GAH!

lancer1977 · 09-29-2009, 03:16 PM

Soooo I was feeling pretty awsome today. First day of OWL, lost 8-9 lbs on induction, decided to take the Mrs to BD Mongolian Grill. For those not familiar they have almost every meat and veggie on a salad bar and you stuff a bowl and the grill your delicious concoction. Well I went to their website to check carb counts. Decided on Soy. I am not 100% sure but I couldnt find plain soy and got SOY ****** which I couldnt recall seeing that. Ends up instead of eatting something which was 1 carb per serving, it was 12. More then likely. So I had 20+ carbs for lunch instead of 8. pfft. So I get to pray my body doesnt kick me out of ketosis now and lose my good gains. On the plus side, Mrs had buffalo shrimp scalops and steak. Hers was 0 carbs and tasted better then mine... lol. Oh well. Live and learn.

peanutte · 09-29-2009, 06:50 PM

Eek--those stealth sauces can really pack a carbobydrate wallop. I'm sorry that happened even though you tried to be mindful! But like you said, you know better for next time, and anyway I applaud you for looking it up online so at least you know what you're dealing with!

2big4mysize · 09-30-2009, 10:44 AM

you just learned a very very valuble lesson many low carbers learn the hard way like you did. NEVER put anything in your mouth until you know the carb count and if it is legal for your phase of the plan.

what for some rebound carb issues later tonight. they are mental not blood sugar related but boy can they cause cravings.

peanutte · 09-30-2009, 11:54 AM

To be honest, I advise people on Induction or even in OWL, to stay away from the kinds of foods that typically involve sauces. No Chinese, no Indian, no Thai, no Vietnamese, no Mongolian BBQ until you are well on your way to establishing Atkins as a lifestyle.

If you cannot verify what's in it, stay away from it.

There are certain dishes that can be low-carb friendly but I just don't think it's worth risking the "surprise!" factor when you are in the early months of establishing a fat-fueled way of life. I did it a few times myself, trying my best to keep things low carb, but the fact is I didn't know for sure and in each case I felt like it threw me off my game a little.

Even cream-and/or-cheese-based sauces---like the ones in Italian or French cuisines--at restaurants are a risk. They probably have flour or some kind of thickener in them.

That's why I learned to eat more and more simply and "cleaner" in this, my 2nd experience with Atkins. I don't want any surprises, and believe me, they put sugar and cornstarch and High Frustose Corn Syrup in freakin' everything.

There are lots of things you can eat at restaurants. My partner gave me a little guff, early on, when we wanted to go out to eat and I kept vetoing his suggestions for Asian or other types of foods. I said "Sorry, I need to go somewhere that I can get plain old protein and salad. No mystery sauces."

It is true that sometimes you could potentially ask for a special order of just the meat/chicken/shrimp/whatever and veggies, prepared without sauce, but the fact is, communication is a big issue at most of the ethnic restaurants I've been to--and if I can't be sure they can understand my request then forget it, I won't go there. It's not their fault or my fault; it's just the way it is.

2big4mysize · 09-30-2009, 12:10 PM

oh and it isn't just sauces as I found out ordering collard greens at a southern restaurant.

I saw the bacon and the red peppers and thought boy this will be great and then I had a forkful and nearly choked. they add sugar to the greens!!!

lancer1977 · 10-22-2009, 04:03 PM

so we went back to the Mongolian Grill today. I learned the sauce I used was your standard terriyaki, 3 carbs per serving. Not too bad. I did have another GAAAAH experience tho.

I was looking up beer carbs on the net the other day saw that Ultra was 3.5 or something, and that other beer was similar... Well I must have been looking at a list of LIGHT beer because I went to the local winery and found a 4 pack of Sam Adams Double Boch Beer... by God it was delicious. The first swig I took I knew there was a problem. Tasted too good, and it was. For the record I dont know HOW many carbs are in it. I do know that SAM ADAMS LIGHT has 9.7 carbs, and about 120 Calories, i also know that Sam Adams regular is 160 calories and Double Bock is 240, I can only assume its 20+ carbs. Also, its 9.5% alchohol and advertises it has as much hops as is used for an entire loaf of bread. (Hops or wheat or some item). I drank about half of it, and, go figure, I lost half a pound that day after a 3 week stall. The day after I drank plenty of water, and I lost another pound. Woot. So not sure if I fooled my body or what but it worked out in the end.

Tril · 10-24-2009, 12:11 PM

I couldn't find a carb count on that beer... but along the way found this list with many carb counts:

Beer Calories, Beer Alcohol, Beer Carbohydrates.

Just for future reference.

StephStu · 11-10-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

oh and it isn't just sauces as I found out ordering collard greens at a southern restaurant.

I saw the bacon and the red peppers and thought boy this will be great and then I had a forkful and nearly choked. they add sugar to the greens!!!

No, they don't add sugar. It comes from the sugar cured bacon or pork they cook them with for flavoring. I always make sure my ham hocks are not sugar cured when I get them. Besides that, collard greens that have been through at least one frost actually are a little sweet.

2big4mysize · 11-10-2009, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StephStu

No, they don't add sugar. It comes from the sugar cured bacon or pork they cook them with for flavoring. I always make sure my ham hocks are not sugar cured when I get them. Besides that, collard greens that have been through at least one frost actually are a little sweet.

I am well aquainted with collards and how to fix them I grow them in my garden boxes. however I suggesat you check with the cook at any resturant you order them at because according to the cook at Sagebrush they add 1/2 cup of sugar to the collards pot when cooking them.

peanutte · 11-10-2009, 09:20 PM

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according to the cook at Sagebrush they add 1/2 cup of sugar to the collards pot when cooking them.

That's so annoying, 2big! Well, at least you know how to cook them the way you like them at home. I remember back when I was vegetarian I ordered green beans once and they were Southern-style and had been cooked in some kind of pork stock.

With chunks of pork in them.

09-29-2009, 03:16 PM	#1
lancer1977 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 229 Gallery: lancer1977 Stats: (297)267/229/180 WOE: DANDR Start Date: 8/15/2008	GAH! Soooo I was feeling pretty awsome today. First day of OWL, lost 8-9 lbs on induction, decided to take the Mrs to BD Mongolian Grill. For those not familiar they have almost every meat and veggie on a salad bar and you stuff a bowl and the grill your delicious concoction. Well I went to their website to check carb counts. Decided on Soy. I am not 100% sure but I couldnt find plain soy and got SOY ****** which I couldnt recall seeing that. Ends up instead of eatting something which was 1 carb per serving, it was 12. More then likely. So I had 20+ carbs for lunch instead of 8. pfft. So I get to pray my body doesnt kick me out of ketosis now and lose my good gains. On the plus side, Mrs had buffalo shrimp scalops and steak. Hers was 0 carbs and tasted better then mine... lol. Oh well. Live and learn. __________________ "Do, or do not, there is no try." 08/08 - 267 \| 10/08 - 250 \| 05/09 - 252 \| 06/09 - 242 \| 09/09 - 243 \| 10/09 - 235 \| 10/28 - 230 (goal 1) \| 11/09 - 227

09-30-2009, 11:54 AM	#4
peanutte Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,905 Gallery: peanutte Stats: 212 (before Atkins)/188 (Jan.'09)/136.2/140 WOE: Atkins Pre-Maintenance Start Date: 01/03/09	To be honest, I advise people on Induction or even in OWL, to stay away from the kinds of foods that typically involve sauces. No Chinese, no Indian, no Thai, no Vietnamese, no Mongolian BBQ until you are well on your way to establishing Atkins as a lifestyle. If you cannot verify what's in it, stay away from it. There are certain dishes that can be low-carb friendly but I just don't think it's worth risking the "surprise!" factor when you are in the early months of establishing a fat-fueled way of life. I did it a few times myself, trying my best to keep things low carb, but the fact is I didn't know for sure and in each case I felt like it threw me off my game a little. Even cream-and/or-cheese-based sauces---like the ones in Italian or French cuisines--at restaurants are a risk. They probably have flour or some kind of thickener in them. That's why I learned to eat more and more simply and "cleaner" in this, my 2nd experience with Atkins. I don't want any surprises, and believe me, they put sugar and cornstarch and High Frustose Corn Syrup in freakin' everything. There are lots of things you can eat at restaurants. My partner gave me a little guff, early on, when we wanted to go out to eat and I kept vetoing his suggestions for Asian or other types of foods. I said "Sorry, I need to go somewhere that I can get plain old protein and salad. No mystery sauces." It is true that sometimes you could potentially ask for a special order of just the meat/chicken/shrimp/whatever and veggies, prepared without sauce, but the fact is, communication is a big issue at most of the ethnic restaurants I've been to--and if I can't be sure they can understand my request then forget it, I won't go there. It's not their fault or my fault; it's just the way it is. Last edited by peanutte; 09-30-2009 at 11:56 AM..

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09-29-2009, 06:50 PM	#2
peanutte Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,905 Gallery: peanutte Stats: 212 (before Atkins)/188 (Jan.'09)/136.2/140 WOE: Atkins Pre-Maintenance Start Date: 01/03/09	Eek--those stealth sauces can really pack a carbobydrate wallop. I'm sorry that happened even though you tried to be mindful! But like you said, you know better for next time, and anyway I applaud you for looking it up online so at least you know what you're dealing with!

09-30-2009, 10:44 AM	#3
2big4mysize Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7,512 Gallery: 2big4mysize Stats: 313 to current goalie 169-173 WOE: Atkins 2002 Start Date: june 1 2002	you just learned a very very valuble lesson many low carbers learn the hard way like you did. NEVER put anything in your mouth until you know the carb count and if it is legal for your phase of the plan. what for some rebound carb issues later tonight. they are mental not blood sugar related but boy can they cause cravings.

09-30-2009, 12:10 PM	#5
2big4mysize Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7,512 Gallery: 2big4mysize Stats: 313 to current goalie 169-173 WOE: Atkins 2002 Start Date: june 1 2002	oh and it isn't just sauces as I found out ordering collard greens at a southern restaurant. I saw the bacon and the red peppers and thought boy this will be great and then I had a forkful and nearly choked. they add sugar to the greens!!!

10-22-2009, 04:03 PM	#6
lancer1977 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 229 Gallery: lancer1977 Stats: (297)267/229/180 WOE: DANDR Start Date: 8/15/2008	so we went back to the Mongolian Grill today. I learned the sauce I used was your standard terriyaki, 3 carbs per serving. Not too bad. I did have another GAAAAH experience tho. I was looking up beer carbs on the net the other day saw that Ultra was 3.5 or something, and that other beer was similar... Well I must have been looking at a list of LIGHT beer because I went to the local winery and found a 4 pack of Sam Adams Double Boch Beer... by God it was delicious. The first swig I took I knew there was a problem. Tasted too good, and it was. For the record I dont know HOW many carbs are in it. I do know that SAM ADAMS LIGHT has 9.7 carbs, and about 120 Calories, i also know that Sam Adams regular is 160 calories and Double Bock is 240, I can only assume its 20+ carbs. Also, its 9.5% alchohol and advertises it has as much hops as is used for an entire loaf of bread. (Hops or wheat or some item). I drank about half of it, and, go figure, I lost half a pound that day after a 3 week stall. The day after I drank plenty of water, and I lost another pound. Woot. So not sure if I fooled my body or what but it worked out in the end.

10-24-2009, 12:11 PM	#7
Tril Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Maine Posts: 167 Blog Entries: 6 Gallery: Tril Stats: 49 yo, 5'4", CW 131.5, highest adult wt 225 WOE: current: low carb (<20) Start Date: started controlling carbs Nov 04	I couldn't find a carb count on that beer... but along the way found this list with many carb counts: Beer Calories, Beer Alcohol, Beer Carbohydrates. Just for future reference.