Back on the Low Carb Diet........

[Osowan Kenobi]

I did the low carb diet last year and lost 65lbs in about 3.5 months. I have been on the yo-yo diet since then and I am now getting strict on the low carb diet again. Problem is I have been in Ketosis for the past 3 weeks and dropped about 9lbs total, which is for me slow but great.
I started eating low carb bread that has 13g of carbs and 12g of fiber per slice. I ate 4 slices for dinner last night and today found myself kicked out of ketosis. Can someone let me in on this and tell me how that happened? Is the bread really not 1g carbs per slice?

[Osowan Kenobi]

I'm begining to get really frusterated with this diet this time around. I started at 305lbs on April 1st. and today I weighed in at 298lbs and I was down to 295lbs a week ago. I have been eating less then 20g of carbs a day and I have also been doing 3-7 mile long hikes in the mountains along with 3 days a week on my total gym. What is the deal? Has anyone else had this kind of situation happen to them or know of a valid reason why my weight is bouncing around so much?

[Houston Heather]

First of all, I wouldn't believe the bread label. I am very very skeptical of labels because I got into trouble the first time I did Atkins. I pretty much just eat meat, dairy, and l/c veggies and avoid processed stuff altogether if possible.

I'm not an expert. I inducted in 2003, made a lot of mistakes, still lost about 70 pounds. I got sick and gained it all back with interest (because I started eating sugar again).

I got sick of being a sugar addict and reinducted this Feb. I have had good results - I'm down a couple of clothing sizes, feel a lot better everyday, and basically feeling hopeful about getting to a healthy happy weight.

You can't just measure scale loss. It sounds like you are working out a good amount, that builds muscle. Muscle has weight too, and you'll be glad you have it. It burns fat when you sleep, and the rest of the day too! I always, ALWAYS tape measure at least 2 places on my body (as a woman, it's waist and hips) so I can keep track of inches lost as well as weight lost. Last week, I was flunctuating up and down about 1-2 pounds, but I lost an inch off my hips. Trust me, I need to lose off my hips.

It took you a while to get fat, it may take you a while to lose it. Our bodies are sneaky. They want to hang onto that fat. We can trick them somewhat with a low carb way of eating and they'll lose the fat easier, but it takes time.

One thing that you may want to consider, are you going to be committing to this as a way of life, or using it as a "diet" everytime you get heavy? I think you'll have better results with plan a.

I noticed my weight loss has stalled pretty much (only lost a few pounds) the last few weeks - when I started running and lifting weight again. I am losing fat, my hip measurements don't lie, so I don't worry about it. Eventually my body will even itself out and I'll get an accurate weight.

As a skinny teen, I was overfat. I didn't have good muscle mass. It was kind of icky, all thin and flabby at the same time. I'd rather weigh a little more and have a healthy, defined, body.

My 2 cents.

[Draxlin]

I lost about 90lbs my first time around back in '04. I have since been on the yo-yo and gained back 65 of that. From my expeirence the weight dosen't come of nearly as easy as it did the first couple times.

Basically your just gonna have to stick with it and if your like me, accept that its not going to come off real fast.

*Don't be eating the frankinfoods
*Make sure to eat enough
*Drink LOTS of water
*Stay under 20carbs till goal
*Set mini goals and reward with a HIGH carb meal

These are just a few rules I follow. Alot of people crazzily believe that you should never have reward meals that consist of high carbs. IMHO thats a bunch of horse crap. You have to reward yourself. I practice a firm approach to this, by having a cheat meal after every 4 weeks. You're not going to gain 10lbs from one meal. As a matter of fact, my biggest drops are always the week after my reward.

[Houston Heather]

My reward is chocolate egg protein powder whipped up with heavy whipping cream. OOOOOOH. Decadent.

[SydneyN]

IMO, you should do strict induction, which means no low-carb "products". And ITA with Draxilin that you should stay away from the frankenfoods.

And I am one of those people that disagree with Draxilin that you should reward yourself with a high-carb meal. I think that will kick you out of ketosis, bring back cravings, and cause weight gain that could take a while to get off. Also, you are telling yourself that low-carb is a diet, not a wol.

I think that even when you are in maintence you should not eat high-carb. Eating higher carb is different than eating high-carb.

And I think Draxalin is the exception to the rule when it comes to being able to go off plan for just one meal. That can set of days, weeks, or months of being off plan for most people (including me).

Also, I don't think food should be used as a reward. Think of other things you would like that are non-food related.

But I do agree that you should drink lots of water, stay away from aspertame and "diet" stuff. Eat as cleanly as possible, make sure you are getting enough fat, calories, and protein and you should be okay.

Have you read DANDR or any other low-carb book? I would highly recommend that you read at least one, if not a few, to see what would best suit you and to understand what low-carbing is all about.

Have a great weekend!!!!

[2big4mysize]

are ytou doing Atkins? if so what plan?

Without knowing what brand and the name of the bread there is no way to know anything about the truth in the bread label.

you had according to your info 48 grams of fiber how'd your intestines like that big a load? as to the scales that 48 grams of fiber will soak up a lot of fluid on its passage our your backside so I wouldn't worry about scale weight issuse for a few days.


the exercise if it is nbew to your body can also cause a fluid weight gain as your body and muscles adjust to their new normal load.

Have you lost any inches? that will show you body fat leaving you as you weight on the scales fluctuates.

Are you eating enough food to satisfy your hunger and stopping or are you just watching the net carbs and eating anything you want?

[CopperTop]

Getting back into LC eating. I lost 40 pounds back in 2003-04 but life got in my way and I let it!
Wish me luck on getting started all over again.
I love reading these boards....alot of inspiration!!

Get Ready, Get Set.....GO!!

[Osowan Kenobi]

I bought the bread from a place called String Beanz in San Diego, CA. Their website is Stringbeanz. The bakery that made the bread is Julian bakery. Their website is Julian Bakery - Organic, Wheat-free, Preservative-free, Wheat Free Bread, Julian Bakery high quality bread!. They make the bread that I bought strictly for the string beanz store. but they have a good selection of breads. What would the reason for me getting kicked out of ketosis if the ECC of the bread is 1g?

On a side note cheers to you Copper Top I hope all goes good for you on the diet. I wish you the best.

[ShannonM]

Originally Posted by SydneyN

Also, I don't think food should be used as a reward. Think of other things you would like that are non-food related.

But I do agree that you should drink lots of water, stay away from aspertame and "diet" stuff. Eat as cleanly as possible, make sure you are getting enough fat, calories, and protein and you should be okay.

Amen to this!!

[Osowan Kenobi]

Things got really busy at work the last couple of days and I only ate 2 protein bars and then a regular low carb dinner and I went up in weight. Not sure what's up with that?

[Houston Heather]

Maybe you're dehydrated. I always gain weight if I'm dehydrated.

[tomswife]

I go by the ingredients as much as I do the carb count. Does it have any type of sugar in it? (And 4 slices is allot) Some of the so called "healthy, organic" has a ton of sugar in some form. If you are doing Atkins, what rung are you on? You need to make sure that all the ingredients of whatever you'll eating is on the list of foods you're allowed to have.

[Osowan Kenobi]

Here is a crazy swing in weight loss..........I had a bet going at my workplace and the losers had to eat 13,000 calories in a day. Well, I was one of the losers and it was probably the worst day ever. I thought I was going to explode!!! But the crazy thing is.....After that day I dropped about 5lbs in weight 3 days later. Is there something to this cheat day? I've herd of weight loss where you do a strict 4-5 days low-no carbs and then have a high carb day and the weight comes off. Has anyone else herd of this or better yet tried it and got some good results with it?

[tomswife]

Originally Posted by Osowan Kenobi

Here is a crazy swing in weight loss..........I had a bet going at my workplace and the losers had to eat 13,000 calories in a day. Well, I was one of the losers and it was probably the worst day ever. I thought I was going to explode!!! But the crazy thing is.....After that day I dropped about 5lbs in weight 3 days later. Is there something to this cheat day? I've herd of weight loss where you do a strict 4-5 days low-no carbs and then have a high carb day and the weight comes off. Has anyone else herd of this or better yet tried it and got some good results with it?

What exactly did you eat?

[SydneyN]

Originally Posted by Osowan Kenobi

Here is a crazy swing in weight loss..........I had a bet going at my workplace and the losers had to eat 13,000 calories in a day. Well, I was one of the losers and it was probably the worst day ever. I thought I was going to explode!!! But the crazy thing is.....After that day I dropped about 5lbs in weight 3 days later. Is there something to this cheat day? I've herd of weight loss where you do a strict 4-5 days low-no carbs and then have a high carb day and the weight comes off. Has anyone else herd of this or better yet tried it and got some good results with it?

When it comes to low-carb, "cheat" days are not a good idea. That five pounds was probably water weight from all the food you ate.

But a cheat day will take you out of ketosis, and it could take you a few days to get back into it.

Also, when you have a mindset of "cheating" you are treating low-carb as a diet and not a WOL. You have to look at it as though you are eating healthier and not just losing weight.

High-carb is a bad idea. Period! Junk food and going off plan to eat refined foods is not a good idea at all.

And I would never agree to eat 13,000 calories. No offense, but that just sounds ridiculous to me. And I think any kind of bet/reward that involves food is not a good idea. You need to look at food as a form of noursishment and a way to fuel your body, not a way to reward yourself. Trust me, I have been there, done that. That is what got me here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

[jeffersonbb]

keep going you (WE) can do it!

[miss sparky]

It's best to just totally avoid any breads......all those 'fake' diet foods that are around can't be good for you.
Atkins says,....no breads, eat clean, get your carbs from veggies.
I go by original atkins. After that it's people wanting to make money from our insecurities with their 'frankendietfoods'
Don't give up.
Good luck

[SusanKH]

I have to agree with Sydney - cheat days are a bad idea, at least for me. One cheat day for sets off a very bad chain reaction of cheat months. However, having said that, I do occasionally treat myself to something a little higher in carbs than what I normally have. For example, on Saturday nights, my family grills steaks and we have a baked sweet potato with it. I find I can eat a small portion of baked sweet potato once a week without it impacting my WOE. Now, if I ate a chocolate candy bar instead of the sweet potato, I'd never stop eating.

[Osowan Kenobi]

Originally Posted by tomswife

What exactly did you eat?

Here is what I ate, but I was soooooooo sick that day, that i will never do it again. It was just a really bad Idea in general and for so many reasons.

2 x Sausage egg mc muffins w/cheese
2 x Hash browns
2 x Cina Bites
2 x Sausage Mc Griddles
5 x Krispy Cremes
4 x King Size Reeses butter cups
3 x Zinggers
1/2 x Costco Combo Pizza
1lb x Dried Prunes
and a trip to the Borona Casino Buffet.

on a side note, I also won $200 while trying not to vomit at the casino.

[Osowan Kenobi]

I want to start using the Coconut Oil, but I am wondering if it would be alright to use it in a low carb protein shake. Also, can you guys help me out and let me know some good ways to use it? Thanks.

I think that I wasn't getting enough fats in my foods and that is why I wasn't dropping the weight like I did before.

[SteveKITH]

Hi, to a fellow San Diegan.
four slices of bread low carb or not is not a good idea. you should try to keep it simple: protein, fats, veggies.
stringbeanz is about a mile from my house by the way.

[Osowan Kenobi]

I noticed that when I was on the low carb and doing heavy lifting that I couldn't drop the weight. I stopped working out all together and the weight started to fall off much quicker. Any comments?

[sassycat]

first of all i would stay away from lowcarb produts if u going it right read the book over and over follow it you will lose and make sure u drinking alot water and working out be strick

[Califrog]

It seems like you're "all over the board" - making bets that cause you to eat 5 Krispy Kreme Donuts, amongst other drek, is an unhealthly lifestyle choice. Don't do that.

My recommendation is to pick a plan that appears to have food and a lifestyle you are comfortable with FOR LIFE, read the book or other instructions that come with that plan, and then follow it.

Waffling around with "cheat" days (unless specifically built into the plan you select and then followed to the letter) and silly bets is a sure way to sabotage anything you're trying to do.

Some folks pick a plan and fool with it and do just fine. Some folks turn on their ovens, forget to turn them off, and their houses don't burn down. One is no more common sense practice than the other.

No excuses. No fooling around. Pick a plan, stick with it, and if after giving it a fair shot it doesn't work, move on to a different, established plan.

[wall]

Originally Posted by Osowan Kenobi

I noticed that when I was on the low carb and doing heavy lifting that I couldn't drop the weight. I stopped working out all together and the weight started to fall off much quicker. Any comments?

yeah, are you high?

[tomswife]

Originally Posted by wall