Let's talk....YEAST/CANDIDA!!

[duece49424]

Debbie - Hi - Do you remember me? Where have you been? How are you doing? Great to see you....I got the great info about the hard boiled eggs from you...I like them now! What's up?

[TinaBina]

This thread is so interesting.

My accupuncturist is treating me for yeast, he gave me a product called Tanalbit, I get really sick when I try and take it, so for now I'm just doing Atkins and taking ACV. I was doing CO also, but I am having a hell of a time losing weight, so I cut it out to see if there was any change.

My question is: I am on a long term low dose of steroids, I take 4 mg. of Medrol daily. Is it possible to get rid of yeast while taking steroids?

[lisabinil]

This reaction is called the Herxheimer Reaction.

The Herxheimer Reaction

[Debrat3]

Originally Posted by duece49424

Debbie - Hi - Do you remember me? Where have you been? How are you doing? Great to see you....I got the great info about the hard boiled eggs from you...I like them now! What's up?

HI Jane Of coarse I remember you!!! How are you doing? I have been around struggling as usual. I'm finally am excited to think maybe I can feel better. I did the salvia test and it showed I am definately have candida. I even had the little particles floating down. I have taken so many antibotics for acne and it never did work. This thread is just a wealth of information. I just want to thank Tooter for starting this. I had no idea about this stuff. I ordered the extra virgin CO, proboitics, and the oil.....i am brain dead can't even think of the name of it.:blush: (another symtom LOL)
I hope you have luck with this!

[Debrat3]

I have a question. I have hypothyroid along with hasimotos. I am wondering could all of this happened from candida? ANYONE?

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by Debrat3

I have a question. I have hypothyroid along with hasimotos. I am wondering could all of this happened from candida? ANYONE?

I am on thyroid meds and have never read about this in my researchings. Nonstickpam could give a definitive answer.

[lisabinil]

A good book I recommend is "The Diet Cure" by Julia Ross. In particular Chapter 7 Yeast Overgrowth: A Hidden Cause of Food Cravings and Chapter 15 Repairing the Damage Caused by Yeasts.

[Debrat3]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

I am on thyroid meds and have never read about this in my researchings. Nonstickpam could give a definitive answer.

Taking the supplments you take for this, do you seem to have more energy?

[Margot 65]

Candida is one suspected cause of hypothyroidism (Hashimoto's disease, to be exact).

I googled that and found it right away...



Good to know, because there appears to be a connection between celiacs/gluten intolerance and candida, and I know a lot of people who would be interested in that as well..

Wow.... antibiotics, we really paid an outrageous price didn't we

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by Debrat3

Taking the supplments you take for this, do you seem to have more energy?

I don't take any supplements for my thyroid specifically because I am on Armour. I have thyroid nodules that my endo is trying to suppress. I do have more energy since starting Armour but Synthroid caused heart palpitaions for me.

[TinaBina]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

This reaction is called the Herxheimer Reaction.

The Herxheimer Reaction

Yeah, I read about that. I was hospitalized in July with Diverticulitis and I just couldn't put myself through that right now, I gave it two weeks, but it didn't let up.

Any thoughts about the long term steriod use?

[anniemo]

here is something i've found:

Steroids bind with candida, suppressing the immune response, thereby increasing colonization and promoting the spread of candida to cells which are penetrated in search of nutrients.

from this site: Candida Yeast Protection Program - Part 1 Understand and solve your yeast problem naturally

i have to go on and off steroids due to lupus and it always takes me a while to detox from the ordeal.

[kristin4]

Originally Posted by TinaBina

Yeah, I read about that. I was hospitalized in July with Diverticulitis and I just couldn't put myself through that right now, I gave it two weeks, but it didn't let up.

Any thoughts about the long term steriod use?

I was on long term/high dose steroids. I was on them for 1 1/2 years. I took 100mg for 3 months then 60 mg a month for 6 months then 40 mg a month for 3 months... I was slowly weened of them. I suffered from cushings syndrome from the steroids. I also took plaquenil which makes the steroids work better. Anyway, I have yeast issues. My rheumatoid Dr even said it would happen. A side affect of steroid use. I am new to treating it (just started today and things haven't gone well so far). I do not know if treating yeast and still being on steroids will do anything or if it will just waste your money. Maybe someone else on here will know more about yeast and steroids. Maybe you could ask your Dr?

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Prozak

Candida is one suspected cause of hypothyroidism (Hashimoto's disease, to be exact).

I googled that and found it right away...



Good to know, because there appears to be a connection between celiacs/gluten intolerance and candida, and I know a lot of people who would be interested in that as well..

Wow.... antibiotics, we really paid an outrageous price didn't we

*nodding* Yep. They handed them out like candy.

[anniemo]

Originally Posted by kristin4

I was on long term/high dose steroids. I was on them for 1 1/2 years. I took 100mg for 3 months then 60 mg a month for 6 months then 40 mg a month for 3 months... I was slowly weened of them. I suffered from cushings syndrome from the steroids. I also took plaquenil which makes the steroids work better. Anyway, I have yeast issues. My rheumatoid Dr even said it would happen. A side affect of steroid use. I am new to treating it (just started today and things haven't gone well so far). I do not know if treating yeast and still being on steroids will do anything or if it will just waste your money. Maybe someone else on here will know more about yeast and steroids. Maybe you could ask your Dr?

i treat yeast when i'm on steroids. plaquenil and prednisone is the combo i usually have to take. i make sure to take my probiotics and do everything i can to counteract these terribly invasive drugs. it sucks when the drugs prescribed do just as much damage and create just as many side effects as the disease.

[anniemo]

Originally Posted by Tooter

*nodding* Yep. They handed them out like candy.

i'm convinced being over medicated as a child exasperated my predisposition to autoimmune diseases. usually, lupus doesn't rear its nasty head until much later. antibiotics in our water, food supply, and the endless penicillin i was on for misdiagnosed croup (really had asthma and allergies) definitely destroyed my immune system.

[Tooter]

Connection between Candida and Celiac disease?

The Candida Connection and information about celiac disease?

I found this very interesting...


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"Is Candida albicans a trigger in the onset of celiac disease?"

This interesting study compares a specific amino acid sequence found in Candida cell wall protein to a gliadin amino acid sequence that triggers the immune response in celiac disease. The researchers found that the sequences are “identical or highly homologous to known celiac disease-related alpha-gliadin and gamma-gliadin T-cell epitopes,” and PROPOSE THAT CANDIDA IS THE TRIGGER FOR CELIAC DISEASE....Lancet. 2003 Jun 21;361(9375):2152-4.

To clarify, this research shows that a protein found in the cell wall of Candida is very simiilar to gluten. As a result, the immune system can confuse gluten found in grains for the cell wall of the Candida and then mount a response against the gluten! The immune cell bound gluten then damages the small intestinal wall as in Celiac Disease!

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[Tooter]

Another very interesting Article!!

CANDIDA and the ANTIBIOTIC SYNDROME



Now, anyone know anything about Lugol's Solution (Iodine)?

This seems to be a "treatment" as well, but I don't know much about it.


As for Urine Therapy...I think I'll pass!

[kathy76]

I have known for a long time that I have had yeast issues But until recently I never connected yeast with the out of control CRAVINGS that I get I will be going along just fine eating on plan, exercising feeling like "nothing can stop me now"........Then BAM out of nowhere I start craving sugar
I want to stay on plan so.....I end up looking around for "LEGAL" things that I can put in my mouth to try and satisfy my urges. I end up eating TOO many nuts or peanut butter usually (because I do not eat these daily, they are more like a treat to me) I over eat these items but they never really STOP the cravings. I will then end up going to bed, waking up in the morning up about 2 1/2 lbs And then work my but off trying to remove those lbs I gained from the binge. This has basically been my story for the past year
I NEED to deal with the yeast issues NOW. I know this is what I need to do to get to GOAL!! I have been SO close for awhile now but have never gotten there. I also notice that after a binge I look about 5 months pregnant Right around my belly button I bloat out like crazy!!


Tooter, Fawn, Lisa......Do you ladies think I should start off with CO, Probiotics, Oil of oregano, ACV, lemon water? What combo, or all of the above?

I am desperate to rid myself of this.....I also have acne I am hoping is involved in this. I truly believe the yeast is holding me back.

TIA, Kathy

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by fawn

no lemons will cleanse the liver. limes taste good though!

Enjoy that sauna.....the heat will do you good in helping to detoxify

Gosh, I wish I had a Sauna!! I have heard that sweating (exercise and any other form of sweating) is very helpful with the detoxing/die off.

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by kathy76

I have known for a long time that I have had yeast issues But until recently I never connected yeast with the out of control CRAVINGS that I get I will be going along just fine eating on plan, exercising feeling like "nothing can stop me now"........Then BAM out of nowhere I start craving sugar
I want to stay on plan so.....I end up looking around for "LEGAL" things that I can put in my mouth to try and satisfy my urges. I end up eating TOO many nuts or peanut butter usually (because I do not eat these daily, they are more like a treat to me) I over eat these items but they never really STOP the cravings. I will then end up going to bed, waking up in the morning up about 2 1/2 lbs And then work my but off trying to remove those lbs I gained from the binge. This has basically been my story for the past year
I NEED to deal with the yeast issues NOW. I know this is what I need to do to get to GOAL!! I have been SO close for awhile now but have never gotten there. I also notice that after a binge I look about 5 months pregnant Right around my belly button I bloat out like crazy!!


Tooter, Fawn, Lisa......Do you ladies think I should start off with CO, Probiotics, Oil of oregano, ACV, lemon water? What combo, or all of the above?

I am desperate to rid myself of this.....I also have acne I am hoping is involved in this. I truly believe the yeast is holding me back.

TIA, Kathy

Coconut oil would be a great start.

[Tooter]

Kathy76, sometimes a Mini fast can really help, when you have gone off plan and are having awful cravings. It's the yeast screaming that they want fed.

I'm not talking about a fast for days or anything. Actually, you could just fast a meal or 2 (doesn't even have to be an entire day). Then start eating with strict low carb. Nothing to feed the yeast.

This seems to get things under control, pretty fast (at least for me).

[kristin4]

Originally Posted by anniemo

here is something i've found:

Steroids bind with candida, suppressing the immune response, thereby increasing colonization and promoting the spread of candida to cells which are penetrated in search of nutrients.

from this site: Candida Yeast Protection Program - Part 1 Understand and solve your yeast problem naturally

i have to go on and off steroids due to lupus and it always takes me a while to detox from the ordeal.

Thanks for the link, it was very helpful.
I wish my Dr would have told me to treat for yeast while taking the meds. She didn't, she only mentioned that this would most likely happen. I just thought it would go a way on its own. I had no idea that I had to watch what I ate at the time or that it would build up to toxic levels in my body. She did ask often if carbs were making me feel worse, but offered no solution.

Could you please explain what it is that you do and do not do while taking your meds.

Thanks, Kristin

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by Tooter

Coconut oil would be a great start.

I agree start slowly. Start with co for a few days and see how it goes than start adding 2-3 tbls of acv to your water. As for the other supps for candida it is very much YMMV. Add slowly and give it at least a week or two and note how you feel. Often you will feel worse and then begin to start feeling better.

[kathy76]

Thanks, Lisa & Tooter for the advice
Since I will be going to the natural grocery to get the CO, I will go ahead and pick up the ACV while I am there.

[Margot 65]

let me add some TMI, but another symptom not talked about much is an itchy anus.

Both with candida symptoms and die off....

In ANY case.. candida is a very high probability for everyone, including our children and pets.

Coconut oil and probiotics should be a staple in every home, and ACV as well (kids won't like it so much, dogs will take a bit in some wet food, or maybe a bit diluted in their water). ACV is also great for a rinse for both us and our pets after a shampoo...

I also think that endometriosis is related to candida.. as well as painful menstrual cramps if you have not been diagnosed with endio.

I am glad this came up because I needed to get it back in my life as well, so thanks!

[fawn]

Originally Posted by kathy76

I have known for a long time that I have had yeast issues But until recently I never connected yeast with the out of control CRAVINGS that I get I will be going along just fine eating on plan, exercising feeling like "nothing can stop me now"........Then BAM out of nowhere I start craving sugar
I want to stay on plan so.....I end up looking around for "LEGAL" things that I can put in my mouth to try and satisfy my urges. I end up eating TOO many nuts or peanut butter usually (because I do not eat these daily, they are more like a treat to me) I over eat these items but they never really STOP the cravings. I will then end up going to bed, waking up in the morning up about 2 1/2 lbs And then work my but off trying to remove those lbs I gained from the binge. This has basically been my story for the past year
I NEED to deal with the yeast issues NOW. I know this is what I need to do to get to GOAL!! I have been SO close for awhile now but have never gotten there. I also notice that after a binge I look about 5 months pregnant Right around my belly button I bloat out like crazy!!


Tooter, Fawn, Lisa......Do you ladies think I should start off with CO, Probiotics, Oil of oregano, ACV, lemon water? What combo, or all of the above?

I am desperate to rid myself of this.....I also have acne I am hoping is involved in this. I truly believe the yeast is holding me back.

TIA, Kathy

You're probably right! It's feeding off that peanut butter too....cut those little suckers off.

I recommend both Coconut Oil and pro-biotics to begin with. You need to not only irradicate the yeast but as well, build your flora so your body can assist you in fighting this.
As others have suggested, super 8 or my personal favorie Ohira's.

Tooter, if you can get to a steam room, that will serve you well.

[emslight]

I know it was mentioned further up but not sure if we agreed what sort of dosage of probiotics to take. I always thought it was 2 before bed...

[fawn]

Originally Posted by Prozak

let me add some TMI, but another symptom not talked about much is an itchy anus.

Both with candida symptoms and die off....

!

Good point prozak. I must confess, this was one of my first symptoms of yeast. TMI but want you to know you're all normal! (those with "the itch you know where")

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Prozak

let me add some TMI, but another symptom not talked about much is an itchy anus.

Both with candida symptoms and die off....

In ANY case.. candida is a very high probability for everyone, including our children and pets.

Coconut oil and probiotics should be a staple in every home, and ACV as well (kids won't like it so much, dogs will take a bit in some wet food, or maybe a bit diluted in their water). ACV is also great for a rinse for both us and our pets after a shampoo...

I also think that endometriosis is related to candida.. as well as painful menstrual cramps if you have not been diagnosed with endio.

I am glad this came up because I needed to get it back in my life as well, so thanks!

Very true.

Prozak, another thought here... I wonder...If the people who do VERY low carb (like in the 0 carb thread) have more of an issue with Candida then others? They feel better and lose better when they are very stict with their carbs.

One of those RANDOM thoughts I have.

I know, in that thread, they have gotten some flack from people saying they should go up the carb ladder etc... But I have been there and done that in maintenance and it Didn't work for me (going up the ladder).

I also did not feel as well as I do when my carbs are lower. It's like I slowly started going backwards. It didn't happen over night and when I realized what was happening, I went back to being strict, because I "felt" better that way.

Any thoughts?