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Old 08-28-2009, 08:25 AM   #1141
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Agreed Peanutte, its good for all of us to share. Once someone said to me that losing was easy and it wa maintaining that was hard...While I wouldn't entirely agree, I think it's for me that maintenance takes focus just as losing does, and it's really easy to increase what you are eating and then the weight creeps back up. So long as I continue to weigh regularly and kick my behind when it goes up 5 lbs per Dr. A's suggestion, then all is well. It takes focus!

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Old 08-28-2009, 08:28 AM   #1142
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Im on day 12 and feeling pretty good although I do have a hard time settling down at night- you too?

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Bella I have to really be careful to not go too low on my carbs or I just cannot sleep. Even with sleep aids I get 4 hours of restless sleep. This has never been such a huge factor in the past but for some reason my body has changed and I cannot sleep. I had an adventure into zero carb for a while and during my ketosis induces insomnia I melted the tupperware salt shaker and a pampered chef spatula to the stove because I was so exhausted!
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Old 08-28-2009, 08:34 AM   #1143
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That's interesting. I never thought of a connection between extremely low carbs and insomnia, but now that I think about it, people sometimes use carbs to help them fall asleep--warm milk, a bowl of cereal before bed...that one book "Potatoes Not Prozac" recommended eating a small baked potato before bed. And we all know how sleepy you can feel after a high-carb meal.

I feel like I sleep pretty well these days. I don't eat anything once I've had my dinner and sometimes I am feeling actual body-hunger by the time I go to bed, hours later, but I forget about it once I'm in bed and reading a book.
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LC has a positive impact on my habit of being exhausted in the middle of the day but wide awake at night until 4am or so. I still can't do the up at 5am, in bed by 9pm thing, but I fall asleep faster (30-45 mins instead of over an hour...) and an hour or two earlier. I think the LACK of insomnia, relative to on a carby diet, is because I'm not downing sugar and caffeine in the evening to combat the late afternoon sleepiness.

I started OWL this week... hope it works out. I know from the past that I can't get too far with carb counts or rungs before I start to gain, so I might move up slowly. Frustrating that I lose super-fast on induction (10 lb is a lot when you're only starting at 130) but at 40g a day or any fruit at all and I will gain weight. :/
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Old 08-28-2009, 12:01 PM   #1145
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Hi, Ryan. I hope you find a way to do OWL that works for you!
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LC has a positive impact on my habit of being exhausted in the middle of the day but wide awake at night until 4am or so. I still can't do the up at 5am, in bed by 9pm thing, but I fall asleep faster (30-45 mins instead of over an hour...) and an hour or two earlier. I think the LACK of insomnia, relative to on a carby diet, is because I'm not downing sugar and caffeine in the evening to combat the late afternoon sleepiness.

I started OWL this week... hope it works out. I know from the past that I can't get too far with carb counts or rungs before I start to gain, so I might move up slowly. Frustrating that I lose super-fast on induction (10 lb is a lot when you're only starting at 130) but at 40g a day or any fruit at all and I will gain weight. :/
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Is that 40 grams with the resistance and aerobic required exercise too?
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That's interesting. I never thought of a connection between extremely low carbs and insomnia, but now that I think about it, people sometimes use carbs to help them fall asleep--warm milk, a bowl of cereal before bed...that one book "Potatoes Not Prozac" recommended eating a small baked potato before bed. And we all know how sleepy you can feel after a high-carb meal.

I feel like I sleep pretty well these days. I don't eat anything once I've had my dinner and sometimes I am feeling actual body-hunger by the time I go to bed, hours later, but I forget about it once I'm in bed and reading a book.
I think it is pretty common and goes away when carbs are increased slightly. When I find the right balance I have so much more energy than I ever had prior to eating LC. Before I began LC'ing I totally used to medicate myself with a bowl of cereal if I could not sleep. I am so glad that those days are behind me!
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I have also had alot more energy since reducing my carbs. Im thinking that I was beginning to get caught in the legal carb trap- too much fruit, oatmeal, nuts. Even those can mess with your blood sugar....Its amazing to me how good I actually feel when I am eating around 20 grams per day! Last night I was really hungry (you know, the kind where you feel really icky) at about 9:30pm so I had 2T cooked oatmeal with a little butter spread and I felt better right away. I just didn't want any more protein!

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Old 08-29-2009, 12:15 PM   #1149
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I loved the extra eneregy and the not needing so much sleep when I was doing extended induction and the early days of OWL. My to do list was never smaller.
I read an article that said if you wake up and can't fall back a sleep with in 15-20 mins get up and do something not exciting and then try again in 30 mins or else you will associate your bed with tossing and turning and not a good way to relax for sleep.
since chores are not exciting that list got smaller but signing on and posting here well dawn comes quickly when you do that.
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Old 08-29-2009, 03:31 PM   #1150
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@#%!!&#!#@!!!!

That was me swearing loudly because we won't be able to get our new fridge delivered for at least a week, the guy at Lowe's said.

Okay, I was fine with being a little trooper while visiting my boyfriend's family, and I was a good sport when we got back and I had to eat out of a cooler filled with ice for the past two days, but I am really, really irritated about this now.
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Old 08-29-2009, 04:55 PM   #1151
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Sorry Peanutte

so much for their next day delivery policy. Call best Home Depot or Sears and see if you can get it earlier from them Tell them Lowes said next week and watch them move to get it to you sooner.
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I don't exercise a lot, but I'm "moderately active" 5 days a week at work, and probably similar to that on my days off. I walk for miles on days off, I'm on my feet all day on the job, etc. Last time I tried resistance training I gained 6 pounds in 3 weeks - I'd be fine with that if I was underweight, but I wasn't.

So far I haven't gained or lost, but it's only been a few days, so as long as the scale isn't going up I'm not going to worry about it.
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Old 08-30-2009, 07:13 AM   #1153
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but the weight gain from resitance training is musle tissues and lean body weight which actually would make your body fat % lower thus making you less overweight.
for exaple if you weighed 140 pounds and had 23% body fat you would have 32.2 pounds of body fat.
If you added 6 pounds of lean body to that 140 pounds you'd scale weigh 146 pounds but your body fat would drop to 22.2% making you a leaner person even though you weigh 6 more pounds.
i added 11 pounds of lean tissue in the first 6 months on my BFL lifting program but dropped 15 pounds of body fat too for a net scale change of just 4 pounds. BUT my body fat went from 25.4% to 17.5% making me a goalie if I'd been checking body fat% even though the BMI and height weight charts said I was still over weight.
Give your body a chance to show you what it can do wiht the resistance part of your atkins.
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My son goes back to school tomorrow. YAY!
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Old 09-01-2009, 09:42 PM   #1155
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How old is he?

I live right near a bike path and it's kind of nice to see the neighborhood kids all walking and biking to school these days. Their backpacks all look too big and heavy for them, though! What are they making the kids bring to school these days--aircraft carriers?! Jeez.

We are using a cheap little secondhand mini-fridge this week until our glorious new fridge arrives on Monday. I've been able to eat the way I like to for the past two days again, and I am so appreciative! I just really like to have my eggs and whatever for breakfast, my Big Salad for lunch, and my protein and veggies for dinner. YAY
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:09 AM   #1156
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Hi all! Been traveling a bit and then enjoying our power go out with the rains. But I had an AWESOME surprise in the mail yesterday - a box from 2big! OMG I was so psyched!!! I'm now tweaking my menus that I had planned for the next few weeks to include some actual VEGGIES, which WOW have we missed. I'm so excited!!! Thank you SO much - hubby was shocked when we got it, I think speachless maybe is a better term, and then he got that hungry wolf like look when he saw there was broccoli LOL

So if anyone has some fabulous recipes or ways to use broccoli, cauliflower and shitaki mushrooms...post away! I mean I have lots of ways I use them (back at home), but I feel like I want to really make it count LOL. First plan is shepards pie, second plan is steak with garlic mashed cauliflower and a shitaki gravy )

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How old is he?

I live right near a bike path and it's kind of nice to see the neighborhood kids all walking and biking to school these days. Their backpacks all look too big and heavy for them, though! What are they making the kids bring to school these days--aircraft carriers?! Jeez.

We are using a cheap little secondhand mini-fridge this week until our glorious new fridge arrives on Monday. I've been able to eat the way I like to for the past two days again, and I am so appreciative! I just really like to have my eggs and whatever for breakfast, my Big Salad for lunch, and my protein and veggies for dinner. YAY
My son is 9, he started 4th grade today. Their backpacks are huge because the school expects half a dozen notebooks, pens, paper, etc. Plus you need to supply tissues, papertowels, lysol wipes..

Does your new fridge have the water/ice thing in the door? I love that feature. Cold filtered water and crushed ice whenever I want it.


Dovelette, I like my brocolli roasted in the oven with a little bit of EVOO & sea salt.
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Old 09-02-2009, 07:06 AM   #1158
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Dove, you seem to do okay eating peanuts, right? I think broccoli, beef (or chicken) and peanuts taste great together in a stir-fry. You could leave the peanuts whole, or roughly crush them. If you don't have ready-made stir fry sauce, you could use cooking oil (I like to use peanut oil for this type of thing), soy sauce, garlic, red pepper flakes, maybe a little lime juice, cilantro, sliced onions...your mushrooms would be good in that, too. 2big, you are an OWL hero for sending that package!

Neko, our new fridge will have ice and water in the door, though not right away, because we have to get someone to hook that up for us since we don't have the necessary water line already in place. I don't remember if I already told you guys--we looked up our old refrigerator ("Sears Coldspot") online and found out they discontinued that model in 1976! So we think it is the original fridge from when the house was built in 1972-1973. Holy cow.
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you are welcome Dovelette. there should be sun dried tomatoes in there too in a baggie and the dark purple stuff is blackberries. a word of caustion rehydrate them before you consume them cause they tend to try on the way down to rehydrate if you don't.

Peanutte get the water line done now while the hole is there where the fridge is going then you don't have to move to to install the waterline asnd you can just screw it on and start making ice right away.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:02 PM   #1160
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2big, I will try to make sure my boyfriend gets our guy over here to do it before the fridge comes!
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Old 09-03-2009, 02:29 AM   #1161
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LOL omg 2big, so the first thing we did when we opened the box (after we could close our gaping mouths) was ransack the berries and each ate one non-rehydrated, so we experienced that "growing" sensation first hand LOL

Were still delicious though!
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Dove, I get this mental image of those little compressed sponges shaped like dinosaurs or whatever, that little kids squirt with water and watch them grow.
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not quite like that Peanutte.

they are berry sized but water free so they soak up moisture and go from dust crumbs in your mouth after you chew them to little berry blobs in your thoat and if they stick to the sides your thoat can become uncomfortable due to the feeling of something being stuck there. But drinking any liquid will wash them all the way to your tummy.

I was going to try them in a gorp like concoction for hiking with Mother but discovered they are not chewy like dried fruits and thus the warnings.
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We are heading to the mountains for labor day weekend. I know all of y'all have wonderful low carb on plan meals planned for your Labor Day celebrations and I'll be reading all about them when we get back and how y'all all stayed on plan and shrunk.
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I hope you have a great weekend! I am wondering which mountains are close to you. Have fun!

Actually, I have nothing whatsoever planned for Labor Day except getting out new fridge delivered on Monday!

I just like that it's a 3-day weekend. Yay!
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Oh I love NC - have a good time! I love the mountains there, some of the best rock climbing that I've done (it's the granite).

I thought I'd go ahead and call it since it's been 2 days...but today I'm at 158.4! FINALLY in another decade, .4lbs from 30lbs lost, AND only 3.5lbs from VFT! I'm SO excited, I nearly cried yesterday when the scale was at 159. Instead I yelled to hubby and just pointed at the numbers with a grin on my face. I got a great big hug )

peanutte, I always feel that when my scale moves it's in part because of your encouragement to watch calories LOL. I find I can be a bit more "lax" about carbs (okay and by THAT I mean that I can enjoy yogurt and 1T of PB in my protein shakes and eat more veggies when we have them, or higher carb veggies like tomatoes and onions since that's all we have) if I'm just not eating as MUCH. For example, yesterday I had my liter of tea with an ounce of cream in it, and a protein shake with 1T PB for breakfast (350 cal). Then leftover quiche for lunch (about 200 calories) and then coconut curry pork for dinner (probably a TON of calories, I think I worked it out before to like 800 LOL). A long way from my 2000 calories/20g carbs a day plan! I also find this way I CAN drink a glass or two of wine and lose. I'm just eating when I'm hungry, no more often. I also owe part of that to JUDDD since it helped me get "in touch with my inner hunger" lol

Anyway...looking forward to continuing to move DOOOOOWN. Still pretty sure that I won't lose 10lbs in a month to meet my goal before mom shows up, but that's ok, I'll get there (and I'm actually now considering more?) eventually!
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I thought I'd go ahead and call it since it's been 2 days...but today I'm at 158.4! FINALLY in another decade, .4lbs from 30lbs lost, AND only 3.5lbs from VFT! I'm SO excited, I nearly cried yesterday when the scale was at 159. Instead I yelled to hubby and just pointed at the numbers with a grin on my face.
FANTASTIC, Dovie! I am so happy for you! How exciting to be so close to a big milestone! I admire your commitment, and also your ability to take challenges and setbacks in stride along with your overall success. You are really working hard!

I'm pleased--but not surprised--that after my one pound gain last week and all the weirdness of traveling and then not having a fridge, I lost that pound (period water-weight, I suspect) and actually got down to 143.8 this week! I knew that once I was able to get back to my three small but healthy meals a day, and being totally aware of my calories on ******, I'd see some progress again. I could just feel it.

How's everybody doing? You quiet ones, check in!
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I must be doing something wrong, though maybe not as wrong as last time. Up to 30g, still spread out throughout the day (no big loads at one time) and the problem is I feel like I'm starving almost all the time. Right after a meal, I'm fine for maybe 45 minutes to an hour, and then it's back. Eating fat does not help much. Eating protein will stretch that safe zone to around 2 hours.

I'm still losing weight and still able to stick to my calorie targets, but this is feeling a lot like low-fat again, except without the energy fluctuations and intestinal difficulties. I haven't added any new foods, just increased portions of vegetables and nuts. UGH!

The good news is that I'm at my recommended target weight and the last 7 are my smoking cessation safety net.
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