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Old 01-27-2008, 04:42 PM   #1
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Post-Induction Ketosis

Hello! I've done quite a bit of reading on Atkins, but still don't quite understand the role of ketosis when it comes to post-induction...

Is ketosis just a continued "side effect" (or goal?) until we figure out how many carbs our bodies can tolerate without gaining?

Is there a risk to being in ketosis for months at a time?

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Old 01-27-2008, 09:33 PM   #2
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as long as you're in ketosis you're technically burning fat.
this is where you climb the carb rungs to see how many/much carbs you can take and stay in ketosis and still lose weight.

this is truely harder for me this time. the first time i could get to 50gms before i went out; this time it looks like i gotta stay close to the 20-30.
either that or there are just certain foods that I am sensitive too - that's the other part of figuring out what works for you.

everybody is different. I think it was almost a year in ketosis on my first go at it. Nothing but lost weight and lower cholesterol.
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Old 01-28-2008, 07:24 AM   #3
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Thanks! Your stats are very much like mine. I am hypo, too, and haven't lost a darn ounce since the first of January.

Are you losing since your diagnosis?
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YES!

I actually waited a year taking armour and maintained the same weight.

I am also CFS/Fibromyalgia challenged - thats a whole other problem.

i figured if i can maintain (on an avg of 90 gms carbs a day) then i should be able to loose again.

i am not losing big like i did in 2001, before the hypo; but i am losing.
i actually hit 149 today - yeah - to be back to the 14x's.

i would measure weekly, i am down a size, so even tho the pounds are moving slow, the clothes are getting looser.
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ketosis as defined by Dr Atkins as the burning of fatty acids for energy is not dangerous at all . as a matter of fact every human on earth is in ketosis every night as they sleep.
Ketoacidosis is the dangerous ketone conditon and that is realted to diabetics insulin issues not dietary ketosis Atkinseers achieve,

And yes we will be in ketosis for the rest of our life eating our AtkinsWOE.
The concentration of ketones in our blood stream will change as we add back more carbohydrates in the OWL and Premaintnenance phases even to the point where appetite suppression is lost but by then we will have worked our Atkins for such a long period of time we will already know how little food ti really take to nurish our bodies and what our hunger signals are and what foods trigger blood sugar and/or craving control issues for us and steps we cah take to regain the control of those issues should we have any so that will not be an issue once you become conmfortable with the idea you will not have appetite suppression for life.

There are lots of siiues in scale weight loss even if you are not hypo. many of the new to us induction and OWL foods are goitrogens and can effect our thyroid hormone levles, cals to carbs amounts can effect thyroid function as Broda Barnes documented, and even fluid weight fluctation can alter our scale nnumbers so check with your tapemeasure any time you feel you are not still shedding body fat. you will see those inches of body fat being burned off even when scale numbers do not show it as we morph our body removing fat mass adding lean body mass and fluctuating fluid mass.

I added 11 pounds of lean tissues in one 6 month period and was frustrated my Atkins was not getting me to goal weight till i reralized i had less then 15% body fat and was a goalie so hang in there.

4 weeks of no scale nor inches lost is the definition of an atkins stall.



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Thanks...I'm rereading my Atkins book today, and just reviewed what you said about Ketosis being safe. I guess I wasn't aware that it is the preferred state of being for life.

I notice lately, now that I'm PMS'ing, my cravings are back, even though I am in ketosis I have been preoccupied with food for the past 2 days, and am so annoyed!

I guess appetite suppression may vary a bit for me.

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no TOM effects blood glucose levels and most atkineers have cravings and TOM issues.

Don't you wish Dr Atkins had been female so we would have at least a chapter if not a whole book on it.

hang in there. what are you craving? many things can be low carbed and exercise will give you some cool brain chemicals that should help too.
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So funny... "cool brain chemicals"! I like that. Too bad the snow I shoveled this morning didn't get me "high".

I am craving fats and sweets...and I think my Splenda intake is too high. I have Stevia on hand, I just reach for Splenda out of habit. I would love to be one of those people who didn't need sweet things (like Splenda or Stevia), but I think I come by my sweet tooth genetically . I'll have to figure how how much I can tolerate.

It's funny, when I think about a "cheat" now, it is for an Atkins-approved, low carb thing, like an extra sugar-free cheesecake (4 carbs). It used to be much worse! Like carmel ice cream or a couple of heath bars. I remember enjoying those sugary things, and even remember the yummy taste of them, but in the present moment, I don't even think of them as a possibility. That's a non-scale win for me.
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woo hoo I planned an endulgence of frozen berries pureed with heavy cream for Christmas and my sister was like and your going to serve that on what? and I was like a spoon. She thought it needed more I was thrilled with the blueberries and the smooth creamy texture melting in my mouth.

funny how low carbing cna change the foods we enjoy.
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