Low Fat Atkins???? Can This be Done????

[LawyerLongo]

Is it possible to lose and be in Ketosis and be on Atkins while eating High Protein, and Low Fat and Low Carbs???

My rationale is that if I keep my fat low, meaning I eat Fish and Chicken rather than fatty meats etc., then I will utilize more body fat...

My macro ratios are about

1800 calories
320 g protein
15 g carbs

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my other concern is my body thinking i'm starving and shutting my metabolism down?? Any tips??

[SydneyN]

Sounds like what you are wanting to do is Stillman's. Here is a link to that thread: Stillman's - Low Carb Friends.

[luv_bug]

I'm not sure of the answer LawyerLongo -- where are you getting your portein from typically? If you are concerned about cholesterol levels, here is something to think about: I haven't been watching the fat (mind you, I dno't overdo it either) and had my cholesterol taken recently (I had it done before when I was super fat) anyways -- my doctor said that my cholesterol is perfect... so, obviously the diet hasnt' had a negative impact on that realm.

what is your reason for wanting to try it low fat? I wouldn't worry too much about that..

ANYWAYS -- also, be careful about how much protein you eat -- you need to find a balance between not enough and too much -- I know that if I eat too much protein, I wind up stalling out..

[LawyerLongo]

Luv,

My diet essentially consists of this


MEAL #1

(3) eggs
(1) protein shake

MEAL #2

(1) tuna fish pouch

MEAL #3

(4) skinless/boneless chicken tenders
Spinich Salad Greens

MEAL #4

(1) tuna fish pouch
(1) protein shake

MEAL #5

(12 oz.) Salmon
( 8 oz.) Cooked Shrimp
Spinich Salad Greens

MEAL #6

(2) boneless skinless chicken tenders



ITS NOT THAT I WANNA NECESSARILY STAY LOW FAT, ITS JUST I LIKE TO EAT LIGHTER AND HEALTHIER I.E. CHICKEN AND FISH RATHER THAN BEEF AND FATTIER SOURCES OF FOOD

ALSO THE REASON I EAT SO MUCH PROTEIN IS I TRAIN HEAVY WITH WEIGHTS 5-6 DAYS A WEEK AND DON'T WANNA USE MUSCLE RESEVOUIRS FOR ENERGY

[JerseyGyrl]

In Dr.Atkins New Diet Revolution, Dr. A. specifically instructs not to do this plan low fat. Contrary to popular belief....Atkins is not a high protein diet. Atkins is a high fat, adequate protein diet.

[Houston Heather]

DANDR says no. Page 27: "I cannot stress strongly enough that trying to do a low-fat version of Atkins will interfere with fat burning and derail your weight loss."

If it's low-fat it probably isn't Atkins. I got my statistics (lost 3 clothing sizes in 6 weeks) by eating 70% of my calories as fat.

[2big4mysize]

Is it possible to lose and be in Ketosis and be on Atkins while eating High Protein, and Low Fat and Low Carbs???

NO

it is possible to lose weight doing that plan but it isn't called Atkins.

[skoolmarm729]

I feel and look much better now than I did before when I was actually "watching" my fat intake. There's something to be said about traditional Atkins-- including the fat. Check with your doctor and see how you feel before you try eliminating the fat.

[amiga74]

its difficult to get the necessary calories without fat. google Lyle McDonald's Protein Sparing Modified Fast (psmf) Rapid Fat-loss diet. there was a psmf thread late last summer, it has all the info.

but if you choose that route, you will have to reduce your weight training volume, and cut it back to 2x a week. also, very little cardio.

you could do induction for 2 weeks then transition to something lower fat. also, South Beach is a lower fat plan, with all the necessary info here on the boards. that might be more up your alley.

i too have a more difficult time eating higher fat. so i try for the good ones on my low carb days -olive oil, almonds, almond flour, salmon, buffalo, pork. tuna w/ olive oil. low fat cottage cheese. ultimately, i never quite did atkins but i did do south beach. now i do a combo.

atkins is really similar to a ketogenic plan.

[junkfoodmonkey]

I agree, if it's low fat, it's not Atkins. But there are low fat, low carb plans out there, so check them out, if that appeals to you more than high fat. Atkins is not the be all and end all of low carb. Shop around.

[jezzie]

Low Fat Atkins???? Can This be Done????

I have known people (at this site) who lost well doing low-er fat. And they maintained.
(Lower sat fat and lower calorie to be more specific.)

Atkins has gone through several metamorphoses over the course of 35 years.

The current in-vogue version calls for 70 - 80% fat, whole foods, and doing things like putting
fat on top of your fat (ie: butter on top of rib eye) and that also seems to be a successful
weight loss plan.

Find what works for you - both for weight loss and health - and stick to it would be my advice.

.

[dawnyama]

It is not necessary to do low-fat Atkins. As a guy, you might appreciate what George Stella has to say about his weight loss. He had a show on the Food Network and has some recipes over on that site. He says that he lost best while eating ground beef--it is a fattier cut of meat and the reason for faster weight loss with it. This particular question was raised on the main lobby just a day or 2 ago and everyone had their opinion as to if they lost faster on beef or chicken. It is titled appropriately "beef or chicken".

[Corpuscavernosa]

One of the many reasons not to go low fat while doing low carb is that your other option, obviously, is protein. While considerably less than sugar, protein does affect insulin levels whereas fat does not.

I agree with others on this plan that I lose more weight in a fat-heavy week than during weeks when I tend to go higher protein. Fat calories, for purposes of weight loss and ketosis, are definitely better than protein.

[wifezilla]

Can you? Yes. Should you? Hell no!

[somethingblue2u]

fat is our friend! it really is.

[jedswife]

the more fat you eat the more bodyfat you burn - IMO

[hummingbird11]

Originally Posted by Houston Heather

DANDR says no. Page 27: "I cannot stress strongly enough that trying to do a low-fat version of Atkins will interfere with fat burning and derail your weight loss."

If it's low-fat it probably isn't Atkins. I got my statistics (lost 3 clothing sizes in 6 weeks) by eating 70% of my calories as fat.

wow! now there is PROOF!

[hummingbird11]

Originally Posted by LawyerLongo

Is it possible to lose and be in Ketosis and be on Atkins while eating High Protein, and Low Fat and Low Carbs??? My rationale is that if I keep my fat low, meaning I eat Fish and Chicken rather than fatty meats etc., then I will utilize more body fat...my other concern is my body thinking i'm starving and shutting my metabolism down?? Any tips??

YES per this interview/article:
Atkins Nutritionals Interview (Repairing your Metabolism and more)

EXCERPT:
You can follow a lower fat version of Atkins. Use fish, poultry, lean meats, and low fat cheese (in moderation) and lots of vegetables. Avoid creamy salad dressing; instead use olive oil and vinegar or a mustard based dressing. Eat nuts only in moderation. Don't fry foods, and use lean cuts of meat. Stay away from processed meats such as bacon and sausage. Supplementing with unsweetened, smooth textured, orange-flavored Metamucil daily will help bulk your stools. Take 1 tablespoon in a full glass of water and drink immediately.

[SweetestDork]

just my 2 cents worth... Atkins says you have to eat fat to lose fat, hence the fat fast. SO it seems like it wouldnt make sense to go low fat to me.

[2big4mysize]

Originally Posted by hummingbird11

YES per this interview/article:
Atkins Nutritionals Interview (Repairing your Metabolism and more)

EXCERPT:
You can follow a lower fat version of Atkins. Use fish, poultry, lean meats, and low fat cheese (in moderation) and lots of vegetables. Avoid creamy salad dressing; instead use olive oil and vinegar or a mustard based dressing. Eat nuts only in moderation. Don't fry foods, and use lean cuts of meat. Stay away from processed meats such as bacon and sausage. Supplementing with unsweetened, smooth textured, orange-flavored Metamucil daily will help bulk your stools. Take 1 tablespoon in a full glass of water and drink immediately.

actually the quote you sited is in response to folk without gallbladders concerned about doing Atkins not about doing a low fat version of atkins notice the word is lower fat not low fat

[hummingbird11]

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

actually the quote you sited is in response to folk without gallbladders concerned about doing Atkins not about doing a low fat version of atkins notice the word is lower fat not low fat

lower fat or low fat- it's really just semantics. point is, it can be done.

[2big4mysize]

actually it isn't semantics

low fat diet has a defined amount, 30% or less of the cals as fat.

A lower fat Atkins could be anywhere up to just below induction 65% fat.

there is a difference in a low fat 1600 cal diet with only 480 of fat and
a lower fat Atkins with say 50% fat at 800 cals of fat OR A 60% 960 CALS OF FAT.

[hummingbird11]

YES ~ ANYONE CAN DO THIS LOWER FAT VERSION OF ATKINS:

You can follow a lower fat version of Atkins. Use fish, poultry, lean meats, and low fat cheese (in moderation) and lots of vegetables. Avoid creamy salad dressing; instead use olive oil and vinegar or a mustard based dressing. Eat nuts only in moderation. Don't fry foods, and use lean cuts of meat. Stay away from processed meats such as bacon and sausage. Supplementing with unsweetened, smooth textured, orange-flavored Metamucil daily will help bulk your stools. Take 1 tablespoon in a full glass of water and drink immediately.

The above is an excerpt from:
Atkins Nutritionals Interview (Repairing your Metabolism and more)

[2big4mysize]

hummingbird11 you seem to be missing my point. I'm not disagreeing with you about a lower fat Atkins. I disagree about the OP's LOW fat atkins. low fat, low carbs isn't Atkins. There are many safe and a few dangerous low fat low carb high protein plans out there but Atkins isn't one of them.

[Houston Heather]

No frying?

[hummingbird11]

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

hummingbird11 you seem to be missing my point. I'm not disagreeing with you about a lower fat Atkins. I disagree about the OP's LOW fat atkins. low fat, low carbs isn't Atkins. There are many safe and a few dangerous low fat low carb high protein plans out there but Atkins isn't one of them.

No, I'm not missing your point. In principle, Atkins is not a lowfat WOE.
And if you go back & read my posts here, you'll see I never said it was!

All I said was:
YES, it's POSSIBLE to follow a lower fat version of Atkins.
BUT ONLY IF YOU WANT TO; YOU CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE TO.

This is NOT just my opinion; this came from an official Atkins Nutritional Interview posted right here at LCF:
It's possible to follow a lower fat version of Atkins: Use fish, poultry, lean meats, and low fat cheese (in moderation) and lots of vegetables. Avoid creamy salad dressing; instead use olive oil and vinegar or a mustard based dressing. Eat nuts only in moderation. Don't fry foods, and use lean cuts of meat. Stay away from processed meats such as bacon and sausage. Supplementing with unsweetened, smooth textured, orange-flavored Metamucil daily will help bulk your stools. Take 1 tablespoon in a full glass of water and drink immediately.

IMO: if you want to fry - go ahead - but maybe use healthier/more beneficial oils/fats such as grapeseed or coconut oil. Just my opinion!

[aunatural]

Am I missing something? Isn't that the beauty of Atkins? That you CAN eat fat? To the OP, why do you need to put a label on your WOE anyway? It's the way you eat...end of story. It doesn't have to be called Atkins or anything else.