Gluten Free and Low carb?

Rebecca1979 · 12-02-2003, 08:48 PM

What is the difference????

Thanks in Advance!

Rebecca

sfgirl · 12-02-2003, 09:29 PM

Well, from the sound of this board, it seems like some people can still low-carb using Atkins mixes, etc...These low-carb baking mixes using contain a high amonut of wheat protein (gluten). I personally don't "do" wheat or grains at all, in any forms, nor do I consume dairy. I find that glutens/grains and dairy both make me gain weight with alarming alacrity.

So I'm low-carbing without gluten, but some people use mixes, "low-carb" breads, etc. (You'll sometimes hear these type of products referred to as frankenfoods...)

I hope that helps!

- sf

cl2gas_1 · 12-03-2003, 06:07 AM

I just found out I have borderline celiac disease. I was tested because two of my daughters have full blown celiac.....It is hereditary so I guess it came from me... But I have been doing Atkins for just a year now. So I must be in a healing stage. I have not gone for a biopsy yet because of insurance reasons. I do check low carb baking products that may contain vital wheat gluten. My daughter bake gluten free but not sugar free. So I am out on that also... In March after my biopsy it will be difficult following this diet I believe...

inatic · 12-03-2003, 06:42 AM

You might want to contact/IM Nonstickpam107 she has many autoimmune diseases as well as celiac's. She has been very successful following low carb and staying gluten free/sugar free.

nonstickpam107 · 12-03-2003, 06:52 AM

Thanks Ileen,

Well, so far, in my studying I've found that "borderline" Celiac is the same as being "borderline" pregnant!! You are, or you are not,,,Celiac is an autoimmune disease, and if you carry the gene, you can do so without having the symptoms (yet). I carried the gene all my life, and got the full-blown symptoms (including abscesses in my lungs and colon) just a few short months ago.

The symptoms came on very suddenly because...I've been lowcarbing for three years, and not eating things with gluten in them (mostly because I avoid soy like the plague, as I have thyroid disease, therefore most things for lowcarbers have soy as well as wheat bran or gluten in them). So,,,I got stupid one day, an decided to have a bite of my DH's 100% whole wheat bread...yep, a bite. To the doc, and then to the hospital I went!!

I have other autoimmune diseases as well, and Celiac tend to (like so many other autoimmune diseases) go hand in hand with Hashimoto's and Grave's thyroid disease.

I have lost the weight, continue to maintain, without gluten or "Frankenfoods" ie: processed lowcarb foods. I substitute for glutens and wheat for things in the recipe rooms, and find that flaxseed meal and almond flour have become staple baking ingredients for me.

Do I miss glutens?? NO....I don't. I'm allergic (have a hugely high IgE, and am slated to begin the new Xolair injections very, very soon) and have anaphylactic response to many foods. If you want to know more about hidden glutens (hey, even canned broth is a killer for a Celiac) than do a search for "gluten free list of foods" as well as "Celiac Sprue". You will find a lot of information. Also, go to www.delphiforums.com and look under Health and then Celiac forums, those people there are very supportive and helpful.

Pam

tiva · 12-03-2003, 10:10 AM

Many people who are on gluten-free diets still eat high carb, since rice and potatos and corn are gluten-free.

KastaDiva · 12-03-2003, 10:30 AM

Two very good books that will help people understand about celiac disease and autoimmune response are "Dangerous Grains," and "The Inflammation Syndrome."

Also, read up about leaky gut syndrome. We put my DH's autoimmune disease in complete remission by stopping all grains and legumes. I suspect he also had celiac disease, altho he was never diagnosed. We just always sort of thought it was IBS, and we were told by a doctor that his disease caused the bowel problems. I now know he had the bowel disease first, and that caused his crippling disease. My DH has been flare up free since Oct, 2000.

Recently, I read it is becoming recognized there is a connection between fructose and celiac disease.

KD

nonstickpam107 · 12-03-2003, 11:06 AM

I've been running into doctor's and other medical personnel that don't know much about the disease, actually. First, Celiac is an autoimmune disease, not an allergy. There is a test for genetic marker, but the people who DO test positive may never have the symptoms (but good to know to see if you may pass it to your children) and secondly, those who do NOT test positive may still have the disease (just like Sjogren's and RA....you can have both of those autoimmune diseases but yet test negative to the antibody, genetic tests).

I also ran into 20 year veterans of hospitals (nurses, doctors, etc.) that were under the impression that once your intestines healed, you could go back to eating gluten and wheat, that it is "curable", that you had to actually eat gluten in order to be affected (glue has gluten, hair products do, etc.).

Living wheat/flour/sugar free is totally different than living completely GF (gluten free). I thought I would be ok just cutting out wheat from my lowcarb diet, but there were tons of things I had to cut out, one of my favorites was cream cheese (because the end of the villi is where the lactase comes from, and my villi are worn flat because of the damage of glutens) and also because of the cassein in most of it.

I was also using canned broth, and then being glutened by it, as well as a lot of things (nuts) that have been cross-contaminated by the machinery it was run on.

12-02-2003, 08:48 PM	#1
Rebecca1979 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indian Trail, North Carolina Posts: 954 Gallery: Rebecca1979 Stats: I don't weigh myself. WOE: Atkins Start Date: May 12, 2008	Gluten Free and Low carb? What is the difference???? Thanks in Advance! Rebecca

12-03-2003, 06:07 AM	#3
cl2gas_1 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Central Falls, RI Posts: 2,177 Gallery: cl2gas_1 Stats: 255/254/140 WOE: Atkins for now /back to LCF Start Date: 12/20/ 03	Borderline celiac I just found out I have borderline celiac disease. I was tested because two of my daughters have full blown celiac.....It is hereditary so I guess it came from me... But I have been doing Atkins for just a year now. So I must be in a healing stage. I have not gone for a biopsy yet because of insurance reasons. I do check low carb baking products that may contain vital wheat gluten. My daughter bake gluten free but not sugar free. So I am out on that also... In March after my biopsy it will be difficult following this diet I believe... __________________ Looking for the thinner me...Claire 4'9" Slow but sure... Work in progress... New start ..August 2009 225 here I come.. Everything takes time...

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12-02-2003, 09:29 PM	#2
sfgirl Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hollywood Posts: 318 Gallery: sfgirl Stats: 140/128/117, 5'5" WOE: I KISS like a caveman! Start Date: Feb, 2003	Well, from the sound of this board, it seems like some people can still low-carb using Atkins mixes, etc...These low-carb baking mixes using contain a high amonut of wheat protein (gluten). I personally don't "do" wheat or grains at all, in any forms, nor do I consume dairy. I find that glutens/grains and dairy both make me gain weight with alarming alacrity. So I'm low-carbing without gluten, but some people use mixes, "low-carb" breads, etc. (You'll sometimes hear these type of products referred to as frankenfoods...) I hope that helps! - sf

12-03-2003, 06:42 AM	#4
inatic Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alpharetta,Ga. Posts: 13,806 Gallery: inatic Stats: 182/135 5'4 47!yo 16/4 5 kidlets later! WOE: Coach Supervised Start Date: LowER C since 2/02 wt training 10/15/02	You might want to contact/IM Nonstickpam107 she has many autoimmune diseases as well as celiac's. She has been very successful following low carb and staying gluten free/sugar free.

12-03-2003, 06:52 AM	#5
nonstickpam107 Thyroid Patient Advocate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NE Indiana Posts: 13,937 Gallery: nonstickpam107 Stats: 230/116/120 (BF<26%) WOE: Started w/Atkins/Now BFFM Start Date: Nov. 23 2000	Thanks Ileen, Well, so far, in my studying I've found that "borderline" Celiac is the same as being "borderline" pregnant!! You are, or you are not,,,Celiac is an autoimmune disease, and if you carry the gene, you can do so without having the symptoms (yet). I carried the gene all my life, and got the full-blown symptoms (including abscesses in my lungs and colon) just a few short months ago. The symptoms came on very suddenly because...I've been lowcarbing for three years, and not eating things with gluten in them (mostly because I avoid soy like the plague, as I have thyroid disease, therefore most things for lowcarbers have soy as well as wheat bran or gluten in them). So,,,I got stupid one day, an decided to have a bite of my DH's 100% whole wheat bread...yep, a bite. To the doc, and then to the hospital I went!! I have other autoimmune diseases as well, and Celiac tend to (like so many other autoimmune diseases) go hand in hand with Hashimoto's and Grave's thyroid disease. I have lost the weight, continue to maintain, without gluten or "Frankenfoods" ie: processed lowcarb foods. I substitute for glutens and wheat for things in the recipe rooms, and find that flaxseed meal and almond flour have become staple baking ingredients for me. Do I miss glutens?? NO....I don't. I'm allergic (have a hugely high IgE, and am slated to begin the new Xolair injections very, very soon) and have anaphylactic response to many foods. If you want to know more about hidden glutens (hey, even canned broth is a killer for a Celiac) than do a search for "gluten free list of foods" as well as "Celiac Sprue". You will find a lot of information. Also, go to www.delphiforums.com and look under Health and then Celiac forums, those people there are very supportive and helpful. Pam

12-03-2003, 10:10 AM	#6
tiva MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,314 Gallery: tiva Stats: 5"6", 157/130/133, 45 yo WOE: organic atkins Start Date: 12/02; maintaining since 4/03	Many people who are on gluten-free diets still eat high carb, since rice and potatos and corn are gluten-free.

12-03-2003, 10:30 AM	#7
KastaDiva MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Northwest-- registered 12/2000 Posts: 2,441 Gallery: KastaDiva WOE: Bernstein/Banta--HF, Very LC, Lower Protein Start Date: May 17, 1999	Two very good books that will help people understand about celiac disease and autoimmune response are "Dangerous Grains," and "The Inflammation Syndrome." Also, read up about leaky gut syndrome. We put my DH's autoimmune disease in complete remission by stopping all grains and legumes. I suspect he also had celiac disease, altho he was never diagnosed. We just always sort of thought it was IBS, and we were told by a doctor that his disease caused the bowel problems. I now know he had the bowel disease first, and that caused his crippling disease. My DH has been flare up free since Oct, 2000. Recently, I read it is becoming recognized there is a connection between fructose and celiac disease. KD

12-03-2003, 11:06 AM	#8
nonstickpam107 Thyroid Patient Advocate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NE Indiana Posts: 13,937 Gallery: nonstickpam107 Stats: 230/116/120 (BF<26%) WOE: Started w/Atkins/Now BFFM Start Date: Nov. 23 2000	I've been running into doctor's and other medical personnel that don't know much about the disease, actually. First, Celiac is an autoimmune disease, not an allergy. There is a test for genetic marker, but the people who DO test positive may never have the symptoms (but good to know to see if you may pass it to your children) and secondly, those who do NOT test positive may still have the disease (just like Sjogren's and RA....you can have both of those autoimmune diseases but yet test negative to the antibody, genetic tests). I also ran into 20 year veterans of hospitals (nurses, doctors, etc.) that were under the impression that once your intestines healed, you could go back to eating gluten and wheat, that it is "curable", that you had to actually eat gluten in order to be affected (glue has gluten, hair products do, etc.). Living wheat/flour/sugar free is totally different than living completely GF (gluten free). I thought I would be ok just cutting out wheat from my lowcarb diet, but there were tons of things I had to cut out, one of my favorites was cream cheese (because the end of the villi is where the lactase comes from, and my villi are worn flat because of the damage of glutens) and also because of the cassein in most of it. I was also using canned broth, and then being glutened by it, as well as a lot of things (nuts) that have been cross-contaminated by the machinery it was run on.