

That way a knowledgable person doesn't skip it - thinking it is another question about ketosis, how to use FITDAY, or carb count in some product.

[ANNA BANNANA]

NO QUESTION IS STUPID. I AM NOT AN EXPERT, BUT MY SISTER-IN-LAW IS GLUETEN INTOLERANT (ALLERGIC TO WHEAT) SO ANY WHEAT, WETHER FROM WHITE FLOUR TO WHOLE GRAIN IS THE SAME STUFF. i SUGGEST YOU GIVE THE DOC A CALL THAT TOLD YOU YOU ARE GLUETEN INTOLERANT. GOOD LUCK!

[SMP]

Thanks, Anna, but my problem is celiac disease. I still don't know if celiac involves more than the gluten (protein) portion of grains or not. Like cow dairy - I am allergic to every component of cow milk, not just the lactose. I really don't want to return to my dying condition just for taste sensations, but I'd like a change once in a while.

[Queen Mab]

Yes, wheat bran will do the same thing. Oat bran is most likely contaminated, so it can also cause problems.

You really need to educate yourself about Celiac Disease.

I'm providing you a site with many informational links. read up.

http://www.gflinks.com/

[tiva]

Yes, absolutely, the bran will harm you. Don't eat it if you're gluten intolerant (Celiac's disease). Even though most of the gluten has been removed, there's still plenty left to cause major problems for you.

Here's the standard list for what you cannot eat, from celiac.com : Oats aren't on this list, since technically they don't contain gluten. But since they're usually processed in the same plants that process wheat, most oat products get contaminated with gluten, and most of us cannot tolerate them.

Forbidden List - Foods and Ingredients Not Safe for a Gluten-Free Diet


Abyssinian Hard (Wheat triticum durum)
Alcohol (Spirits - Specific Types)
Barley Grass (can contain seeds)
Barley Hordeum vulgare
Barley Malt
Beer
Bleached Flour
Blue Cheese (made with bread)
Bran
Bread Flour
Brewer's Yeast
Brown Flour
Bulgur (Bulgar Wheat/Nuts)
Bulgur Wheat
Cereal Binding
Chilton
Club Wheat (Triticum aestivum subspecies compactum)
Coloring
Common Wheat (Triticum aestivum)
Couscous
Dextrimaltose
Durum wheat (Triticum durum)
Edible Starch
Einkorn (Triticum monococcum)
Emmer (Triticum dicoccon)
Farina Graham
Filler
Food Starch
Fu (dried wheat gluten)
Germ
Graham Flour
Granary Flour
Gravy Cubes4
Groats (barley, wheat)
Ground Spices4
Gum Base
Hard Wheat
Kamut (Pasta wheat)
Malt
Malt Extract
Malt Syrup
Malt Flavoring
Malt Vinegar
Miso4
Macha Wheat (Triticum aestivum)
Matzo Semolina
Mustard Powder 4
Oriental Wheat (Triticum turanicum)
Pasta
Pearl Barley
Persian Wheat (Triticum carthlicum)
Poulard Wheat (Triticum turgidum)
Polish Wheat (Triticum polonicum)
Rice Malt (contains barley or Koji)
Rye
Seitan
Semolina
Semolina Triticum
Shot Wheat (Triticum aestivum)
Shoyu (soy sauce)4 Small Spelt
Soba Noodles4
Soy Sauce
Spirits (Specific Types)
Spelt (Triticum spelta)
Sprouted Wheat or Barley
Stock Cubes4
Strong Flour
Suet in Packets
Tabbouleh
Teriyaki Sauce
Textured Vegetable Protein - TVP
Timopheevi Wheat (Triticum timopheevii)
Triticale X triticosecale
Udon (wheat noodles)
Vavilovi Wheat (Triticum aestivum)
Vegetable Starch
Vitamins4
Wheat Triticum aestivum
Wheat Nuts
Wheat, Abyssinian Hard triticum durum
Wheat, Bulgur
Wheat Durum Triticum
Wheat Triticum Monococcum
Wheat Germ (oil)
Wheat Grass (can contain seeds)
Whole-Meal Flour
Wild Einkorn (Triticum boeotictim)
Wild Emmer (Triticum dicoccoides)

[SMP]

Thanks for all your replies, and thank you, Tiva for that list. I have never been formally diagnosed with celiac, but it runs in my family and I always considered myself to have escaped it. When I went LC, suddenly a great many problems started to ameliorate,; so I wasn't terribly surprised when my N.D. said I was allergic to several grains. (Including flaxseed, but it's only a mild one. I eat flax about 1-2 times per week.) At times I've wondered about buckwheat, but I do know it's from the rhubarb family. Still I only eat it once in a while. My hubby seems to be developing an allergy to wheat - it sends his blood sugar sky-high, and he really misses bread-type things. I've just been exploring options via this list before jumping in. I'm especially interested in muffins or pancakes or similar, but take out wheat, dairy, soy, yeast (a bit of a surprise) and it gets a tad challenging. I'd have never guessed blue cheese, but then, I can't eat cow dairy. I think I can still handle goat dairy. Hope so, as my daughter's goats are about to kid.

[tiva]

If you cook, try making baked goods with almond flour. There are lots of recipes in the recipe room and across the web. Now I think they taste better than baked goods make with wheat or rye! (Although they do tend to be moister). You can buy almond flour at whole foods and trader joes, or make it from almonds in your food processor or coffee grinder (although then the texture is much rougher). Many recipes for muffins, pancakes, waffles, etc rely on almond flour and/or cream cheese and eggs. I'm always surprised by how good they are.

[KastaDiva]

Sandra, try to get these two books from the library: Dangerous Grains and The Inflammation Syndrome.

Also, wheat doesn't have to cause an allergy before it raises blood sugar. Wheat raises blood sugar because it is a quick acting carb. You don't mention if your DH is a diabetic. If he isn't, he needs to be evaluated for pre-diabetes (impaired phase 1 insulin response), or even diabetes, cuz if wheat is noticeably causing a sugar spike, his pancreas is no longer able to handle the generated sugar from fast acting carbs.

I use almond flour a lot, It's great!

KD