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Old 07-30-2009, 04:54 PM   #991
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note to self watch for Dovelette's post about knawing on frozen red meat in a red meat binge

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This means, for the first time since I've been here that we'll be able to buy *drumroll please* RED MEAT!!! It's true! They have cow on the next island over, and we're going to buy a whole freezer full (ok, well a whole mini-fridge freezer full, which comes out to about 6lbs lol). I'm SO excited! I mean I love pork and chicken, but ya know, it's RED MEAT!

WOOHOO!!

Ahhh it's the little things.
Yay meat! I feel for you that you don't have easier access to these types of things over there - but I also bet it is sooooooo amazingly good when you get your hands on it. I hope you really enjoy your cow, I'm excited for you. What are you going to make first?


So I got off my lazy a$$ and figured out my target heart rate and did some expirementing this morning with my HIIT. If I have this right:

Resting heart rate ~75 (that's approximate)
Age 25
Non-athletic (understatement)

so 226 - 25 (age) = 201 (max heart rate)
201 - 75 = 126
126 * 90% = 113
126 * 60% = 76
113 + 75 (resting heart rate) = 188
76 + 75 (resting heart rate) = 151

So during the running part, shoot for ~188 or a bit higher, and try to get it down to ~151 during the slow part. I adjusted my session today to

5 min warm-up
1 min running (5.5 mph)
2 min walking (3 mph)
1 min running
2 min walking
1 min running
2 min walking
1 min running
2 min walking
5 min cooldown

the 188 came easily! The 151, not so much, but I will get there hopefully as I go. I want to be like 2big when I grow up!!

Thanks again everyone for your input - I try not to "tweak" my diet too much but I guess to make up for it I constantly tweak my workouts. I suppose there are worse things.

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Old 07-31-2009, 05:09 AM   #994
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Oh one more thing. In an attempt to remain accountable, I will now shout the following from the OWL-thread rooftops:

NO NUTS, NO DIET SODA, 2 WEEKS. I am getting out of hand. Maybe when I'm a responsible adult I will add them back in.

That is all.
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Rachel, it's really good that you have identified some problem foods and are trying to nip that in the bud. And your workout sounds great. I like the way you do your homework and figure it all out.

I get to celebrate my 40-pounds-since-I-restarted mark today! At the beginning of this, I was 188. Woo!

I realized something embarrassing today...I've been running around saying and thinking that when I did Atkins last time, I stuck with it for more than a year before I went off. But this morning I thought back in time and actually, it was early 2002, not 2001, when I started, and I know that by July of that year, I was already caving in to PB&Js and Cheetos as "treats". I had my dates mixed up in my head! So really, the last time I did Atkins, I only did it successfully for about six months! Good Lord. This time I have gone seven months without falling off and feel stronger than I did before. I will not make the same mistakes again!

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I get to celebrate my 40-pounds-since-I-restarted mark today! At the beginning of this, I was 188. Woo!

I realized something embarrassing today...I've been running around saying and thinking that when I did Atkins last time, I stuck with it for more than a year before I went off. But this morning I thought back in time and actually, it was early 2002, not 2001, when I started, and I know that by July of that year, I was already caving in to PB&Js and Cheetos as "treats". I had my dates mixed up in my head! So really, the last time I did Atkins, I only did it successfully for about six months! Good Lord. This time I have gone seven months without falling off and feel stronger than I did before. I will not make the same mistakes again!

YEAAAAA!!!! I like hearing your reflections like this because we started on the same day. That's a really exciting thing for you to realize - I bet it feels empowering.

Wow, at your weight, 40 pounds in 7 months, that's really phenomenal. I hope to have that type of success when I get down that far.

Ugh... I bet cheetos would be so gross right now. lol
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Hey, we did start on the same day, Rachel! How did I not notice that? ha!

Oh, stupid Cheetos...I used to LOVE them but I honestly haven't had cravings for that kind of food. The cleaner I eat, the less I even think about junk food, I find. That's why I am a big old grumpy-ass about the faux-recipes; if I make cauliflower baked with cheese sauce because I am craving mac and cheese, I am going to sit there thinking: "Well, this is very nice cauliflower with cheese sauce but it sure as hell ain't mac and cheese." And that will cause me to think about the mac and cheese even more. If I were to make "faux pizza" it would just make me wish I had real pizza. So I find it easier and more effective to eat something completely different from the thing I was craving--some roast chicken and green beans, for example.
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peanutte I hear what you are saying about the faux food, but I've always felt like the faux stuff was so far off from the original that it was more like "Wow, this faux pizza is a really awesome Italian veggie and meat quiche!" At least for me here in Africa nothing every turned out even remotely close to the "original" so I never had that problem lol. My personal fav "mock" food has always been the cauliflower fried rice. I actually like it WAY better than real fried rice.
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It's just my personal grumpy-assness, Dove; I don't think it applies to most people.
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peanutte I hear what you are saying about the faux food, but I've always felt like the faux stuff was so far off from the original that it was more like "Wow, this faux pizza is a really awesome Italian veggie and meat quiche!" At least for me here in Africa nothing every turned out even remotely close to the "original" so I never had that problem lol. My personal fav "mock" food has always been the cauliflower fried rice. I actually like it WAY better than real fried rice.
good you can have 24 servings of it when you stuf arrives. hope you like broccoli too.

My faux foods in flax hot cakes and they really are like a harvest grain recipe pancake and flax/ Wheat protein isolate roll that is texture like real ones but way less carbs and healtheir with more fiber and good vits and minerals and fats.
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You hae to explain to me wheat protein isolate. I've seen it in recipes...
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WPI they have discovered through elctrophorisis they can get the ground up wheat flour soy flour or even whey to sperate the proteins from the carbs and fats. it costs more money to isolate the protein and only have protein in your final product so many protein powders will say protein blend and they have used a reduced carb version of the protein with some of the isolate what the ratio is is up the the manufacturere and the lower the carb contene tthe purer the protein.

Also as any baker knows wheat comes in different varieties and some are great for baking cakes and others for making things like noodles.
the protein powder folk make 2 WPI one is called WPI 500 and the other is called WPI 800. the 800 is the one I use for baking breads and it has better bread making proteins then the 500 does.
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Morning! Well, saw some movement on the scale after being steady for over a week. I attribute it 100% to no nuts/peanut butter yesterday.

Yet another reason that it's better for me to be here, the enjoyment of updating my profile stats when the scale moves!

With regards to faux foods, I experimented with some of that stuff in the beginning - faux pizza, mashed cauliflower, minute muffins, tried oopsies, etc... I found that our standards were "how much like the real thing does this taste?" and we strayed away from it. Didn't really make a conscious decision to; those things just never made it on the list when we were making our meal plans from then on. The closest thing I make, on a regular basis, is what I guess you could call "faux pizzas" - zucchini rounds baked in the oven with low sugar marinara sauce, melted cheese, and a pepperoni on top. I don't think of them as pizzas though; they are just little yummy cheesy zuchhini things. We also tend to stray from trying to substitute things for bread, for instance we don't bother putting taco meat in a lettuce leaf anymore, we just pile it on a plate and then have a salad with it.
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Ok I need to get away from this damn computer!!

Dovelette I was reading through a thread that you had started a bit ago about calculating goal weight based on body fat percentage and I had to thank you because I got a lot out of it. That thread combined with some other reading/thinking I've been doing has led me to change my goal - not only weight but also to formally set other goals besides weight. So, revised goals are in my signature now.

Okay I'm LEAVING NOW. Must.... do.... something... social.....

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. . . other than turkey is freakin' expensive around here for some reason. . .

Where is "around here" for you Peanutte?
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. . .NO NUTS, NO DIET SODA, 2 WEEKS. I am getting out of hand. Maybe when I'm a responsible adult I will add them back in. . .
That sounds just like me!! I don't drink diet soda, but the nuts can be a problem. Some people have trouble with sweets, I have trouble with salty, crunchy, mmmmm, mmmm, good!!
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Jeanette, I live in Colorado (Denver area). Turkey isn't THAT expensive--it's like boneless-skinless chicken breast, too; it's just one of those things I don't buy unless it's on sale. I'm pretty frugal.

Lately, though, I've been buying the chicken breast "tenders" instead of breasts. They are cheaper, and since each tender is about 1.5-2 ounces, they're handy for grabbing a small portion to cut up on top of a salad. And because they are small, they cook quickly, which is a bonus in the heat of the summer. And, because there is more surface area in several tenders than in one large breast, they work well for marinating or "breading" with parmesan cheese.
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Chicken tenders

I also keep chicken tenders on hand. They make a great base for "pizza" - my husband loves that dish!

Do y'all think that a stall can be caused by too little calories? I "swayed" off plan a bit yesterday. Nothing "illegal," all within my Rung level, but I overdid it on the nuts bringing my calories over my base of 1,550 (I'm 5'2" and relatively active) and today I'm down 1.5 lbs! Now to just hold onto the loss. I've been up and down around 160-165 for about 3 weeks (post-Induction stall) and I'm ready to move on!
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I guess I am doing owl since I do allow myself up to 30 carbs occassionally and eat more variety of veggies than the induction list allows. I need to reread DANDER and see. I have been on the diet for 6 weeks and lost 9 pounds (which is good for me). Was on Atkins several years ago for over a year and can't for the life of me understand why I quit. I felt great, had energy and depression was gone. Ate 30-40 carbs a day and still lost a pound a week average.

Is this thread always so quiet?
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Hi and welcome, halo! Wow, you might be one of those lucky ones who actually has a higher critical carb losing level. I hope to get up to 40-50 grams a day on Maintenance. I'm at 25-30 right now, though some days it's lower and occasionally it might be higher.

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Was on Atkins several years ago for over a year and can't for the life of me understand why I quit. I felt great, had energy and depression was gone. Ate 30-40 carbs a day and still lost a pound a week average.
Believe me, I too have been there and done that. Don't waste your time kicking yourself for going off plan; just enjoy being back on it now, and try to work out what you might have done that contributed to your veering off-course before.

This thread IS always pretty slow-moving and quiet, because apparently most of the people who start Atkins do so with a quick-fix Induction mentality and don't move on to OWL. It's a shame, but hey, we'll take however many contributing posters we can get!
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Welcome
some folk are on vacation right now but it ebbs and flows when somebody has an OWL issue or an exciting result to post.

and if more OWlers would invite the inductees on ther day 15 posts to come join we might have new folk.

If you need goals there is an AUg goals topic in here too.
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Today was another interesting day, weight wise. Yesterday was my official weigh day - the day I count for the week, although I weigh daily. I weighed in at 164 (hope it holds, I'm ready to get past this post-induction stall). Today I remained at 164, UNTIL after my 18 holes of golf, then I weighed 163.5! And I drank 40 oz of water while on the golf course, too! I will still use the 164 as my official weight, until it changes 1st thing in the a.m. Sure did look good, though!!
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congrats on the new number

cause I rehydrate so much I usually gain doing sports events and gym time
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I guess I am doing owl since I do allow myself up to 30 carbs occassionally and eat more variety of veggies than the induction list allows. I need to reread DANDER and see. I have been on the diet for 6 weeks and lost 9 pounds (which is good for me). Was on Atkins several years ago for over a year and can't for the life of me understand why I quit. I felt great, had energy and depression was gone. Ate 30-40 carbs a day and still lost a pound a week average.

Is this thread always so quiet?
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so how y'all been? Dovelette goes red meat shopping and we all stop talking???
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Hello hello!

Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend. I am on a search for a boneless chuck roast recipe as I got a 5 pounder from Sam's yesterday.

Not much else to report, my husband and I tried out golf this weekend... I'm declaring it a workout! Maybe not so much cardio, but it's a nice stretch and your arms do get a bit tired.

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I'm a little irritated over here because I made chili using kidney beans, and it was good, but I'm up three pounds overnight! What kind of crap is that?! I probably ate about a half cup of them, which is about 12 grams of net carbs. Too many starchy carbs at one time, I think. I know it isn't "real" weight but nevertheless, it's irritating. I am coming to the conclusion that beans are, for me, what nuts are for many other people; I love 'em, but I have a hard time with my portions and they seem to give me a runaway appetite. Lentils are fine, though.

Other than that, I'm good!
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I'm a little irritated over here because I made chili using kidney beans, and it was good, but I'm up three pounds overnight! What kind of crap is that?! I probably ate about a half cup of them, which is about 12 grams of net carbs. Too many starchy carbs at one time, I think. I know it isn't "real" weight but nevertheless, it's irritating. I am coming to the conclusion that beans are, for me, what nuts are for many other people; I love 'em, but I have a hard time with my portions and they seem to give me a runaway appetite. Lentils are fine, though.

Other than that, I'm good!
so you got a reaction to something going on.

Don't jump to the conclusion it is the beans yet or even that chili recipe. you are going to need to repeat eating it the same way and get the same pounds up before you know for sure it was that.

Many folk have a knee jerk reaction to the scale is up what I had new or did new yesterday is the cause when it could be lots of things from an immune system reation to even something as simple ad the temp was hot yesterday. Just noty moving your bowels when you are at rung 6 can add pounds.
So don't give up on legumes yet 1/2 cup didn't add 3 pounds of body fat and I know you know that.
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Hello hello!

Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend. I am on a search for a boneless chuck roast recipe as I got a 5 pounder from Sam's yesterday.

Not much else to report, my husband and I tried out golf this weekend... I'm declaring it a workout! Maybe not so much cardio, but it's a nice stretch and your arms do get a bit tired.

How's everyone?
well you could do a rosemary and garlic one. Pick a pan that is about 3 inches bigger on the sides then the roast. place one medium onion cut in 1/2 vertically in the pan and if you are to rung 8 2 large carrots. balace the roast on the carrots and onions.
you slit the outside of your roast about every 2 inches 1 inch deep and insert a clove of garlic. then top with dried or fresh roasemary and stick in a preheated oven 500 F yep 500 for 20 min.
when your timer goes off turn down to 225 pour 8 ounces of beef stock or water into the pan close the door and cook 20 min a pound without ever opening the door. if you like well done you will need more time.

if you are into wine you can use dry red wine instead of the stock/water.
when you meat is done put on a platter and pour the contents of the pan including the veggies in a blender and puree. then use as gravy.

remember garlic is a carb a clove so know how many carbs per ounce of meat you will allow and use that many cloves. Without the gravy it will be all the carbs in the meat.
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