Atkins Stage 2: Ongoing Weight Loss

[jamistar77]

you girls are so smart thanks for the help and support!

[peanutte]

We want you to succeed--and enjoy yourself too!

yep we eat more veggies then any other diet plan that isn't vegetarian.

And don't I love to have that fact ready to throw in anyone's face who tries to discredit my diet as consisting of cheese, bacon and fatty steaks.

[jamistar77]

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Hi Peanutte. Those values that I stated are for the minimum net carbs from veggies. Im assuming that people on different levels and rungs on Atkins can adjust according to there levels.

[ozdancer]

Yeah peanutte, but I LOVE the looks I get when people ask me about my weight loss and I tell them I have had bacon & eggs for breakfast almost everyday for over 6 months! Priceless!!!

[peanutte]

Thanks, Jami!

oz, I don't like to emphasize the bacon and eggs I have for breakfast--I like to say I eat three balanced meals a day with protein and fat at every meal and at least eight to ten servings of fresh veggies (the food pyramid calls a serving a half cup, I think). Can they say the same about their own diet? No.

[ozdancer]

Thankfully there isn't quite as much stigma or miss information about Atkins in Australia. If people have heard of it they don't have quite the 'meat only' idea. Mostly the breakfast menu has come up with a few overweight people telling my that a bowl of cereal is a healthy breakfast yet they are still overweight and me with my bacon/eggs has dropped close to 80lbs in 6.5months!!

[peanutte]

Some people can lose weight very well on lower-fat/higher-carb. I suspect that many of these people were eating too much food in general and too much of the dreaded high-fat/high-carb combination foods. So for them that may well be a healthier choice. And that's great!

But when a seriously overweight person dispenses anti-low-carb diet advice, I'm sorry but I'm not going to put much stock in it. Talk to me when your plan has worked for you for at least six months and you're making it a lifestyle.

[ozdancer]

[2big4mysize]

Originally Posted by jamistar77

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Hi Peanutte. Those values that I stated are for the minimum net carbs from veggies. Im assuming that people on different levels and rungs on Atkins can adjust according to there levels.

I just want you to know that the person running that challenge just picked those numbers herself and they are in no way recomeneded nor endorsed by Dr Atkins for anything past induction.

[peanutte]

Thank you! I didn't want any newbies to be misled.

[2big4mysize]

hey if any of you use a heater that burns anything even it said heater is outside install a carbon monoxide monitor and if you have one check the date on it as they only work for 5 yrs. Found out the hard way and will be adding new blood work to my doc appointment this afternoon after our heater stopped working and the repair guy yesterday explained it was leaking CO into our house so he pulled the fuses until it can be replaced later today. The fricking monitor said no dangersous CO levels just the standard 5 it had been showing since it was installed back in the 90s. The new one this morning said 100 and beeped like crazy alarming.

[jamistar77]

Originally Posted by peanutte

Thank you! I didn't want any newbies to be misled.

Oh my, I dont want to mislead anyone. I thought it would be a healthy fun way for people to swap out their LC bars and other products, and instead get some more veggies in there diet. Im assuming that they would keep track of their net carbs from all foods thoughout the day and keep them according to what they know they have to have, for themselves, on there own personal level of the diet. I read a lot of thread where people post their menus and it seems like their carbs come mostly from eggs, cheese, hwc, peanutbutter, lc products and other items instead of veggies.

[peanutte]

I read a lot of thread where people post their menus and it seems like their carbs come mostly from eggs, cheese, hwc, peanutbutter, lc products and other items instead of veggies.

I completely agree with what you're saying about getting more of those grams from veggies and not from these kinds of foods. Especially bars and such.I hope the challenge goes well!

2big, that's kind of scary.

[2big4mysize]

Originally Posted by jamistar77

Oh my, I dont want to mislead anyone. I thought it would be a healthy fun way for people to swap out their LC bars and other products, and instead get some more veggies in there diet. Im assuming that they would keep track of their net carbs from all foods thoughout the day and keep them according to what they know they have to have, for themselves, on there own personal level of the diet. I read a lot of thread where people post their menus and it seems like their carbs come mostly from eggs, cheese, hwc, peanutbutter, lc products and other items instead of veggies.

Jamistar I think your challenge is a great idea to get veggie into low carbers and not junk. Maybe you could jsut say the challenge is to make at least 1/2 of the total amount of carbs they eat to be veggies regardless of what phase they are in? That should make for some healthy eating and lots of recipe sharing for ways to fix those veggies!

[2big4mysize]

Originally Posted by peanutte

2big, that's kind of scary.

not half as scary as showing up today a full day early for my doc appointment LOL. No wonder nobody was smiling today nor wearing their Orange

[peanutte]

Maybe you could jsut say the challenge is to make at least 1/2 of the total amount of carbs they eat to be veggies regardless of what phase they are in? That should make for some healthy eating and lots of recipe sharing for ways to fix those veggies!

Yeah! Please do not get the impression that I don't support you in this endeavor, because I really do.

showing up today a full day early for my doc appointment

Uh oh.

[peanutte]

People, I have been getting lazy. Now, the funny thing is, what that means for me is not carb creep. It means the opposite! I am used to the portions of salad and vegetables that feel comfortable to me, and I haven't been eating enough from the more-than-just-veggies rungs. I'm going to have to work more on getting more carbs in, and so today I had a Fage with 1/4 cup berries and God, it was delicious.

My goal for next week is to eat some carbs from other rungs, and maintain this week's weight. I have been having higher-rung carbs on the weekends, but I need to do it during the week, too, so I can plug it into Fitday and track it better.

I also need to be doing more resistance stuff with weights, pushups, lunges, etc. I can set my elliptical on higher resistance, which makes it more of a weights exercise than aerobic.

So those are my things to work on right now.

[jamistar77]

Gosh Peanutte, you are still dropping weight!! Good job! Do you have a new goal? What carb levels are you at for a typical day? I wish I could just fast foreward through my stall so I can get off my Extended Induction.

So, during this last week I started OWL. Everyother day I had my extra 5 net carbs from veggies. By Friday I felt extrememly bloated, heavy and I am up one pound. I know, its only 1, but it still concerns me. I just added in some more veggies in at breakfast, and a couple more for my salad and dinner. I tried to space the carbs out through the day. I know my Metebolic resistance is low, but this is rediculous. I am doing induction levels during this weekend and then I'll do everyother day again during the next week. So far for me, I lost 11 pounds in first 10 days of induction and I've been stuck for 5 weeks there after. I guess only time will tell. I am going to stick this out until Christmas and see how it goes. Im just feel like I'm at a loss. Im so strick, about the food list which I dont vear away from, no fake foods. ???

[johnny31]

Originally Posted by jamistar77

Everyother day I had my extra 5 net carbs from veggies. By Friday I felt extrememly bloated, heavy and I am up one pound.

Did you add veggies that you've been eating during Induction? Or something new?

What veggies, by the way? You might want to post a menu.

The gain could be caused by extra soluble fiber in your diet... in which case it should go away quickly.

I know my Metebolic resistance is low [...] So far for me, I lost 11 pounds in first 10 days of induction

With 11 lbs in the first two weeks of Induction, you are certainly not metabolically resistant.

[peanutte]

Jami, your stats say you started at 145-149ish. Let's say you started at 149 and lost 11 pounds in the first 10 days. With nineteen pounds to lose, you lost over half of your total intended weight toward goal! I'm not surprised that your body is hanging on to your new weight for several weeks in a row, because for a person your size, that is a pretty drastic drop--many people in the 200s and 300s don't see an 11 pound loss during Induction. Definitely not metabolically resistant.

[2big4mysize]

Jamistar77 you shed a lot of your body weight over 7% and as peanutte pointed out over 58% of your needed to shed pounds. For me to match that I would have needed to lose 84 pounds during induction. It is very normal for youto have a post induction weight loss slowdown. Just hang in there shedding a pound now with only 7 to go is equal to dropping over 14% of your remaining excess weight. To put that in propective I would have needed to drop 16 pounds to lose that same % of my remaining weigh after induction 14 days which isn't going to happen as fast as you are looking for.

What new veggies did you add for your OWL veggies? your bloating could be a contaninant on them or your body doesn't tolerate that food right now. try removing the new foods if their are any and see if your bloating goes away.

Cover your eyes Peanutte also if TOM is close you could be feeking bloated from that.

[peanutte]

Cover your eyes Peanutte

Hee hee hee!

[jamistar77]

Well, Lets see. I added Pumkin puree. and celery, steamed spinach
Breakfast About 1/2 cup pumkin puree for breakfast (4net carbs)heated and whipped with a little butter, 1 HB egg.
Lunch, 1 cup lettuce, tuna packet, 1/2 celery chopped, 1/4 cup chopped cucumber, 1 oz shredded cheese. kens steak house creamy cesar dressing
snack. 1 celery stick with 1tbs. cream cheese
hamburger patty, 1 oz cheese slice, with mayo, small side salad, 1/4 cup chopped tomato with dressing.
My daily calories are around 1500-1700, 95 grams protein, and my fat percentage on this particular day was 67%. according to myplate. It could be from the extra fiber. I loved eating more veggies thats for sure! Anyways typical higher carb day for me. On my low carb days I omit the pumpkin and have my regular carbs.
Thats me LOL Thanks you guys!

[jamistar77]

Originally Posted by johnny31

Did you add veggies that you've been eating during Induction? Or something new?

What veggies, by the way? You might want to post a menu.

The gain could be caused by extra soluble fiber in your diet... in which case it should go away quickly.

With 11 lbs in the first two weeks of Induction, you are certainly not metabolically resistant.

Oh, Sorry I misssed that. The pumpkin is deffinetly new, at least 1/2 cup at a time. I used to mix it with a little cream cheese and cinnamon for a treat sometimes during induction, but not very often. Celery is new for sure and cucumbers.

[jamistar77]

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

Jamistar77 you shed a lot of your body weight over 7% and as peanutte pointed out over 58% of your needed to shed pounds. For me to match that I would have needed to lose 84 pounds during induction. It is very normal for youto have a post induction weight loss slowdown. Just hang in there shedding a pound now with only 7 to go is equal to dropping over 14% of your remaining excess weight. To put that in propective I would have needed to drop 16 pounds to lose that same % of my remaining weigh after induction 14 days which isn't going to happen as fast as you are looking for.

What new veggies did you add for your OWL veggies? your bloating could be a contaninant on them or your body doesn't tolerate that food right now. try removing the new foods if their are any and see if your bloating goes away.

Cover your eyes Peanutte also if TOM is close you could be feeking bloated from that.

Wow. That is a good way to put it. Thanks. You are great with numbers. It would take me forever to figure all that out. And the sad part is, i had to take lots of physics classes in College. LOL

[jamistar77]

Originally Posted by peanutte

People, I have been getting lazy. Now, the funny thing is, what that means for me is not carb creep. It means the opposite! I am used to the portions of salad and vegetables that feel comfortable to me, and I haven't been eating enough from the more-than-just-veggies rungs. I'm going to have to work more on getting more carbs in, and so today I had a Fage with 1/4 cup berries and God, it was delicious.

My goal for next week is to eat some carbs from other rungs, and maintain this week's weight. I have been having higher-rung carbs on the weekends, but I need to do it during the week, too, so I can plug it into Fitday and track it better.

I also need to be doing more resistance stuff with weights, pushups, lunges, etc. I can set my elliptical on higher resistance, which makes it more of a weights exercise than aerobic.

So those are my things to work on right now.

Peanutte, it is hard to add all those things in. I didn't even know how I was going to encorporate an extra 5 nets a day of veggies. LOL I heard a lot of people like that FAGE yogurt. I cant wait to try it. I love veggies, but I want NUTS!! LOL I need to do more excersize in general. SInce I hurt my back in May my running career hit its breaks. I go walking a few times a week, about 30 minutes. Its so hard not to start running though. I miss it. It was my "therapy" Oh well. At least I can walk.
Thanks everyone for all your info! Have a great night.

[peanutte]

Oh, I am so sorry to hear about your back. I had never had back problems in my life but in 2007, I must have done something to my back (I suspect it might have had to do with a nasty slip on the ice) and I had lower back muscle pain for months. It sucked. I couldn't go for walks because after about two blocks my back would hurt so bad it had me in tears. It did get better with time and with stretches and by late summer I could lift things and go for walks again. So I haven't had all that much experience with it, but I sympathize with you!

With regard to adding things in: this is where I'm a bad OWLer sometimes. I never ate much fruit anyway, even when I wasn't low carbing, and I have to make a point to remember to plan on having some berries once in a while or else I wouldn't even think about it. I did have fresh picked strawberries and a peach over the summer. (I know, I know--"a peach". Well, that's the truth! ) (I actually had 1/4 cup of berries and a Fage this morning too, like I did yesterday.)

I like squash and pumpkin a lot, and I want to remind myself to use those foods more often. I love beans but it's hard for me to eat a little 1/4 cup serving, and if I have more than that, beans give me crazy cravings due to their starchiness. So, when I eat the kinds of vegetables and salads I like to eat, in the portion sizes that feel comfortable and natural to me, I tend to end up back at Induction levels of about 20 net grams for the day. I can and do eat more carbs at least 2 days a week if not 3. But I feel I need to try a little harder.

Or maybe I don't; maybe this is okay, and maybe this is the way I can eat on Pre-Maintenance--higher carbs and calories some days, lower on other days. It's possible I feel some obligation to eat more carbs to set an example for people who are afraid to move on to OWL and Pre-Maintenance. I get confused about this. Part of me feels I should be making an effort to include higher-rung carbs more often, and part of me feels I should just eat what feels good to me. I guess the thing is, I am not afraid of carbs, I just don't have much a desire to eat more of them.

Oh, about Fage--it isn't my favorite yogurt at all. I love Stonyfield Farms full-fat cream top yogurt. But it doesn't come in little single serve containers, and Fage does. I tried the full-fat Fage and found it too heavy and thick, but I love the fat-free. Normally I detest fat-free dairy, but this stuff was on sale so I bought three of them and was pleasantly surprised. This way I can have a 90 calorie yogurt, enjoy it, and add 6 carbs to my daily count. My fat percentage is at least 60% so I don't need to use yogurt to add to my fats.

[jamistar77]

Yes, as you know back problems do suck! LOl My leg gets numb, weak and tingly when I walk longer than 15 minutes, but I suck it up for as long as I can. I'm glad your back finally healed. Now it seems like you are doing great with excersize and strenth training. This diet really is a science. It seems complicated to us less seansoned atkineers. I guess over time it just becomes second natrure. I go back and forth too about the carb levels. I am really comfortable with 20 carbs a day. I feel like I eat enough, and I feel satisfied. Although, I realize how many more options I can have, so the need to proceed hits hard. I'm glad I came to this thread, the two of you have been insirational and informative. Sometimes I take the things I learn and share it with my friends in another thread, plus I read DANDR quite a bit. Obsessively really. LOL
Have a great night. I'm off for the evening. Back to work tomorrow BLAH

[peanutte]

Now it seems like you are doing great with excersize and strenth training.

Oh honey, no. No, that's why I need to make it a new priority. I am strong now, though--I can lift heavy stuff and do a lot of things I couldn't do.

I go back and forth too about the carb levels. I am really comfortable with 20 carbs a day. I feel like I eat enough, and I feel satisfied

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But, I really do enjoy my weekends too, where I am more liberal with calories and carbs. I feel like it's a good balance for me.

[jamistar77]

Well Peanutte, what ever you are doing its working for ya sister! I have a gym membership, actually we have a free fitness center at the hospital I work at. I used to go there all the time, until back... Now Im just trying to find out what I can do that is tolerable. I bought some workout dvds, a Pilates and Yoga. I think the stretching and core strengthening will help get me going again. Have you ever done either of those workouts? I did pilates classes years ago, but I dont remember if I had any success from them LOL I was a lazy excersizer at that point in my life.
When it comes to hunger, what happens at night when the moon comes out. I turn into a hungry beast LOL Its like I go through some type of metemorphosis or something. LO I swear I just keep thinking, "what else can I eat," gosh, I just need someone to just put me to bed when that happens. LOL